I know many people find this music depressing, but I dunno... I get this sense of liberation from it, it's almost freeing. I just .. feel upliftment. Not depression. VNV is amazing.
Same here. I went and read through the lyrics, trying to figure out where the sense of hope is coming from... the words themselves don't seem hopeful at all. All I can think of is that the whole song looks to the future, and the future is hope. (Oh, and there's also "I will find you." That seems pretty hopeful, taken out of context.)
...I think I've figured it out. This whole song is a question. It _asks_ whether there's any hope left in the world. That sense of liberation you feel is your answer.
@@Tzizenorec Nothing of the sort. It's just me referencing an old video I did featuring the amstrad crocodiles and this song. Basically we had the idea that this song plays at amstrad crocodile raves.
The saddest thing for me is that I stumbled across this song and VNV about 8 years ago. :( but even sadder than that is that I am thebonly one that I know of that listens to this style of music and listens to vnv. Personally know of I am speaking, not the texted words from screen names that have left their place upon this cherished thread for this cherished music. :) but with out those texted words from anonymous screen names, I might have never found this band so many years ago. So thank you, all of you, for letting me enjoy this music and showing it to me so many years ago.
Every time I watch this video, no matter how frustrated, exuberant, or melancholy I am, it takes away all of my negative thoughts and lends me empathy for humanity. It gives me hope, knowing that despite all of our worst actions, there is just a glimmer, a chance that it can all be changed for good.
been listening to this band for many years. I find their music calming and soothing. which is the best thing as their music as helped me through some rough and bad times
At the end of days, at the end of time When the sun burns out will any of this matter? Who will be there to remember who we were? Who will be there to know that any of this had meaning for us? And in retrospect I'll say we've done no wrong Who are we to judge what's right and what has purpose for us? With designs upon ourselves to do no wrong, Running wild unaware of what might come of us The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Without a thought I will see everything eternal Forget that once we were just dust from heavens far As we were forged, we shall return perhaps someday I will remember us and wonder who we were The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
In Goth clubs, we always dance alone. It's the only way to really feel the music, and celebrate every feeling, not just the happy. That is what makes Goth a personality and not a phase or trend. Embracing all emotions and art that expresses all of them well.
its interesting how an anonymous fan video can become the seminal vision of this song. Just a fan making their interpretation through visuals....and gave a new dimension in their own right.
That happened on a smaller scale with 'Spaceflight' by Efence. Also there are a few songs I uploaded the definitive version of, mostly on my other LyriMetacurl channel (though they don't have videos, just an image). I think it's Hero of the Federation from Starship Troopers 2, and some royalty free ones e.g. Mercury (DL-Sounds) and The Supernova's Reset (Zat).
At the end of days, at the end of time When the sun burns out will any of this matter? Who will be there to remember who we were? Who will be there to know that any of this had meaning for us? And in retrospect I'll say we've done no wrong Who are we to judge what's right and what has purpose for us? With designs upon ourselves to do no wrong, Running wild unaware of what might come of us The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Without a thought I will see everything eternal Forget that once we were just dust from heavens far As we were forged, we shall return perhaps someday I will remember us and wonder who we were The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me The sun was born and so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me Each day shall end as it begins And though you're far away from me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Went back through 10 years of comments here and didn't see a mention about the creator/credit given to. This video is the backing video that was played while the song was performed on the "FuturePerfect" tour in 2002. There was also an amazing video for "Carbon" that was played with all sorts of statistics about the Earth flashing up on the screen. I would imagine Ronan had some involvement unless another person/group handled the background images/videos. My favorite song of theirs and looking forward to hearing it live again on 10/29/16 in NYC for the Compendium Tour.
@@-pq7ke87i I believe this video was present in the very first US tour (the one that got half-cancelled when APB backed out of some dates) at least in some form. At least, I remember the blue wave background.
@@JimTyphoon Yes! I think it was the 2001 tour in the US, they only played 4 dates. 9 dates in 2000 - I was at both Tampa Masquerade shows - I couldn't stop watching it and still to this day!
Danke VNV NATION, das es euch gibt, die beste Musik seit Depeche Mode in den 80"er Jahren. Danke für 2011, das neue Album Automatic, und das geniale Concert in Dresden, für 2012 viel Erfolg und verzaubert uns weiter so mit eurer Musik! Gruss an alle Fans von Steven
"Forget that once we were just dust from heavens far" A very sobering and humbling thing to think that over billions of years cosmic dust and gas coalesced and created art, music, feelings, thought, pain, pleasure, life and death.
