@@redtussock I would never behave like Dennis. He seems very aggressive and not a person I’d go for a motorcycle ride with or a coffee. Don’t ever want to associate with that type. He’ll never see the error of his ways. Cheers.
Literally my irish catholic father brought up in south auckland with these kids and a really hard upbringing was asked to join the mongrel mob and he told me there was no way I was joining their little gang or anyone's gang and they respected that because he wasn't the type to be bullied into a gang by anyone or be a part of a group bullying innocent people and hurting people because he'd been hurt his whole life. Someone that has been truly hurt does not want to hurt others
Indeed... I grew up in the UK in the aftermath of the war that gave the freedoms that this Mob member so takes for granted. He really is one twisted individual.
7:40 "colonization, slavery..." No mate, the only ones who had slaves was his ancestors who brutalized and colonized this land as much as mine did... probably more!
In 1835 some displaced Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama, from the Taranaki region, but living in Wellington, invaded the Chathams. On 19 November 1835, the brig Lord Rodney, a hijacked[34] European ship, arrived carrying 500 Māori (men, women and children) with guns, clubs and axes, and loaded with 78 tonnes of potatoes for planting, followed by another load, by the same ship, of 400 more Māori on 5 December 1835. Before the second shipment of people arrived, the invaders killed a 12-year-old girl and hung her flesh on posts.[35] They proceeded to enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others, committing a genocide. With the arrival of the second group "parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting. If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals."[36]
Yeah there was some very aggressive tribes and they committed atrocities all over the place including to british and european settlers. As soon as history is correctly laid out that it has never been a matter of horrible colonials and innocent maori the better it will be because no one should be seen as the same and life should never be seen as so simple. And even at that point when people are being honest we can't paint all of the worst of the past onto our children, but to find the good stories and unities to bring people together, put the good onto youngsters souls, even now if a person murders someone, the entire race is not blamed for one persons act, so we have to live in reality as they used to, for a truly empowered and proud nation as we once were
This already happened 30 years ago, how can they make it any lower. I was 15 years old at school when they lowered pass rates for maori and pacifika communities to "flatten the curve" and it was bullshit because a lot of us were from mixed race families. It was like half of you is stupid and the other half oppressed you and then for everyone else it was like well how racist is that sh1t. Thats how we now have the most racist and dumb leaders because of policies like these. I dont want dumb and racist leaders creating demotivated nzers and then replacing us with immigrants every 30 years. Like we've well moved on even 30 years ago, the only thing they need to do is get our education back to colonial standards, not remove it and hire people in education good in the fields rather than hire people not to be racist while being racist and leaving out people that are nzers that would be better at teaching these subjects to nzers. Ardern isn't the first person to come up with the lower pass rate idea and it's BS, its literally copying what they've already done. Helen Clarke literally did this already and that's what started this sh1tstorm
Interesting year, yr ignorance on the CIA and US State Department creating the Ukrainian coup in 2014 which ultimately lead to the current Ukraine Russia war was rather sad.
Well that was an educational interview lols. Respect? I remember when I was knelt down at my parents combined grave arranging flowers, a member walked right in front of me, and walked across their grave. That's disrespectful, and arrogant!
Those in this country that demand respect have no concept of how to get or give any. They don't understand respect is earned and they are well in debt of that in society
Sorry that happened to you Mongrel MOB is massive . So I wouldn't judge all members or club by what an individual does . See if it's done as a unit or a team. Different story... I think a more seasoned veteran mobster could give you the strongest bark . Me I'm just a guppy in these waters .. happy New year. Out with the old in with the new mindsets.
@@naauaopai unfortunately with what this govt is doing, the mindsets are very old and almost that very similar of nazi like behaviour by dehumanizing certain people in society by referring to people as pakeha, colonial, lying about their contributions, histories and lives and segregating families races and opportunities in healthcare and education. There are a lot of things being done with the maori culture being used that is almost identical to what the Germans did to the european Jewish and gypsies in regards to negative and false propaghanda to normalize abuse and hate towards a white person in NZ which is what the nazis did do to the jewish people. I'm actually amazed by it considering our ancestors died in WW1 and WW2 to get away from these kinds of nasty values and behaviours
Sean displayed his ignorance when it comes to NZ history and to basic human rights. The "Mongrel Mob" member had some good points (respect for the dead) and what had happened in history. Denis spoke well and did not take Sean's bullshit. Yes, land was stolen and has still not been returned. It was stolen by the NZ Company and political biggots and some conniving merchants and also some Maori opportunists. Most settlers did not agree with stealing land and participated in buy/sell deals that were fair to both sides. Maori and Pakeha settlers were usually best mates. But then along came some immigrants greedy for a quick buck and used the Maori unfamiliarity with the commercial law and money matters to cheat tribes of land they did not want to sell. I reckon you can put whatever you like on your gravestone. Incidentally, the swastika is also a sanscrit(?) good luck symbol..Oh yes, Sean was really nasty at one point about Mongrel Mob Graves, but Denis kept his cool. Well done Denis. The abuse of young kids I already knew about but this revealed to me the deep-seated rancour felt by the victim. Shocking behaviour by Sean, but respect well earned with me by Denis.
He needs reminding that his PEOPLE flocked to religion so that is not an abuse argument he should use. It a shame he wasn't more on to it. And the host did himself a huge diservice and was confrontational at ,many times and let himself be drawn in to some mindless drivel.
Only Sean has the balls to talk to gang members like this.. Imagine if this was RNZ or TVNZ they'd all be nodding in agreement with the poor mobster and apologising for colonisation.
Umm, he worked for RNZ for years. WTF you talking about? RNZ talks to gang members constantly, they have documentaries going back 40years. You don't actually know what you are talking about right? You've never actually listened to RNZ? Am I correct?
@@brendonross5774 Do you work for them? lol. I used to listen to them all the time until about 2016 until the one sided wokeness was too much to bear. They seem to have it in for anyone who isn't far left like them. I don't mind if people are far left but they can't just control a public broadcasting station like that.
Funny thing is noone descended of colonials would be apologising for simply living somewhere building everything, creating a place that makes millions and yet their ancestors are lied about to the people here for the millions basically turning them into slaves. It's disgusting, if there was a referendum, very little amount of people would want their taxes given away for that, they would want it in their pockets. Giving away money for half truths, not good enough
Yes this is true. Maori adopted Christianity in their droves. They saw and understood the benefits of the gospels. Dennis could have a change of heat and mind if he ever decided to study history.
He is a product of his upbringing, and actually believes the crap that was coming out of his mouth....That's what makes him and those like him such a danger to everything that is good and decent in NZ.
Nazi swastika?maori history is the maori battalion defending NZ and western civilisation in WW1 . Like my great great grandfather in trenches, not meth dealing and crime .
People who ''Blame'' and make ''Excuse's'' will never move on....I say Stop all this ''Bull-shit and let them take ownership of their Anti-Social behavior....or forever be.... ''Oxygen Thieves''....
