Ocon Has Made it Impossible for Alpine to Keep Him

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  • @Aldas001
    @Aldas001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +238

    Don't you just love it when 5 different people have the same video idea as you and upload it earlier🤣 hope you still enjoy my 2 cents on the Ocon Alpine situation

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Don’t worry. Most of us know you’re one of thee F1 pundits who doesn’t just do what everyone else does or jump on the trendiest, most obvious topics.

    • @MMAli-rq8kd
      @MMAli-rq8kd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm going through 6 videos, but your take is spot on. I heard of Ocon's penalty and the threat of consequences before seeing the incident. My first thought was the penalty is totally bogus and the team will be unfairly overreacting to bench him for this.
      Alpine is completely unable to Manage the drivers (Alonso, Piastri, Ocon) and the car development.

    • @BPBomber
      @BPBomber 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Aldas, I truly enjoy listening to your thoughts and insights so much more than the big name channels. You are open-minded and often offer reflection on events from more than one perspective. Even if I have a differing opinion, I always think your points are well-made.

    • @Formula1byVini
      @Formula1byVini 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You did really well putting your perspective, not only going with the trend. Nice job mate.

    • @LK959
      @LK959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Mate where on gods green Earth was gasly supposed to go in the incident? Directly into the barrier? This is the worst take and all the content creators I know have nothing to really talk about leading into the Canadian GP but misinforming your audience on proper racing etiquette is not it. Gasly was literally hugging the outside limits and ocon had space inside (space inside that gasly didn't have cuz ya know there's an Ocon there) for one and the move was pretty unlikely to pan-out from the start which SHOULD be part of your thought process, so yes it's 100000% on Ocon and the racing stewards punished him according to racing rules. I agree they fumbled the kmag thing but that doesn't mean Ocon's incident wasn't a penalty. Ocon's narcissistic behavior was just a qwerk at first but now it's becoming a hazard to other drivers on grid. He put his interest ahead of his TEAMMATES safety and that's just not excusable.

  • @jeremysiegelman9131
    @jeremysiegelman9131 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +716

    ocon having that corner is a blazing hot take- gasly can’t disappear

    • @MMAli-rq8kd
      @MMAli-rq8kd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Giving him a penalty for a clean pass followed by squeezing the other car while letting Magnison off the hook in a lap one incident is very suspicious.

    • @zachbishop5421
      @zachbishop5421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Fr lol like I guess just using the other car as a brake and bowling ball your way up the inside gives u the corner 😂

    • @Joshua_B6
      @Joshua_B6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      ​@@MMAli-rq8kdyou can't really squeeze someone at Monaco, there's no where to go

    • @MaddMan621
      @MaddMan621 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Exactly. He tried comparing it to other races; this is Monaco, he cant just go off track and concede the position because there are barriers

    • @maxholmgren7936
      @maxholmgren7936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      agreed and if Aldas inferred that Gasly could have or should have braked/slowed down, that could have way more disastrous consequences on an opening lap than this incident

  • @djmaciiiii
    @djmaciiiii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +322

    When Ocon had his front wheels ahead of Gasly, where was Gasly supposed to go? He was against the wall already.

    • @harshhapani7230
      @harshhapani7230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      There is thing called brakes in the car which gasly could've used

    • @Phantom-mg5cg
      @Phantom-mg5cg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@harshhapani7230 And drive straight into the wall? A tire has just a limited amount of grip.

    • @harshhapani7230
      @harshhapani7230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Phantom-mg5cg he probably could have used the grip he had for acceleration into braking to slow down

    • @ps3beatswii
      @ps3beatswii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      ​@harshhapani7230 If he did that, another car would've gone right up his ass, potentially resulting in a different crash.

    • @cdd449
      @cdd449 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@harshhapani7230 that sequence when Gasly sees Ocon occurred in less than half a second. Even if you break it down frame by frame, if he uses his breaks his front right tire is not in front of Ocons back left and he has no where left to go. He can't avoid a collision in any scenario at that point.

  • @mintyone
    @mintyone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +249

    I see your point but where was Gasly suppose to go? In the example given between the Redbull and Haas there was somewhere for the Hass to escape to. Gasly's only option was to hit the wall or not to hit the wall which would have compromised his race. It was implied whoever was the lead car had priority and the second car was basically going to act as a buffer. Not sure what Ocon was thinking but they would have both looked good if they had both brought in points for the team. Gasly got squeezed hard by Ocon for no reason end of story. Ocon had nothing to prove other than his pride. Alpine/Renault as an org that needs a complete reset or bought our right by a better ran organization. Their leadership just plain sucks.

