But if Ostinato locked you into Melodious, you wouldn’t be able to build the Runick Melodious deck that you’re inevitably going to win German nats with ?!?!
12:29 What a flex: I thought, I could just bring a deck to locals without having played it before. I made many mistakes. ... I still won the locals though. LOL.
Ostinato is a one card first darklord + full lancer: Ostinato combo for bacha and 2 refrains, link bacha and refrain for condemned DL, discard one to get superbia, xyz for ghostrick mischief and get shot from deck, concerto using mischief, condemned and superbia for first DL and shot for mischief into armor fortress. I discovered this when i was building Darklord despia and mischief turns out to be an incredibly good way to go into the armor fortress line. I love these new melodious cards, they’re so good for rogue decks. Enjoy the combo and splash it where you can :)
You often talk about features present or missing from existing archetypes that are indicators of good or bad design. I think it would be interesting to see you try to design a new archetype from the ground up, incorporating your preferences and design ideas.
This is what I like to see when playing yugioh. A deck with where at least 20 cards are from the archetype, and an Extra Deck with with 10 or more of the same. It represents the true objective with which the archetypes were created at the beginning of Yu-Gi-Oh, and it is more fun to fight against something that has cards of its archetype on its field plus one/two monsters outside of it, than competitive decks where they abound the generic monsters and there is almost no representation of what the deck supposedly has in its name.
I do want to mention that depending on your locals scene you should side or even main deck elegy, as she is your main way to counteract labrynth or tenpai dragons. Tenpai even if you do make a full board can go into an unaffected rose dragon, kinda cringe to die to this but more importantly lab can just use field spell and lovely and out your boards unless you etoile them, complete immunity to this means you just need to contest the daruma which can be dodged by etoile and thats manageable Another important note is that tenpai can alternatively try to just kill you on board, by going into the synchro 10 during the Main (under field spell) force your girls into attack and then just kill you via battle damage (since aria protects them). I found making the Other fusion really good in these situations (as schuberta barely does anything in the matchup) since you can just tagout your entire board besides her and they dont have the ressources to now go into the samurai XYZ and kill you (to out the fusion).
I'm really excited for melodious. I plan on playing it with the supreme king cards when we get both in master duel since the deck does need electrumite to work well.
This looks like a good decklist! I like the overview of the deck. I was curious on what this deck does and why it was gaining so much traction in the TCG.
@@Dreadlash yeah but what I'm saying is that the pure version right now can easily make more melodious fusions than it needs to make. So if they ever make more, then the archetype can easily make them and pure would most likely be the best version (if those monsters are good). I'm not saying the archetype is bad or it can't do things, I'm saying the pure version CAN easily do MORE but that "more" doesn't really exist right now. In other words, the archetype has more room to grow, if Konami wants to give them those monsters.
This is my favourite deck this format! Genuinely so happy you love this deck. Also, runick Melodious is unironically a good deck, I've been playing it quite a bit at locals and some ots events to decent success! I really hope you consider the deck as an option, it's really fun and really cool!
What I've been saying is that one card combos are perfectly fine on their own, and that the real issue is the end boards being filled with broken generic monsters they all have available. Melodious is a perfect example to prove this claim. As long as the end board is actually fair, it really does not matter if you have several one card combos in your deck that each end up playing trough like 15 cards. The problem is and always will be what you can actually make with those combos.
No. The problem is if every one card combo in your deck ends on a 12card board. Because at that point it doesnt matter if I handtrap you 3 times as long as you activate that one bonifre, SNash etc its over over for me and I start with 3 cards less in hand or even 0 if they rip them with omega. 1card combos are fine if they and on lets say 3 interactions and the rest of the hand is flexible.
@rickmel09if you play against people who end their turn on a trident and pass. I would like to know where you are playing cause I am gonna fuck your whole locals up🤦🏾♂️😭😂
yes and no....generic card/monsters is what Yugioh is made of and part of what makes it fun for a lot of people, unless you want a rotating format like in other games, and therefore the problem, most of the time, with a couple of exceptions, is the fact that new engines (full of one card combos) give you too much card advantage...like too much, one card can give you mor than 10 cards in advantage, which in turns with the amount of cards available in the game, let you, inevitabily get access to insane boards, and that Konami cannot predict the outcome of because of the sheer amount of interaction they would have to test out before hand to prevent it from happening.
I believe its a rogue deck. Not because its weak but its truly underrepresented in a pure variant. Heck theres just way too many viable decks now this year since agov. I see a volcanic player at locals still winning and another guy is playing darkworld and the other guy is playing FUCKING MIKANKO. Shits insane. Decks just fall off due to popularity but they re so strong in the right hands.
