While the recent Disney movies have been good with animation, visuals and characters the problem is there's been many small story flaws that even we Disney fans have noticed. From Wreck it Ralph 2 to Toy Story 4. Amazing topic to bring up.
Tyler, your are the next John Truby my friend. Ive found myself learning so much from your videos, to be honest even more then any John Truby or Robert McKee videos. Please keep up the good work and I look forward to watching your movies in the future. Ps. Toy Story is like the ultimate writers guide to learning screenwriting and I love you chose it for your video
@@anthonysiebenmorgen7216 Always happy to share great things and I do believe The Story Grid Is quite awesome. There's the book, the website and specially the podcast, so don't miss any of those. Good luck!
Thank you so much not only for this intelligent video, but also for pointing out how extremely well-written the first "Toy Story" film is. It's my favorite animated movie of all time (2nd favorite movie overall), and I get so tired of the only compliments of it being "nostalgia" and "childhood memories" and "the one that started it all" while simultaneously mocking the early animation style and praising how much better the sequels are. As if to say that if this movie hadn't kicked off the rest of the franchise, then it wouldn't even be worth remembering / discussing / or rewatching. That is such bullshit. It's a brilliant comedy and a great story, with plenty of touching moments, and with what I've always called one of the tightest scripts ever written. It's rare I see anyone else agree on how perfect the script is, and it's much appreciated.
I had an obsurd ideaa, but i would love to see your case study on toy story, a full breakdown, hope u will have interest and time for that ! still love your channel!
For me problems are in the third act or final ending. For example, boy meets girl and... how to end this with mindblowing five oscar value worth ending? With the same effect like those falling skyscrappers in the The Fight Club (don't talk about it - thats against the rules).
What do each of those characters want and what’s the greatest sacrifice they could possibly make to get it? If you have two characters ending up together by the end, and the ending is supposed to be huge in scale, what do they each have to overcome in order to be together and what physical external thing can be dealt with to symbolize it? Attack the characters’ flaws. Make those flaws part of the plot they need to battle physically within the story.
@@farzeen2085 Only if the other characters that we care about learn or gain or lose something from the character's death. Just killing the character to be subversive is not nearly as cool or original as it sounds. There has to be a very specific reason that makes the overall story more emotionally impactful.
Wow. When you named the normal problems of writing a second act I inmediately made the skeleton of a plan to fix them and it was just what you said. I mean, not exactly, but something is something. I've learned things today.
Very well done video. Conscise and easy to follow. I appreciate You Tubers who don't include a lot of distracting mannerisms in their speaking. The text inserts make it easy to pause the video and take notes. Thanks!
This series is the best series on screenwriting I found on TH-cam. I don't usually watch videos a few times but I went through the Guide to Screenwriting twice. Kudos and thank you.
Hey, thank you, I really appreciate your Videos, I even googled how to spell "appreciate" correctly for this comment. One thing though, maybe that's a european thing, or even a german one, but since I hope you have some of us among your viewers, I'm quite used to think in a 5 act system, maybe you could make clear that you work on 3 acts, to avoid some confusion. Just a detail, thanks again.
Tell me how the 'point of no return' structure applies to the Oscar winning movie (and deserving so) "SPOTLIGHT". At the exact midpoint of the movie (the middle of the second act) they decide to do a reverse look-up of the church's records of Boston Priests. I'm not sure if the 'point of no return' structure was ever applied to this movie except to when the editors decided to release the results of their investigation. Structure is important, but it can't help a bad story.
yeah the story and ending are the easy part the hard part is the idea. Writing a story is like knocking over dominos. This happened because this happened because this happened because this happened because this happened. And with each because this happened the situation should escalate and get worse.
He outlined a narratively perfect movie and explained rising action in simple, digestible terms and you're complaining that isn't good enough? Good lord, I'd hate to cook you dinner.
My problem is that the ideas for the tale take about five hours and I'm tryin to make a movin picture under two hours. I'm such a good writer already (thanks to God), that I'm afraid that learnin more is goin to make me to overthink rather than to flow. But I always begin by sayin to God, "Please, YOU write this through me". One thing that I appreciate is that act 1 of this series did not cause any peril of overthinkin, though I alredy instinctively do some of what was taught therein.
Per Jung, rings betoken our self. Givin ring to Mordor is givin self to devil. Tolkein would have known this and constructed the plot with deliberate malice of intent (from our point of viewin).
Why do I hate almost all last acts, or second-halves, created by corporate entertainment? Also, 3 is not so good a number as 4, so I am wonderin whether a fourth act might have merit, and how the plot would be divided. {later} Oic that fourth act structure has been much taught. Shakespeare's lines are deliberately in pentameter because the Baconian faction was satanist in secret. Tetrameter would have been beneficial to the Divine Plan, and octameter even better.