    • @hakkinenfan92
      @hakkinenfan92 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gasly could’ve breaked.

    • @xXGhosttrolledXx
      @xXGhosttrolledXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Finally! someone saying what I've been saying!!!

    • @mintyone
      @mintyone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@hakkinenfan92 I agree, but Gasly had priority. If he had braked he would have pretty much come in last.

    • @knivess3
      @knivess3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@mintyoneplus ocon lost part control of the car before contact. If gasly breaks and makes way for other cars whilst ocon losing control of the car would’ve made the situation even worse. Both probably would’ve lost positions if no red car.

    • @harshhapani7230
      @harshhapani7230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is a thing called brakes on the car

  • @kevinolmedo675
    @kevinolmedo675 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +592

    Ocon is not a good teammate, period. He races against his teammates harder than he does against other teams, ridiculuous.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      The amount of times Ocon has put 100% of his focus on blocking or beating a teammate even if it costs him and the team over all is easily beyond a dozen.
      Ironically, Gasly is also a very petulant and immature driver who is terrible at being part of a team.

    • @MMAli-rq8kd
      @MMAli-rq8kd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Gasly is also reckless. This pairing is especially incompatible from the boss who lost Alonso and Piastri. It's Alpine's fault.

    • @slap_k_man1862
      @slap_k_man1862 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Tell Esteban to defend like a lion hood ham up for like one corner see a teammate launch’s them defends them like it’s for a wdc

    • @toeknee5464
      @toeknee5464 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Esty bestie

    • @alexlacl8730
      @alexlacl8730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Another Alonso fan crying about Ocon

  • @eddieredmann3
    @eddieredmann3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    "When you're beaten, you just have to wash out."
    Wash out where? Into the wall? Ocon put Gasly into a situation where the latter couldn't win. You can't brake under steering without risking a lock-up, and he couldn't go off the track because then he'd be in the wall.

    • @billhoult3262
      @billhoult3262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TBF Gasly accelerates out of the apex as if Ocon is gonna leave him space. He's not slowing down between apex and collision, he's speeding up.

    • @eddieredmann3
      @eddieredmann3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@billhoult3262 Gasly accelerated because:
      1) That's typically what drivers do coming out of the apex of a slow corner onto a significant straight.
      2) See my point about braking while turning and locking-up.
      3) To quote the immortal Fernando Alonso, "ok, he pushed me off the track. I think you have to leave a space! *ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE!*"
      4) They're teammates, and Bruno Famin explicitly told Ocon not to do that sort of thing.
      5) Gasly expected Ocon to use at least one braincell to realize that move wasn't going to work.
      So there's no "fairness" to afford to Ocon on that point.

    • @billhoult3262
      @billhoult3262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddieredmann3
      1) If he doesn't accelerate as hard then he doesn't crash, he was lucky it was Ocon who DNFed and not him/both. Not crashing is more important than optimum speed, especially in Monaco.
      2) You don't lock up from not accelerating.
      3) The rules are that if the overtaking driver has the front axle ahead at the apex (Ocon did) and can successfully navigate the corner (Ocon did) then the other driver has to yield. AFAIK there aren't extra rules for Monaco that change this.
      4) It's Ocon, teammates doesn't matter
      5) Gasly saw Ocon went for the move, and still chose to stick it around the outside hoping it would work.
      If Gasly just slows and files in behind Ocon, he'll maybe get a 30mph nudge from Stroll and he can let Ocon have position and yell at him on the radio.
      If Gasly exits the corner like normal, hoping to find space round the outside of Ocon, then one or both of his team DNFs.

    • @eddieredmann3
      @eddieredmann3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@billhoult3262
      1) Patently false. If you have functioning eyeballs you will see that.
      2) Not accelerating would still put him in harms way. He needed to actively brake to avoid Ocon, which *would* put him at risk of a lock-up.
      3) I'm sure there are several examples (LeClerc and Checo's tangle in Mexico City last year, for example) where you would disagree with that assertion. And even if you're completely honest about this, it's still a dumb as shit rule.
      4) Maybe teammates don't matter, but his seat surely does.
      5) What are you talking about? No he didn't? Not until it was too late anyway.