I guess its good to be truly aware who the herald and jacinda ardern are "helping" every time the herald shows gang patches on all their mongrel mob articles like gang adverts of fresh shiny new vests with now maori translations somehow and our govt is giving them millions of dollars while leaving people literally homeless who have committed no crimes
What makes you think he wants your hope your talking about a old man now how would hope help I think you're just talking for the sake of talking your futlie doesn't help this situation there's a whole gang of keyboard warriors in these comments
The comments from Dennis have no standing in intellectual or historical discourse, not even close.... however, I think that people have the right to memorize themselves as they feel fit...if however it breaches the rights and standards of a place of burial... because others have rights as well....then find a piece of Maori land and bury you and yours there....I don't think the descendants of the Maori battalion would be very accommodating though... just a thought.....
Sounds like he's been manipulated again by the powers at be with stories to excuse his behaviour and get him millions for their gain. It was too easy because he's a person that apparently never had love, didn't know where to place blame for his behaviour and someone came along and said it's not your fault your gang, gang raped women ,it was the institutions and it's easier to be brainwashed by institutions. Whether he likes it or not he's being brainwashed by the institutions again
@Kerry Kaea the treaty was designed to give all people equal rights because the tradition of maori is that other people are outsiders and the settlers and their families were being attacked and were very close to leaving because of more aggressive tribes that no one told them about. These settlers were poor labourers, missionaries and workers, a lot from scotland and ireland, very poor people and were put in a situation by both maori and british in charge not telling them what to expect. They were told there was homes etc and they got here after many months travel to find nothing here and they didn't have money to go back and had to somehow survive. It has never been just about maori, that actually doesn't make any sense. Yhe only people creating hate are some people by lying about and generalising people's families into a criminal category, also lying about people's financial circumstances in the govt and segregating people's races and acting as though people don't have a british side and aren't proud of them and aren't allowed to. My part maori cousin only 30 years ago wasn't "maori enough" for help and I wasn't maori so couldn't get an English scholarship in a poor neighbourhood. It would be good if you all woke up, learnt about your actual british families ancestries as to be not led down a path to hate ancestors that were good people. You don't see people going into maraes teaching things as basic as "all maori were cannibals" so they shouldn't be in these schools teaching lies that all colonials were bad and all maori were oppressed because its just not accurate and it's a tactic used by the Germans in nazi times to demoralize a nation. Leaders of a strong nation do not demoralise and lie to its people to incite hate, they empower its nation with unity, peace and strength and without these govts our families had done that on their own and empowered themselves year after year with unity, not supporting hating BS from the govt leaders on 450k a year from our taxes while a lot of nzers can barely afford a home
maoris are not the only ones who've had a bad up bringing. Bikie bangs should be made illegal. marxist love dividing people, Ardern is one fine example. New Zealand should be united be it your white, black or brown should be UNITED NOT DIVIDED.
This is what happens when so many people (including most politicians) make these ridiculous, hysterical arguments about colonisation, etc, people like Dennis make use of it for their own purposes, which are often dishonest and antisocial.
Well they, the Government, are trying to divide New Zealand... its quite shocking really and its happening all over the world, not just here. Its as if there is some type of central entity controlling all these governments.When the country is divided its easier to conquer, easier to slip stuff under the radar... Thing is to not give these underhanded scum the time of day and watch and call out everything they do.
@@ryancarper595 I don’t think they are trying to divide us. They’re just so sure their ideology is right that they refuse to see alternatives. This of course results in division.
He wants to respect tge dead.and be free to put nazzi symbols on head stones....?? He ahould start by respecting the dead and honoring the treaty of Waitangi that his ancestors signed and agreed to. ..if he has a gripe it's with his ancestors that sold him out.not the colonialisers that acquired it....I sold a few cars years ago that are worth triple the sale price now can I go back and try for reimbursement???
I was a guest and stayed overnight at Dennis Makalio’s home in Porirua back in 2004. His wife Liz was a sweetheart, the house immaculate, the hospitality exemplary. I had traveled down to Wellington from Rotorua with a founding president of the Mob Hop Roberts along with the Sgt of Arms a chap by the name of Fats. I was trying to get the mob to do a film deal with American film makers. Fascinating group. But I’ve met many groups over my 62 years.
Dennis is childish. When you argue you are supposed to be seeking mutual understanding with the idea of living together. That is the basis of morality; it is a code that makes society function. The colonisation and land theft claim is founded on: "..each group of people is fundamental different, and these primordial (`essential') differences constitute the basis for entitlement and engagement." _ Recalling Aotearoa. It is based on the thought experiment of reversing history and assuming the best possible outcomes. Apart from that the evidence is that children captured by Indians (and vice versa) hands down preferred the primitive lifestyle (in line with evolutionary psychology).
In a perfect world there wouldn’t be any gangs. Members admit they join for the brotherhood as their own parents didn’t love and nurture them. That said, they also confess they wouldn’t want their own sons to join a gang. Hence, they know it’s wrong. Dennis knows the swastika is wrong as his argument was based on two wrongs make it right - Europeans colonised , so the mob should also be allowed to do something bad. When people are burying their loved ones or paying their respects they should not have to see a symbol of hate , genocide, cruelty and murder . Keep in mind there are plenty of Maori who are anti gangs and swastikas.
Imagine proudly displaying a symbol responsible for the deaths of some 50 million people and the suffering of untold others, less then 100 years ago while complaining about your own "intergenerational trauma" from centuries ago.
That boys home abuse line has been thrashed to death with these mob member's. It's about 30 years to late to bring that crap up.. the system is not prefect but it dose not make people into monster's it trys to help people now days..this is just someone that dose not want to work for a living..simple
MONGREL MOB is history of the governments neglects and abuse. Like brother said . What is right is right and what is wrong . The boiz homes would torture young Maori And do unspeakable thing's. Ask survivors
how people talk of Jesus loves u but yet none one has seen met or even talked to Jesus face to face that talks of him today so obviously the whole Christian thing was used to contempt an colonized people. I grew up going to church i gave prey about 3 times a day everyday asking for help an guidience but yet I was still abused in many evil ways an none of the abusers were gang members obviously Jesus didn't hear me or love me jus a vulnerable little boy at the end of that life I turned out a gang member I hated society after I figured out what this world was all about power an controll rape pillage an plunder so repect to the brother Dennis I salute u
Sean < I get this guy as someone that went through the state care system in the late 70s / 80s as I hated all of society once I got out as the public didn't do shit to save us from the harms we had to face alone as a kid and where's our payout for them harms faced... Now it's taken 35yrs to overcome some of those demons & sadly can't say I'm finished repairing myself as I'm not as I still have a couple of Demons from that time that just won't let me be... Now the only reason I didn't join a gang was I promised someone I loved I would never do that and kept my word to them even after they passed... Shit just in my spelling you should be able to see the screwed-up education I got as I got thrown around 22 different schools over 10 yrs and got taught this same shit by four schools and got trapped in this dumb ass boot loop which screwed up the rest of my schooling... The only reason I can even spell is thanks to the old Nokia brink phone as texting back then taught me how to spell to an ok level... We don't normally talk about this shit as it brings up old demons and Sean I just want to keep moving forward... Why do think I have been so loud about the Vax Sean I saw the same pattern as I did in care and knew in my gut this wasn't going to end well for the country & its people... Now I didn't do this for all of NZ, I did it for those who did step up for me as a kid back then and they know they have my love & my respect to the day my heart stops pumping... If I went into detail on what I had to face as a kid you would be wounding how I've not chewed on the barrel of a shotgun yet trust me on that statement... Said too much an NZ don't be assholes as at the end of the day our life force is the same color... Can we just have a no-bullshit Christmas & New Year Please as I feel the complete country needs the break... With love NZ
In the first instance it was a failure of the family, extended family and for maori their iwi that resulted in young people ending up in state care which is not a good place to expect love and nurture. Blaming colonisation is a stretch.
