@@arnijulian6241 The Great and Happy Armada of 1588 lost 3 galleons (San Salvador, Nuestra Señora del Rosario and La Girona) and 32 armed transport ships, in addition to about 10,000 men. The fleet was not complete as it needed the space to embark the Flanders troops, that finally did not board. The English counterarmada of 1589 lost 40+ ships and about 13,000 men. Both expeditions can be considered a complete failure, failing to achieve any of their objectives, although the English victory of 1588 is more relevant as it allowed the country to survive, while Spain's survival was never in danger. English propaganda, magnifying its victories of the time and hiding its defeats, does not make us trust precisely the data they offer us. I don't see much difference between Spain's efforts to reunite the Iberian Peninsula into a single state and England doing the same in the British Isles, with resistance from the Scots and Irish. Remember that it is not those who want to insult, but those who can, and your offensive language simply makes you look childish.
You are misportraying the importance of the spanish armada. We can read the papal bulls. Ive never even heard it claimed they were uncontested on the water. What nonsense are they teaching now? Pure catholic propaganda.
It's funny how many times the aftermath of the Spanish Armada is casted as the moment England started overtaking Spain as a global empire. When in reality, and as seen on this video, nothing really changed geopolitically speaking. This war was one of the biggest nothing burguers in world's history.
Actually the change avoided is the story. If England had been conquered one could easily project the end of Protestantism and the smothering embrace of the Catholic Church as a government, not religion. One could also argue that the English colonies in North America would have been taken by the Spanish or French. So the continuation of Elizabeth was a step on a path that would be very different today if Spain had won. The loss of the English Armada in way assured England would look over seas not at Europe.
Well, geographically moronic war turned into a blunder on both sides, who could have expected that, huh?😅 To specify how it looks, imagine that in early 19th century UK and Spain had sailed to Alaska to fight for rights to US west coast that they can barely reach and would never afford to enforce their rules upon?
Us Hispanics need to have more of our history in English. When I argue with Anglo Supremacists they love to throw the Armada at me. I throw back the English Armada or Isla Flores (1591) back at them. They claim I made it up. Santiago y Cierra España! The treaty of London was favorable to Spain. Santiago y Cierra España! Viva España! Viva Hispano-America! Viva la Filipinas! Viva Hispanidad! Viva Cristo Rey!
@@ImperatorHispania It was all Spain at one time anyways! 😂 Anyway glad that the history of our ancestors is getting out! I'm tired of the Black legend and Anglo Supremacists nonsense. Have a good one!
I've seen a few, but they really are far less popular. It should be noted that some i saw were also laced with things that really weren't true, which rather reduced the legitimacy of videos covering an actual historical event.
Nice to see this video. Most people only focus on the Spanish armada that got defeated but this expedition right after from the English side was quite the failure. While Francis Drake was key for defending England against the Spanish armada, much of his career after that was pretty damn unimpressive. Thanks for all these late 16th century videos! I find this era very interesting and I hope we will go into the 17th century as well.
bueno "hombre" Francis "el Drake" como era conocido aqui siglos atras ya despues de la contrarmada ya no era aquel jovencito impetuoso ademas que en America nuestros antepasados ya habian aprendido la leccion de como fortificarse mejor ante los ataques piratas que lamentablemente se siguieron dando mucho tiempo despues de la muerte de el drake
Drake was kinda representative of the English as a whole of that time period. Solid at repelling attacks and engaging in smaller scale hit and run tactics. But horrible at initiating in large scale assaults/invasions. This entire fiasco was English hubris. Elizabeth seemed to believe their defeat of the Spanish Armada (which included a great deal of dumb luck) somehow translated to England being capable of taking on the full weight of the Spanish Empire on Spanish turf. England was nowhere close to having the men and resources to accomplish that during Elizabeth's reign. Even if England had somehow pulled off their initial objectives, the war still would have turned into a war of attrition in Portugal that England couldn't have sustained long-term.
Defeated? Our armada wasnt defeated lol. A storm made the invasion imposible. The brits had 0 chance to defend themselves and they didnt, a storm did the job not the god damn brits. Defeated... pff
Thank you from Spain! This is an honest video, against Leyenda Negra (Black Legend) or propaganda in both sides. Actually, Maria Pita is a real hero in La Coruña and a central square of the city was named like her in tribute and praise
I literally laughed out loud. Nobody expects the Spanish infiltration. Our chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and dare. That’s two weapons. Our two chief weapons are surprise and dare and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope. …
agradezco a Kings and generals por este documental muy detallado lo cual ayude a cesar de una vez con los lloriqueos de mis compatriotas que piensan que su canal solo difunde leyendas negras sobre el imperio español debo decir que se ve la diferencia en la educacion de ambas "partes del conflicto" me explico, en la seccion de comentarios sobre el video de la armada española hace 2 semanas no encontraras ningun ingles burlandose sobre lo que les sucedio a los españoles hace mas de 4 siglos,eso si ellos ensalzan las hazañas de sus antepasados pero sin burlarse de sus "enemigos" algo que me parece bien y comprensible cosa muy distinta con lo que sucede con mis compatriotas españoles donde ingresan en cada video sobre el conflicto de inglaterra y españa para burlarse sobre las penalidades que pasaron los ingleses saludos cordiales
@@hugopontevedra ai, si, por Deus! Sempre andan coa matraca esa. Agradezo moitísimo o teu comentario. Notase que algúns andan mal de lecturas serias sobre este tema.
@@hugopontevedra la tradicion estoica inglesa contrasta con nuestro patriotismo histrionico, por eso ellos estan donde estan y nosotros estamos donde estamos
Just to add that the "Spanish infiltration" was known as encamisada, from camisa = shirt. Very common tactic of the spanish army at the time. They did these infiltrations at night, removing all armour and wearing only their shirts to move silently and be easily recognisable by their mates, I think they didn't take any firearms, only bladed weapons. It was, obviously, very unexpected :)
The fact that everyone knows about the Spanish Armada and even in my country (Spain) no one knows about this is astonishing at best, and quite embarrassing honestly
there is an immense amount of information on the counter-armada, the problem is that it is not translated into English, which is the current world language
I think it's because the failure of the Spanish Armada was one of the most significant single events in human history. Turning the course of the Huguenot Wars, and assisting the Dutch Revolt, it arrested Habsburg conquest of W. Europe, allowing the 30yrs War to end with the independence of Western nations (see Westphalian Sovereignty). Had Philip listened to his own Admirals, and landed in Wales or Ireland first, it could've gone the other way around. Europe would have become entirely Habsburg (for a few centuries anyway), and the rest of the World would look very different right now. In contrast, the failure of the English Armada had little impact on anything. Or do we really think Elizabeth seriously hoped to conquer Spain? 🤔
los españoles somos asi, hay grandes navegantes como Blas de Lezo con docenas de victorias (Cartagena de Indias) y nadie sabe quien es, Nelson sim embargo tiene una estatua en el centro de Londres
Finally, a documentary on the Counter-Armada in English, this tends to be overlooked in the Anglosphere, with the Spanish Armada of 1588 taking major focus, similarly, the English victories at Crecy, Poitiers and Agincourt also receives the same overemphasis, despite France winning the Hundred Years War. The film "Elizabeth the Golden Age" is a good example of Elizabethan propaganda being repurposed for a modern audience, where _ONLY_ England stood to a foreign rogue power, and saved the cause with gallant and force of arms. Incidentally, it would be the Dutch who would supercede the Spanish as the main naval power, perhaps Kings and Generals could make videos on the Anglo-Dutch Wars, this is also a fascinating topic.