    • @1989SupraGuyFIN
      @1989SupraGuyFIN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddieredmann3 Not to mention, that whole thing happened so fast, that Gasly literally didn't have any time to react to Ocon just yeeting himself from out of nowhere (from Gasly's POV). There's literally nothing Gasly could of done to avoid that. Ocon, however? He could of just... not lunge in there, like a braindead idiot.

  • @jimkeane
    @jimkeane 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    I just don’t think Gasly has time to react to Ocon’s lunge, and he also wouldn’t have expected it from his teammate so he wouldn’t be anticipating it knowing Ocon was behind him - enjoyed the video nonetheless!

    • @NexuJin
      @NexuJin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I recon Pierre was just astonished that Ocon would try that move that goes in against the instructions they were given.

  • @13Xerro
    @13Xerro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    The problem with Ocons overtake is he hasn’t left any room on corner exit. Gasly had already tightened the corner to cover and dissuade Ocon from making a lunge, yet Ocon still went for the gap anyway. Like what can Gasly do here? If he slows Ocon’s rear wheel clobbers his front, he moves left he’s going into the wall. There’s nothing for him to do, Ocon needed to hold a tighter line and ensure space was left on the exit, but really against his teammate he should never have gone for that move.

  • @priestmarmore6750
    @priestmarmore6750 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I think that once Ocon was deserving of space, Pierre couldn't back out because he had the wall on his left and braking without going to the left would result in the same crash. It is up to Ocon to overtake safely and he didn't so he definitely deserves a penalty

  • @sevach
    @sevach 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    The Ocon apologist returns.

  • @viniciusbraga9881
    @viniciusbraga9881 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Ocon is very fond of "high risk, little to no reward" scenarios, specially against his teammates.
    Maybe he would've been fine if F1 allowed teams with only one driver, but he's the number one enemy of teamwork and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up leaving F1 sooner than expected due to teams losing any interest in his work.

    • @GeoffWulf
      @GeoffWulf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Absolutely, teams will have to take his history into consideration as a prospective driver. Midfield and backmarker teams generally need someone like Hulkenberg or Albon who are reliable and smart drivers, while the top teams can get better drivers than Ocon. His antics just make him the odd man out that no one is going to want on their team.

    • @loweffortstudio4097
      @loweffortstudio4097 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And just like that Alpine decided not to renew his contract

  • @MetabolicFrolic
    @MetabolicFrolic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    "When the driver in front of you and overtaking you has the inside line and is half a car length in front of you... I am sorry, but you have lost that corner."
    When the driver overtaking you has your front end sandwiched between the wall and their sidepod and is understeering into you... I am sorry, but you have nowhere to go.
    This is most burnt toast take I think I've heard about this collision.

    • @cyancut21
      @cyancut21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Especially when this concept of losing a corner doesn’t actually work that way at all. It’s up to the overtaking car to pass in a clean and safe manner and if the pass can’t be completed such that the overtaking car is still partly alongside the overtaken car, that car has to be given room until the pass is fully completed.
      Almost every driver on the grid doesn’t actually race like this because it isn’t penalised at all but this washing out wide to run the other car out of room tactic doesn’t even work in Monaco like you say

  • @NicotineRosberg
    @NicotineRosberg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Aldas starts doing a little go karting & all of sudden he's a race driver. Shit take

  • @jesseshore3873
    @jesseshore3873 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    The difference between the clip you showed of the Haas being run off when a half a car back, and the Ocon incident, is you can’t run someone off the track in Monaco, there’s just no space. Unless Gasly came to a complete 0kph stop, there was no chance he’d avoid contact, and even then they probably still collide, best case is probably that Gasly crashes into the wall on his own.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    When a “beat my teammate at any cost” mentality literally results in millions in damage + costing WCC points, it’s just self-sabotage. I think EO can be brought under control by a TP like Vowles making it incredibly clear how they expect Ocon to behave on track against teammates.

  • @AdMartens
    @AdMartens 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You can analyse all ocons’s crashes like this. It’s the sum of these that make him lose his value. It’s not a drivers fault, it’s a character flaw.