I'm disappointed by this interview. A lost opportunity to have a civil conversation that might have helped integrate gang members back into society. I think Dennis was right to not want to be put on trial in the beginning. I disagree with Dennis. Especially re Christianity. French Catholics learned Maori on the way to NZ. They published books in Maori. And Maori spread the gospel faster than Pakeha could. Sean's points were right and if delivered with charity this could have been a transformative dialogue. If only he believed that brilliant statement of faith. Great defending of the Cross Sean 😊
You're making the assumption that it's so easy to have a civilized conversation with this person. They literally said white man stole land and so many other things many nzers have to hear from racists and I do feel only people truly from these areas, from these families and people who grew up around them understand what situation we are actually dealing with and he dealt with it pretty well
Deep deep trauma from The caller. Can’t deny what happened to these boys in those homes. Let’s not go there. But being in your 50’s and stuck in violence and projecting it on innocent people. Sad sad sad.
Put a swastika on your headstone in a public cemetery and see how well it's received. And by the way, headstones ARE NOT Maori traditionally any way so Dennis is actually a hypocrite.
this guy just said maori was keen to learn english to get ahead in life not even my nan and father was beaten if they talked maori when they was growing up
From growing up in south auckland, this is pretty normal behaviour for someone like this mongrel mob guy, nothing is their fault and everything is everyone else's fault
Well Dennis has a point to a degree . He doesn’t articulate well but he has a point . Sean is indoctrinated into the system , thinks mongrel mob insignia is offensive etc but to my mind being offended is a choice . I see mongrel mob crap and I’m not intimidated or offended I just see people choosing a different path . The mob needs to clean its act up for sure , stop the drugs and dealing and crime against good people etc but there are criminals in parliament and councils heaping misery on good people also and we as a society seem to think that’s ok . If you stopped in the street and talked to a mob member on his own sometimes they are just battling their way through life the same as the rest of us .
The swastika is frequently used as a sign of wealth and good fortune in both the ancient and contemporary worlds. The term comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means "conducive to well-being." It was a popular emblem on Mesopotamian coins.
In NZ due to our connections to hitler it has a different meaning like many other symbols. It's like a wolf in sheep's clothing. If the symbol is just about wealth and good fortune, it is not being used for the wealth and good fortune for others because they have literally gang raped and hurt people and destroyed kids lives for generations and whatever symbol they stamp on it its no different than hitler using it and manipulating people. It's like the hypocrisy of the "united nations" literally dividing people and causing chaos everywhere they go.
Dennis if you read this I'm so very sorry about the abuse you suffered,As a freedom lover I agree with you with your grave stone's its your thing and Free speech is just that! As a Christian I want you to know that Jesus loves you as much as he loves me, And as a kiwi I just want us all to live in peace alongside One another that's all I want .
He wants respect for his dead but this shows no respect for the millions of jews gassed under a racist nazi regime that many nzers died fighting in these wars. For someone who has been abused by a system you shouldn't be just going along with another symbol that abused others. It's shows massive ignorance considering this is a group of people that were gang raping women and abusing people. My father, Irish catholic that received the same abuse don't create hate towards an entire skin colour of people and have not created gangs like this. My father was asked to join these gangs and because he's a good person and actually experienced pain, he would never wish that pain on others, join a gang to inflict pain on others and then blame other people for their disgusting actions. A lot of us from these areas freed ourselves from group like mentalities in religiona because of the risk of being abused by superiors but they basically copied them and made their own abusive institutions where they could also prey on the weak.
@@elizabethbradley4301 I am trying to be as fair as possible that's all 💕 If you Knew what I have personally been through you would be blown away I'm being so fair,I've come to the conclusion they are hurt and only love can heal all hurt,My brother was almost Murdered & it terrorized me but I have no fear now just empathy,It can't be nice living a life being angry with everyone,If we show them fairness they may just leave normal society alone,We have no choice but to live Side by side its not like the police are on our side nowadays is It 😢
@@Theresa-td8yk that sounds absolutely traumatizing, i appreciate you sharing your story. In saying that, this is why we actively can't encourage feeling sorry for people who are hurting people unless they have actually shown that they aren't doing these things anymore and quitely sit in jail with guilt or quietly live a normal life not hurting people. But they are still doing them and doing bad things with a media circus encouraging them. They are using an experience which many others have had and adding racism and ignoring others pain while creating racism for them as well as an excuse to cause pain to others. The thing is the more we sit back and just feel sorry for people who are violent then the more we will become the people on the recieving end of this as more people with violent tendencies see that they can get away with it. My father had such an abusive irish catholic upbringing and he literally went to the same school and grew up with the mongrel mob leaders and made hangis and irish stews together and here they are berating white people like it has no meaning, they were kids together and friends at school, so I have a real understanding of some of the origins. My father would tell me stories of having to get these people off of women when they went out before they even started the mob. Some people are just entitled with other people's lives and have no empathy. My father was so respected by them because he was scary in his own right because he alone stopped many of them hurting people, they asked him to join the gang and he flat our refused because there was no way he was going to be a part of something so sick. Over time when my dad had moved on and grown up and had a family and wanted normality, these mongrel mobs guys choice was to create this gang and come together and literally gang raped women and killed people, its not a myth, it was real, I can't feel sorry for this. He told me these stories to ensure I stayed well away from them, you'd see it on the news, they are not the people you might be imagining they are because our news is always trying to make us feel sorry for the pricks and are creating hate for good people which is actually some of the first steps into communism. We need to be really careful as to who we feel sorry for and no anger is involved in my words, its purely caution and reason. The more they berate institutions and white people, they are targeting nzers and their families including mixed families if british and maori, which is a large part of society which does protect us mostly and when it hasnt, its hurt everyone, and its usually a culture thats being abused for control and hate, not the entire institution. Right now I honestly think they are abusing the maori culture and are dangerously associating it with jacinda and her leadership. With less respect for institutions and nzers, you have less respect for nz police which are the institutions and the police officers that may be white in them trying to protect us in amongst everyone else as they are berating colonials who are mostly good people. I have been robbed so many times since this govt got people in power saying white people were rich and oppressed maori and as you can tell from my story, we were quite poor and from abusive homes. This is not the institutions fault, this is the people currently in positions of power disrespecting their power and the people for their own personal goals. They have been lying and twisting so much about NZers stories and societies to give away all our money to people like this while making people homeless who were good people for not taking injections as if they are the criminals and they have abused and lied about all our cultures to create most the hate filled ideas and make all nzers question everything. Nzers unities are very special between british and maori and so many people are blindly disrespecting them because the tv is telling them to just like everything else the tv is telling them like it's OK to give the mongrel mob 2.4 million dollars of oir money to self rehabilitate instead of that money helping all nzers with drugs. It's a Neverending con and people need to think about things realistically so we can get some semblance of community, respect and normality back.
