Hi I have the similar brakes but I took them apart to paint them ... my front brake pads have a long metal clip behind them ... do u have any videos showing the install Ty
After making sure that all the brake hoses and lines are in good shape and completely bleeding the brakes (both front and rear) check the free play on the brake pedal pushrod.
+JohnnyBoy Bigz Drop spindles use the late model 1968 (larger shaft) tire rod ends. If you have early tire rods on your Beetle they can be swapped (along with the wheel bearings and seals) to the later model units when you install the drop spindles.
I have a 72 beetle. 4 Lug pattern. When i tighten the bolts holding the caliper to the spindle, It locks up the rotor as well. Would this be the cause of: "machine tolerances" ? I'm just stuck at calipers.
daniel Jimenez Sam has the right idea here. If you have any questions about this or have more trouble, feel free to give us a call and we can help you through! 1-800-231-1784
+ryan odom The first answer that comes to mind is maintenance! These disc brakes are so much more user friendly in that the disc brakes do not require the brake adjustments that the drum brakes are notorious for. Also, disc brake systems have much fewer internal moving parts, interference with after-market wheel studs is virtually a thing of the past, allowing greater flexibility in wheel selection. Another benefit is a firm brake pedal meaning much less pedal pumping and more confident breaking ability. Performance-wise, the same is true as any disc vs. drum comparison. Drum brakes get hot as they are used, and the result is a fade of stopping power. The disc brakes have the advantage here as the rotor is fully exposed to the air helping ti remain cool. The direct result is greater braking ability in high performance situations, and overall brake system stamina. In short, we find the conversion is well worth the swap!
It is a night and day difference if you've ever driven a square back or late model Karmann Ghia you'll know what I'm talking about they came with disc they stopped so much better especially type 3 VW is because they're heavier
Thank you for asking! By “installation sleeves” are you referring to the bearing races? If so- this kit in particular uses the stock, or same as original bearings as used on the 1969 Beetle. There are other disc brake kits that use other than OEM bearing sizes, those kits in particular will have the bearings included in the kit. The kits that do not include bearings, will use the original bearings and leave you the option to replace them should you desire. As general maintenance, it is a good time to replace bearings at this time however. As for spindle angle, this is something that would typically be handled by the people performing your wheel alignment, however a quote taken from the Bentley Service Manual can be found here -> drive.google.com/open?id=1J8aYqTF45Ym6TLXe5CC8s7rjj8gGOpOz Complete details can be found in the Bentley Service Manual which can be purchased here -> www.jbugs.com/product/11-0800.html Thanks again for asking, and for tuning in to the Jbugs channel! Please feel free to respond if any further questions. Jbugs.com
I was actually asking about the installation tool sizes that install the bearing races. Do you by chance know the size for both inside and out of both the front and rear of the empi disc break conversion kits. its the same kit that you installed don your video.
The intention of these videos (to the best of our ability) is to use tools that are easily found in all neighborhoods. That being said, the bearing driver kit seen at 6:25 in the disc brake video, was purchased at Harbor Freight for about $40.00. This kit included the drivers to install both inner and outer races. It appears that this exact kit, may have been discontinued by Harbor freight, however they appear to have a replacement found here - www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-bearing-race-and-seal-driver-set-63261.html - It is not possible to know exactly what driver is needed as we do not know what kit you are using, however we have found that these kits from Harbor Freight have had all drivers needed for all VW applications we have tried so far.
I put dropped spindles on my 70 bug with new shocks but for some reason, my ball joint is rubbing on the inner part of the driver side rim. why would that be?
+Boulos Dabbour The only thing we could think of, without seeing pictures, is that wheels with a 14 inch diameter would rub against it. You are more than welcome to call our tech line at 1-800-231-1784 anytime for help. You could also email pictures to jamie@jbugs.com and we will be happy to take a look and help you from there.
tengo un vw bug model 94 pero es de 4 birlos el kit que tendria que comprar es diferente a este?? es decir tendria que venir con perforacion solo de 4?? o se le puede poner este mismo?? gracias espero respuesta!!
Primeramente, deberá determinar si su Beetle tiene un extremo delantero tipo king y link, o un extremo delantero de rótula. Una vez que sepa qué suspensión delantera tiene, puede elegir el kit de freno de disco con forma de orejeta que le gustaría. Ofrecemos kits de freno de disco de 4 orejetas y 5 kits de freno de disco de orejeta para ambos delanteros estilo Beetle.
ok gracias si es de tipo rotula y seria de 4 perforaciones, en usd que precio lo maneja y si hace envios a mexico cuanto en total con el envio?? y preguntarle tambien si me puede vender el kit para la parte trasera y tambien su costo muchas gracias espero respuesta!!