  • @joimirrow
    @joimirrow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    what a wheel knowledge by aldas, there is not a single valid argument to justify ocon

  • @TheZachatree
    @TheZachatree 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Ocon was specifically told not to do what he did. And regardless if the pass was clean it ended up with a car for the team out of the race. Ocon is a d bag.

  • @maxholmgren7936
    @maxholmgren7936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Don't get me wrong, Ocon is very good driver and I do think him being put on a bench in anyway would be a drastic response by Alpine for this incident, especially since he has won the qualifying teammate battle so far in 2024.
    That said, ever since 2017 (with the exception of Danny Ric in 2020) Ocon has somehow found a way to be a complete nightmare to every single teammate and he himself doesn't seem to care
    Edit: Yes Ocon was technically ahead after the corner but Gasly had nowhere to go (unlike Mick in that Silverstone '22 footage with Verstappen), I'd still put it on Ocon

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2017/18 is Perez being the problem.

    • @maxholmgren7936
      @maxholmgren7936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@tombardsley3081 you could view *it that way if you like. Just like you can say Alonso was the problem in 21/22 and Gasly now. Ocon is still the common factor. At some point, you can't ignore the pattern

    • @arroe8386
      @arroe8386 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tombardsley3081 They both were

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@maxholmgren7936 the evidence suggests otherwise. Checo cost the team more points with his antics Vs ocon than the other way around. There were no issues between ocon and Alonso in 21. It's really circumstantial that ocon is in all 3. By the same logic was Vettel a poor teammate because of his crashes and antics Vs Webber at red bull and then the crash he had Vs leclerc in 2019?

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@arroe8386 it was 3-1 to Perez when it came to incidents between the 2 and who was at fault

  • @PinkAsAPistol
    @PinkAsAPistol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When Ocon squeezes Gasly to the point that they have crossed wheels, it makes no sense to claim that Gasly should back off as this would have caused the exact same accident anyway, while the barrier right next to the track means he can't step outside either. Absolutely nothing to blame Gasly for in this case.

  • @Drie_Kleuren
    @Drie_Kleuren 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Where could gasly go? The wall? The move Ocon made was to agressive and he shouldnt have done that.

  • @adityavishwanath1676
    @adityavishwanath1676 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Damn, aldas actually blamed gasly for it

  • @Mike-fc9bx
    @Mike-fc9bx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I think a bigger problem is that everyone knew it was a terrible idea putting these 2 together and also Alpine shooting themselves in the foot with Fernando's & Oscar's contracts 2 yrs ago

    • @NexuJin
      @NexuJin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It was a desperate marketing move: 2 Frenchie 1 Alpine

    • @Mike-fc9bx
      @Mike-fc9bx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NexuJin very

  • @AjayV84
    @AjayV84 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If you really think this was Gasly's fault, especially after Ocon was told not to pass Gasly, I will say you are saying this just to be different from others. Ocon is an idiot who cannot accept defeat to his teammate.

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Ocon has the talent as a driver but he doesn't have the mentality for F1. The only reason he got a penalty and KMag didn't is the stewards bottling giving Kmag a race ban.

  • @AmsterdamHeavy
    @AmsterdamHeavy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    3 Charisma having frog-boy. "This is why everyone hates you"

  • @jamiejude
    @jamiejude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    total blatant disregard for his team. Get him out, he’s had more than his share of chances. Theres plenty of fresh drivers like Doohan that are more than deserving of the spot.

  • @papakimchitv674
    @papakimchitv674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yes, Ocon is a half car lengths ahead by the middle of the corner. But unlike the other tracks you showed, Gasly has nowhere to go. He cannot even break because they're already bound to hit each other by the midpoint. Portier is not a corner that you lunge someone especially your teammate.

  • @tuomasholo
    @tuomasholo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are forgetting that they discussed prior to the race not to attack each other as both had a chance for points positions. Ocon disobeyed team orders. End of story.

  • @cmacdhon
    @cmacdhon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It must be difficult to be a team player when your teammate is your biggest rival and your seat is largely dependent on your ability to consistently finish ahead of him.

  • @gray3157
    @gray3157 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    where was gasly supposed to go? The wall? 😂😂😂

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    If Ocon was on as many penalty points as Magnussen then he wouldn’t have got a penalty

  • @BoreanRebind
    @BoreanRebind 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I understand your point of view with the corner. However if you're Gasly, where do you go? It's Monaco, theres barely enough room on the straights to pass. Gasly couldn't do anything because if Gasly backs out he gets run over by someone behind him. In that event Alpine still only get one car in the points.

