I'm a Ford truck guy but this is may be my all time favorite muscle car ever from Chevy, the 1969 ZL1 COPO Camaro. This one looks especially sharp with the orange paint and body colored wheels and dog dish caps. Personally I would've ordered mine with a less conspicuous color just to not attract the cops LoL Maybe like a Forest Green color or something along those lines
Such an added plus to track down the original engine. In the late 70s I purchased a 69 Z/28 that had been spun backwards off a cliff. The guy who wrecked it bought a standard 69 coupe and put all the Z/28 stuff in it. I bought the car to put an LS6 454 in it. Anyway this guy sold the car and the new owner wrecked it. A friend bought a Z/28 that had a 327 so he bought the wrecked car and put the Z/28 stuff in it. This guy moved and I lost track of him. Fast forward 15 years and a guy I worked with bought a DZ 302, 4 spd, front clip, and gauges from a 69 Z/28 and had a friend of his store it until he could have it shipped up to us. Well the day came when stuff showed up. We were inspecting it all and I looked at the vin on the engine and it looked familiar, so I went and looked at my Camaro and sure enough it was the engine that came from my car.
My favorite Camaro ever built right there. My favorite Chevy ever built actually. The big block ZL1 427 engine weighed as much as a 327 small block so the ZL1 Camaro actually had the handling of a small block Camaro with a factory rating of 430 hp I believe. But they actually had 500 plus horsepower I think. Plus they just looked like a base model Camaro. No SS badges, stripes, spoilers, or fancy rims. Love the sleeper look of the 69 ZL1 Camaro. I'm typically a Mopar/Ford guy but I love basically all classic muscle cars. Even Buick, Oldsmobile, and American Motors had some bad ass machines in those days. Pontiac was my favorite GM division though
@@TheRoguelement Yup, they even had the crappy exhaust and Camaro BBC manifolds. If GM headers were ordered, they were placed in the truck/back seat for the dealer to install. As such the power was cut down to approx. 300hp, roughly half the power. No ZL1 427 engine ever dynoed below 500hp, most were around 520hp. Open headers are required for max power. These engines had their own line and were assembled in climate controlled rooms. The 430hp rating was a joke, it was taken at 5200rpm, revving the engine another 1000+ rpm got you into it max power range.
This particular zl1 would've been what I would've ordered back in 69 had I been alive and the means to do so. I absolutely love the color and the options of this sleeper!
Me too.....but in reality hind-sight is always 20/20 in a way you don't see in the present real time. In 1969 you and I both almost certainly would have looked at an order sheet and said, "$4,000 for an engine in a $3,000 car? Are you kidding?". As an alternative you could have bought a COPO car with the iron block version of this 427 engine for 1/2 the price. It's almost certainly the choice you would have made in '69 if you knew any of these cars were available. 100pds of weight savings hardly justify $7,000 vs $3,500 for the same power on the street.
@@Dogboy1960 When you are in sanctioned racing, whether it's drag racing or road course, and want to be competitive, EVERY POUND of weight counts in a big way. 100 lbs is a lot, when you consider you've shaved off as much weight as possible from the rest of the car. Furthermore, these old school Camaro's were NOSE HEAVY and because of that, were notorious for wheel hopping off the line when drag racing OR harder to throw into the turns on road courses. Losing a hundred pounds from the front of the car via the engine choice alone makes all the difference in the world. These guys raced TO WIN. And winning paid money. That money of course was only enough to recoup part of the funding it took to race full time. That's where sponsors enter the picture........and sponsors only want to sponsor potential winners. So that 100 lbs of difference in the ZL1 vs an iron block meant EVERYTHING. Now you know........
Will someone PLEASE explain to this Man that these ZL-1 were NOT normally purchased to Drive around like some Nebbish with a new Z28 these cars were COPO cars and the MAJORITY of cars purchased were RACED and never even registered on the road these were mainly A/Super stock cars purchased to drag race ...So this notion of Options was all his own idea ..
True, but at first people actually drove them around, until the oil crisis hit and people left then in a garage or drag raced them. But nowadays people restore what’s left of them and sell them... but 34 ZL-1’s were purchased and registered for the road they said.