Nuestros kits de freno de disco delantero y trasero de 4 orejetas están vinculados aquí: www.jbugs.com/category/vw-disc-brakes-conversions-kits-4-lug.html . Lo sentimos, no realizamos envíos internacionales.
+Magnet Smash Lower profile tires allow more room when a car is lowered but they don't require a car to be lowered. However, they may look slightly out of place, as there will be a large gap between the fender and the tire.
+Arte Fawx Without knowing what model VW you have it is hard to answer specifically, Generally, if your VW came with original disc brakes, most any auto parts store will be able to offer replacement parts. If you are referring to a disc brake conversion kit, some kits use factory VW parts. Others use specific, aftermarket pieces.
The left side spindle is predrilled for the speedometer cable. Looking at the back of the left spindle, the speedometer cable pushes through the hole in the axle spindle, just as the stock cable would. In some spindles the hole is slightly offset of the center line and may require a bit of force to make it through the spindle and into the bearing cap. Pulling the bearing cap off may make it a bit easier.
@@JBugsVWParts it's ok, there was a machineing error. Where two parts met the holes were off, so I drilled the little step that was a result of that error
I'm thinking of converting my bug to disc. Will I need a new master cylinder? It is a 1973 standard beetle. Also, does this disc brake conversion work with the speedometer that runs off the stock spindle? Thanks any advice would be helpful.
jfunderburk456 The 1968 year model and later master cylinders should not need to be replaced unless a rear disc brake kit is also being installed. If all four wheels are disc, then the dual circuit master cylinder (www.jbugs.com/product/16-9554.html) should be used. This part is for the standard beetle only. (Not Super Beetle) This kit will allow usage of the original speedometer. I hope that answers your question! If you have any more questions please feel free to give us a call: 800-231-1784
Thank you for asking! The kits that require bearing replacement will have the bearings included in the kit. If the kit you order has bearings included, then that kit in particular uses a bearing that is different than stock, and in that case- yes, the bearing must be replaced with what was included. If your kit does not include bearings, this indicates that the kit uses the factory bearings, in which case bearing replacement would be at your discretion based on the condition of your existing bearings. As general maintenance, it is a good time to replace them however
+Alonso N This vehicle is also equipped with an adjustable front beam. As the vehicle is able to be lowered further than the 2 1/2" drop spindles will allow, we used the 135 SR 15 tires for this vehicle. If the drop spindles were used alone, without the adjustable beam, 145 SR 15s would have worked just fine.
Yes, the process is a bit different on the 1956 Beetle as the 56 has a Link Pin front suspension setup where as the 1969 Beetle portrayed in the video has a Ball Joint style front suspension. A schematical description of the link pin can be found here. drive.google.com/file/d/0B9zI3G17toO0QXg5aWhLbGFlVWs/view If you're not installing drop spindles, the disc brake kit merely bolts on in place of the backing plate, and the spindle themselves are not removed. If you do plan to install drop spindles on a Link Pin Suspension, the King Pin, #11 in the schematic is removed from the carrier allowing the spindle, #21 to be replaced with the drop spindle. Usually the link pins #13, are first removed from the control arms allowing better access to the spindle. Once the spindle is installed, the installation is pretty much the same as described in the video. Please feel free to give us a call at 1-800-231-1784 if you have further questions. We are more than happy to help as much as we can, and thanks for looking!
This specific kit (22-2926 - www.jbugs.com/product/22-2926.html) will work with the stock master cylinder. For 1966 models, we recommend swapping to a dual circuit (1967-1977) master cylinder. If you are installing rear disc brakes as well, we recommend installing a large bore master cylinder.
Great review on disc brakes I plan on doing this on my 72 super beetle thanks for the great review 👍🏼
Super helpful, thanks!
Hi I have the similar brakes but I took them apart to paint them ... my front brake pads have a long metal clip behind them ... do u have any videos showing the install Ty
Great video!
Hi I was wondering about the camber adjustment on the front, could you possibly show how that was done?
Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the disc brakes? I put discs in front but they're not braking as much as they need to.
After making sure that all the brake hoses and lines are in good shape and completely bleeding the brakes (both front and rear) check the free play on the brake pedal pushrod.
was that a stock spindle no right saw is gave it a lil more drop also is the tie rod the same of my 68 I want to put drop spindles also
+JohnnyBoy Bigz
Drop spindles use the late model 1968 (larger shaft) tire rod ends. If you have early tire rods on your Beetle they can be swapped (along with the wheel bearings and seals) to the later model units when you install the drop spindles.
My upper ball joints bought off Jbugs don’t look like my original & new ones from jbugs don’t fit drop spindle from jbugs. Original ones do. Help me
I whould like see more of this in future txs Bro
There isn't much of this car left. It got turned into a Baja a few years after this video was created.