But the other Spanish armadas (3 failed armadas sent against Elizabethan England) are even lesser known than the English armada. Even the pro-Elizabeth film which didn’t mention the English armada also didn’t mention the second and third Spanish armadas. As for the HYW, the reason those victories get a lot of attention is because England was a country with a much smaller population, and they put up a strong fight against a powerful kingdom on their own turf. They are famous for being victories against the odds and with Henry V there’s the what if he lived factor to consider as he was set to became the king of France and was an undefeated commander. I know France also won battles against the odds like Patay, but in terms of population and economy medieval France had much more resources than England. Crecy, Poitier and Agincourt get a lot of attention (rightly so, they’re all annihilations against the odds) they aren’t over represented so much as French victories are under represented. However, I’d say most (or at least many) people who have heard of Agincourt have also heard of Joan of Arc. You aren’t wrong though that Britain focuses more on its successes than defeats.
@@archivesoffantasy5560Have you ever heard of the 20,000 English deaths in the so-called War of Jenkins' Ear, or in Spanish, Guerra de Asiento? 20,000 English soldiers died Vs 4,500 Spanish dead, 407 English ships sunk, Vs 189 Spanish. Uppps. Blas de Lezo. The English crown had absurdly ordered that thousands of English coins be minted with the image of the English admiral Edward Vernon on one side receiving the crown of the viceroyalty of the Spanish Indies on one side. England lost the war and was humiliated in combat by the commander "halfman" Blas de Lezo. Only in that disastrous English attempt to take Cartagena de Indias did 4,400 Englishmen fall. Oh. Add and continue.
_In the Medieval period, one out of every four people in Europe were French. France was the superpower on the continental land mass with a very large population. What was Elizabethan England in the 1500s? Two million people. It was regarded by the rest of the world as barbarous, on the outer edge of barbarity. The English stood up to King Philip of Spain - who owned the Netherlands. But within Europe Britain will become one of the great civilizing powers of the world._ _What was the England of Marlborough - the mid 1600s to the early 1700s? England had 8 million, France had 25 million which was larger than Russia. The Duke of Marlborough defeated the French who wanted to take control of France and Spain and her colonies, and hence be a European megapower._ _Later, England was 10 million with Napoleon's France having 30 million, the fourth largest population in the world, and he also had most of Europe. The British took him on, gathering small allies, and won. The British stood up to practically all the old world - and tamed all the new. Later, Hitler and his allies amounted to 180 million, and the occupied countries on top. Again the British took him on, gathering allies and won._ _You cannot be so small that you are negligible. Size and wealth are not so important, as courage and faith._ - Harold McMillan
@@johnburns4017 my friend, england losted the spanish succesion war as the main goal of the english, the french bourbons take the spanish throne, was not achieved. france and spain won that war and formed a formidable block of power all the 18th century. the fact that one century later the british defeated france and spain to become the world superpower for 100 years do not change the fact that england lost the spanish succesion war.
This invasion left to this day a saying here in Portugal: since then, we call false friends as _Amigos de Peniche_ (Friends from Peniche), since the English Army was first expected to come as friends, only to then loot several villages and towns, and ultimately desert the cause of D. António. Beautiful episode, regarding a rather obscure episode from my country, for which I thank K&G. Note: Portugal was indeed annexed by the Spanish Habsburgs, and D. Filipe II of Spain, I of Portugal, did have a just claim to the Portuguese throne, since he was grandson of the Portuguese king D. Manuel I, through his mother the Portuguese Infanta D. Isabel. The other two claimants (a granddaughter of king D. Manuel I, D. Catarina, married to the Duke of Bragança, and the mentioned D. António) did not have not nearly enough power or prestige to gain the upper hand - although it would be a Duke of Bragança who would restore independence in 1640. D. Filipe II of Spain, I of Portugal, was, as so, crowned king of Portugal in the Cortes of Tomar, in 1580, granting a lot of liberties regarding to the autonomous government of the kingdom of Portugal and its overseas Empire. In the Habsburg coat of arms, the Portuguese national shield was added in a place of honor - the _Abismo do Chefe_ (Chief's Abyss), and to this day we always refer to the 3 Habsburg kings of Portugal by their number as Spanish kings (D. Filipe II, III, and IV) and as Portuguese kings (D. Filipe I, II, and III). These concessions facilitated a peaceful annexation - contrary to what happened in the interegnum of 1383/85. It was his son and grandson's lack of respect to these concessions that ultimately led the Portuguese into open revolt, culminating in the Revolution of December 1st, 1640, and the _Guerra da Restauração_ (Restoration War) that lasted until 1668, effectively ending the Iberian Union.
It's baffling how anyone would think the Portuguese nobles would rise against the king that themselves had proclaimed, only to support the pawn of foreign PROTESTANT invaders.
@@a2falcone most nobles weren't moved by patriotism - something that already happened in the 1383-85 interegnum. For most of them, a union with Spain was quite lucrative, since it opened vast markets in the Americas. By the time of the Restoration of Independence, the soon to be King of Portugal, the Duke of Bragança, together with his wife the daughter of the Duke of Medina-Sidónia, were insanely rich. Legend says that she, D. Luísa de Gusmão, had to encourage her husband to accept the risk of the Revolution, by stating "I'd rather be queen for a day, than a duchess the rest of my life!" - that's the spirit! Mind also that those were still the days of the Holly Inquisition here in the Iberian Peninsula. Dark days, when questioning the Catholic Church was a one way ticket to burn in the stick... Not to be forgoten either the disaster that engulfed the Portuguese Army in the Battle of Alcácer Quibir in 1578, and the disaster where the Portuguese Navy was envolved within the Invincible Armada, something that crippled any Portuguese chance of response against the might of Spain in that period.
@@Trancymind The English were also "tough hombres" when they were well prepared and with good discipline. just watch the video that this same author made about the third and last siege of Gibraltar. Lo bueno es que esta vez nuestros antepasados estuvieron bien preparados y con ganas de devolverles el favor que nos hicieron el año anterior Here is the link about that siege th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=great+siege+of+gibraltar
@@hugopontevedrael mismo autor italiano. Hombre, gracias por darte cuenta. Acaba de salir otro video por el italiano, sobre la 2a y 3a Armada. Y hace un par de semanas acabò de escribir el nuevo episodio sobre la 4a Armada, y la invasiòn de Irlanda por Don Juan del Àguila. Buen provecho.
It calls my attention that a British TH-cam channel would make a video about a British defeat , which was what the Drake-Norris expedition was , so kudos for the Brits for not only talking about victories.
They are not British. I first thought they were Turkish, because they were focused on Ottoman history a lot, but Google says they are Canadians and one of them is of Azerbaijani origin
@@romanpopyk Okay , thank you . Because the narrator was British and the name of the channel was in English I just assumed it was a British TH-cam channel
It's refreshing to see a British channel delve into historical defeats like the Drake-Norris expedition, often overshadowed by the Spanish Armada's fame. It's a testament to the channel's commitment to a balanced portrayal of history.
Its important to note that England wasn't known a naval power by this point, and was basically living on minimum wage. The concept of a counter armada against Spain at the zenith of its wealth and power was a terrible move which did more damage to England that the armada did.
@@franciscoamezcua6338 huh?? the fact that we're having this conversation in english proves otherwise lmao also, real english dominance wasn't until post-napoleon. at that point, spain was delegated to a lesser power, unable to cling onto their status as a great power even. not to mention that the gap only widened further, english zenith would've been right around WW1, or slightly before. at which point, spain was pathetic in comparison
I have to agree that this part of the conflict between Spain and England is definitely underreported. I was unaware of this counterstrike prior to this video. I had, for the most part, only been aware of Elizabeth I's privateer sanctioned war against Spanish naval vessels. Thanks for the informative and (as always) greatly detailed depiction of this series of historical events.