@Psygnostic < Don't even mind the above, we think therefore we are... it will all end in about 22 billion years once the Big Crunch/Big Freeze sets in, and then possibly another Big Bang will happen... everything in the known universe seems to go on in cycles... Let there be light, and there was VNV2.0 ;)
I am a hopeful christian. With that said, I feel this album helped me grow away from the feeling that I am alone. Knowing what I have read & the input forced upon me in the negative systematic bull ish. I love how music can evoke the deepest feelings in your soul...feelings strong enough to make you cry, feel empty & hopeless with the faint glimpse of hope, when the truth is that we cling to desperation & despair to feel the presence of a higher power when all we need to do is pray to find solace in Christ the Lord. God bless brothers & sisters. See you soon. STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1AmOdDaX It's amazing how you moved from someone's creative music to your "god". Your god is an absentee landlord who's abandoned you because it's just stories your parents told you to keep you in line. You want true salvation? Do good because it's the right thing to do and not due to fear of your imaginary deity's retribution.
I found God after 15 years of believing I am my own god, problem is, There is more proof of Jesus Christ and the miracles he preformed than you or I. Further more I feel the presence of God when I pray. I feel sorry for you.... for once I believed in hopelessness. I will pray for you brother or sister. God bless
Dude, no offense, man, but please go watch Carl Sagan's original Cosmos (which you can find in several places here on TH-cam), then drop some acid, come back, listen to this song, and think about just how empty and meaningless what you said really is. You come SO CLOSE, though, when you say that the truth is that people cling to desperation and despair to feel the presence of a higher power. SO close to right! ...but then you had to go ahead and demonstrate how this can be done by instead pretending to talk to your imaginary frien-I MEAN-"""""""""god(s)""""""""", by saying, "all we need to do is pray to find solace in Christ the Lord." Doesn't it bother you that there is no evidence for the existence of gods or the truth of any of the other truth claims of any religion? That is to ask, does it never bother you that there exists literally as much evidence for the existence of god(s) as there does for unicorns, fairies, leprechauns, the Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot, Reptilians, etc.?
Dan J. Wilcox flat out .... they are one of the best bands of the last 20 years .... it's criminal that they are not better known. People are missing out
I bought this and three other VNV nation albums off the back of this song... and I really don't regret it. It's beautiful. The lyrics seem to say despair but the music says other things, I think.
Been listening to this song a lot lately, and just had a very strange dream last night in which I was reincarnated into life as a crow. Sure, it was liberating to fly around and have zero limitations upon what I could do, but I was kind of jarred, upon waking up, at how I viewed humanity in that dream. I saw what I could clearly discern as lovers quarreling and breaking up. I could clearly see drug deals going back and people being shot and killed. I saw new lives being born in forested hillocks. I saw great projects being undertaken and completed until the planet was completely enshrouded within our species' machinations-and I didn't care about any of it. It was all completely meaningless and had no point, as I continued scavenging for food to survive and sharing it with others just for a chance to wake up the next day. What an awesome song this is.
Its been 2 years, but you don't have to, the life its like this meaningless, just enjoy the very little things in your life even tough and even more if you are poor but spiritualy rich in your mind.
Same here. First time went to a Gothic Club in Berlin 20 years ago. Heard Beloved for the first time and fell in love with VNV Nation. Today Ronan Harris is still good, but his current music is too polished for me.
This was the first pop music or adult music that i ever liked... my intro to anything that wasn't child music or radio music... same time as i started fiddling with tracker music FT2 and such
Song goes much deeper than that, even. It's about mourning over a loss, such as a breakup, or even a tragic loss of a love one. Even in the moments of the end of everything, the feelings will still remain.
I believe on this song. The world is so sick. The most importend is the fu....king money...but the love is the truth between oss.....vnv nation, de/vision is the answer. Greetings from sweden!