Whoa go easy bro. While I agree with your statement I do like how the dude described the sound of the engine in this #63 ZL1 king of Camaros; 'it literally, when it fires up you hear the power, you hear the compression kickin' in the motor with aluminum block aluminum heads, er it sounds like you have paint cans trying to find their way out of a metal box I mean it's pretty radical'...I wonder if he meant the list of options pertained to the COPO Camaro - and in that instance he is correct. Give the guy a little slack bro...and no I don't know him from a bar of soap.
VIN# 124379N643047 was ordered from Burt Chevy in Englewood, Co. Center console, spoilers, M22 trans (M21 was standard equipment), sport steering wheel, and special instrumentation were its only options. The Z21 exterior trim was not ordered originally nor was the lettered tires but a very nice touch. What a beautiful car!
The VIN did not show it came with ZL-1 motor .The VIN showed it had 396/375 in it .The ZL-1 was installed at the factory by a group of engineers but not on the assembly line .The way to prove it came with the ZL-1 was with the window sticker .i bought a new 69 COPO 9561 427 Camaro in July of 1969 .The COPO 9561 cars had all cast iron 427/425 motors.The ZL-1,s had 430 cubic inch motors had 430 hp in other words 430/430 motors .My car had 427 with 450 horsepower written the air cleaner .There was another dealer in the Detroit area that has several ZL-1 car s and Camaro,s with dealer installed 427,s ( L-72 motors ) My car was 119 since they needed 120 of them to make them legal for NHRA for SS /D .
@@daveday3770 Actually the ZL1 is a 427 engine, it's all aluminum, whereas the 9561 cars had the cast iron engines. The L72 cast iron 427 was rated at 425 HP and the ZL1 aluminum 427 was rated at 430 HP. It had 12:0-1 compression, a hotter cam and an 850 Holley, versus the 780 on the L72. Rumors were the ZL1 pushed 550-575 HP on the dyno.
I'm a Mopar guy but the 69 Camaro ZL1 is my favorite car ever produced by Chevrolet. Always really liked all the Chevy 427 COPO cars. A 69 L72 COPO Nova is my favorite of all the iron block L72 427 powered COPO cars. The L72 Nova ran quicker quarter mile times than both the L72 COPO Camaro and Chevelle. Bad Ass Bow Tie
Did I hear you right Mike? The ZL-1's automatic transmission only came with a Granny shifter (collum shift)? That is unconsciounable to me that Chevy would not offer the floor shifter.
Yes I built the engine took 8 years to get all numbered parts and was very expensive installation 66 impala ss and boy I don’t care what car you have by Chevy but install one of these and look out fast as all Fck. Love it
Thought years Ago,I Saw A Green One ,W/ Turbo 4OO On Flr.In. Muscle Car Mag.May Still Have It,If I Can Find It,Will Post M/ Yr & Name of Mag.,In Case Can Be Republ.,If Someone is Interested.In Tracing It Down,if Still An Active Car.
Only 69 of these were made, making it one of the most rare Cars in the world. It’s even fast now, it’s also more expensive than a Lamborghini, and Ferrari, and even Audi.
My father bought a new car in 69 he said it was just a plain impala. I asked him what was wrong with you didn’t you know about these Camaro’s.You could get one for like 2 grand,for another 150 dollars you could get a 427 and 4 Speed.
Bello el auto, pero un desperdicio de tiempo en video priorizando la figura del presentador con sus explicaciones a la del auto en el que se debió mostrarlo mucho más en detalle
I wonder why they never made zl1 novas, chevelles, biscaynes, or even a wagon? All of them would've been awesome with that all alum 427 and steel wheels with dog dish hub caps! If I were to ever win the lotto, I think I'll have some of the above built just to see what could've been.
The ZL1 costs twice as much as a similar 396 SS. That is why only 69 were ever built and no other ZL1 cars were ever made. Because of the high price tag, they were hard to sell. Dealers reduced the price to move them off the lot. At the time, no one ever dreamed they would be 100's of thousands of dollars. That is the story I heard about ZL1 Camaros. In 1986, I bought a rather nice 6 cylinder 1969 Camaro for $1000!
They couldn't sell the 69 They built, they were so expensive. COPO 9560 sticker price was right at 7,200 dollars. Big money in 69. Also they were not sold as daily drivers, instead they were intended from the beginning to go to pro, or semi pro racers.