Fun fact: One of the men defending Lisbon from the English atack was Duke Teodósio of Bragança, father of the future king João IV of Portugal who would later reclaim the kingdom's independence and end Spanish rule. Teodósio was also King Sebastião's squire during the disastrous battle of Alcacer Quibir when he was just 10 years old. Impressed with the bravery of such a young boy the Morrocan sultan allowed the kid to go home without a ransom being paid.
anyway the wife of the former Duke of Braganza, Catarina, was the real heir of king Henrique I crown, being a descendent of a male son of Manuel I, when Filipe II of Spain was a descendent of a Manuel I daughter, the empress Isabel, wife of Charles V. Wisely Catarina preferred to contemporize instead to risk all in a war with her cousin. Her grandson ascended to the throne in 1640.
He sure was a great soldier! But Portugal became independent in 1640, because Spain was at war simultaneously in 1640-1668 throughout the planet, against France, England, Protestant Germany, the Netherlands, the Turkish Empire, Denmark, Sweden, Portugal, Morocco, Berber pirates, Filipino Moors, Japanese pirates. , Chinese pirates, Mapuches from Chile and Apaches from the Great Plains. We were fighting the English and the Dutch in the Caribbean, Atlantic, Mediterranean, Channel of England and Pacific. And we had to beat France in Italy, Catalonia and the Spanish Netherlands. In the midst of that context we could not send the best armies to Portugal. Surely, in that kind of context, the Germans lost to Serbia in WW1, and to some other country in WW2. But I understand that for Portugal it was an important date, and they really won those battles. But always within a context where Spain was trying to stop the Protestant expansion, which had the objective of invading Rome, Madrid, Lisbon and Vienna, destroying Catholicism, Mediterranean culture and our empires in the world. Spain had to invade Germany several times (southern Germany and the Palatinate are Catholic). In Italy we had to build 50 fortresses to stop the Turks. We had to invade Paris, so that the French would become Catholic, in 1590. It is a more complex war than it seems. Not only sell spices from the Far East.
Elizabeth I dropped the ball with this invasion. She should have stuck to using her navy to disrupting Spanish shipping and funding proxy wars. A full scale invasion is always iffy business, and she clearly did not have the military resources to pull this off.
Perhaps, however it should be remembered that her commanders ignored Elizabeth's orders, so maybe the blame should be put on them. I'm not saying they would have been successful had they followed her majesty's orders, but there is that now "what if?" her commanders had done what they were ordered to do in the first place.
@@skyden24195 That is true. Drake was a talented Admiral, but he was a pirate whose main motivation was personal gain. The land invasion is where I think she made a mistake. England’s army was not much to speak of, but her navy and intelligence service was first rate. Drake was best used to plunder Spanish ships and a guerilla type of warfare at sea, not a land invasion. Her Spymaster Francis Walsingham arguably had the best intelligence service in Europe. And she funded proxy wars in the Low Countries against Spain. When she stuck to that strategy, she was successful. With the land invasion, she tried the same strategy that Philip II attempted with the Armada invasion, and it failed. As they say, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
@@TheStrategos392 Spain beat the English in several naval engagements after this. England was a backward nation fighting the most powerful nation on Earth. Read the treaty of London, Spain won the war
footnote: On June 5, when morning broke, Bazán's galleys noticed the enemy's movements and fired, waking up Lisbon. The Spaniards began pursuing after concluding that the enemy's withdrawal was real and not a ruse. All the while, the English infantry firing was followed by the galleys. Sancho Bravo and Alarcón attacked the English column as they got closer to Cascais, killing hundreds more people.
Awesome video. Can you believe everyone in Coruña knows about that battle but nobody knows about it's significance? Most people think a couple of English pirate ships attacked and that was it...
@@666xurxo ese es uno mas de los que creen en modernos pseudohistoriadores que le han dicho que nuestro pais y el mundo entero no quieren que sepamos nuestra propia historia
As an English person who is interested in a board range of history, I am disappointed that I have not heard of this before. But happy to have found your video.
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Excellent work with the two videos, I think you are the only TH-cam channel that has explained the two armadas, in the most objective way possible, especially since the second one is totally forgotten when the subject is talked about. Seeing the result of the two Invasion armies, it is incomprehensible how there are people who claim victory for one of the two sides, the two naval campaign were a resounding failure and only served to waste money, ships and thousands of soldiers' lives; In the end, the war ended without any advantage for both sides, it was practically as if nothing had happened, I think the only ones who benefited from this conflict were the Dutch rebels (who relieved the pressure on their territory, which helped them to recover with Maurice of Nassau later, at least until Spinola arrived to reinforce the Tercios of Flanders) and the French who supported King Henry IV (who, with the Spanish fleet occupied and Farnese dead of illness, managed to win the throne of France ), since this distraction allowed them to establish themselves in power, and then become the worst rivals of Spain and England in the following century (the French in the Thirty Years' War and the Dutch in the wars against England later).
Thank you very much for given a piece of the Portuguese history. Fun fact due to this invasion from England there is a idiomatic expression in portuguese language. The idiomatic expression is amigo de Peniche the litteral translation is Friend of Peniche. It means a false friend , a disloyal partner who cannot be trusted.
Irmã, I know we couldn't not be trusted. We were extremely hungry for power 😅 But to trust the perfidious pirates? That's letting the entirety of Latin Europe down...
@@commando4481 Official we were a neutral country except East Timor. This colony was ocupy by Australia, Holand and Japan. In Azores we allowed to established allied base. The Base das Lajes which became quite famous during the second war of Iraq. For Madeira Island, Portugal received 2,500 evacuees from Gibraltar. In Estoril and Lisbon there was full of spies from both sides. In fact the Casino Royale by Ian Fleming is inspered his experience in Estoril as member Naval Intelligence Division (NID). There were portuguese fought in the American army, French resistence and Blaue Division of the Wehrmacht. Additionnally, Portuguese died in various concentration camps. We sold Wolframite to England and Germany. we received refuges in Portugal and was quite a chok because Portugal was very conservety socity. Althought the portuguese goverment didn't want any Jews refugess, some reached Portugal, thank to them they introduzed to the Portuguese cuisine, Berliner. Aristides de Sousa Mendes, Carlos Sampaio Garrido , José Brito Mendes and Priest Joaquim Carreira are consider Righteous Among the Nations. Additionally, there were dog fights between British and german planes. Also in a In an aide-mémoire of 5 September 1939, the British government confirmed the neutrality of Portugal.
Portugal was neutral, thank god. Was a blessing for Churchill aims to harass the III Reich. More, the neutrality of the entire Iberian Peninsula saved the UK to loose Gibraltar and a German landing in the western North Africa, provoking the adhesion of Vichy's France to the Axis. Malta would fallen due the closure of the Mediterranean Sea and Mussolini would parade in the Cairo on his white horse. Consequences? Some: Imagine Great-Admiral Doenitz U-boots controlling all the Portuguese coast. Imagine that Turkey would join the Axis, more revolts against the British rule in Iraq, the defection of Persia and the absolute Axis control of the entire Middle East. More, a different Barbarossa Operation including a German-Turkish assault in the Caucasus south front. Think about it. London should have a statue dedicated to Salazar who realised to convince Franco to not join the Axis. @@commando4481
Yeeeees finally, I've been waiting forever for a mainstream history channel to do a video on this. It almost never gets talked about in the English speaking world.
Like many of the comments have said, England wasn't a world power at this rate. It was starting to become one, but it had a smaller population compared to Spain, who was its height of power here.
Un video hecho por un anglo que explica el desastre de la contra-armada inglesa, eso está bien ya que así no ocultan su historia negativa. El desastre y las pérdidas de la contra-armada inglesa fue mucho más grande que la Felicísima Armada (éste fue el verdadero nombre que le día el rey Felipe II).
@@hugopontevedra, Official British history has never hesitated to grossly minimize or outright erase defeats. This is a very clear example, it is not the only one.