Character, excellence, wholesomeness, positive value (helpful to health & well being), joy, love are the most important, money is a tool of exchange of perceived value, it's not important at all. There are other tools & means of exchange of perceived value. What's upsetting is "man's inhumanity to man". The tool of money is an excuse for horrid people to be inhuman to good people and to harm society via attempts to diminish dignity & self confidence of people who don't participate in exchange using the tool of money. Be strong, wake up each day with your face turned to the sun, eat organic and plenty of leafy greens, stay away from toxins like mercury, fluoride, chlorine (derivatives) and plastics (BPA etc). Lead a wholesome life, be close with nature. You are loved, valued & important. Be confident within yourself to live & pursue your life's path, don't compare yourself to others. Your own path is just as important. Sunshine & blessings. :-)
I'm glad people mainstream people don't like this sort of music. That is because it isn't mainstream music. It is better than mainstream music. VNV NATION FOREVER!
Beautiful song--they played it last night at Webster Hall. Awesome concert! Even tho I'm a huge VNV fan & have seen them live many times b4 I had never heard this song--man, was I missing out! I want to say a HUGE thank you to the guy I asked at the end of the concert what the name of this song was. He told me it was "Further" & now I have a new favorite VNV song--THANK YOU! Can't wait to see them in Bklyn in March 2012!
added this to the soundtrack of my life. gotta hear it at least 3 times a week. to help me forget about my silly wants and desires. "The Sun was born, so it shall die So only shadows comfort me I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me"
This is the type of song you listen to at 3:00 in the morning when feeling hopeless, it makes me feel like whatever we make for ourselves will be pointless because it will end eventually.
Why pin meaning upon future regard? You are/were here. The meaning you took from life is & was always enough. The ego is concerned with dynasty, the heart only knows the infinite present moment without prejudice
Oh, you're right. I've seen the error of my ways. Instead of validating my search for attention with name-calling and belittling insults, you've instead convinced me to rethink my life, go out into the real world and star living! Thank you!
I keep waiting for this myself - been writing emails .. no one seems to know what to do haha crazy!! NOTE: I mean I write emails to VNV NATION not my mother.
Hmm ... If a loop, it is one at each moment. Look at time like a sea, each moment an atom within the vastness of the ocean. All moments existing at the same time. :-)
The notion was explored in stone's gate, it seems, yes. Though, at each moment it's eternity and all moments exist at same time, to "send" something "back" through time one would need to transcend eternity.
In what seems like a past life, 10 or more years ago, my ex-wife introduced me to this song. Shortly after, I remember having a nap and waking up to an overcast sky with the strongest feeling of sehnsucht and this song and its powerful lyrics running through the forefront of my mind. Since that moment, every few years, I will wake up with this song in my mind, no matter how much has changed throughout my life. I never listen to VNV nation or this song otherwise. It happened again this morning.
not sure how many people know this, but this song? it was used for the ending theme in a game called Iji. i think that might have been its original purpose but im not sure. play that game! its free and amazing!
The IJI game is quite old, but I`ve opened it to myself only recently. The soundtrack led me here too :) LifeForce version impresses me much, much more. Especially after such a game!
vnv nation are SO great also because they are able to talk to EVERYONE and everyone can interpret songs as he feels and accordingly to what he believes.
I can safely say that I've finally found a group who does music I enjoy and not just the one song.Lifeforce thank you for your cover version or I would never of have known about VNV Nation!
At the end of days, at the end of time i hope the blast youre music out in space so future generations see that we were not wrong in all perspectives. Love from Sweden
In my opinion , the artist ,is thinking of retrobution, as, i did when ,i listenned to the brilliant lyrics ...and most respected in the manner of humbleness.TY for your higher concepts VNV
Plainly, I do this for the pleasure of meeting people who are filled with that blend of partial literacy, bottomless self-assuredness and tremendous aggression that one finds only on the internet - particularly among fans of bands whose lyrics are a series of cliches strung together and whose music is mostly written by their instruments.
i'm in love with this song!!! XD "Over the years, a number of people at concerts, have called out for us to play "End of days". As most of you know, we don't have a song called "End of days". We do, however, have a song called "Further". It would seem that, some years ago, someone who didn't know what the song was called, was sharing it on various pirated music sites and labelled it "End of days", referring to the first line of the song." Quoted from VNV Nation's Myspace blog.
fortunately this is a simulation and the end is the opening of a new chapter, this is not a cosmic accident, it is a purposeful design. you are a god in training.
Me and a friend used to sing this to eachother as teenagers, relating with our own love life at the time. But as we grew up, and all that's going on-- it's my friend and I who will find in darkness
I know many people find this music depressing, but I dunno... I get this sense of liberation from it, it's almost freeing. I just .. feel upliftment. Not depression. VNV is amazing.