No. I admire both, and they each have very narrow subjects to teach, but that's about it, lessons from the screenplay lets you soak in information, Tyler just gives a helpful shopping list. Both effective methods.
"Some mistakes I see..." Okaaay. WTF have you written? This is a little like a non-live musician posting tabs online. Those of us with optioned material and active projects don't want advice from a nasal man-child.
I don't get this. You recognise a on issue with your work and THEN you think of a solution. These are separate skills. You should know you can have one without the other because everyone does at some point of the creative process at least
I'm sure someone with 'optioned material' has much more important things to do with their time than criticise and belittle others [or watch YT videos on writing]. But thanks anyway for stopping by and dispensing such powerful wisdom. Everyone is eternally grateful to hear what is and isn't worthy of you.
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While the recent Disney movies have been good with animation, visuals and characters the problem is there's been many small story flaws that even we Disney fans have noticed. From Wreck it Ralph 2 to Toy Story 4. Amazing topic to bring up.
It's because they erase the themes of the originals in an attempt to be "nuanced"
Tyler, your are the next John Truby my friend. Ive found myself learning so much from your videos, to be honest even more then any John Truby or Robert McKee videos. Please keep up the good work and I look forward to watching your movies in the future. Ps. Toy Story is like the ultimate writers guide to learning screenwriting and I love you chose it for your video
Glad you’re learning from the videos!
Is it me or you know about The Story Grid? If not, you should check it, you'll love it. Everything you say clicks. Keep it up
Haven’t heard of it. I’ll take a look!
I just looked into the Story Grid. Thanks for sharing, its pretty awesome! Will definitely be using that
@@TylerMowery Oh, boy. You're in for a treat. :)
@@anthonysiebenmorgen7216 Always happy to share great things and I do believe The Story Grid Is quite awesome. There's the book, the website and specially the podcast, so don't miss any of those. Good luck!
@@Maggoz777 You ever heard of Dramatica Pro? I love the Grand Argument theory?
Thank you so much not only for this intelligent video, but also for pointing out how extremely well-written the first "Toy Story" film is. It's my favorite animated movie of all time (2nd favorite movie overall), and I get so tired of the only compliments of it being "nostalgia" and "childhood memories" and "the one that started it all" while simultaneously mocking the early animation style and praising how much better the sequels are. As if to say that if this movie hadn't kicked off the rest of the franchise, then it wouldn't even be worth remembering / discussing / or rewatching. That is such bullshit. It's a brilliant comedy and a great story, with plenty of touching moments, and with what I've always called one of the tightest scripts ever written. It's rare I see anyone else agree on how perfect the script is, and it's much appreciated.
very helpful! I was facing this problem myself but now I understand how to progress my story better!
Glad to hear it!
Sounds like most Disney in general at the moment
Love your videos, man. I’m more into writing novels, but your videos are better than the ones that focus on writing novels. Keep up the great work!
I had an obsurd ideaa, but i would love to see your case study on toy story, a full breakdown, hope u will have interest and time for that ! still love your channel!
Thanks for the suggestion!
please, that would be amazing!
For me problems are in the third act or final ending. For example, boy meets girl and... how to end this with mindblowing five oscar value worth ending? With the same effect like those falling skyscrappers in the The Fight Club (don't talk about it - thats against the rules).
What do each of those characters want and what’s the greatest sacrifice they could possibly make to get it? If you have two characters ending up together by the end, and the ending is supposed to be huge in scale, what do they each have to overcome in order to be together and what physical external thing can be dealt with to symbolize it? Attack the characters’ flaws. Make those flaws part of the plot they need to battle physically within the story.
Third act video coming next!
Is it a good idea to kill a main character? That's the twist in my story, that I'm writing.
@@farzeen2085 Only if the other characters that we care about learn or gain or lose something from the character's death. Just killing the character to be subversive is not nearly as cool or original as it sounds. There has to be a very specific reason that makes the overall story more emotionally impactful.
Wow. When you named the normal problems of writing a second act I inmediately made the skeleton of a plan to fix them and it was just what you said. I mean, not exactly, but something is something. I've learned things today.
Very well done video. Conscise and easy to follow. I appreciate You Tubers who don't include a lot of distracting mannerisms in their speaking. The text inserts make it easy to pause the video and take notes. Thanks!
I love this series Tyler it's so helpful. Well done again! :)
Glad to hear it!
Yes! Thanks for this! very insightful
Even Pixar won't break down their stories this thoroughly. Thanks.
Great Video. Will you be making a video for a Act Three?
Decided to start writing my first story and this series is particularly helpful!
Thank you so much, Tyler! Your channel really is amazing and has helped me so much
Tyler's videos always deliver
You are really the master of the craft man... your points are amazing...