I got so many nostalgic feelings with this deck…me and my best friend tried so badly to make this deck viable almost ten years ago…it’s so cool to see our divas finally shine.
Oh my God, yes. I love Refrain. I would die for Refrain The Meloudious Songstress. This support card changed my life and it's going to be the best card ever.
The banish bounce melodious is giving me major redoer vibes, my fav boss monster of all times. I might wanna try this deck out once they reprint first movement solo.
Love your videos, man. Got back into Yugioh after playing Legacy of the Duelists and Melodious was one of those decks I'm glad got good support after experiencing it before the support. Curious to see the inevitable additions of Runick, Duality, or Paleo.
Even if they don’t archetype lock you, they should have some type of restrictions or soft locks like salamangreat and marincess getting attribute locked by their best starters, or branded being fusion locked. sometimes the power level of an archetype is so close to being competitively viable but because they can't benefit from the support cards that they really need to push up the meta like salad without princess 😭. If chimera locked themselves only into their archetype they would be almost unplayable even though they have 1card starters they don’t have enough gas or power ceilings solely in their archetype to play without illusion/fusion support cards.
So I have been hearing that the spell 'Spellbound' could be as useful as a DBarrier, but I haven't really gotten a chance to use it. Personally I love playing Frightfur and Nephthys.
Do you think some cards of the engine will be banned/limited or do you think is just strong but not a problem that need the banlist treatment? If you think something will be touched of the engine what will be? Something of the engine itself (refrain, bacha, ostinato, ecc..) or something that uses the engine maybe (vortex, exceed, condemn ecc..)
I think a light or fairy lock would be better than a melodious lock. I don’t like how splashable the deck is now, but a looser lock would make for better creativity.
Concerto doesn't summon a melodious it's any fusion monster as long as you use 1 melodious , can be used to summon Shaddolls or Guardian Chimera for example
After eating all of your YT content recently what are your plans on the upcoming nats? Will you continue testing melodious/other top decks or just give in and play SE?
Generally I’m a big fan if they give anime decks good support. It can always bring in more players, which is good for the game. But the delicate balance is there to make it good enough to compete but not too generic so it gets splashed in everything and it ends up getting hit for the sins of other decks
Can't wait for the next deck profile to also start with him casually saying he won the locals lol There should be a prize at that gamestore for whoever beats Josh
Oh, so now we're alright with strong one-card combo decks that lock you into their archetype and make a strong but non-generic board? *Circular cries in the banned corner*
when archetype locks doesn't equal bad it's a good day in yugioh. I really like Yubel but I don't like how it's just Fiend link pile dot deck right now. where most people cut the yubel fusion and super poly to fit more hand traps and generic extra deck spots.
Oh my God, yes. I love Raye. I would die for Sky Striker Ace Raye. This support card is going to change my life and it's going to be the best card ever
The only person in the whole TH-cam who knows how to correctly pronounce Shopina's name. Never thought I'd see (or hear) that. lol That's a "thank you" comment BTW. 😆
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But if Ostinato locked you into Melodious, you wouldn’t be able to build the Runick Melodious deck that you’re inevitably going to win German nats with ?!?!
Ostinato doesnt lock
@@juanmesa7096that’s….the joke?
He is going to play Runick Tenpai at nationals
@@juanmesa7096 he was talking in the video that there should be a lock for ostinato hence the joke was made
Bro, what you play to get locked out of getting jokes.😂
0:50 "I managed to the win the locals, as always" lol
when josh says X-0 he means local wins and not rounds
I feel bad for anyone at his locals lol
I misunderstood at first, but he said "...I did manage to win locals. As always, I'll leave a link to the locals in the description"
12:29 What a flex: I thought, I could just bring a deck to locals without having played it before. I made many mistakes. ... I still won the locals though. LOL.
Me when I take words out of context:
Ostinato is a one card first darklord + full lancer:
Ostinato combo for bacha and 2 refrains, link bacha and refrain for condemned DL, discard one to get superbia, xyz for ghostrick mischief and get shot from deck, concerto using mischief, condemned and superbia for first DL and shot for mischief into armor fortress.
I discovered this when i was building Darklord despia and mischief turns out to be an incredibly good way to go into the armor fortress line.
I love these new melodious cards, they’re so good for rogue decks. Enjoy the combo and splash it where you can :)
You often talk about features present or missing from existing archetypes that are indicators of good or bad design. I think it would be interesting to see you try to design a new archetype from the ground up, incorporating your preferences and design ideas.
Runic Paleo 2?