  • @Weakeyedominant
    @Weakeyedominant 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Had Alonso's engine not blown up so many times he would have whiped the floor woth Ocon.

  • @KentAmari
    @KentAmari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You're mixing things up. Just because the stewards didn't penalize Kmag for that incident doesn't mean Ocon does not deserve his.
    You should know better that the FIA is trying to not have a driver banned from a race, hence the leniency.
    I don't like it, but that doesn't have anything to do with Ocon's incident.

  • @milosvasic9678
    @milosvasic9678 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dude even he's own parents would not defend him like that lol

  • @gustavocardoso8747
    @gustavocardoso8747 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Blaming more Gasly is crazy, sorry man, absolute insane

  • @jackharvey9808
    @jackharvey9808 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think you’re not taking into full account a few things
    1) the new tyres mean even less visibility so “washing out of the corner” is not really viable with the barrier right there.
    2) the amount you can actually see in the cars themselves. You are basing this off the halo view and not the helmets. Check the helmet cam of previous races there’s not a lot you can see.
    3) “These drivers are paid professionals and part of the role is to as well as the team principal is to work with other people” yeah that’s probably why the team principal is putting his foot down and threatening him with missing a race. you can wave the carrot all day long if it’s not working you need to use the stick. Ocon has consistently behaved in a poor fashion over the years so it’s probably about time that the team lead stamps his foot a bit.

  • @prasanthselvadurai3450
    @prasanthselvadurai3450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Alonso Brazil 2022s comments aged like wine

  • @davidcasciari1989
    @davidcasciari1989 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sorry Aldas but you couldn't be more wrong with your hot take. Jenson taught us in 2017 you can't cut that corner when he flipped Pascal.

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ocon fights his team mate as if hes fighting for the championship, the way he drives gets on peoples nerves because the aggression just seems to spring from nowhere. i thought ocon and alonso got along well in 2021 and i thought he had genuine potental to be among the top 10 drivers on the grid in the future but in 2022? it was a shit show, and i dont think alonso can be given any blame for it.
    i will never forget alonso leaving the pits only for ocon to ruin his out lap by blocking him for most of the lap. he did that multiple times and it seems like its repeating again. we expect this kind of stuff from stroll, causing collisions or damaging other people cars but ocon shows more frequent flashs of talent, so its more frustrating that on the track hes a hazard to the team. as for my top 10 at this point in the year (in no particular order) its: verstappen, alonso, sainz, leclerc, norris, hamilton, russell, piastri, hulkenburg and tsunoda. im gutted aston martin has been barrowing parts from jcb because alonso has been massively out performing that car this year, like hulkenburg.

  • @ervanluk
    @ervanluk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    smaller teams like sauber or williams are expecting drivers to work together so that they can score points consistently. i don’t see how Ocon could fit in.

  • @johnraisbeck9756
    @johnraisbeck9756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When you see a Prima Donna that is a PITA and won’t listen then it’s best they dump him. He will not learn or listen. Two French drivers was always going to end in tears!

  • @moomsquad8705
    @moomsquad8705 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    No it’s completely different! He dive bonmed Gasly knowing there’s no space

    • @OTM-BandiT
      @OTM-BandiT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ? did you not even get 4 minutes into the video before commenting?

  • @thetruebatman4632
    @thetruebatman4632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In front of Gas or not, why the @$$ is he attacking his teammate to put them, as a team, in the each same positions but just with Ocon being in front? He’s a dirty driver, always has been, and he’s incapable of taking responsibility for any carnage he causes. Just look at him laughing in the face of Max after ruining his race a few years ago.

    • @CrusaderAce24
      @CrusaderAce24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was Max's fault entirely

  • @tomas.lambert
    @tomas.lambert 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think you don’t understand the concept of space. Perez didn’t leave space to kmag and he thus crashed, ocon didn’t leave space to gastly and he thus crashed

  • @AdvanceRGB
    @AdvanceRGB 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:25 From Gasly POV...
    is the first time I disagree with you
    Ocon is a harsh pilot that only think on himself
    Tell that to Checo, tell that to Fernando...
    That move in that corner in that track...
    you no need POV of a On Board camera to know that if you break you will crash the car at your side and if you avoid the crash you will end up in the wall.
    Is easy to say it on cold but be on that position and moment is another story

    • @CrusaderAce24
      @CrusaderAce24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Checo was the problem 90% of the time

  • @Jimboken1
    @Jimboken1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good that you re-examine incidents and are willing to go against the crowd.
    But Gazly was in no position to retreat from that collision and his was the racing line.
    Just before the corner he was tight behind Yuki I think so his pace was dictated by the car ahead.
    I suspect Ocon got hot under the collar because Gazly had squeezed him earlier.