Lol. Sorry, every time I hear Tom hanks as woody say “light snack”, it cracks me up every time.
Tyler you are the motherf#%
Where's your Act 3 video. That's where I'm stuck lol
It's called "how to write a great ending"
Hey, I'm trying to figure out if I have time to take your course but I have no idea how many hours it is.
In total it’s about 8 hours long. I purposely made it packed with value but short enough to get through pretty quickly.
It's a tough matter to write excellent but not impossible. ..impossible itself says "I m possible "!!!!😊😊
This series is the best series on screenwriting I found on TH-cam. I don't usually watch videos a few times but I went through the Guide to Screenwriting twice. Kudos and thank you.
great channel.
do you let viewers bounce ideas off you?
s/o from South Africa
I do! Check out the Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/644895109269258/ or message me on Facebook!
iim really tankful for all ur advices in all ur videos
I never noticed the Binford Tool Box in Toy Story till now.
Thanks man very helpful 🤘
This video made me want to watch toy story again... like a lot
Man you are so helpful
Hey, thank you, I really appreciate your Videos, I even googled how to spell "appreciate" correctly for this comment. One thing though, maybe that's a european thing, or even a german one, but since I hope you have some of us among your viewers, I'm quite used to think in a 5 act system, maybe you could make clear that you work on 3 acts, to avoid some confusion. Just a detail, thanks again.
Tell me how the 'point of no return' structure applies to the Oscar winning movie (and deserving so) "SPOTLIGHT". At the exact midpoint of the movie (the middle of the second act) they decide to do a reverse look-up of the church's records of Boston Priests. I'm not sure if the 'point of no return' structure was ever applied to this movie except to when the editors decided to release the results of their investigation. Structure is important, but it can't help a bad story.
Is it a problem that the focus shifts, gradually?
cool thank's
Disney is the best example for this :)
Can each act build the motivation for a character to change?
Yes
yeah the story and ending are the easy part the hard part is the idea. Writing a story is like knocking over dominos. This happened because this happened because this happened because this happened because this happened. And with each because this happened the situation should escalate and get worse.
Do these principles apply to the first act?
Nice✨💯
❤❤❤❤
Juju J.
Dude, how about a spoiler alert for Toy Story next time! Jeeze.
Seriously
Dont get me wrong.. I love this channel.. but have this dude ever written a script? That's been mad into a movie to charge 150$???
and Act 3? 🙏🏻😭😭
These aren't common mistakes. You don't even list a mistake. You just make a video about ONE thing writers SHOULD do.
He outlined a narratively perfect movie and explained rising action in simple, digestible terms and you're complaining that isn't good enough? Good lord, I'd hate to cook you dinner.
I wanna give up, writings so hard
I would stop you, but only you can change that. I agree, writing is hard but I still like it anyways. If you got tired of it, then it's ok.
My problem is that the ideas for the tale take about five hours and I'm tryin to make a movin picture under two hours. I'm such a good writer already (thanks to God), that I'm afraid that learnin more is goin to make me to overthink rather than to flow. But I always begin by sayin to God, "Please, YOU write this through me".
One thing that I appreciate is that act 1 of this series did not cause any peril of overthinkin, though I alredy instinctively do some of what was taught therein.
Per Jung, rings betoken our self. Givin ring to Mordor is givin self to devil. Tolkein would have known this and constructed the plot with deliberate malice of intent (from our point of viewin).
Lord of the Ring is a BAD BAD BAD example
Why do I hate almost all last acts, or second-halves, created by corporate entertainment?
Also, 3 is not so good a number as 4, so I am wonderin whether a fourth act might have merit, and how the plot would be divided. {later} Oic that fourth act structure has been much taught.
Shakespeare's lines are deliberately in pentameter because the Baconian faction was satanist in secret. Tetrameter would have been beneficial to the Divine Plan, and octameter even better.
Nani?! Why this dude so gorgeous
Your course is expensive, man
A Lessons from the screenplay rip off?
No. I admire both, and they each have very narrow subjects to teach, but that's about it, lessons from the screenplay lets you soak in information, Tyler just gives a helpful shopping list. Both effective methods.
"Some mistakes I see..." Okaaay. WTF have you written? This is a little like a non-live musician posting tabs online. Those of us with optioned material and active projects don't want advice from a nasal man-child.
Then don’t take it? No one asked you to watch?
I don't get this. You recognise a on issue with your work and THEN you think of a solution. These are separate skills. You should know you can have one without the other because everyone does at some point of the creative process at least
I'm sure someone with 'optioned material' has much more important things to do with their time than criticise and belittle others [or watch YT videos on writing]. But thanks anyway for stopping by and dispensing such powerful wisdom. Everyone is eternally grateful to hear what is and isn't worthy of you.
Damn man. Shut up
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