@@chrisauten2039 Yup.......when that yellow one changes hands the corvette world will be watching. A virtual CERTAINTY of the highest price ever paid for a Corvette.
You do realize don't you that Joel Rosen marked very si,glue Motion car in special locations on the frames for future identification purposes??? This is how he is able to tell the real ones from the fakes...
Poor car. Probably never had the chance to go out and run with the others. Just sits in a warehouse, year after year, collecting ooooohs and ahhhs at the country club and at private diners. Occasionally visited by the insurance adjusters to re-evaluate it's insurable worth, it's time to see the auctioneer to land a brand new berth.
This ZL-1 sold January 18, 2020 at Barrett-Jackson for 995.000.00
I'm a Ford truck guy but this is may be my all time favorite muscle car ever from Chevy, the 1969 ZL1 COPO Camaro. This one looks especially sharp with the orange paint and body colored wheels and dog dish caps. Personally I would've ordered mine with a less conspicuous color just to not attract the cops LoL Maybe like a Forest Green color or something along those lines
we need more of this car in the world.
I’m speechless , absolutely the best Camaro ever made and I’m going into depression now because I’m not going to get it , lol !!
The painted rims with dog dishes looks so badass. The rear tires need about 4 additional inches of width.
Such an added plus to track down the original engine. In the late 70s I purchased a 69 Z/28 that had been spun backwards off a cliff. The guy who wrecked it bought a standard 69 coupe and put all the Z/28 stuff in it. I bought the car to put an LS6 454 in it. Anyway this guy sold the car and the new owner wrecked it. A friend bought a Z/28 that had a 327 so he bought the wrecked car and put the Z/28 stuff in it. This guy moved and I lost track of him. Fast forward 15 years and a guy I worked with bought a DZ 302, 4 spd, front clip, and gauges from a 69 Z/28 and had a friend of his store it until he could have it shipped up to us. Well the day came when stuff showed up. We were inspecting it all and I looked at the vin on the engine and it looked familiar, so I went and looked at my Camaro and sure enough it was the engine that came from my car.
My favorite Camaro ever built right there. My favorite Chevy ever built actually. The big block ZL1 427 engine weighed as much as a 327 small block so the ZL1 Camaro actually had the handling of a small block Camaro with a factory rating of 430 hp I believe. But they actually had 500 plus horsepower I think. Plus they just looked like a base model Camaro. No SS badges, stripes, spoilers, or fancy rims. Love the sleeper look of the 69 ZL1 Camaro. I'm typically a Mopar/Ford guy but I love basically all classic muscle cars. Even Buick, Oldsmobile, and American Motors had some bad ass machines in those days. Pontiac was my favorite GM division though
They were ordered as Base COPO Camaros because they were ALL heading for the Drag strip where most if NOT all spent the remaining years ...
@@TheRoguelement Yup, they even had the crappy exhaust and Camaro BBC manifolds. If GM headers were ordered, they were placed in the truck/back seat for the dealer to install. As such the power was cut down to approx. 300hp, roughly half the power. No ZL1 427 engine ever dynoed below 500hp, most were around 520hp. Open headers are required for max power. These engines had their own line and were assembled in climate controlled rooms. The 430hp rating was a joke, it was taken at 5200rpm, revving the engine another 1000+ rpm got you into it max power range.
This particular zl1 would've been what I would've ordered back in 69 had I been alive and the means to do so. I absolutely love the color and the options of this sleeper!
Me too.....but in reality hind-sight is always 20/20 in a way you don't see in the present real time. In 1969 you and I both almost certainly would have looked at an order sheet and said, "$4,000 for an engine in a $3,000 car? Are you kidding?". As an alternative you could have bought a COPO car with the iron block version of this 427 engine for 1/2 the price. It's almost certainly the choice you would have made in '69 if you knew any of these cars were available. 100pds of weight savings hardly justify $7,000 vs $3,500 for the same power on the street.