End of the day . None of the Mongrel MOB doesn't deal drugs. Get your facts straight.. and individual or individuals maybe but they don't speak for the mob. The mob have been doing great things in the community for a very very long time. Apart from the bad you can't control every single one either... Merry Christmas.. to you mbrotha 😎. Maybe chill a bit .
@@mjanny6330 as an ex member I'm still going to hold strong Ng to my belief that the Mongrel MOB can. And have the potential to do great and wonderful things for the community along with they're whanau and ohana.. Violence is all around us. Some just take comfort in pointing the finger and having a name to blame. Every single person has they're own story. Of they're upbringing good or bad. This or that. Condemning the masses and giving everyone a label is wrong. I'm not saying the mob aren't up to no good. Because as cooey east says. I know individuals that do wrong. But not everyone. You have the good. And the bad.. learn to deal with it
@@antonmiles8167 anton smiles☝🏻😏"God doesn't care for he well knows that all eventually return to the fullness of truth about themSELF Source Essential Life Force"💨🤍 Though it may take another lifetime or 1000
We all must understand mobsters were made bad by colonialism, and succumb meekly to their villainy and vice. Hugs and free money will sort them out. I wonder how many of the grunting sieg heilers would have signed on for the SS, as traitors to their own whanau who fought in the Māori battalion?
Here's a thing regards nazis,,,a resolution was tabled at the United Nations late November,to ban the glorification of nazism,,,105 countries voted in support,,,15 or so abstained,,,the rest voted against the resolution,,,we voted against,,,im surprised the Platform didn't pick up on it
This is such BS they moan about the living wearing patches now there moaning about the dead and we are talking about a cemetery where people have to pay for there hole they should be able to do what ever they please with there hole GET OVER IT
Nothing like a bit of unhealthy divide and conquer aggression to start the holiday season with. It didn't take much to set this firecracker off. Wouldn't want to be the person he takes his rage out on after this.
Plenty people had a poor upbringing and a bad start in life, but didn’t end up like, Dennis.
@@redtussock I would never behave like Dennis. He seems very aggressive and not a person I’d go for a motorcycle ride with or a coffee. Don’t ever want to associate with that type. He’ll never see the error of his ways.
Cheers.
Literally my irish catholic father brought up in south auckland with these kids and a really hard upbringing was asked to join the mongrel mob and he told me there was no way I was joining their little gang or anyone's gang and they respected that because he wasn't the type to be bullied into a gang by anyone or be a part of a group bullying innocent people and hurting people because he'd been hurt his whole life. Someone that has been truly hurt does not want to hurt others
Absolutely....... that's why the system used to work.... until the liberal socialist agenda was mainstream.....
@@elizabethbradley4301 Thank you Elizabeth for sharing that story and may it be an inspiration for others who might read what you say.
Cheers.
Indeed... I grew up in the UK in the aftermath of the war that gave the freedoms that this Mob member so takes for granted. He really is one twisted individual.
The Nazis would remove our Dennis by lunchtime..
I'm a Nazi. Dennis has exactly the same mentality as us, but for his race.
7:40 "colonization, slavery..." No mate, the only ones who had slaves was his ancestors who brutalized and colonized this land as much as mine did... probably more!
Slavery is alive and well in our society today...most don't know it.
@@Peter_Pepper_Love It's illegal
@@lu-uf8zj our earthly masters could care less.
In 1835 some displaced Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama, from the Taranaki region, but living in Wellington, invaded the Chathams. On 19 November 1835, the brig Lord Rodney, a hijacked[34] European ship, arrived carrying 500 Māori (men, women and children) with guns, clubs and axes, and loaded with 78 tonnes of potatoes for planting, followed by another load, by the same ship, of 400 more Māori on 5 December 1835. Before the second shipment of people arrived, the invaders killed a 12-year-old girl and hung her flesh on posts.[35] They proceeded to enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others, committing a genocide. With the arrival of the second group "parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting. If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals."[36]
Yeah there was some very aggressive tribes and they committed atrocities all over the place including to british and european settlers. As soon as history is correctly laid out that it has never been a matter of horrible colonials and innocent maori the better it will be because no one should be seen as the same and life should never be seen as so simple. And even at that point when people are being honest we can't paint all of the worst of the past onto our children, but to find the good stories and unities to bring people together, put the good onto youngsters souls, even now if a person murders someone, the entire race is not blamed for one persons act, so we have to live in reality as they used to, for a truly empowered and proud nation as we once were
killers
The reason he is in the mob is shown here. He's not intelligent enough to do anything else.
@TheMarathonom. Absolutely and obviously true. Brave call mate.
This is why Adern wants educational passes lowered for minorities
This already happened 30 years ago, how can they make it any lower. I was 15 years old at school when they lowered pass rates for maori and pacifika communities to "flatten the curve" and it was bullshit because a lot of us were from mixed race families. It was like half of you is stupid and the other half oppressed you and then for everyone else it was like well how racist is that sh1t. Thats how we now have the most racist and dumb leaders because of policies like these. I dont want dumb and racist leaders creating demotivated nzers and then replacing us with immigrants every 30 years. Like we've well moved on even 30 years ago, the only thing they need to do is get our education back to colonial standards, not remove it and hire people in education good in the fields rather than hire people not to be racist while being racist and leaving out people that are nzers that would be better at teaching these subjects to nzers. Ardern isn't the first person to come up with the lower pass rate idea and it's BS, its literally copying what they've already done. Helen Clarke literally did this already and that's what started this sh1tstorm
Yep, intellectually challenged.
The white man's cross? Yep, just another racist.
Interesting year, yr ignorance on the CIA and US State Department creating the Ukrainian coup in 2014 which ultimately lead to the current Ukraine Russia war was rather sad.
@@shawneyshoeshine 🤔
@@shawneyshoeshine Who's delusional
@@ronnymcdonald2543 shawn doesn't know basic history
@@annatetiad.4991 When it comes to Ukraine he sure does have a massive blind spot and he's not willing to even do some basic research on the subject.
Czerda POPOVIC and his O.T.P.O.R. ...ORANGE ' REVOLUTION ' DESTABILISATION.