@@enekoeneko69 eso es lo que crees porque no has leido a historiadores ingleses tampoco veo quee se hagan documentales en españa sobre el tercer asedio de gibraltar que fracaso miserablemente Porque los ingleses querian hacer documentales sobre sus fracasos si otros paises no lo hacen ??
Historically, the greatest contempt for the British fighting man was from his own side. The fight against the Armada reflects this. British sailors wounded in the battle were left to rot on the beaches, given no help with their wounds or food for their bellies.
When some non spaniard people reads something about Blas De Lezo it will blow their minds, it's incredible how there are no films about this amazing admiral.
Nice to see the Kingdom of Navarre actually shown on the map - usually it's omitted after the loss of the section of the kingdom south of the Pyrenees. Granted, it would come under a personal union with France when Henry of Navarre ascended the French throne less than a month after the end of the main events of the video.
Seeing how dominant the Spanish were in land engagements, we can see how much danger England was in from the Spanish Armada and why it was so important that they did everything they could to break up the fleet and prevent a landing.
This is a fact , had Spain been able to board their Army of Flanders and then make a successful landing in England , there would have been very little the English could have done to stop them. The Spanish tercios during those times were unbeatable.
Although it hurts the English to admit, at that time England was a second-rate player. The enemies of the Spanish Empire were France on land, the Netherlands on the sea and the Ottoman Empire in the Mediterranean. The fundamental reason for invading England was to provide the Spanish fleet with ports from which to blockade the Netherlands and facilitate the transportation of the Tercios to Flanders. There is an expression in Spanish that says "put a pike in Flanders" and that means something very expensive. To go to Flanders, the Spanish Tercios had to be transported by sea to Italy, cross the Alps and then, following the so-called Spanish road that was formed by the possessions of the House of Burgundy, reach Flanders bordering the French border. Great Britain only became a major maritime power after the Anglo-Dutch Wars. The Netherlands was able to resist the Spanish empire and end up defeating it for two reasons: the support received from the Protestant powers and also from France and above all because of its economy, the Netherlands was the first nation where capitalism developed, while the Spanish Empire It still functioned economically as in the Middle Ages
@@JJaqn05 During the 15th century the only powers in Europe were the Spanish Empire and the Ottoman Empire. The rebellion of the United Provinces in the mid-15th century was the Vietnam of the Spanish Empire, a war that could not be won, a true logistical madness but in which it was necessary to continue fighting based on what the Americans called the politics of the game domino. Spain's big problem at sea was not the English pirates, in 300 years only two convoys of the Indies fleet were captured, the biggest problem was the arrival of the Dutch to the Far East and the taking of part of the Portuguese colonies , when Portugal was united to Spain, the Dutch even settled in Brazil. After the decline of the Spanish Empire, the power that took over was France with Cardinal Richelieu. England only began to appear as a great power after the War of the Spanish Succession and its commercial and maritime rival was the Netherlands.
Interessantissimo. Sui libri di storia scolastici si parla solo della sconfitta dell'Armada, ma non di questa disastrosa sconfitta inglese. Ah, la propaganda storiografica..
recuerdo alla por el año 2000 que "the history channel" o "Biography" by A & E,creo que fue este ultimo hizo un video sobre la vida de francis drake centrandose principalmente en la "armada invencible" pero en ese mismo video tambien hablo sobre el desastre de la contrarmada fue un excelente documental lastima que no la pueda encontrar en youtube
@@hugopontevedra ¿Y? Yo me refiero a que ningún otro canal de habla inglesa habia explicado el conflicto con tanto detalle y profundidad. Un comentario en un video sobre la armada invencible no es nada.
@@hugopontevedra De acuerdo, pero no era un video de la contraarmada bien explicado de principio a fin. Sin embargo vas a ver 200 videos en inglés y en español hablando de la armada Española. Mi punto es ese.
@@jorgemejiasp no su punto era que y cito textualmente: "Finally a channel in English talking about this." lo cual le he dicho que no es asi es probable que haya mas documentales antiguos que hablen de ese tema pero esten archivados y el asunto de porque no se habla mucho de la contraarmada en ingles y mas si de la felicisima armada es porque esta ultima tenia como objetivo la conquista del pais un evento extraordinario a diferencia de la contrarmada que tenia como objetivo no tomar otro pais sino inflingirle un mayor daño
Please mention the Battle of Cape Celidonia when 5 new Spanish galleons defeated the entire Ottoman armada, which was 10 times bigger or the story of fort mose the first free black city in Florida as part of the Spanish empire
Es increíble cómo se manipula la historia. En el caso de la visión anglosajona, omitiendo convenientemente sus derrotas y exagerando las victorias sobre España. La hegemonía cultural anglosajona es tal que no sólo ha reescrito su propia historia, adoctrinando a su propia gente, a través de la educación y del propio hollywood, sino que ha conseguido que los propios españoles y el resto de europeos tengamos una visión de la historia filtrada por esa hegemonía cultural anglosajona. Sólo desde hace relativamente poco, no más de 20 años, que muchos historiadores hispanos e hispanistas de todo el mundo, han podido evidenciar esta manipulación que la oficialidad nos sigue vendiendo incluso en la propia España.
Spanish history is extremely unknown for some reason, people seem to forget spain was the first superpower for 2 centuries and only backed down in 1750, 10 years after they had sank the royal navy of the Caribbean in war of Jenkins ear
You would say 3 Centuries from 1500 until 1800. After the defeat of British Navy in Cartagena de Indias 1741 aprox by Blas de Lezo ...the British were also defeted by Spain along several places for the independence of 13 Colonies such Mobila, Batón Rouge, Pensacola by Bernardo Gálvez, San Luis Illinois by Fernando Leyva at Fort San Carlos, dozens of supply Ships in the middle of Atlantic ocean by Almirall Cordova....all of these Battle occurred about 1780 when Spain was still destroying British army.
Now we can talk about James Cook, a british that "discover" the Pacific sea for the British. But they don't know that the British stole the Spanish maps in Manila ( Philippines). The Pacific sea was called "the Spanish lake". Please a video about the " galeon de manila". And remember that Madrid may be was the capital of the Spanish empire, but the true capital was Mexico, in new Spain. The center of the empire, between "galeon de manila" and "flota de indias". Thanks for the video, not always is black legend.
@@imperialinquisition6006well the pacific was already known by the Spanish and Portuguese, and as it’s with universities in the new world and overall urban development, the British got it later
The Spanish truly were some of the toughest bravest men in history. Crazy to think they were a powerhouse and a force to be reckoned with back in their heydays.
The peace treaty was badly received by the English who viewed the terms as humiliating. England was forced to stop supporting their Dutch allies and its piracy of Spanish treasure fleets. But what cannot be ignored is that by maintaining its independence, England would *eventually* go on to becoming a major imperial power of its own, albeit not immediately.
Despite the pride the British have in the British Empire, the British were remarkably unsuccessful in seizing Spanish territory. Just Jamaica in 1645, Gibraltar in 1704, & other small territories. British twice in 1806 & 1807 failed to take Rio de La Plata.
The English sailors where forbidden from leaving their ships after fighting the Spanish. The reason being that Elizabeth 1st had no intention of paying them for their services. They knew that they would perish on their ships.
I read about this in a history part in a newspaper. It seemed that the brits whated to keep it quiet from history. As I never seen mentioned in documentary or books. It's about time someone bought this part of British history. So we'll done for bringing this up. 👽👍
For British and English history it isn't that important. It didn't change the status quo, and even had it been a success I doubt it would change much, meanwhile the Spanish armada could have changed the world if it succeeded.
It's the same with the battle of , Cartagena de Indias in 1741. What could be the biggest defeat in Royal Navy history , the Brits don't talk about that.
@@SeptimoBasico-nu8uh It should be an established tradition in historiography. Whenever something happens on May the Fourth, a Star Wars reference should be smuggled in.