@@Dogboy1960 When you are in sanctioned racing, whether it's drag racing or road course, and want to be competitive, EVERY POUND of weight counts in a big way. 100 lbs is a lot, when you consider you've shaved off as much weight as possible from the rest of the car. Furthermore, these old school Camaro's were NOSE HEAVY and because of that, were notorious for wheel hopping off the line when drag racing OR harder to throw into the turns on road courses. Losing a hundred pounds from the front of the car via the engine choice alone makes all the difference in the world. These guys raced TO WIN. And winning paid money. That money of course was only enough to recoup part of the funding it took to race full time. That's where sponsors enter the picture........and sponsors only want to sponsor potential winners. So that 100 lbs of difference in the ZL1 vs an iron block meant EVERYTHING. Now you know........
Will someone PLEASE explain to this Man that these ZL-1 were NOT normally purchased to Drive around like some Nebbish with a new Z28 these cars were COPO cars and the MAJORITY of cars purchased were RACED and never even registered on the road these were mainly A/Super stock cars purchased to drag race ...So this notion of Options was all his own idea ..
True, but at first people actually drove them around, until the oil crisis hit and people left then in a garage or drag raced them. But nowadays people restore what’s left of them and sell them... but 34 ZL-1’s were purchased and registered for the road they said.
Whoa go easy bro. While I agree with your statement I do like how the dude described the sound of the engine in this #63 ZL1 king of Camaros; 'it literally, when it fires up you hear the power, you hear the compression kickin' in the motor with aluminum block aluminum heads, er it sounds like you have paint cans trying to find their way out of a metal box I mean it's pretty radical'...I wonder if he meant the list of options pertained to the COPO Camaro - and in that instance he is correct. Give the guy a little slack bro...and no I don't know him from a bar of soap.
The hell is a nebbish?
VIN# 124379N643047 was ordered from Burt Chevy in Englewood, Co. Center console, spoilers, M22 trans (M21 was standard equipment), sport steering wheel, and special instrumentation were its only options. The Z21 exterior trim was not ordered originally nor was the lettered tires but a very nice touch. What a beautiful car!
The VIN did not show it came with ZL-1 motor .The VIN showed it had 396/375 in it .The ZL-1 was installed at the factory by a group of engineers but not on the assembly line .The way to prove it came with the ZL-1 was with the window sticker .i bought a new 69 COPO 9561 427 Camaro in July of 1969 .The COPO 9561 cars had all cast iron 427/425 motors.The ZL-1,s had 430 cubic inch motors had 430 hp in other words 430/430 motors .My car had 427 with 450 horsepower written the air cleaner .There was another dealer in the Detroit area that has several ZL-1 car s and Camaro,s with dealer installed 427,s ( L-72 motors ) My car was 119 since they needed 120 of them to make them legal for NHRA for SS /D .
@@daveday3770 Actually the ZL1 is a 427 engine, it's all aluminum, whereas the 9561 cars had the cast iron engines. The L72 cast iron 427 was rated at 425 HP and the ZL1 aluminum 427 was rated at 430 HP. It had 12:0-1 compression, a hotter cam and an 850 Holley, versus the 780 on the L72. Rumors were the ZL1 pushed 550-575 HP on the dyno.
@@vernhoke7730: Especially Ones W/ Headers
This is the correct Vin for the #63 car. The 430c.i. engine was a sleeveless Can-Am engine.
I'm a Mopar guy but the 69 Camaro ZL1 is my favorite car ever produced by Chevrolet. Always really liked all the Chevy 427 COPO cars. A 69 L72 COPO Nova is my favorite of all the iron block L72 427 powered COPO cars. The L72 Nova ran quicker quarter mile times than both the L72 COPO Camaro and Chevelle. Bad Ass Bow Tie
The L72 nova was so fast it scared Don Yenko! That's why he only put the lt1 350 in the 70 Yenko nova's.
I wonder if you're able to tell me what this beauty ended up going for? Thanks!
Strangely Familiar it sold for 770k
Of the original 69 1969 ZL-1s built, at least 169 are still going across the auctions.
I love the 1ST generation Camaro. My fave
Did I hear you right Mike? The ZL-1's automatic transmission only came with a Granny shifter (collum shift)? That is unconsciounable to me that Chevy would not offer the floor shifter.
My co-worker has one in maroon.. awesome car
My Holy Grail is a 69 Yenko Chevelle in any color.
Someone teach these people about B roll...