I have a 72 beetle. 4 Lug pattern. When i tighten the bolts holding the caliper to the spindle, It locks up the rotor as well. Would this be the cause of: "machine tolerances" ? I'm just stuck at calipers.
You can most likely use a shim (just a washer) in between the caliper and the spindle to keep the caliper from hitting the rotor.
daniel Jimenez
Sam has the right idea here. If you have any questions about this or have more trouble, feel free to give us a call and we can help you through! 1-800-231-1784
how much of a difference does the disk make, vs. the drum brakes?
+ryan odom
The first answer that comes to mind is maintenance! These disc brakes are so much more user friendly in that the disc brakes do not require the brake adjustments that the drum brakes are notorious for. Also, disc brake systems have much fewer internal moving parts, interference with after-market wheel studs is virtually a thing of the past, allowing greater flexibility in wheel selection. Another benefit is a firm brake pedal meaning much less pedal pumping and more confident breaking ability. Performance-wise, the same is true as any disc vs. drum comparison. Drum brakes get hot as they are used, and the result is a fade of stopping power. The disc brakes have the advantage here as the rotor is fully exposed to the air helping ti remain cool. The direct result is greater braking ability in high performance situations, and overall brake system stamina. In short, we find the conversion is well worth the swap!
It is a night and day difference if you've ever driven a square back or late model Karmann Ghia you'll know what I'm talking about they came with disc they stopped so much better especially type 3 VW is because they're heavier
On a 1966 vw beetle, will the factory dust covers work or do I need a different style for this kit?
The factory covers should fit, yes. Linkpin cars will need special caps.
@@Sam_Mebane Thanks for the timely reply.
great video. what is the diameters of the instillation sleeves for the bearings? also do you know what angle or degree to set the spindle at?
Thank you for asking! By “installation sleeves” are you referring to the bearing races? If so- this kit in particular uses the stock, or same as original bearings as used on the 1969 Beetle. There are other disc brake kits that use other than OEM bearing sizes, those kits in particular will have the bearings included in the kit. The kits that do not include bearings, will use the original bearings and leave you the option to replace them should you desire. As general maintenance, it is a good time to replace bearings at this time however. As for spindle angle, this is something that would typically be handled by the people performing your wheel alignment, however a quote taken from the Bentley Service Manual can be found here -> drive.google.com/open?id=1J8aYqTF45Ym6TLXe5CC8s7rjj8gGOpOz Complete details can be found in the Bentley Service Manual which can be purchased here -> www.jbugs.com/product/11-0800.html Thanks again for asking, and for tuning in to the Jbugs channel! Please feel free to respond if any further questions. Jbugs.com
I was actually asking about the installation tool sizes that install the bearing races. Do you by chance know the size for both inside and out of both the front and rear of the empi disc break conversion kits. its the same kit that you installed don your video.
The intention of these videos (to the best of our ability) is to use tools that are easily found in all neighborhoods. That being said, the bearing driver kit seen at 6:25 in the disc brake video, was purchased at Harbor Freight for about $40.00. This kit included the drivers to install both inner and outer races. It appears that this exact kit, may have been discontinued by Harbor freight, however they appear to have a replacement found here - www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-bearing-race-and-seal-driver-set-63261.html - It is not possible to know exactly what driver is needed as we do not know what kit you are using, however we have found that these kits from Harbor Freight have had all drivers needed for all VW applications we have tried so far.
I put dropped spindles on my 70 bug with new shocks but for some reason, my ball joint is rubbing on the inner part of the driver side rim. why would that be?
+Boulos Dabbour The only thing we could think of, without seeing pictures, is that wheels with a 14 inch diameter would rub against it. You are more than welcome to call our tech line at 1-800-231-1784 anytime for help. You could also email pictures to jamie@jbugs.com and we will be happy to take a look and help you from there.
tengo un vw bug model 94 pero es de 4 birlos el kit que tendria que comprar es diferente a este?? es decir tendria que venir con perforacion solo de 4?? o se le puede poner este mismo?? gracias espero respuesta!!
Primeramente, deberá determinar si su Beetle tiene un extremo delantero tipo king y link, o un extremo delantero de rótula. Una vez que sepa qué suspensión delantera tiene, puede elegir el kit de freno de disco con forma de orejeta que le gustaría. Ofrecemos kits de freno de disco de 4 orejetas y 5 kits de freno de disco de orejeta para ambos delanteros estilo Beetle.
ok gracias si es de tipo rotula y seria de 4 perforaciones, en usd que precio lo maneja y si hace envios a mexico cuanto en total con el envio?? y preguntarle tambien si me puede vender el kit para la parte trasera y tambien su costo muchas gracias espero respuesta!!