Fun fact: in spains national day theres a moment of silence, and a song called death is not the end where we honour all the spaniards of history who have fought to defend their motherland, that includes the portuguese we see in the video and people from other territories such american natives, philipines etc...
True. We all heard about Elizabeth's defeat of the Spanish Armada, and yet nearly no one mentions her failed attempt afterwards. I hate the two Elizabeth movies because they portray her as this very competent monarch with practically no flaws, while the Catholics were snobbish and incompetent fanatics.
Many other things have been omitted from history , like the Russian invasion of Paris and capture of Napoleon, and the massive Run away episode in the Ardenes ww2 when the English expeditionary force was guarding this access into France and the Germans broke in unexpectedly, allowing the Nazis to take over the Marginot line from behind and the expeditionary force escape to Dunkerque , reason why De Gold hated. The English as it was a shameful betrayal
There is a much, much bigger naval disaster that still gets intentionally omitted from the school curriculum, I say "intentionally" because it was the biggest event recorded in Samuel Pepys's diaries; the other events in it, the plague, the fire, are frequently taught to children through his diaries but utter silence about the disaster in the Medway that he had major personal involvement with. The Dutch navy broke through the inadequate defences there and towed away the best of the English navy without having to fire a shot. No British kid is allowed to hear about that🙂
agradezco a Kings and generals por este documental muy detallado lo cual ayude a cesar de una vez con los lloriqueos de mis compatriotas que piensan que su canal solo difunde leyendas negras sobre el imperio español debo decir que se ve la diferencia en la educacion de ambas "partes del conflicto" me explico, en la seccion de comentarios sobre el video de la armada española hace 2 semanas no encontraras ningun ingles burlandose sobre lo que les sucedio a los españoles hace mas de 4 siglos,eso si ellos ensalzan las hazañas de sus antepasados pero sin burlarse de sus "enemigos" algo que me parece bien y comprensible cosa muy distinta con lo que sucede con mis compatriotas españoles donde ingresan en cada video sobre el conflicto de inglaterra y españa para burlarse sobre las penalidades que pasaron los ingleses saludos cordiales
Cuantos videos has visto de la Armada Inglesa; cuantos videos has visto de derrotas Inglesas no critiques por que no es burla en su gran mayoria y esas criticas muchas veces es por que los videos en ingles casi literalmente no hacen videos ni de sus grandes derrotas ahora mira cuantos videos hay en Español sobre la mal llanada Armada Invencible nombre que popularizemos nosotros a sabiendas de que era una burla a toro pasado de un noble Ingles no exageras y digas que todos son criticas y por cierto los Ingleses no critican a los suyos aunque tengan motivos lo he notado tambien y este no es el caso
Como hispanista estoy de acuerdo contigo, los británicos siempre fueron rivales duros, hay que reconocerlo, y son más patriotas que nosotros, eso admiro de ellos.
Thank you for spreading the word about this, British nationalists too proudly think like the Spanish Armada was the key to the decline of the Spanish Empire when in reality that is an exaggeration.
It's frustrating how overlooked Spain is as a military power in the English speaking world. Spain was the main adversary and match to the Ottomans, the sixteenth century was mainly a contest between them, but English centered history overstates the importance of England at that time.
Thank you so much for highlighting that less told story of the failed 1589 British counter armada trying to loot the Iberian territories in response to a more known failed Spanish one trying to invade the British isles the previous year ! The Iberian resistance proved to be tenacious & staunch motivated by the sectarian religious zeal of the time between the (Catholic) Iberian defenders & the (Protestant) Anglo - Dutch invaders ; Where the land fought with its people to grant victory to the Iberian side ! The British made that move in retaliation for the 1588 Spanish armada on the British isles & as a reparation endeavor for the economic casualties Britain sustained as a consequence of the failed Spanish invasion attempt ! The British employed pirate tactics of " swift hit , mass plunder & rush run " trying to loot the gold-stocked Spanish treasuries in the nearby coastal ports like " Coruna " in the far northwest tip of the Iberian peninsula BUT they lacked the naval upper hand against a far superior Spanish fleet at the time . The Spaniards had piled up massive treasures from their colonies in the Americas for roughly a century before the 1589 British counter-armada on the Iberian territories & Spain became the western super power of the time militarily & economically ; while Britain was tracking then its footsteps to the new world & the uncharted territories overseas to catch up with it centuries later ! Still the time for Britain was NOT yet then !
The largest British disaster against Spain was during the Jenkins' Ear War. On April 20th, 1741 a huge fleet of 184 vessels with 27600 soldiers and sailors under the command of Admiral Vernom was smashed in Cartagena de Indias (today Colombia). Half the fleet and men were lost. To cover the disaster the British King forbade to mention it in the history books and some commemorative coins were mint to the celebrate the "victory". In general British are better than Spaniards in self-marketing, but Spain has won more battles to them, than the other way around. Our Empire was truly the largest and most influencial on modern history. The rest is lack of academy and excess of envy and "black legend". 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
British 184 ships vs Spanish 6 ships... and the british lost. Here you have the main reason for hiding the defeat.( and it is not the only time that they are defeated and the result is prohibited from being included in the history books. )
@@obvious-troll Doing a Google search we can see that Spain did not fall more or worse than the United Kingdom. It can also be seen that the Spanish Empire lasted much longer, with a large part of its success being the policy of miscegenation and reinvestment of the 4 parts of 5 in the same land that gave rise to them. This causes the local and indigenous militias themselves to fight furiously against the English invasions, for example Argentina or Mexico or Colombia supporting the few Spanish troops. Perhaps this is why we do not have MI 5 and MI 6 creating a massive operation to erase and modify the history of the British Empire as the UK did with OPERATION LEGACY with the aim of hiding everything that could embarrass the Crown and the British people in relation their actions... Regarding to the 2 percent military spending... well, first we fill the pantry, we fill the supermarkets, the gas stations, etc. and then we dedicate ourselves to do more things, that is, because things that we don't have in mind are weapons and money 24 hours a day. In the United Kingdom it seems that there is not much lettuce or tomatoes or eggs or gasoline or doctors and nurses... but they have two aircraft carriers that do not work or work poorly. We will talk about the frigates of the United Kingdom another day... but you do teh performance 'Presenting The Colors' instead 'Presenting The Fridge' for be inspected by the King too. Amazing
Honestly i was surprised to see you making avideo about this Catastrophe in fact dont matter that much when you have huge powers like Spain or england at that time, the spanish launched several armadas at the isles and they did the same with spain Neigther crippled any of the 2 nations for centuries Hope that this video help people to understand that is hard to really criple major powers of an era
@@hugopontevedra Yes, I do know at the time that Spain was larger and was colonizing the Americas, and Philippines. However, that is not really needed background information, what is really a part of all this is what started the conflict. The Spanish Armada invaded England because the queen executed her half sister, Mary the first who was Catholic. It was more of a religious war.
@@Sehlan-vi9lh More than a religious issue, it was an economic issue since piracy and aid to the Protestant cause in Flanders was causing serious economic losses. Maria's execution was a perfect pretext for the invasion
@@hugopontevedra No, you got it all wrong. I said England was protestant, and Spain was trying to convert England to Catholicism. It was not really about money.
@@Sehlan-vi9lh If the English had not attacked the possessions in America and Spain or helped the rebels in Flanders Felipe, no matter how Catholic he was, would not have decided to carry out the invasion.
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@@arnijulian6241
The Great and Happy Armada of 1588 lost 3 galleons (San Salvador, Nuestra Señora del Rosario and La Girona) and 32 armed transport ships, in addition to about 10,000 men.
The fleet was not complete as it needed the space to embark the Flanders troops, that finally did not board.
The English counterarmada of 1589 lost 40+ ships and about 13,000 men.
Both expeditions can be considered a complete failure, failing to achieve any of their objectives, although the English victory of 1588 is more relevant as it allowed the country to survive, while Spain's survival was never in danger.