Well that was an educational interview lols. Respect? I remember when I was knelt down at my parents combined grave arranging flowers, a member walked right in front of me, and walked across their grave. That's disrespectful, and arrogant!
And Dumb, which is more than likely.
Those in this country that demand respect have no concept of how to get or give any. They don't understand respect is earned and they are well in debt of that in society
Sorry that happened to you
Mongrel MOB is massive . So I wouldn't judge all members or club by what an individual does . See if it's done as a unit or a team. Different story... I think a more seasoned veteran mobster could give you the strongest bark . Me I'm just a guppy in these waters .. happy New year. Out with the old in with the new mindsets.
@@naauaopai unfortunately with what this govt is doing, the mindsets are very old and almost that very similar of nazi like behaviour by dehumanizing certain people in society by referring to people as pakeha, colonial, lying about their contributions, histories and lives and segregating families races and opportunities in healthcare and education. There are a lot of things being done with the maori culture being used that is almost identical to what the Germans did to the european Jewish and gypsies in regards to negative and false propaghanda to normalize abuse and hate towards a white person in NZ which is what the nazis did do to the jewish people. I'm actually amazed by it considering our ancestors died in WW1 and WW2 to get away from these kinds of nasty values and behaviours
Dennis is not the sharpest tool in the shed. And trying to pull the downtrodden card is becoming a broken record.
Sean displayed his ignorance when it comes to NZ history and to basic human rights. The "Mongrel Mob" member had some good points (respect for the dead) and what had happened in history. Denis spoke well and did not take Sean's bullshit. Yes, land was stolen and has still not been returned. It was stolen by the NZ Company and political biggots and some conniving merchants and also some Maori opportunists. Most settlers did not agree with stealing land and participated in buy/sell deals that were fair to both sides. Maori and Pakeha settlers were usually best mates. But then along came some immigrants greedy for a quick buck and used the Maori unfamiliarity with the commercial law and money matters to cheat tribes of land they did not want to sell. I reckon you can put whatever you like on your gravestone. Incidentally, the swastika is also a sanscrit(?) good luck symbol..Oh yes, Sean was really nasty at one point about Mongrel Mob Graves, but Denis kept his cool. Well done Denis. The abuse of young kids I already knew about but this revealed to me the deep-seated rancour felt by the victim. Shocking behaviour by Sean, but respect well earned with me by Denis.
@@CapitalistKiwi 🤮
He needs reminding that his PEOPLE flocked to religion so that is not an abuse argument he should use. It a shame he wasn't more on to it. And the host did himself a huge diservice and was confrontational at ,many times and let himself be drawn in to some mindless drivel.
@@hawkbartril3016 yes, we've all suffered abuse...some more than others.
@@Peter_Pepper_Love 🐓 Head
Never believe stories of past "abuse" from a man who gleefully abuses others.
For the benefit and safety of society I hope his headstone wish becomes reality this week.
Only Sean has the balls to talk to gang members like this.. Imagine if this was RNZ or TVNZ they'd all be nodding in agreement with the poor mobster and apologising for colonisation.
I know paddy gower and Jhon Campbell would 🤣
Umm, he worked for RNZ for years. WTF you talking about? RNZ talks to gang members constantly, they have documentaries going back 40years. You don't actually know what you are talking about right? You've never actually listened to RNZ? Am I correct?
@@brendonross5774 Do you work for them? lol. I used to listen to them all the time until about 2016 until the one sided wokeness was too much to bear. They seem to have it in for anyone who isn't far left like them. I don't mind if people are far left but they can't just control a public broadcasting station like that.
@@red2775 paddi golden shoa be sharing a joint🚬🥴💚
Funny thing is noone descended of colonials would be apologising for simply living somewhere building everything, creating a place that makes millions and yet their ancestors are lied about to the people here for the millions basically turning them into slaves. It's disgusting, if there was a referendum, very little amount of people would want their taxes given away for that, they would want it in their pockets. Giving away money for half truths, not good enough
He sounded like a labour party member, bring on co-governance Not.
I don’t even think they would want him. 99.9 % of Maori wouldn’t share Dennis view point.
I’ll respect their rights when they respect everyone else’s rights
A confused man...
Great work Sean. You have done a great job with the platform.
Amen to that
Dennis....the gospel was invited here by the Maori chiefs....it's well documented by Maori and European....
Yes this is true. Maori adopted Christianity in their droves. They saw and understood the benefits of the gospels. Dennis could have a change of heat and mind if he ever decided to study history.
@@user-rf9ws7hp3e pity more Christians didn't practice what they preach...na too busy deluding themselves with alcohol and kiddy fidlin!
Confrontational bloke imagine how his woman and kids are at reasoned analysis
He is a product of his upbringing, and actually believes the crap that was coming out of his mouth....That's what makes him and those like him such a danger to everything that is good and decent in NZ.
Do you mean the host or the caller ?
Why dont they just start their own cemeteries? Can do what they want then.
Who do you think will be buried in those cemeteries?🙄
@@musicians_with_gunts Easer to find there than in a forestry block.
Shaun alluded to that.
@@johnmartin7158 yeah I commented before the end of the video.
@@kentkendall1698 Lol, I do that regularly.
Merry Xmas Kent.
Quit blaming colonization,you were not here when they turned up,..so how did they ruin your life 180yrs ago 🤔
Nazi swastika?maori history is the maori battalion defending NZ and western civilisation in WW1 .
Like my great great grandfather in trenches, not meth dealing and crime .
The maori battalion wasn't the only force fighting in WW2.
People who ''Blame'' and make ''Excuse's'' will never move on....I say Stop all this ''Bull-shit and let them take ownership of their Anti-Social behavior....or forever be.... ''Oxygen Thieves''....
Not very productive having someone like Denis on the platform. He sounds aggressive.
I guess its good to be truly aware who the herald and jacinda ardern are "helping" every time the herald shows gang patches on all their mongrel mob articles like gang adverts of fresh shiny new vests with now maori translations somehow and our govt is giving them millions of dollars while leaving people literally homeless who have committed no crimes
It's futile trying to reason with people like Dennis. There is no hope for them.
What makes you think he wants your hope your talking about a old man now how would hope help I think you're just talking for the sake of talking your futlie doesn't help this situation there's a whole gang of keyboard warriors in these comments
@@kiriwilliams1084 Woof. woof.
WARRIORS COME OUT AND PLAY
@@lambese4- your woof woof comment means nothing to me Warrior
@@kiriwilliams1084 👈 You sound just like lovely calm "Dennis the Menace". Well balanced because you both have a chip on both shoulders.
The comments from Dennis have no standing in intellectual or historical discourse, not even close.... however, I think that people have the right to memorize themselves as they feel fit...if however it breaches the rights and standards of a place of burial... because others have rights as well....then find a piece of Maori land and bury you and yours there....I don't think the descendants of the Maori battalion would be very accommodating though... just a thought.....