Dont worry, a few years from now when an Ostinato searcher comes out it will lock you into Melodious
Then, simple, dont use that searcher 😅
Triple Tactics Thrust doesn't lock you into Melodious 😉
@@szymonsadlo we need a spell that searches all spells without restrictions
and we want a spell that searches that spell
@@ayham613 and Droll on the banlist? 😉
@@szymonsadlo konami should limit droll and make a spell that searches it
This is what I like to see when playing yugioh. A deck with where at least 20 cards are from the archetype, and an Extra Deck with with 10 or more of the same. It represents the true objective with which the archetypes were created at the beginning of Yu-Gi-Oh, and it is more fun to fight against something that has cards of its archetype on its field plus one/two monsters outside of it, than competitive decks where they abound the generic monsters and there is almost no representation of what the deck supposedly has in its name.
Pure melodious looks like it never bricks and plays through a bunch of handtraps.
I do want to mention that depending on your locals scene you should side or even main deck elegy, as she is your main way to counteract labrynth or tenpai dragons. Tenpai even if you do make a full board can go into an unaffected rose dragon, kinda cringe to die to this but more importantly lab can just use field spell and lovely and out your boards unless you etoile them, complete immunity to this means you just need to contest the daruma which can be dodged by etoile and thats manageable
Another important note is that tenpai can alternatively try to just kill you on board, by going into the synchro 10 during the Main (under field spell) force your girls into attack and then just kill you via battle damage (since aria protects them). I found making the Other fusion really good in these situations (as schuberta barely does anything in the matchup) since you can just tagout your entire board besides her and they dont have the ressources to now go into the samurai XYZ and kill you (to out the fusion).
I'm really excited for melodious. I plan on playing it with the supreme king cards when we get both in master duel since the deck does need electrumite to work well.
I like the Melodious stuff in the Z-Arc deck. Feels good to have the ability to get scales and interaction off of one card
My friend built Melodious for locals as his 2nd deck. I play Tenpai and sometimes struggle to pass his end boards even while opening board-breakers.
This looks like a good decklist! I like the overview of the deck. I was curious on what this deck does and why it was gaining so much traction in the TCG.
Him talking about Snake-Eye Ash and Poplar popping up is so unreasonably funny
Nice video Josh, as a returning player your videos really help me get a better grasp on how to play the modern format
I've been playing melodious for so long and am happy that they finally getting more attention
I'm so glad more people are picking up melodious, it's such a cool deck and it deserves more of a spotlight
Big fan of Tamtam and Fusion Sub. It's a free discard for the link 2 and gets an additional draw later, so nice
Pure almost feels like it could be a very strong deck. It can easily end on 3+ fusion boss monsters, it just doesn't have that many yet.
Double Schuberta, Etoile
@@ky... Not enough against every deck (eg shifter decks)
@@reirei_tkyou just bagooska vs shifter deck
Or etoile + handtraps
@@Dreadlash yeah but what I'm saying is that the pure version right now can easily make more melodious fusions than it needs to make. So if they ever make more, then the archetype can easily make them and pure would most likely be the best version (if those monsters are good). I'm not saying the archetype is bad or it can't do things, I'm saying the pure version CAN easily do MORE but that "more" doesn't really exist right now. In other words, the archetype has more room to grow, if Konami wants to give them those monsters.
I'm so happy that I had a full core of this deck (obviously except for the new cards) laying at home and didnt need to buy a full playset 15€+ SR card
Josh winning accidentally locals streak: 4
I'm really happy to see you try the deck out! I picked it up a while ago and I've been having tons of fun with it!
The ending song man. Gorgeous. Elegant.
This is my favourite deck this format! Genuinely so happy you love this deck. Also, runick Melodious is unironically a good deck, I've been playing it quite a bit at locals and some ots events to decent success! I really hope you consider the deck as an option, it's really fun and really cool!
What I've been saying is that one card combos are perfectly fine on their own, and that the real issue is the end boards being filled with broken generic monsters they all have available. Melodious is a perfect example to prove this claim. As long as the end board is actually fair, it really does not matter if you have several one card combos in your deck that each end up playing trough like 15 cards. The problem is and always will be what you can actually make with those combos.
No. The problem is if every one card combo in your deck ends on a 12card board. Because at that point it doesnt matter if I handtrap you 3 times as long as you activate that one bonifre, SNash etc its over over for me and I start with 3 cards less in hand or even 0 if they rip them with omega.
1card combos are fine if they and on lets say 3 interactions and the rest of the hand is flexible.