  • @best___0999
    @best___0999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aldas: “I don’t think alpine will bench ocon for the next race”
    Alpine: that is right because he ll be fired at the end of the season

  • @dylanjamesbraithwaite3247
    @dylanjamesbraithwaite3247 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We all know you hate Gasly but even for you blaming the guy who got squeezed into the wall 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @patrickcesalestajodywibowo741
    @patrickcesalestajodywibowo741 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He's really the polar opposite of Magnussen. While magnussen drive very dangerously, at least he's often crash or causing problem to other team on the grid, never touch his teammate on track. While Ocon? Well, his main objective is destroying his teammate (really) 🤣

  • @rhysmorris5744
    @rhysmorris5744 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I disagree, its Monaco, gasly had literally nowhere to go, hed have to slam on the brakes. Also they tslked about how whoever qualified first got to stay ahead and thr guy behind eould protect, ocon ignored this within half a lap

  • @ShadowWolfe
    @ShadowWolfe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Like others (and Brundle) have said, lunging your teammate on lap 1 into Portier is just not a good move. You can go wide on almost any other F1 track on the calendar, not at Monaco. Gasly couldn't move any wider (can't brake to back out because no one expects you to brake on the exit of that corner) and it rightfully backfired on Ocon.

    • @freyalove3831
      @freyalove3831 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It looks like Aldas never drove in his entire life.

  • @syauqimuhammadnurfikriisla1119
    @syauqimuhammadnurfikriisla1119 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Gasly was nowhere to go mate

  • @miguelarguello7113
    @miguelarguello7113 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This video aged like fine wine

  • @ljessecusterl
    @ljessecusterl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All respect for Ocon making it to the F1 grid and being a race winner despite not being born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but the dude is an absolute dick to his teammates.

  • @NexuJin
    @NexuJin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ocon is fast. But he lacks gentlemenship in his driving. All he sees on track are 19 competitors. Which is unfortunate. He is just as talented as Sainz or Leclerc.

  • @Killerboot369
    @Killerboot369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You cant just jump someone at that angle and brake check them for the spot when there isnt an outlet. 100% Ocon’s fault but this has always been a garbage track

  • @osama2135
    @osama2135 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And today he left alpine. Took them too long to realize

  • @xXGhosttrolledXx
    @xXGhosttrolledXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How is Gasly under performing? He and Ocon finish close in the standings every race. I fail to see how you think that Gasly is under performing. Gasly consistently puts the car in the mid field along with Ocon.

  • @tjitsekoster9379
    @tjitsekoster9379 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nah man, Gasly had no fault in this incident. Ocon should have never tried. Gasly couldn't avoid it without creating other dangerous situations.

  • @ajinkyakhanzode890
    @ajinkyakhanzode890 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always so measured in your opinions but never mincing your words! I’ve got huge respect for what you do with this channel!

  • @Phantom-mg5cg
    @Phantom-mg5cg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2:10 But in Monaco there is a wall. I think also the penalty was hard, but fair.

  • @Sigma1755
    @Sigma1755 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great dissection, thank you.

  • @Carlos-ln8fd
    @Carlos-ln8fd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I swear i've watched this video five times today lol

  • @CarsWithJB
    @CarsWithJB 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agree with Aldas - the move was aggressive and wasn’t executed perfectly, but to my eyes Gasly knew he was at risk hence he moved right to try to block before the corner, Ocon had already committed, and neither driver was willing to concede

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As much as I dislike Ocon, he’d be a perfect signing for Williams. He’s exactly the type of driver Williams needs as he’ll: a) provide WF1 a reliable benchmark for Alex b) fight to extract the maximum out of the car and he doesn’t need a perfectly balanced car c) he’ll work hard in the simulator/off track and d) he’ll be inexpensive and so much better and hungrier than Bottas.