Same here. I went and read through the lyrics, trying to figure out where the sense of hope is coming from... the words themselves don't seem hopeful at all. All I can think of is that the whole song looks to the future, and the future is hope. (Oh, and there's also "I will find you." That seems pretty hopeful, taken out of context.)
...I think I've figured it out. This whole song is a question. It _asks_ whether there's any hope left in the world. That sense of liberation you feel is your answer.
The crocodilians enjoy it because it implies you get to watch cool explosions like supernovae.
@@torondin What do you mean by "crocodilian"? It sounds almost like you're accusing us of being sadists, which doesn't make much sense.
@@Tzizenorec Nothing of the sort. It's just me referencing an old video I did featuring the amstrad crocodiles and this song. Basically we had the idea that this song plays at amstrad crocodile raves.
Can't believe I've been listening to VNV for more than 20 years. Never gets old.
Never gets old, but you & I do
Had this song all of a sudden in my mind, came here started playing it and thoght , this song never gets old, then read your comment..Lol :)
Never
True dat! Btw I like ur first name Daniel 😊
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The saddest thing for me is that I stumbled across this song and VNV about 8 years ago. :( but even sadder than that is that I am thebonly one that I know of that listens to this style of music and listens to vnv. Personally know of I am speaking, not the texted words from screen names that have left their place upon this cherished thread for this cherished music. :) but with out those texted words from anonymous screen names, I might have never found this band so many years ago. So thank you, all of you, for letting me enjoy this music and showing it to me so many years ago.
Only my husband knows about this music and group if that says it all, if they played this at stores and radio we might have a different society
Yeah I don’t even know anyone that listens to this genre lmao
One of the most underrated gems of early VNV, and one of my all-time faves. Thanks for putting this up!
I watched them play this live on Goth-tronic Leeuwarden - The Netherlands long long ago
Was geht mir dieser Song unter die Haut...und das nach so vielen Jahren! Immer wieder der Wahnsinn, was Musik mit einem macht 🙏🏻💞
VNV has a particular talent at describing through music something you've always had inside but hadn't the means to express.
Yes, well said.
Every time I watch this video, no matter how frustrated, exuberant, or melancholy I am, it takes away all of my negative thoughts and lends me empathy for humanity. It gives me hope, knowing that despite all of our worst actions, there is just a glimmer, a chance that it can all be changed for good.
been listening to this band for many years. I find their music calming and soothing. which is the best thing as their music as helped me through some rough and bad times
The song that soothes and calms my baby to sleep after I’ve tried everything else.
Be aware. Your baby just might to be an upcoming president or some any other important person
@@jebulaattori Goth baby for prez!
Keep VNV Nation close, they've helped me in rough times. They are a true inspiration.
@@officialSuicideKlown they helped me too. In my most darkest hours
Blivande nihilist.
At the end of days, at the end of time
When the sun burns out will any of this matter?
Who will be there to remember who we were?
Who will be there to know that any of this had meaning for us?
And in retrospect I'll say we've done no wrong
Who are we to judge what's right and what has purpose for us?
With designs upon ourselves to do no wrong,
Running wild unaware of what might come of us
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Without a thought I will see everything eternal
Forget that once we were just dust from heavens far
As we were forged, we shall return perhaps someday
I will remember us and wonder who we were
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
In Goth clubs, we always dance alone. It's the only way to really feel the music, and celebrate every feeling, not just the happy. That is what makes Goth a personality and not a phase or trend. Embracing all emotions and art that expresses all of them well.
its interesting how an anonymous fan video can become the seminal vision of this song. Just a fan making their interpretation through visuals....and gave a new dimension in their own right.
And I'm so glad he did it.
This is one of those existential songs that lasts forever.
That happened on a smaller scale with 'Spaceflight' by Efence.
Also there are a few songs I uploaded the definitive version of, mostly on my other LyriMetacurl channel (though they don't have videos, just an image).
I think it's Hero of the Federation from Starship Troopers 2, and some royalty free ones e.g. Mercury (DL-Sounds) and The Supernova's Reset (Zat).
th-cam.com/video/YeROYM5khwc/w-d-xo.html
This actually reminds me of the Too Dark Park backing videos. If the band had released an official video, we'd never know this version
Just never gets old indeed, makes me dance alone in my house everytime.