English propaganda, magnifying its victories of the time and hiding its defeats, does not make us trust precisely the data they offer us.
I don't see much difference between Spain's efforts to reunite the Iberian Peninsula into a single state and England doing the same in the British Isles, with resistance from the Scots and Irish.
Remember that it is not those who want to insult, but those who can, and your offensive language simply makes you look childish.
Please, pronounce Coruña correctly
You are misportraying the importance of the spanish armada. We can read the papal bulls. Ive never even heard it claimed they were uncontested on the water. What nonsense are they teaching now? Pure catholic propaganda.
It's funny how many times the aftermath of the Spanish Armada is casted as the moment England started overtaking Spain as a global empire. When in reality, and as seen on this video, nothing really changed geopolitically speaking. This war was one of the biggest nothing burguers in world's history.
Yep
Actually the change avoided is the story. If England had been conquered one could easily project the end of Protestantism and the smothering embrace of the Catholic Church as a government, not religion. One could also argue that the English colonies in North America would have been taken by the Spanish or French. So the continuation of Elizabeth was a step on a path that would be very different today if Spain had won. The loss of the English Armada in way assured England would look over seas not at Europe.
Well, geographically moronic war turned into a blunder on both sides, who could have expected that, huh?😅
To specify how it looks, imagine that in early 19th century UK and Spain had sailed to Alaska to fight for rights to US west coast that they can barely reach and would never afford to enforce their rules upon?
I think it was literally the start of the British empire - the largest empire in world history
@@krichardj. Also the Spanish kinda won, or at least the peace treaty was better for them.
This video honors you, I believe this is the only documentary in English that deals in depth with this important historical event.
Us Hispanics need to have more of our history in English. When I argue with Anglo Supremacists they love to throw the Armada at me. I throw back the English Armada or Isla Flores (1591) back at them. They claim I made it up.
Santiago y Cierra España! The treaty of London was favorable to Spain.
Santiago y Cierra España!
Viva España!
Viva Hispano-America!
Viva la Filipinas!
Viva Hispanidad!
Viva Cristo Rey!
As someone from America, keep us out of your vivas
@@RedWolf75 I agree with almost everything, except for the hurray for Hispanidad, Hispanic-America and the Philippines. Just long live Spain!
@@ImperatorHispania
It was all Spain at one time anyways! 😂
Anyway glad that the history of our ancestors is getting out! I'm tired of the Black legend and Anglo Supremacists nonsense.
Have a good one!
I've seen a few, but they really are far less popular. It should be noted that some i saw were also laced with things that really weren't true, which rather reduced the legitimacy of videos covering an actual historical event.
Nice to see this video. Most people only focus on the Spanish armada that got defeated but this expedition right after from the English side was quite the failure. While Francis Drake was key for defending England against the Spanish armada, much of his career after that was pretty damn unimpressive.
Thanks for all these late 16th century videos! I find this era very interesting and I hope we will go into the 17th century as well.
bueno "hombre" Francis "el Drake" como era conocido aqui siglos atras ya despues de la contrarmada ya no era aquel jovencito impetuoso ademas que en America nuestros antepasados ya habian aprendido la leccion de como fortificarse mejor ante los ataques piratas
que lamentablemente se siguieron dando mucho tiempo despues de la muerte de el drake
Drake was kinda representative of the English as a whole of that time period. Solid at repelling attacks and engaging in smaller scale hit and run tactics. But horrible at initiating in large scale assaults/invasions. This entire fiasco was English hubris. Elizabeth seemed to believe their defeat of the Spanish Armada (which included a great deal of dumb luck) somehow translated to England being capable of taking on the full weight of the Spanish Empire on Spanish turf. England was nowhere close to having the men and resources to accomplish that during Elizabeth's reign. Even if England had somehow pulled off their initial objectives, the war still would have turned into a war of attrition in Portugal that England couldn't have sustained long-term.
Defeated? Our armada wasnt defeated lol. A storm made the invasion imposible. The brits had 0 chance to defend themselves and they didnt, a storm did the job not the god damn brits. Defeated... pff
He lost his woman to another.
Drake being key for defending England is not what his comrades of 1588 thought
Thank you from Spain! This is an honest video, against Leyenda Negra (Black Legend) or propaganda in both sides. Actually, Maria Pita is a real hero in La Coruña and a central square of the city was named like her in tribute and praise
“Nobody expects the Spanish infiltration” 😂😂😂 that was a good one
I literally laughed out loud.
Nobody expects the Spanish infiltration. Our chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and dare. That’s two weapons. Our two chief weapons are surprise and dare and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope. …
They were portuguese loyal to the spanish king though
agradezco a Kings and generals por este documental muy detallado lo cual ayude a cesar de una vez con los lloriqueos de mis compatriotas que piensan que su canal solo difunde leyendas negras sobre el imperio español
debo decir que se ve la diferencia en la educacion de ambas "partes del conflicto" me explico, en la seccion de comentarios sobre el video de la armada española hace 2 semanas no encontraras ningun ingles burlandose sobre lo que les sucedio a los españoles hace mas de 4 siglos,eso si ellos ensalzan las hazañas de sus antepasados pero sin burlarse de sus "enemigos"
algo que me parece bien y comprensible
cosa muy distinta con lo que sucede con mis compatriotas españoles donde ingresan en cada video sobre el conflicto de inglaterra y españa para burlarse sobre las penalidades que pasaron los ingleses
saludos cordiales
@@hugopontevedra ai, si, por Deus! Sempre andan coa matraca esa. Agradezo moitísimo o teu comentario. Notase que algúns andan mal de lecturas serias sobre este tema.
@@hugopontevedra la tradicion estoica inglesa contrasta con nuestro patriotismo histrionico, por eso ellos estan donde estan y nosotros estamos donde estamos
"No one expects the Spanish Infiltration!" Has got to be one of the best off-hand one-liners I've heard from this channel, bless you all MP fans!
Agreed
Just to add that the "Spanish infiltration" was known as encamisada, from camisa = shirt. Very common tactic of the spanish army at the time. They did these infiltrations at night, removing all armour and wearing only their shirts to move silently and be easily recognisable by their mates, I think they didn't take any firearms, only bladed weapons. It was, obviously, very unexpected :)
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The fact that everyone knows about the Spanish Armada and even in my country (Spain) no one knows about this is astonishing at best, and quite embarrassing honestly
there is an immense amount of information on the counter-armada, the problem is that it is not translated into English, which is the current world language
I think it's because the failure of the Spanish Armada was one of the most significant single events in human history.
Turning the course of the Huguenot Wars, and assisting the Dutch Revolt, it arrested Habsburg conquest of W. Europe, allowing the 30yrs War to end with the independence of Western nations (see Westphalian Sovereignty).
Had Philip listened to his own Admirals, and landed in Wales or Ireland first, it could've gone the other way around. Europe would have become entirely Habsburg (for a few centuries anyway), and the rest of the World would look very different right now.
In contrast, the failure of the English Armada had little impact on anything. Or do we really think Elizabeth seriously hoped to conquer Spain? 🤔
los españoles somos asi, hay grandes navegantes como Blas de Lezo con docenas de victorias (Cartagena de Indias) y nadie sabe quien es, Nelson sim embargo tiene una estatua en el centro de Londres
@@josemunnoz hay cientos de videos sobre blas de leso
incluso en ingles este canal le dedico uno sobre el asedio a cartagenas
@@hugopontevedrapero que yo sepa la unica estatua de Blas de Lezo esta en la misma Cartagena de Indias, no hay ninguna en España.