@rickmel09 drident is not a strong card lmao. The fieldspell is the problem
@@幽霊船-o4hso you just repeated what the other dude said in worse. Especially since you took the 15 one card part way to serious/literal
@rickmel09if you play against people who end their turn on a trident and pass. I would like to know where you are playing cause I am gonna fuck your whole locals up🤦🏾♂️😭😂
yes and no....generic card/monsters is what Yugioh is made of and part of what makes it fun for a lot of people, unless you want a rotating format like in other games, and therefore the problem, most of the time, with a couple of exceptions, is the fact that new engines (full of one card combos) give you too much card advantage...like too much, one card can give you mor than 10 cards in advantage, which in turns with the amount of cards available in the game, let you, inevitabily get access to insane boards, and that Konami cannot predict the outcome of because of the sheer amount of interaction they would have to test out before hand to prevent it from happening.
I've been playing it the last couple locals, and it really catches people off-guard when they see busted card after busted card
I believe its a rogue deck. Not because its weak but its truly underrepresented in a pure variant. Heck theres just way too many viable decks now this year since agov. I see a volcanic player at locals still winning and another guy is playing darkworld and the other guy is playing FUCKING MIKANKO.
Shits insane. Decks just fall off due to popularity but they re so strong in the right hands.
@user-vl8ck4gz6w mikanko was my locals deck before melodious 💀 It's fun, but definitely doesn't go as hard as melodious
ayye mikanko gang. There are dozens of us
I got so many nostalgic feelings with this deck…me and my best friend tried so badly to make this deck viable almost ten years ago…it’s so cool to see our divas finally shine.
This was really fun but i miss the paleo fixation a little ngl
Bonus points for going pure on this deck though
U can also play Elegy in pure ver...
Basically Elegy protects your monsters from destruction effects which creates a lock with Aria
Fun fact about couplet, it triggers if you draw it, just not as your normal draw
Oh my God, yes. I love Refrain. I would die for Refrain The Meloudious Songstress. This support card changed my life and it's going to be the best card ever.
Amazing video as always! I also love how the new boss monster was designed
it always brings me joy to watch you do deck profiles
The banish bounce melodious is giving me major redoer vibes, my fav boss monster of all times. I might wanna try this deck out once they reprint first movement solo.
Time thief is that boiiii
Melodious is one of those decks i always wanted good support for honeslty, glad they came up with a non toxic way to make it strong
Love your videos, man. Got back into Yugioh after playing Legacy of the Duelists and Melodious was one of those decks I'm glad got good support after experiencing it before the support. Curious to see the inevitable additions of Runick, Duality, or Paleo.
Love your content Josh!
I’ve been watching every single one of your vods
Keep up the great work ❤
just got back into the game, gna start off with paleo thanks to ur vids
1 card combos should always lock you in-archtype, its only fair
Nah. Archetype locking sucks and kills creativity.
@@ChuuniKaede i specifically mean 1 card combos. They are broken and have no draw backs. Which actually stiffens creativity
Even if they don’t archetype lock you, they should have some type of restrictions or soft locks like salamangreat and marincess getting attribute locked by their best starters, or branded being fusion locked. sometimes the power level of an archetype is so close to being competitively viable but because they can't benefit from the support cards that they really need to push up the meta like salad without princess 😭. If chimera locked themselves only into their archetype they would be almost unplayable even though they have 1card starters they don’t have enough gas or power ceilings solely in their archetype to play without illusion/fusion support cards.
my realm for a errata on ostinato restricting to only melodious for the rest of the turn
and that zeus sleeves are fire
Been loving the content and, learning more about the game. Got a runick core and thinking of combining it with either lightsworn or ghoti.
So I have been hearing that the spell 'Spellbound' could be as useful as a DBarrier, but I haven't really gotten a chance to use it. Personally I love playing Frightfur and Nephthys.
Music based decks are some of my favorites, especially Solphachord 💜
I love how affordable the Ostinato Melodious package is right now and can fit into many decks, I hope it stays that way!
it would stay if only it wasn't cheap
The best thing to do with the Zeus Sleeves, is to put them on your Extra Deck and use Melffy sleeves for the Main Deck
Those zeus sleeves are so cool. Would love to use them for my paleo extra deck.
I have to say, Zeus is my favorite monster. Those amazing sleeves would be a perfect addition to my collection! Thanks.
Great content as always! I have the sleeves that you have in your extra and I used your link
Do you think some cards of the engine will be banned/limited or do you think is just strong but not a problem that need the banlist treatment?
If you think something will be touched of the engine what will be? Something of the engine itself (refrain, bacha, ostinato, ecc..) or something that uses the engine maybe (vortex, exceed, condemn ecc..)