This song has brought tears to my eyes. It has been a long time since a band could do that.
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
...
At the end of days, at the end of time
When the sun burns out will any of this matter?
Who will be there to remember who we were?
Who will be there to know that any of this had meaning for us?
And in retrospect I'll say we've done no wrong
Who are we to judge what's right and what has purpose for us?
With designs upon ourselves to do no wrong,
Running wild unaware of what might come of us
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Without a thought I will see everything eternal
Forget that once we were just dust from heavens far
As we were forged, we shall return perhaps someday
I will remember us and wonder who we were
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
The sun was born and so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins
And though you're far away from me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me
Went back through 10 years of comments here and didn't see a mention about the creator/credit given to. This video is the backing video that was played while the song was performed on the "FuturePerfect" tour in 2002. There was also an amazing video for "Carbon" that was played with all sorts of statistics about the Earth flashing up on the screen. I would imagine Ronan had some involvement unless another person/group handled the background images/videos. My favorite song of theirs and looking forward to hearing it live again on 10/29/16 in NYC for the Compendium Tour.
i went to a vnv show on that tour and I remember the carbon video but not this one.
I actually went to a 2002 gig in Haarlem but I don't recall backing video's :O
I remember talking to Ronan though...
@@-pq7ke87i I believe this video was present in the very first US tour (the one that got half-cancelled when APB backed out of some dates) at least in some form. At least, I remember the blue wave background.
@@JimTyphoon Yes! I think it was the 2001 tour in the US, they only played 4 dates. 9 dates in 2000 - I was at both Tampa Masquerade shows - I couldn't stop watching it and still to this day!
For anyone looking for the 'Carbon' song with the statistics, here you go: th-cam.com/video/4OkqzojXn9o/w-d-xo.html
So many memories that still hurt...this song makes me cry but I still love it
this song reminds me that i will always reconnect with those i lost or missed and see them gain
if not again in this lifetime than always in another
I still like to listen this song 14 years after the first time I listened it.
Same dude. 2007? I think? Or 06? I'm getting old lmao
@@ChaserPlays yeah..we are getting old :/
Listening to this now feels like sitting beside my 17-year-old self, across time and space
Sounds corny though lol
One of the most beautiful and inspiring songs ever composed in my opinion :)
You're not alone with this opinion.
Yesterday Ronan said that he wrote this song in his darkest hours. It was very touching.(30 years vnv show at Amphitheatre Gelsenkirchen)
Danke VNV NATION, das es euch gibt, die beste Musik seit Depeche Mode in den 80"er Jahren.
Danke für 2011, das neue Album Automatic, und das geniale Concert in Dresden,
für 2012 viel Erfolg und verzaubert uns weiter so mit eurer Musik!
Gruss an alle Fans von Steven
"Forget that once we were just dust from heavens far" A very sobering and humbling thing to think that over billions of years cosmic dust and gas coalesced and created art, music, feelings, thought, pain, pleasure, life and death.
@@kokomartinez4684
Your comment is just a big wordsalad. Get help.
@Psygnostic < Don't even mind the above, we think therefore we are... it will all end in about 22 billion years once the Big Crunch/Big Freeze sets in, and then possibly another Big Bang will happen... everything in the known universe seems to go on in cycles... Let there be light, and there was VNV2.0 ;)
@@Fellow_Traveller1985 Sorry, about that.
Phone hacked.
What I type sometimes doesn't appear as I wrote.
Regardless, I should've proof read.
Thanks.
Early "spooge"...
Does that term EXIST in Websters? Anywhere?
@koko martinezYou don't exist nor have you ever.
I am a hopeful christian. With that said, I feel this album helped me grow away from the feeling that I am alone. Knowing what I have read & the input forced upon me in the negative systematic bull ish. I love how music can evoke the deepest feelings in your soul...feelings strong enough to make you cry, feel empty & hopeless with the faint glimpse of hope, when the truth is that we cling to desperation & despair to feel the presence of a higher power when all we need to do is pray to find solace in Christ the Lord. God bless brothers & sisters. See you soon. STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1AmOdDaX It's amazing how you moved from someone's creative music to your "god". Your god is an absentee landlord who's abandoned you because it's just stories your parents told you to keep you in line. You want true salvation? Do good because it's the right thing to do and not due to fear of your imaginary deity's retribution.