Dennis seems to have not come with a strong argument ?
It sounds like he doesn't respect his ancestors decision to sign the treaty.
Sounds like he's been manipulated again by the powers at be with stories to excuse his behaviour and get him millions for their gain. It was too easy because he's a person that apparently never had love, didn't know where to place blame for his behaviour and someone came along and said it's not your fault your gang, gang raped women ,it was the institutions and it's easier to be brainwashed by institutions. Whether he likes it or not he's being brainwashed by the institutions again
@Kerry Kaea the treaty was designed to give all people equal rights because the tradition of maori is that other people are outsiders and the settlers and their families were being attacked and were very close to leaving because of more aggressive tribes that no one told them about. These settlers were poor labourers, missionaries and workers, a lot from scotland and ireland, very poor people and were put in a situation by both maori and british in charge not telling them what to expect. They were told there was homes etc and they got here after many months travel to find nothing here and they didn't have money to go back and had to somehow survive. It has never been just about maori, that actually doesn't make any sense. Yhe only people creating hate are some people by lying about and generalising people's families into a criminal category, also lying about people's financial circumstances in the govt and segregating people's races and acting as though people don't have a british side and aren't proud of them and aren't allowed to. My part maori cousin only 30 years ago wasn't "maori enough" for help and I wasn't maori so couldn't get an English scholarship in a poor neighbourhood. It would be good if you all woke up, learnt about your actual british families ancestries as to be not led down a path to hate ancestors that were good people. You don't see people going into maraes teaching things as basic as "all maori were cannibals" so they shouldn't be in these schools teaching lies that all colonials were bad and all maori were oppressed because its just not accurate and it's a tactic used by the Germans in nazi times to demoralize a nation. Leaders of a strong nation do not demoralise and lie to its people to incite hate, they empower its nation with unity, peace and strength and without these govts our families had done that on their own and empowered themselves year after year with unity, not supporting hating BS from the govt leaders on 450k a year from our taxes while a lot of nzers can barely afford a home
and the government stipulates that NZ society emulate their culture and language? What a joke.
well thats 9min of my life i will never get back..
Blah blah always victim mentality. Never take any responsibility for your own actions
I just knew it. He's a "victim".
maoris are not the only ones who've had a bad up bringing.
Bikie bangs should be made illegal.
marxist love dividing people, Ardern is one fine example.
New Zealand should be united be it your white, black or brown should be UNITED NOT DIVIDED.
This is what happens when so many people (including most politicians) make these ridiculous, hysterical arguments about colonisation, etc, people like Dennis make use of it for their own purposes, which are often dishonest and antisocial.
Well they, the Government, are trying to divide New Zealand... its quite shocking really and its happening all over the world, not just here. Its as if there is some type of central entity controlling all these governments.When the country is divided its easier to conquer, easier to slip stuff under the radar... Thing is to not give these underhanded scum the time of day and watch and call out everything they do.
@@ryancarper595 I don’t think they are trying to divide us. They’re just so sure their ideology is right that they refuse to see alternatives. This of course results in division.
To many questions for is brain to compute . You did your best to help Sean
He wants to respect tge dead.and be free to put nazzi symbols on head stones....?? He ahould start by respecting the dead and honoring the treaty of Waitangi that his ancestors signed and agreed to. ..if he has a gripe it's with his ancestors that sold him out.not the colonialisers that acquired it....I sold a few cars years ago that are worth triple the sale price now can I go back and try for reimbursement???
Dennis like many others have issues with accountability
No Christmas for Dennis!
Practice what you preach Dennis.
who knew all these years later how much maori actually hated us whites
If you look at NZ history, it was obvious from the start.
Dennis only went to school for his lunch,
More likely to bully other kids lunches!
I was a guest and stayed overnight at Dennis Makalio’s home in Porirua back in 2004. His wife Liz was a sweetheart, the house immaculate, the hospitality exemplary. I had traveled down to Wellington from Rotorua with a founding president of the Mob Hop Roberts along with the Sgt of Arms a chap by the name of Fats. I was trying to get the mob to do a film deal with American film makers. Fascinating group. But I’ve met many groups over my 62 years.
Cool, i might put a cannabis leaf on my headstone.
God help us. Unfortunately, people like Denis walk amongst us!
Dennis, life is what you make it. You need to address your anger. Not blame, blame game. We weren't all born with a silver spoon.
6 million dead
Yes and over 100 million humans too
@@herblee2071 mostly Christians.
the mouth was working but not the ears or brain
WOW. SOME LIVE IN A DREAM WORLD.
We all do!
Do they bloody ever mate
Dennis is childish. When you argue you are supposed to be seeking mutual understanding with the idea of living together. That is the basis of morality; it is a code that makes society function.
The colonisation and land theft claim is founded on:
"..each group of people is fundamental different, and these primordial (`essential') differences constitute the basis for entitlement and engagement." _ Recalling Aotearoa.
It is based on the thought experiment of reversing history and assuming the best possible outcomes.
Apart from that the evidence is that children captured by Indians (and vice versa) hands down preferred the primitive lifestyle (in line with evolutionary psychology).
In a perfect world there wouldn’t be any gangs. Members admit they join for the brotherhood as their own parents didn’t love and nurture them. That said, they also confess they wouldn’t want their own sons to join a gang. Hence, they know it’s wrong.
Dennis knows the swastika is wrong as his argument was based on two wrongs make it right - Europeans colonised , so the mob should also be allowed to do something bad.
When people are burying their loved ones or paying their respects they should not have to see a symbol of hate , genocide, cruelty and murder .
Keep in mind there are plenty of Maori who are anti gangs and swastikas.
True, Full of contradictions and nonsense
Imagine proudly displaying a symbol responsible for the deaths of some 50 million people and the suffering of untold others, less then 100 years ago while complaining about your own "intergenerational trauma" from centuries ago.
That boys home abuse line has been thrashed to death with these mob member's. It's about 30 years to late to bring that crap up.. the system is not prefect but it dose not make people into monster's it trys to help people now days..this is just someone that dose not want to work for a living..simple
MONGREL MOB is history of the governments neglects and abuse. Like brother said . What is right is right and what is wrong . The boiz homes would torture young Maori And do unspeakable thing's. Ask survivors
What are NZ tax dollars funding in Ukraine?
I agree with you Sean.
you wont get this two sides of the fence free speech anywhere else.
Thank you .