Yes I built the engine took 8 years to get all numbered parts and was very expensive installation 66 impala ss and boy I don’t care what car you have by Chevy but install one of these and look out fast as all Fck. Love it
Thought years Ago,I Saw A Green One ,W/ Turbo 4OO On Flr.In. Muscle Car Mag.May Still Have It,If I Can Find It,Will Post M/ Yr & Name of Mag.,In Case Can Be Republ.,If Someone is Interested.In Tracing It Down,if Still An Active Car.
My dad has 2 camaros an all original 1969 z/28 camaro and a convertible camaro ss in progress restore
That cam ??
550 h.p.,W/ the Alloy Blk.& OverSized Holley Carb & 12:1 Comp.Ratio.
Same for the muncie 4 speed, they don't hold a candle to the super t10.
Only 69 of these were made, making it one of the most rare Cars in the world. It’s even fast now, it’s also more expensive than a Lamborghini, and Ferrari, and even Audi.
That is what my car (avatar) wishes it was.
My father bought a new car in 69 he said it was just a plain impala. I asked him what was wrong with you didn’t you know about these Camaro’s.You could get one for like 2 grand,for another 150 dollars you could get a 427 and 4 Speed.
Wow, love it
Only 69 of these ZL-1 Camaro's Were Built and Basic selling price in 1969 was 7200.00.
Yep,ZL 1 PKG.Was More Than the Base Price of the Camaro ,Itself.Lol
I can't believe there were idiots out there that took these engines OUT of the ZL1 and went boat racing. WTF!
Aluminum blacks don't stand up nearly as good as iron blacks.
VAROOMMMMMM
there is more than 3 with their orig engines .
Probably means of that particular colour, which is dumb.
O I would love ❤ to dream about
Bello el auto, pero un desperdicio de tiempo en video priorizando la figura del presentador con sus explicaciones a la del auto en el que se debió mostrarlo mucho más en detalle
I wonder why they never made zl1 novas, chevelles, biscaynes, or even a wagon? All of them would've been awesome with that all alum 427 and steel wheels with dog dish hub caps! If I were to ever win the lotto, I think I'll have some of the above built just to see what could've been.
The ZL1 costs twice as much as a similar 396 SS. That is why only 69 were ever built and no other ZL1 cars were ever made.
Because of the high price tag, they were hard to sell. Dealers reduced the price to move them off the lot. At the time, no one ever dreamed they would be 100's of thousands of dollars.
That is the story I heard about ZL1 Camaros. In 1986, I bought a rather nice 6 cylinder 1969 Camaro for $1000!
2 - ZL1 1969 corvettes were done by chevrolet and i believe at least one of them (yellow) still exists today
They couldn't sell the 69 They built, they were so expensive. COPO 9560 sticker price was right at 7,200 dollars. Big money in 69. Also they were not sold as daily drivers, instead they were intended from the beginning to go to pro, or semi pro racers.
@@chrisauten2039 Yup.......when that yellow one changes hands the corvette world will be watching. A virtual CERTAINTY of the highest price ever paid for a Corvette.
All this and you cant supply the rubber bumper for the clutch pedal,noone ever does. Both pedals sit evenl when its there. Loon!
#63
Ok, we know it's rare, now fire it up......never fires it up,. might as well be made of Unobtanium
If it's a real one I promise you it runs
And yet once again, the clock does not work...👎
It's back to the future
Less talk more car pics...
i want 2 lol
I bough a completely gutted, trashed, wrecked 1969 Motion Camaro in1986 just to have the title and vin tag. The body was sent to the scrapyard.
So now you are going to build a fake?
@@danlaur7973 ha ha ha probably
You do realize don't you that Joel Rosen marked very si,glue Motion car in special locations on the frames for future identification purposes??? This is how he is able to tell the real ones from the fakes...
I think it's a fake, ZL1s didn't have a console.
Poor car. Probably never had the chance to go out and run with the others. Just sits in a warehouse, year after year, collecting ooooohs and ahhhs at the country club and at private diners. Occasionally visited by the insurance adjusters to re-evaluate it's insurable worth, it's time to see the auctioneer to land a brand new berth.
Pay About $40,000 For It Max!
I wonder if you're able to tell me what this beauty ended up going for? Thanks!