I found God after 15 years of believing I am my own god, problem is, There is more proof of Jesus Christ and the miracles he preformed than you or I. Further more I feel the presence of God when I pray. I feel sorry for you.... for once I believed in hopelessness. I will pray for you brother or sister. God bless
Dude, no offense, man, but please go watch Carl Sagan's original Cosmos (which you can find in several places here on TH-cam), then drop some acid, come back, listen to this song, and think about just how empty and meaningless what you said really is. You come SO CLOSE, though, when you say that the truth is that people cling to desperation and despair to feel the presence of a higher power. SO close to right!
...but then you had to go ahead and demonstrate how this can be done by instead pretending to talk to your imaginary frien-I MEAN-"""""""""god(s)""""""""", by saying, "all we need to do is pray to find solace in Christ the Lord."
Doesn't it bother you that there is no evidence for the existence of gods or the truth of any of the other truth claims of any religion? That is to ask, does it never bother you that there exists literally as much evidence for the existence of god(s) as there does for unicorns, fairies, leprechauns, the Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot, Reptilians, etc.?
Neil Degrass Tyson....... Made a newer show too, i only saw it. It looks so good. :D
jeremiah peever HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
17.02.2006 - 18.02.2024 (18 years ago) Happy brithday Further 🎉
One of my favorite VNV songs,love these guys
"Who are we to judge what's right and what has prupose for us?"
Great song! thx VNV Nation
this is the greatest song ever from VNV...
I have been a longtime fan of this band, their music is simply brilliant.
Dan J. Wilcox flat out .... they are one of the best bands of the last 20 years .... it's criminal that they are not better known. People are missing out
I bought this and three other VNV nation albums off the back of this song... and I really don't regret it.
It's beautiful. The lyrics seem to say despair but the music says other things, I think.
Been listening to this song a lot lately, and just had a very strange dream last night in which I was reincarnated into life as a crow. Sure, it was liberating to fly around and have zero limitations upon what I could do, but I was kind of jarred, upon waking up, at how I viewed humanity in that dream.
I saw what I could clearly discern as lovers quarreling and breaking up. I could clearly see drug deals going back and people being shot and killed. I saw new lives being born in forested hillocks. I saw great projects being undertaken and completed until the planet was completely enshrouded within our species' machinations-and I didn't care about any of it. It was all completely meaningless and had no point, as I continued scavenging for food to survive and sharing it with others just for a chance to wake up the next day.
What an awesome song this is.
That is amazing and so enlightening.. Songs can inspire so much to happen in our minds.
The Crying Man I almost cry with this.
It's really moving - I agree - their songs bend me well
Its been 2 years, but you don't have to, the life its like this meaningless, just enjoy the very little things in your life even tough and even more if you are poor but spiritualy rich in your mind.
Apollo's bird- The Crow or Raven
This song is epic without a doubt but the history below is also amazing... I love it Scroll back... keep scrolling for years... I love you VNV NATION!
This song just really puts things in perspective
This was one of my first favorites ever when I joined youtube in 2006 - still a video I watch from time to time :)
More than 20 years since I heard it for the first time and it is still one of my favorite songs of all time :)))))))
Same here. First time went to a Gothic Club in Berlin 20 years ago. Heard Beloved for the first time and fell in love with VNV Nation. Today Ronan Harris is still good, but his current music is too polished for me.
How the hell have I been missing this band?
+Scott McClenaghan Time & place for every thing :-)
+Mirka Ja, es ist wahr...
viel sonnenschein
Scott McClenaghan viel sonnenschein :-)
+Mirka Sonnenschein? Ha. In Florida, ja. VNV? Ich bin mir nicht so sicher... ;)
There are too few songs that make you ask thoughtful, philosophical questions. This is a rare find.
Just discovered this band ! They r my favorit from now on !
Still listening to this banger 10+ years later!
Magnificent. Every time. Long time fan ❤️
I watched them play this live on Goth-tronic Leeuwarden - The Netherlands long long ago
I was this band in concert. They were awesome. Great voice. No it was awesome.
cucharlie2006 se iji a second vercion of this seach for iji-further
Borges Freitas seconded
cucharlie2006
Your saw is reversed
Been listening for over 10 years and I still adore this band just as much as the first time I heard it.
I love this song. I feel all weird inside when I listen to it... like I've just had my heart broken or something.