This deck is interesting at minimum, there's a bunch of different things you can do just based on what you open
The melodious cards are really cool. I like refrain and ostinato. Awesome that suck powerful cards are common
It's actually funny that you have a sponsor that sells OCG accessories because I've been looking to buy some myself so that's very convenient lol
I remember playing a lot of melodious in duel links when they came out. They're a lot of fun.
Hey yo. Sick Zeus sleeves. Even better content Josh!
I think a light or fairy lock would be better than a melodious lock. I don’t like how splashable the deck is now, but a looser lock would make for better creativity.
love it josh, melodious it's now a good deck
I hope holoncardshop will get the new cartesia sleeves, would definitely buy those!
New to the competitive side of the game your videos have been helping me learn a lot faster appreciate you ❤️
Aight those sleeves would look nice on my new paleo deck :)
Im living like 20 minutes away from that store. when are locals and how is the prize support there?
Tuesday and Saturday, there‘s a link in the video description. Prizing is regular OTS Store prizing
Concerto doesn't summon a melodious it's any fusion monster as long as you use 1 melodious , can be used to summon Shaddolls or Guardian Chimera for example
It should be a Fairy Fusion monster so maybe not Guardian Chimera but can be Shaddol construct
Thank you josh for those beautiful zeus sleeves, i will protect my runick cards very well with them
After eating all of your YT content recently what are your plans on the upcoming nats? Will you continue testing melodious/other top decks or just give in and play SE?
oh boy would I love a nice pair of zeus sleeves to go with my sprigans extra deck...
Those ocg sleeves looks sick! I'm a big fan of ocg sleeves!
It's really intresting to see these old archetypes become meta, like melodius or yubel
Have you considered running the TamTam with Poly so you can access Guardian Chimera, as another way of breaking boards?
Can't wait till its in MD to try it out!
The music fit so well for the deck
There's something fitting about hearing Zelda's Lullaby while Joshua is doing Melodious 101 🎵
Pure melodious definitely goes hard!
And suddenly you’ve made me wanna play melodious!
Those zeus sleeves are fire
The Zeus Sleeves Are really cool, I once bought them in Japan for a friend.
The local is only one hour away from me.
Time to win with Ogdoadic!
I would love a combo/gameplay video next!
Josh dominating locals. Brother never fails
14:09 Yeah you are correct, cards like veiler, imperm and mourner still negate its effects and you dont get the ss from deck :_(
Generally I’m a big fan if they give anime decks good support. It can always bring in more players, which is good for the game. But the delicate balance is there to make it good enough to compete but not too generic so it gets splashed in everything and it ends up getting hit for the sins of other decks
Very nice deck and teaching the deck to new players!,
Can't wait for the next deck profile to also start with him casually saying he won the locals lol
There should be a prize at that gamestore for whoever beats Josh
1st movement being as high as it is is basically what is keeping me from playing this deck physically 😅
Melodious is just insane, I love the deck
Been getting back into the game through your content. If I win the sleeves I’ll use it as a sign to get back into it
"World Champion goes to Locals and bullys casual players" lolol ❤️
Does he not know couplet summons from hand or grave? So if you have a melodious in hand you can use the effect to summon a free melodious
Omfg those zeus sleeves are 🔥. Literally my favorite boss monster. And there safe to use. Yes sir!
Ich wohne in Hessen. Wo spielst du deine locals? Ich Spiele wöchentlich in Darmstadt
Josh since there isn't any eu ycs are you going to be coming to our Niagara ycs
As a musician, i really like the idea of this deck
Oh, so now we're alright with strong one-card combo decks that lock you into their archetype and make a strong but non-generic board?
*Circular cries in the banned corner*
when archetype locks doesn't equal bad it's a good day in yugioh. I really like Yubel but I don't like how it's just Fiend link pile dot deck right now. where most people cut the yubel fusion and super poly to fit more hand traps and generic extra deck spots.
Locals vlogs please! Love the Zeus sleeves 👍
I'm just glad we hear Ba-ha and not Ba-cha. That's just painful for me
Taco Bell Baha blast
i thought thas sound is written as a "kh"
Funniest thing is that the only expensive card is not part of the splasheble engine
Oh my God, yes. I love Raye. I would die for Sky Striker Ace Raye. This support card is going to change my life and it's going to be the best card ever
I wonder if melodious will be the pen deck that everyone wants
Man I wish I got those zeus sleeves, one of my favs arts on a card ever🙏🏼
I love Refrain. I would do anything for Refrain the Melodious Songstress.
The only person in the whole TH-cam who knows how to correctly pronounce Shopina's name. Never thought I'd see (or hear) that. lol
That's a "thank you" comment BTW. 😆
how good is the waifu tax on Melodious?