Yes, have you paid $156/year in support?👍🏻
Hope the prime minister listened to this message. Great interview to increase police.
how people talk of Jesus loves u but yet none one has seen met or even talked to Jesus face to face that talks of him today so obviously the whole Christian thing was used to contempt an colonized people. I grew up going to church i gave prey about 3 times a day everyday asking for help an guidience but yet I was still abused in many evil ways an none of the abusers were gang members obviously Jesus didn't hear me or love me jus a vulnerable little boy at the end of that life I turned out a gang member I hated society after I figured out what this world was all about power an controll rape pillage an plunder so repect to the brother Dennis I salute u
Sean < I get this guy as someone that went through the state care system in the late 70s / 80s as I hated all of society once I got out as the public didn't do shit to save us from the harms we had to face alone as a kid and where's our payout for them harms faced... Now it's taken 35yrs to overcome some of those demons & sadly can't say I'm finished repairing myself as I'm not as I still have a couple of Demons from that time that just won't let me be... Now the only reason I didn't join a gang was I promised someone I loved I would never do that and kept my word to them even after they passed... Shit just in my spelling you should be able to see the screwed-up education I got as I got thrown around 22 different schools over 10 yrs and got taught this same shit by four schools and got trapped in this dumb ass boot loop which screwed up the rest of my schooling... The only reason I can even spell is thanks to the old Nokia brink phone as texting back then taught me how to spell to an ok level... We don't normally talk about this shit as it brings up old demons and Sean I just want to keep moving forward... Why do think I have been so loud about the Vax Sean I saw the same pattern as I did in care and knew in my gut this wasn't going to end well for the country & its people... Now I didn't do this for all of NZ, I did it for those who did step up for me as a kid back then and they know they have my love & my respect to the day my heart stops pumping... If I went into detail on what I had to face as a kid you would be wounding how I've not chewed on the barrel of a shotgun yet trust me on that statement... Said too much an NZ don't be assholes as at the end of the day our life force is the same color... Can we just have a no-bullshit Christmas & New Year Please as I feel the complete country needs the break... With love NZ
In the first instance it was a failure of the family, extended family and for maori their iwi that resulted in young people ending up in state care which is not a good place to expect love and nurture. Blaming colonisation is a stretch.
Stand strong brother . Nice words
Well said Ricky. Bob. 82yo. Veteran.
👏 Well said brother and also Well Done for choosing your own path. ✌️
Happy holidays bro love you!
‘Why shouldn’t we’ haha master debater right there.
I'm disappointed by this interview. A lost opportunity to have a civil conversation that might have helped integrate gang members back into society. I think Dennis was right to not want to be put on trial in the beginning. I disagree with Dennis. Especially re Christianity. French Catholics learned Maori on the way to NZ. They published books in Maori. And Maori spread the gospel faster than Pakeha could. Sean's points were right and if delivered with charity this could have been a transformative dialogue. If only he believed that brilliant statement of faith. Great defending of the Cross Sean 😊
You're making the assumption that it's so easy to have a civilized conversation with this person. They literally said white man stole land and so many other things many nzers have to hear from racists and I do feel only people truly from these areas, from these families and people who grew up around them understand what situation we are actually dealing with and he dealt with it pretty well
Interesting interview. So totally on a different page as the majority of the population.
Well its a gang, they indoctrinate their members they keep telling themselves those stories to justify their criminal acts
@@andreatodd3095 good on him for coming on though.
Sean engaging in a battle of wits with somebody who turned up unarmed.
He seemed pretty armed with the same techniques as our govts, repeating sh1t other people say without thinking anything through
Deep deep trauma from
The caller. Can’t deny what happened to these boys in those homes. Let’s not go there. But being in your 50’s and stuck in violence and projecting it on innocent people. Sad sad sad.
Thanks for coming on Dennis
The attitude on Dennis...
A challenge Sean fails to meet constructively.
Merry Christmas you and your team speak for us kiwis
The neo nazi kiwis lmafo.
A credit to his people,a shining example of Maori culture.
My thanks to Dennis….not his real name,and my thanks to the United Nations.
😂
Put a swastika on your headstone in a public cemetery and see how well it's received. And by the way, headstones ARE NOT Maori traditionally any way so Dennis is actually a hypocrite.
@@sirgus8727 Dennis is a menace
We need more point if views from regular Maori and public officials and board member's bot from a disrespectful entitled mate 👑
The maori voice booms over all others in New Zealand.
Very good just remember this is about people that have passed
Wot a derp..bless your patience for even trying to talk
this guy just said maori was keen to learn english to get ahead in life not even my nan and father was beaten if they talked maori when they was growing up
You said it mate he's fighting for his human rights .....
Stephen Brennan. Rubbish mate. He's just full of anger and hate which is his choice. He already has human rights.
@@sirgus8727 does the king know your impersonating a knight?
When it is enough! Well done Sean!
Well that escalated quickly
From growing up in south auckland, this is pretty normal behaviour for someone like this mongrel mob guy, nothing is their fault and everything is everyone else's fault
Have a good Christmas!!! Haha😂
He's got some punctuation going on there!
Ah hell of a lot of countries were colonized, and most countries and people have moved on.
Can't keep blaming others for your failures.
Dennis needs to buy himself a mirror.
Have a gig in it he'll see all his problems.
Sean, You are not going to get through to him.
That is patently obvious. You’re correct.
Absolutely it's not only to Honor the individual. It's deeper than that I'm a fresh member . From HAWAITI
This seems staged. Very much doubt the caller is actually MM.
What about the grave=stones in PN city
Don't think Hitler would be impressed with the mongys.
I wounder if he is 100% Moari????
There are rules as to what is acceptable and applies to 3veron3
Tauiwi, non Tangata whenua are colonialist. Sean supports oir corrupt criminal govt system in Aotearoa New Zealand. Kia kaha Denis.
Well Dennis has a point to a degree . He doesn’t articulate well but he has a point . Sean is indoctrinated into the system , thinks mongrel mob insignia is offensive etc but to my mind being offended is a choice . I see mongrel mob crap and I’m not intimidated or offended I just see people choosing a different path . The mob needs to clean its act up for sure , stop the drugs and dealing and crime against good people etc but there are criminals in parliament and councils heaping misery on good people also and we as a society seem to think that’s ok . If you stopped in the street and talked to a mob member on his own sometimes they are just battling their way through life the same as the rest of us .
The swastika is frequently used as a sign of wealth and good fortune in both the ancient and contemporary worlds. The term comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means "conducive to well-being." It was a popular emblem on Mesopotamian coins.
The term S&&G F*****N H&&L wasnt though and thats what these gang members want to put on headstones.
Yes except we all know that the mob uses the form of it adopted bye Hitler....I think you know to,bright spark that you appear to be.
In NZ due to our connections to hitler it has a different meaning like many other symbols. It's like a wolf in sheep's clothing. If the symbol is just about wealth and good fortune, it is not being used for the wealth and good fortune for others because they have literally gang raped and hurt people and destroyed kids lives for generations and whatever symbol they stamp on it its no different than hitler using it and manipulating people. It's like the hypocrisy of the "united nations" literally dividing people and causing chaos everywhere they go.
That's correct, it's the choice of intent that matters most.
It represents what they mean it to...they would be soap if Hitler and his swastika mates won...simple
What an arrogant radio host
Led light swastika would be easier wouldn't it
Dennis if you read this I'm so very sorry about the abuse you suffered,As a freedom lover I agree with you with your grave stone's its your thing and Free speech is just that! As a Christian I want you to know that Jesus loves you as much as he loves me, And as a kiwi I just want us all to live in peace alongside One another that's all I want .