Finally, a documentary on the Counter-Armada in English, this tends to be overlooked in the Anglosphere, with the Spanish Armada of 1588 taking major focus, similarly, the English victories at Crecy, Poitiers and Agincourt also receives the same overemphasis, despite France winning the Hundred Years War. The film "Elizabeth the Golden Age" is a good example of Elizabethan propaganda being repurposed for a modern audience, where _ONLY_ England stood to a foreign rogue power, and saved the cause with gallant and force of arms. Incidentally, it would be the Dutch who would supercede the Spanish as the main naval power, perhaps Kings and Generals could make videos on the Anglo-Dutch Wars, this is also a fascinating topic.
But the other Spanish armadas (3 failed armadas sent against Elizabethan England) are even lesser known than the English armada. Even the pro-Elizabeth film which didn’t mention the English armada also didn’t mention the second and third Spanish armadas.
As for the HYW, the reason those victories get a lot of attention is because England was a country with a much smaller population, and they put up a strong fight against a powerful kingdom on their own turf. They are famous for being victories against the odds and with Henry V there’s the what if he lived factor to consider as he was set to became the king of France and was an undefeated commander.
I know France also won battles against the odds like Patay, but in terms of population and economy medieval France had much more resources than England.
Crecy, Poitier and Agincourt get a lot of attention (rightly so, they’re all annihilations against the odds) they aren’t over represented so much as French victories are under represented. However, I’d say most (or at least many) people who have heard of Agincourt have also heard of Joan of Arc.
You aren’t wrong though that Britain focuses more on its successes than defeats.
@@archivesoffantasy5560Essex-raleigh expedition is forgotten, (Spanish victory)
@@archivesoffantasy5560Have you ever heard of the 20,000 English deaths in the so-called War of Jenkins' Ear, or in Spanish, Guerra de Asiento? 20,000 English soldiers died Vs 4,500 Spanish dead, 407 English ships sunk, Vs 189 Spanish. Uppps. Blas de Lezo. The English crown had absurdly ordered that thousands of English coins be minted with the image of the English admiral Edward Vernon on one side receiving the crown of the viceroyalty of the Spanish Indies on one side. England lost the war and was humiliated in combat by the commander "halfman" Blas de Lezo. Only in that disastrous English attempt to take Cartagena de Indias did 4,400 Englishmen fall. Oh. Add and continue.
_In the Medieval period, one out of every four people in Europe were French. France was the superpower on the continental land mass with a very large population. What was Elizabethan England in the 1500s? Two million people. It was regarded by the rest of the world as barbarous, on the outer edge of barbarity. The English stood up to King Philip of Spain - who owned the Netherlands. But within Europe Britain will become one of the great civilizing powers of the world._
_What was the England of Marlborough - the mid 1600s to the early 1700s? England had 8 million, France had 25 million which was larger than Russia. The Duke of Marlborough defeated the French who wanted to take control of France and Spain and her colonies, and hence be a European megapower._
_Later, England was 10 million with Napoleon's France having 30 million, the fourth largest population in the world, and he also had most of Europe. The British took him on, gathering small allies, and won. The British stood up to practically all the old world - and tamed all the new. Later, Hitler and his allies amounted to 180 million, and the occupied countries on top. Again the British took him on, gathering allies and won._
_You cannot be so small that you are negligible. Size and wealth are not so important, as courage and faith._
- Harold McMillan
@@johnburns4017 my friend, england losted the spanish succesion war as the main goal of the english, the french bourbons take the spanish throne, was not achieved. france and spain won that war and formed a formidable block of power all the 18th century. the fact that one century later the british defeated france and spain to become the world superpower for 100 years do not change the fact that england lost the spanish succesion war.
This invasion left to this day a saying here in Portugal: since then, we call false friends as _Amigos de Peniche_ (Friends from Peniche), since the English Army was first expected to come as friends, only to then loot several villages and towns, and ultimately desert the cause of D. António.
Beautiful episode, regarding a rather obscure episode from my country, for which I thank K&G.
Note: Portugal was indeed annexed by the Spanish Habsburgs, and D. Filipe II of Spain, I of Portugal, did have a just claim to the Portuguese throne, since he was grandson of the Portuguese king D. Manuel I, through his mother the Portuguese Infanta D. Isabel. The other two claimants (a granddaughter of king D. Manuel I, D. Catarina, married to the Duke of Bragança, and the mentioned D. António) did not have not nearly enough power or prestige to gain the upper hand - although it would be a Duke of Bragança who would restore independence in 1640.
D. Filipe II of Spain, I of Portugal, was, as so, crowned king of Portugal in the Cortes of Tomar, in 1580, granting a lot of liberties regarding to the autonomous government of the kingdom of Portugal and its overseas Empire. In the Habsburg coat of arms, the Portuguese national shield was added in a place of honor - the _Abismo do Chefe_ (Chief's Abyss), and to this day we always refer to the 3 Habsburg kings of Portugal by their number as Spanish kings (D. Filipe II, III, and IV) and as Portuguese kings (D. Filipe I, II, and III). These concessions facilitated a peaceful annexation - contrary to what happened in the interegnum of 1383/85.
It was his son and grandson's lack of respect to these concessions that ultimately led the Portuguese into open revolt, culminating in the Revolution of December 1st, 1640, and the _Guerra da Restauração_ (Restoration War) that lasted until 1668, effectively ending the Iberian Union.
It's baffling how anyone would think the Portuguese nobles would rise against the king that themselves had proclaimed, only to support the pawn of foreign PROTESTANT invaders.
where did the English loot portuguese villages? im curious cant find anything on it
@@a2falcone most nobles weren't moved by patriotism - something that already happened in the 1383-85 interegnum.
For most of them, a union with Spain was quite lucrative, since it opened vast markets in the Americas. By the time of the Restoration of Independence, the soon to be King of Portugal, the Duke of Bragança, together with his wife the daughter of the Duke of Medina-Sidónia, were insanely rich.
Legend says that she, D. Luísa de Gusmão, had to encourage her husband to accept the risk of the Revolution, by stating "I'd rather be queen for a day, than a duchess the rest of my life!" - that's the spirit!
Mind also that those were still the days of the Holly Inquisition here in the Iberian Peninsula. Dark days, when questioning the Catholic Church was a one way ticket to burn in the stick...
Not to be forgoten either the disaster that engulfed the Portuguese Army in the Battle of Alcácer Quibir in 1578, and the disaster where the Portuguese Navy was envolved within the Invincible Armada, something that crippled any Portuguese chance of response against the might of Spain in that period.
@@hailvictory9698 Around the area where they disembarked.
Don't worry, Englishmen came back and died liberating Portugal 230 years later. What local saying do you have for that?
A masterpiece that summarizes overlooked events in a short time. Early modern England should be considered more
Great quality video. At last, a non-Spanish video that tells the story of the English counter-armada.
Kudos to you and all my respect.
I had never even heard of this battle. I thought everything ended with the Spanish Armada.
Another reason why I love Kings and Generals. 👍💪👊
It also shows how the spaniards have always been very tough hombres throughout their history.
@@Trancymind The English were also "tough hombres" when they were well prepared and with good discipline.
just watch the video that this same author made about the third and last siege of Gibraltar.
Lo bueno es que esta vez nuestros antepasados estuvieron bien preparados y con ganas de devolverles el favor que nos hicieron el año anterior
Here is the link about that siege
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=great+siege+of+gibraltar
@@hugopontevedrael mismo autor italiano. Hombre, gracias por darte cuenta. Acaba de salir otro video por el italiano, sobre la 2a y 3a Armada. Y hace un par de semanas acabò de escribir el nuevo episodio sobre la 4a Armada, y la invasiòn de Irlanda por Don Juan del Àguila. Buen provecho.
@@arnaldoteodorani277 no entiendo a que se refiere sobre "agente del reino unido" es solo sarcasmo hombre
Nothing ended, the spanish empire resisted until the rise of the USA empire with the war in Cuba in 19th century.
It calls my attention that a British TH-cam channel would make a video about a British defeat , which was what the Drake-Norris expedition was , so kudos for the Brits for not only talking about victories.