    • @Carlos-ln8fd
      @Carlos-ln8fd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That makes sense but i don't know how he'd fit with Williams' silly/wholesome social media strategy lol. I mean, still would be fun to see of course.

    • @JohnWiku
      @JohnWiku 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ocon would bankrupt Williams before summer break comes 😂😂
      Wtf are you on about?

    • @Czeslaw_cn4tv
      @Czeslaw_cn4tv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's literally the worst team he could join, he'd destroy it from the inside. Alpine is perfect for him with self sabotage everywhere.

  • @tysear9573
    @tysear9573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Piastri did the same thing to Sainz last GP. No one says a word. People shoot the outside line all the time, relax. Having a hard race doesn’t mean you can start divebombing over your teammates hood. Close calls happen every race & you don’t see this bullshit from anyone else.

  • @Pr0hunt3r18
    @Pr0hunt3r18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And you were correct. It is done. He is gone for next season.

  • @KINGjackJACKjack
    @KINGjackJACKjack 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He's unliked by fans and by the drivers, playing a risky game ocon my friend

  • @mike216514
    @mike216514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:38 At this very moment, @Aldas, that you think Gasly could have done to avoid the clash? Ocon’s rear left wheel is already behind Gasly’s front right wheel.
    Should he just stopped on the side, waited every other car to get by and then go on from the back??

  • @Lakshay70
    @Lakshay70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's like a switch goes off in ocon's head as soon as he sees gasly's car

    • @JH-pj8ld
      @JH-pj8ld 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or any of his teammate's car

  • @Warbuckssss
    @Warbuckssss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't agree. Ocon needed to prove he was a team player. He took the corner then squeezed Gasley out. On a regular track no problem but this is Monaco.. Gasley having to break to avoid Ocon would have probably lost him positions worsening the teams position. Going back to Alonso, you can tell Ocon played a major roll in him leaving.

  • @nashateg
    @nashateg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just to clarify on something you said. in reality , ocon is not actually a deserving race winner. he is a lucky race winner who like many others just won the F1 lottery and stars just lined perfectly for him, even more than luck , it was alonso who gave him that win , that much i am sure you know and respect. so no he is not a deserving race winner. he is just a race winner and a one time wonder f1 winner.

  • @octavio.santos
    @octavio.santos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just love how Aldas uses this ost that makes it look like Ocon's career is over.

  • @MuhammadNiz007
    @MuhammadNiz007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally a video where someone did there analysis

  • @0AbsoluteZero
    @0AbsoluteZero 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem is not that Ocon's pass was not clean; the problem was that both of them had agreed before the race to not attack each other. If they hadn't, Gasly wouldn't have left such big of a gap at that corner and Ocon would have never been able to push his car through the inside.

  • @CrusardModding
    @CrusardModding 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's crazy to think Ocon could get replaced yet Stroll is still allowed to race.

  • @martinjones2169
    @martinjones2169 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When i seen these two lined up to be teammates i knew there would be friction, i did not expect it to take this long before it had a major talking point.
    With the history between them and equal now machinery it was more of a matter of time before they started to become a difficult pairing to manage

  • @Not_James_V
    @Not_James_V 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This actually aged really well 😅

  • @sebastiandierks7919
    @sebastiandierks7919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I haven't heard people talk about a lot is that it is curious that the penalty was given due to Ocon and Gasly being team mates. Usually in incidents between team mates, the stewards are more lenient as the team is already punished enough. It's just an additional argument (first lap, move not as unclean as people make it appear) for why I find the penalty very harsh. Of course it was still totally stupid by Ocon not following team instructions, but that's not the stewards thing to judge.

  • @Stalingarde
    @Stalingarde 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alpine is such a mess right now. Pierre has become a disappointment (when compared to past seasons.) Ocon disobeyed direct team orders and nearly gave Alpine a double DNF, something that has become fairly normal for them. It's getting pretty hard to defend his reputation after 5 years and multiple teammates.

  • @thomasphan9719
    @thomasphan9719 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate your take as its making us really analyze this. I maybe need to see it from the car cameras behind Ocon, but to me if you pause at 56 seconds in, it appears if Gasly eases off or brakes to let Ocon pass, at "best" the Aston passes Gasly making Gasly and Alpine lose potential points to Aston. And at worse the Aston back wheel clips the Gasly's rear wheel, causing the Aston to go airborne with a whole grid behind and even more havoc.