This was the first pop music or adult music that i ever liked... my intro to anything that wasn't child music or radio music... same time as i started fiddling with tracker music FT2 and such
I love how old this video is.
Song goes much deeper than that, even. It's about mourning over a loss, such as a breakup, or even a tragic loss of a love one. Even in the moments of the end of everything, the feelings will still remain.
I believe on this song. The world is so sick. The most importend is the fu....king money...but the love is the truth between oss.....vnv nation, de/vision is the answer. Greetings from sweden!
Character, excellence, wholesomeness, positive value (helpful to health & well being), joy, love are the most important, money is a tool of exchange of perceived value, it's not important at all. There are other tools & means of exchange of perceived value. What's upsetting is "man's inhumanity to man". The tool of money is an excuse for horrid people to be inhuman to good people and to harm society via attempts to diminish dignity & self confidence of people who don't participate in exchange using the tool of money. Be strong, wake up each day with your face turned to the sun, eat organic and plenty of leafy greens, stay away from toxins like mercury, fluoride, chlorine (derivatives) and plastics (BPA etc). Lead a wholesome life, be close with nature. You are loved, valued & important. Be confident within yourself to live & pursue your life's path, don't compare yourself to others. Your own path is just as important. Sunshine & blessings. :-)
I'm glad people mainstream people don't like this sort of music.
That is because it isn't mainstream music. It is better than mainstream music. VNV NATION FOREVER!
Sem comentários é maravilhoso sou DJ e nos eventos q eu faco sempre coloco vnv nation nos sets
I'm just listening to it over and over. I just can't stop. The major key change at the chorus always makes my heart melt.
This song is amazing, beautiful!! I can't describe how I feel everytime I listen it
Beautiful song--they played it last night at Webster Hall. Awesome concert! Even tho I'm a huge VNV fan & have seen them live many times b4 I had never heard this song--man, was I missing out! I want to say a HUGE thank you to the guy I asked at the end of the concert what the name of this song was. He told me it was "Further" & now I have a new favorite VNV song--THANK YOU! Can't wait to see them in Bklyn in March 2012!
Angesichts dieser Genialität ist es erschreckend was VNV heute für ein Gedudel produziert.
added this to the soundtrack of my life.
gotta hear it at least 3 times a week. to help me forget about my silly
wants and desires.
"The Sun was born, so it shall die
So only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness I will find you giving up inside like me"
Found this song due its being covered by LifeForce for the soundtrack of the game Iji.
Nice song.
This is the type of song you listen to at 3:00 in the morning when feeling hopeless, it makes me feel like whatever we make for ourselves will be pointless because it will end eventually.
Why pin meaning upon future regard? You are/were here. The meaning you took from life is & was always enough. The ego is concerned with dynasty, the heart only knows the infinite present moment without prejudice
This song is like mushrooms. Euphoria, and tears.
Yes, that's true
Ugh....I can't believe this video was posted 16 years ago....I feel ancient
Ugh....now 17 years...even older!
Iji
+ZanzaKlaus Respect! :)
dude I love that game mad props to you
The best indie game done
Oh, you're right. I've seen the error of my ways. Instead of validating my search for attention with name-calling and belittling insults, you've instead convinced me to rethink my life, go out into the real world and star living! Thank you!
i wish someone would upload this in a 1080p version.
Rex1987 144p is best p.
ClumsyWizard hehe:D
I keep waiting for this myself - been writing emails .. no one seems to know what to do haha crazy!! NOTE: I mean I write emails to VNV NATION not my mother.
Hello from Athens,Greece...what a great live before years....THANK YOU
All times exist at all times :-) eternity in a single point
We live and die in a loop at every age at every life.
Hmm ... If a loop, it is one at each moment. Look at time like a sea, each moment an atom within the vastness of the ocean. All moments existing at the same time. :-)
Each moment, eternal
steins gate? sorry nevermind.
The notion was explored in stone's gate, it seems, yes. Though, at each moment it's eternity and all moments exist at same time, to "send" something "back" through time one would need to transcend eternity.
In what seems like a past life, 10 or more years ago, my ex-wife introduced me to this song. Shortly after, I remember having a nap and waking up to an overcast sky with the strongest feeling of sehnsucht and this song and its powerful lyrics running through the forefront of my mind. Since that moment, every few years, I will wake up with this song in my mind, no matter how much has changed throughout my life. I never listen to VNV nation or this song otherwise. It happened again this morning.
not sure how many people know this, but this song? it was used for the ending theme in a game called Iji. i think that might have been its original purpose but im not sure. play that game! its free and amazing!
the world may never know O.o seriously though, iji is like my favorite game right now. id love a 3-d game like it.