He wants respect for his dead but this shows no respect for the millions of jews gassed under a racist nazi regime that many nzers died fighting in these wars. For someone who has been abused by a system you shouldn't be just going along with another symbol that abused others. It's shows massive ignorance considering this is a group of people that were gang raping women and abusing people. My father, Irish catholic that received the same abuse don't create hate towards an entire skin colour of people and have not created gangs like this. My father was asked to join these gangs and because he's a good person and actually experienced pain, he would never wish that pain on others, join a gang to inflict pain on others and then blame other people for their disgusting actions. A lot of us from these areas freed ourselves from group like mentalities in religiona because of the risk of being abused by superiors but they basically copied them and made their own abusive institutions where they could also prey on the weak.
@@elizabethbradley4301 I am trying to be as fair as possible that's all 💕 If you Knew what I have personally been through you would be blown away I'm being so fair,I've come to the conclusion they are hurt and only love can heal all hurt,My brother was almost Murdered & it terrorized me but I have no fear now just empathy,It can't be nice living a life being angry with everyone,If we show them fairness they may just leave normal society alone,We have no choice but to live Side by side its not like the police are on our side nowadays is It 😢
@@Theresa-td8yk that sounds absolutely traumatizing, i appreciate you sharing your story. In saying that, this is why we actively can't encourage feeling sorry for people who are hurting people unless they have actually shown that they aren't doing these things anymore and quitely sit in jail with guilt or quietly live a normal life not hurting people. But they are still doing them and doing bad things with a media circus encouraging them. They are using an experience which many others have had and adding racism and ignoring others pain while creating racism for them as well as an excuse to cause pain to others. The thing is the more we sit back and just feel sorry for people who are violent then the more we will become the people on the recieving end of this as more people with violent tendencies see that they can get away with it. My father had such an abusive irish catholic upbringing and he literally went to the same school and grew up with the mongrel mob leaders and made hangis and irish stews together and here they are berating white people like it has no meaning, they were kids together and friends at school, so I have a real understanding of some of the origins. My father would tell me stories of having to get these people off of women when they went out before they even started the mob. Some people are just entitled with other people's lives and have no empathy. My father was so respected by them because he was scary in his own right because he alone stopped many of them hurting people, they asked him to join the gang and he flat our refused because there was no way he was going to be a part of something so sick. Over time when my dad had moved on and grown up and had a family and wanted normality, these mongrel mobs guys choice was to create this gang and come together and literally gang raped women and killed people, its not a myth, it was real, I can't feel sorry for this. He told me these stories to ensure I stayed well away from them, you'd see it on the news, they are not the people you might be imagining they are because our news is always trying to make us feel sorry for the pricks and are creating hate for good people which is actually some of the first steps into communism. We need to be really careful as to who we feel sorry for and no anger is involved in my words, its purely caution and reason. The more they berate institutions and white people, they are targeting nzers and their families including mixed families if british and maori, which is a large part of society which does protect us mostly and when it hasnt, its hurt everyone, and its usually a culture thats being abused for control and hate, not the entire institution. Right now I honestly think they are abusing the maori culture and are dangerously associating it with jacinda and her leadership. With less respect for institutions and nzers, you have less respect for nz police which are the institutions and the police officers that may be white in them trying to protect us in amongst everyone else as they are berating colonials who are mostly good people. I have been robbed so many times since this govt got people in power saying white people were rich and oppressed maori and as you can tell from my story, we were quite poor and from abusive homes. This is not the institutions fault, this is the people currently in positions of power disrespecting their power and the people for their own personal goals. They have been lying and twisting so much about NZers stories and societies to give away all our money to people like this while making people homeless who were good people for not taking injections as if they are the criminals and they have abused and lied about all our cultures to create most the hate filled ideas and make all nzers question everything. Nzers unities are very special between british and maori and so many people are blindly disrespecting them because the tv is telling them to just like everything else the tv is telling them like it's OK to give the mongrel mob 2.4 million dollars of oir money to self rehabilitate instead of that money helping all nzers with drugs. It's a Neverending con and people need to think about things realistically so we can get some semblance of community, respect and normality back.
@@elizabethbradley4301 Awesomely well put.
Naive in the extreme.
Solid korero rogue
End of the day . None of the Mongrel MOB doesn't deal drugs. Get your facts straight.. and individual or individuals maybe but they don't speak for the mob. The mob have been doing great things in the community for a very very long time. Apart from the bad you can't control every single one either... Merry Christmas.. to you mbrotha 😎. Maybe chill a bit .
You’re either a liar, or a gullible fool.
Your comment aged terribly lol, and helping other gangs members out isn't "good things for the community.
@@mjanny6330 as an ex member I'm still going to hold strong Ng to my belief that the Mongrel MOB can. And have the potential to do great and wonderful things for the community along with they're whanau and ohana..
Violence is all around us. Some just take comfort in pointing the finger and having a name to blame.
Every single person has they're own story. Of they're upbringing good or bad. This or that. Condemning the masses and giving everyone a label is wrong. I'm not saying the mob aren't up to no good. Because as cooey east says. I know individuals that do wrong. But not everyone. You have the good. And the bad.. learn to deal with it
Only god can judge not motrals on earth, if he wants it why not
Cool I want a capaitn cook statue holding a clutch of dead Mari baby's on my grave.and why not?
God agrees ☝🏼😏💨🤍
Another one who doesn’t understand what is meant by the judgment of God.
@@antonmiles8167 anton smiles☝🏻😏"God doesn't care for he well knows that all eventually return to the fullness of truth about themSELF Source Essential Life Force"💨🤍
Though it may take another lifetime or 1000
@@Peter_Pepper_Love what god are you talking about?
We all must understand mobsters were made bad by colonialism, and succumb meekly to their villainy and vice. Hugs and free money will sort them out.
I wonder how many of the grunting sieg heilers would have signed on for the SS, as traitors to their own whanau who fought in the Māori battalion?
I believe people should be allowed to put whatever they want on their grave stones.
@ Matthew Dower. Well how about you put a box of gold on yours. I'll be waiting.
Great interview.
Here's a thing regards nazis,,,a resolution was tabled at the United Nations late November,to ban the glorification of nazism,,,105 countries voted in support,,,15 or so abstained,,,the rest voted against the resolution,,,we voted against,,,im surprised the Platform didn't pick up on it
Rommel be turning in his gravy 🖖🏻🧐💛
@@Peter_Pepper_Love going by the recent chatter,so would Churchill
Ukrainian?
This is such BS they moan about the living wearing patches now there moaning about the dead and we are talking about a cemetery where people have to pay for there hole they should be able to do what ever they please with there hole GET OVER IT
Nothing like a bit of unhealthy divide and conquer aggression to start the holiday season with.
It didn't take much to set this firecracker off.
Wouldn't want to be the person he takes his rage out on after this.