  • @BPBomber
    @BPBomber 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you watch thoroughbred horses race, they have a single-minded goal, to be the front horse, restrained only by the mighty little man on their back. They just cannot help themselves, it’s primal. It’s almost like Ocon is the same way; when he’s behind the wheel he just can’t help himself. He seems like a pleasant guy off-track, but on-track he is a jerk.

  • @BrazilianBeast45
    @BrazilianBeast45 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some crazy takes on this video

    • @connortremmel
      @connortremmel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some of them are done right dealsional

  • @jbaidley
    @jbaidley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think this is Ocon's last season in F1. All that talent and he's squandered it by being incapable of racing his teammates in a sensible fashion. What a shame.

  • @TheWHEATISHweet
    @TheWHEATISHweet 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro, Gasly had nowhere to go!

  • @Legobro427
    @Legobro427 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The french civil war continues 😂😂

  • @JohnWiku
    @JohnWiku 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alpine is now crying about "Muh All FrEnCh tEaM" 😂😂😂
    Ocon is a menace on the track.
    Ocon races his teammates harder than any other driver, from another team.
    Ocon never was, isn't and never will be a team player.
    Alonso gifted him a race win, Ocon paid with war instead, absolute snake!

  • @pi5974
    @pi5974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're just straight up wrong about Gasly having blame. First of all if the team said don't do anything risky and Ocon does that while they're fighting for their first points just shows he only races for himself. Second, Gasly could've just squeezed Ocon instead but he gave him space and Ocon still decided to wash out. What do you want Gasly to do. Brake while someone is behind him and risk another crash?? He literally can't go anywhere because there is a WALL.

  • @dustinabigan2776
    @dustinabigan2776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Benching him feels like a knee jerk reaction that should be the last thing Alpine should be doing because it doesn't really address the problem which is that Ocon can sometimes get too aggressive. He just didn't weigh the risk vs reward that well in trying that move, especially on his teammate and not to mention you have a better shot gaining positions in Monaco through strategy than racing. If anything, it's very lucky that Gasly didn't get race-ending damage from that.
    I've always though of this with Ocon but the guy doesn't know when to stop fighting, which isn't really surprising. He grew up having to fight for every seat he's ever gotten. We've seen this with Max and Lewis and just about every driver: the way you grew up ultimately determines part of your motivations for racing and what will ultimately dictate how you race against everyone. If you grew up having to always race elbows out, that tendency isn't going away anytime soon.

  • @mufarrijlukman21
    @mufarrijlukman21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ocon has that “I cant be a bad Number 2 driver if im always the Number 1 driver” but truth be told noone is that good and are prone to make mistakes. His problem is that he does NOT take it well.

  • @davidduanes9574
    @davidduanes9574 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Expecting anyone let alone Gasly to leave the racing line so Ocon can have comfy overtake is ridiculous to say the least. First of all, Ocon was only able to make a move because both Gasly and his team thought he wouldnt do something so restarted on the first round, on his teammate, in that situation. Then when he did, its not like Gasly drove into him. He was not even defending, just keeping his regular line and Ocon obviously didnt make it because it was never going to work. I am actually amazed he almost didnt fuk it up.
    And make no mistake, Ocon is a terrible driver. Not only he shouldnt be in Alpine, he shouldnt be in F1 period. He is a Perez level driver with Verstappen level attitude. Not good enough driver, not good enough teammate. His value for any team equals Lance Stroll.

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @detmer87
    @detmer87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bye, bye Ocon!
    You will not be missed.

  • @kaylas2030
    @kaylas2030 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate this for Ocon because he's one of my favorites. He was performing well before this race, but his actions have consequences.

  • @kirill4524
    @kirill4524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my opinion, there was no space for Gasly to back out. Ocon put him in a position, where he could'nt avoid hitting him.

  • @andyprice4696
    @andyprice4696 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Earned a sub with your take on this. Fully agree. We have 2 drivers and neither will give way to the other. Beat each other at all cost. That says it all.

  • @gunny419
    @gunny419 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This may be the end for Ocon. He has has a history of not playing well with others.

  • @aurionblackfyre8480
    @aurionblackfyre8480 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here we go every TH-camr blowing this way out of hand