The Man It was covered by a group called LifeForce actually.
The IJI game is quite old, but I`ve opened it to myself only recently. The soundtrack led me here too :)
LifeForce version impresses me much, much more. Especially after such a game!
This version of the song came out in 2000 on Burning Empires. The Iji remix was made in 2008.
ronan is a prophet for our times, and speaks just what is on the minds of the many....
144p the dream, watch it on a toaster for maximum enjoyment
I feel colder and like im floating when i hear this, its an amazing feeling....
Me after reading Ozymandias
Diese Gruppe hat auch was für sich, ist echt geil...! Gehört nun auch zu meinen Favoriten,
this can be the greatest piece of art ever. seriously.
VNV Nation one of the most great band ever ! And really amazing on stage ! Seen them 6 times, always the same great emotional effect ! VNV for ever !
vnv nation are SO great also because they are able to talk to EVERYONE and everyone can interpret songs as he feels and accordingly to what he believes.
♥ Even after all these years I come back and listen to this masterpiece from time to time
I can safely say that I've finally found a group who does music I enjoy and not just the one song.Lifeforce thank you for your cover version or I would never of have known about VNV Nation!
At the end of days, at the end of time i hope the blast youre music out in space so future generations see that we were not wrong in all perspectives. Love from Sweden
Start listen 2 vnv when the time being...and this is one of my favorites.
Man, this brings back memories of days spent in middle school on KaZaa downloading sub-par to mediocre quality music videos. Thanks for the upload.
Jeeeeeesus, my ex used to listen to these guys. Just brought back a lot of memories for that time. Just stumbled across them again.
One of the best songs ever, I never tire of hearing this.
Saw VNV at the Mayan in L.A. last year for the first time and it was the best show ive ever seen so far.
This song is the opposite of depression...very inspiring
Woo! VNV Nation - Further rocks!
Thanks for putting the song up!
YOUR AWESOME!
i AM RUSSIAN. отличная музыка и текст... vnv люблю и слушаю , молодцы... изменились они немного... но в лучшую стотрону...
In my opinion , the artist ,is thinking of retrobution, as, i did when ,i listenned to the brilliant lyrics ...and most respected in the manner of humbleness.TY for your higher concepts VNV
there is no other voice like ronan´s - touches me so deeply and i never get tired listen to him. great songwriter 2
easily my favorite VnV nation song. it just inspires so many feelings in me. ^_^ truly amazing how this group touches your soul
OMFG, Ty so much for posting this. I jes love vnv nation and also, this is my FAV song, VNV OWNS. Damn this is so good
Plainly, I do this for the pleasure of meeting people who are filled with that blend of partial literacy, bottomless self-assuredness and tremendous aggression that one finds only on the internet - particularly among fans of bands whose lyrics are a series of cliches strung together and whose music is mostly written by their instruments.
i'm in love with this song!!! XD
"Over the years, a number of people at concerts, have called out for us to play "End of days". As most of you know, we don't have a song called "End of days". We do, however, have a song called "Further". It would seem that, some years ago, someone who didn't know what the song was called, was sharing it on various pirated music sites and labelled it "End of days", referring to the first line of the song."
Quoted from VNV Nation's Myspace blog.
Today is the day I came upon this video and thus came upon VNV Nation. Today is a good day.
How can anyone dislike this tune? It is PERFECT!!!!
Yahoo! Thanks for posting this on TH-cam! :)
fortunately this is a simulation and the end is the opening of a new chapter, this is not a cosmic accident, it is a purposeful design. you are a god in training.
Dudes, I'm stuck in the middle of Kentucky and I love VNV Nation. I think I have been displaced.
Love them. Last album is brilliant. Such good tunes.
Me and a friend used to sing this to eachother as teenagers, relating with our own love life at the time. But as we grew up, and all that's going on-- it's my friend and I who will find in darkness
I listened to this years ago, and suddenly i had it in my head. I typed in VNV and BOOM!
Here it is.
Memories
As confirmed by Ronan Harris of VNV at his 2008 Melbourne concert - the name of the song is 'Further' - ands it is GREAT :-)