Nuestros kits de freno de disco delantero y trasero de 4 orejetas están vinculados aquí: www.jbugs.com/category/vw-disc-brakes-conversions-kits-4-lug.html . Lo sentimos, no realizamos envíos internacionales.
Will I have to lower my suspension or use low profile tires? I have a 1302 Super
+Magnet Smash
Lower profile tires allow more room when a car is lowered but they don't require a car to be lowered. However, they may look slightly out of place, as there will be a large gap between the fender and the tire.
How hard is it to get ahold of new rotors and pads? are they available at local parts stores or only at Jbugs?
+Arte Fawx
Without knowing what model VW you have it is hard to answer specifically, Generally, if your VW came with original disc brakes, most any auto parts store will be able to offer replacement parts. If you are referring to a disc brake conversion kit, some kits use factory VW parts. Others use specific, aftermarket pieces.
What about the speedometer cable? I got this and i couldn't get it to go through the hole.
The left side spindle is predrilled for the speedometer cable. Looking at the back of the left spindle, the speedometer cable pushes through the hole in the axle spindle, just as the stock cable would. In some spindles the hole is slightly offset of the center line and may require a bit of force to make it through the spindle and into the bearing cap. Pulling the bearing cap off may make it a bit easier.
@@JBugsVWParts it's ok, there was a machineing error. Where two parts met the holes were off, so I drilled the little step that was a result of that error
Is it possible to use drop spindles with the OEM drum brakes?
Drop spindles can be used with drum brakes on Beetles & Karmann Ghias, yes. Part number 22-2858 fits link pin models, 22-2859 fits ball joint models.
I'm thinking of converting my bug to disc. Will I need a new master cylinder? It is a 1973 standard beetle. Also, does this disc brake conversion work with the speedometer that runs off the stock spindle? Thanks any advice would be helpful.
jfunderburk456
The 1968 year model and later master cylinders should not need to be replaced unless a rear disc brake kit is also being installed. If all four wheels are disc, then the dual circuit master cylinder (www.jbugs.com/product/16-9554.html) should be used. This part is for the standard beetle only. (Not Super Beetle) This kit will allow usage of the original speedometer. I hope that answers your question! If you have any more questions please feel free to give us a call: 800-231-1784
I have a 69 bug . If I get the disc brake spindles will I need new bearings etc ?
Thank you for asking! The kits that require bearing replacement will have the bearings included in the kit. If the kit you order has bearings included, then that kit in particular uses a bearing that is different than stock, and in that case- yes, the bearing must be replaced with what was included. If your kit does not include bearings, this indicates that the kit uses the factory bearings, in which case bearing replacement would be at your discretion based on the condition of your existing bearings. As general maintenance, it is a good time to replace them however
What kind of mesure are the wheels? Nice videos dude
The BRM Wheels are available in 15x5, 15x6.5 and 17x7 sizes. We used the 15x5 on the red convertible.
which size is the tires used in this video
+Alonso N
This vehicle is also equipped with an adjustable front beam. As the vehicle is able to be lowered further than the 2 1/2" drop spindles will allow, we used the 135 SR 15 tires for this vehicle. If the drop spindles were used alone, without the adjustable beam, 145 SR 15s would have worked just fine.
+JBUGS great is vwry helpful am a good customer from jbugs the items are great
is the process different on a 56
Yes, the process is a bit different on the 1956 Beetle as the 56 has a Link Pin front suspension setup where as the 1969 Beetle portrayed in the video has a Ball Joint style front suspension. A schematical description of the link pin can be found here. drive.google.com/file/d/0B9zI3G17toO0QXg5aWhLbGFlVWs/view
If you're not installing drop spindles, the disc brake kit merely bolts on in place of the backing plate, and the spindle themselves are not removed. If you do plan to install drop spindles on a Link Pin Suspension, the King Pin, #11 in the schematic is removed from the carrier allowing the spindle, #21 to be replaced with the drop spindle. Usually the link pins #13, are first removed from the control arms allowing better access to the spindle. Once the spindle is installed, the installation is pretty much the same as described in the video. Please feel free to give us a call at 1-800-231-1784 if you have further questions. We are more than happy to help as much as we can, and thanks for looking!
+JBUGS wow wasn't expecting such a thorough answer. I appreciate it. I will be calling soon thanks for the great response
Thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure Jesus.
DOES THE MASTER CYLINDER NEED TO BE REPLACED, OR A PROPORTIONING VALVE NEED TO BE ADDED?
This specific kit (22-2926 - www.jbugs.com/product/22-2926.html) will work with the stock master cylinder. For 1966 models, we recommend swapping to a dual circuit (1967-1977) master cylinder. If you are installing rear disc brakes as well, we recommend installing a large bore master cylinder.