They are not British. I first thought they were Turkish, because they were focused on Ottoman history a lot, but Google says they are Canadians and one of them is of Azerbaijani origin
@@romanpopyk Okay , thank you . Because the narrator was British and the name of the channel was in English I just assumed it was a British TH-cam channel
There are English loses on this channel, what the fuck are you talking about
What planet you live on? The British lose every battle until the last one, and are proud of it.
@@jfinn3575 I live on planet earth .
It's refreshing to see a British channel delve into historical defeats like the Drake-Norris expedition, often overshadowed by the Spanish Armada's fame. It's a testament to the channel's commitment to a balanced portrayal of history.
I am from Corunna, thank you for this excellent video!
It's a shame the English counter armada isn't taught in England or the wider UK. Good thing you're here to talk about these events in-depth
Why isn't taught in England ??? Because it's were shameful lost ?
@@aliakbari8797 Idk. Why aren't you taught about Korea and Vietnam?
@@oliversherman2414 what the question??? Korea and Vietnam isn't my history that's why I must learn ??
@@aliakbari8797 I assumed you're American. Where are you from?
@@oliversherman2414 from Central Asia
Nice video! Spanish history is so rich
Its important to note that England wasn't known a naval power by this point, and was basically living on minimum wage. The concept of a counter armada against Spain at the zenith of its wealth and power was a terrible move which did more damage to England that the armada did.
I mean, the english were defeated even when they were the naval power and Spain was the fallen one. Cartagena and Buenos Aires prove this.
@@franciscoamezcua6338 huh?? the fact that we're having this conversation in english proves otherwise lmao
also, real english dominance wasn't until post-napoleon. at that point, spain was delegated to a lesser power, unable to cling onto their status as a great power even. not to mention that the gap only widened further, english zenith would've been right around WW1, or slightly before. at which point, spain was pathetic in comparison
@@594-d9b The reason why we speak English is that it is a straightforward language that is easy to learn.
@@idontgetit2195 aw that's not quite right, i'm sure you can figure it out once you learn and apply critical thinking!
@@idontgetit2195 English is one of the least straightforward languages and one of the hardest to learn to non-native speakers.
I have to agree that this part of the conflict between Spain and England is definitely underreported. I was unaware of this counterstrike prior to this video. I had, for the most part, only been aware of Elizabeth I's privateer sanctioned war against Spanish naval vessels. Thanks for the informative and (as always) greatly detailed depiction of this series of historical events.
Yes the Spanish Armada was not a unprovoked attack. It was brought on by Piracy. Much life when the USA attacked the Barbary coast.
Fun fact: One of the men defending Lisbon from the English atack was Duke Teodósio of Bragança, father of the future king João IV of Portugal who would later reclaim the kingdom's independence and end Spanish rule. Teodósio was also King Sebastião's squire during the disastrous battle of Alcacer Quibir when he was just 10 years old. Impressed with the bravery of such a young boy the Morrocan sultan allowed the kid to go home without a ransom being paid.
anyway the wife of the former Duke of Braganza, Catarina, was the real heir of king Henrique I crown, being a descendent of a male son of Manuel I, when Filipe II of Spain was a descendent of a Manuel I daughter, the empress Isabel, wife of Charles V. Wisely Catarina preferred to contemporize instead to risk all in a war with her cousin. Her grandson ascended to the throne in 1640.
He sure was a great soldier! But Portugal became independent in 1640, because Spain was at war simultaneously in 1640-1668 throughout the planet, against France, England, Protestant Germany, the Netherlands, the Turkish Empire, Denmark, Sweden, Portugal, Morocco, Berber pirates, Filipino Moors, Japanese pirates. , Chinese pirates, Mapuches from Chile and Apaches from the Great Plains. We were fighting the English and the Dutch in the Caribbean, Atlantic, Mediterranean, Channel of England and Pacific. And we had to beat France in Italy, Catalonia and the Spanish Netherlands. In the midst of that context we could not send the best armies to Portugal. Surely, in that kind of context, the Germans lost to Serbia in WW1, and to some other country in WW2. But I understand that for Portugal it was an important date, and they really won those battles. But always within a context where Spain was trying to stop the Protestant expansion, which had the objective of invading Rome, Madrid, Lisbon and Vienna, destroying Catholicism, Mediterranean culture and our empires in the world. Spain had to invade Germany several times (southern Germany and the Palatinate are Catholic). In Italy we had to build 50 fortresses to stop the Turks. We had to invade Paris, so that the French would become Catholic, in 1590. It is a more complex war than it seems. Not only sell spices from the Far East.
He was TEN? Boy, would he have been traumatised.
Elizabeth I dropped the ball with this invasion. She should have stuck to using her navy to disrupting Spanish shipping and funding proxy wars. A full scale invasion is always iffy business, and she clearly did not have the military resources to pull this off.
She really did
Perhaps, however it should be remembered that her commanders ignored Elizabeth's orders, so maybe the blame should be put on them. I'm not saying they would have been successful had they followed her majesty's orders, but there is that now "what if?" her commanders had done what they were ordered to do in the first place.
women ☕
@@skyden24195 That is true. Drake was a talented Admiral, but he was a pirate whose main motivation was personal gain. The land invasion is where I think she made a mistake. England’s army was not much to speak of, but her navy and intelligence service was first rate. Drake was best used to plunder Spanish ships and a guerilla type of warfare at sea, not a land invasion. Her Spymaster Francis Walsingham arguably had the best intelligence service in Europe. And she funded proxy wars in the Low Countries against Spain. When she stuck to that strategy, she was successful. With the land invasion, she tried the same strategy that Philip II attempted with the Armada invasion, and it failed. As they say, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
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Spain beat the English in several naval engagements after this. England was a backward nation fighting the most powerful nation on Earth. Read the treaty of London, Spain won the war
Great video! It's nice to see this not very widely known story. Keep up the good work!
footnote: On June 5, when morning broke, Bazán's galleys noticed the enemy's movements and fired, waking up Lisbon. The Spaniards began pursuing after concluding that the enemy's withdrawal was real and not a ruse. All the while, the English infantry firing was followed by the galleys. Sancho Bravo and Alarcón attacked the English column as they got closer to Cascais, killing hundreds more people.
Awesome video. Can you believe everyone in Coruña knows about that battle but nobody knows about it's significance? Most people think a couple of English pirate ships attacked and that was it...
@@666xurxo ese es uno mas de los que creen en modernos pseudohistoriadores que le han dicho que nuestro pais y el mundo entero no quieren que sepamos nuestra propia historia
Thank you so much honest english guy. Thats something i dont say too often...
As an English person who is interested in a board range of history, I am disappointed that I have not heard of this before. But happy to have found your video.
Excellent work with the two videos, I think you are the only TH-cam channel that has explained the two armadas, in the most objective way possible, especially since the second one is totally forgotten when the subject is talked about. Seeing the result of the two Invasion armies, it is incomprehensible how there are people who claim victory for one of the two sides, the two naval campaign were a resounding failure and only served to waste money, ships and thousands of soldiers' lives; In the end, the war ended without any advantage for both sides, it was practically as if nothing had happened, I think the only ones who benefited from this conflict were the Dutch rebels (who relieved the pressure on their territory, which helped them to recover with Maurice of Nassau later, at least until Spinola arrived to reinforce the Tercios of Flanders) and the French who supported King Henry IV (who, with the Spanish fleet occupied and Farnese dead of illness, managed to win the throne of France ), since this distraction allowed them to establish themselves in power, and then become the worst rivals of Spain and England in the following century (the French in the Thirty Years' War and the Dutch in the wars against England later).
Good Spanish generals. Thanks for the video.
Thank you very much for given a piece of the Portuguese history. Fun fact due to this invasion from England there is a idiomatic expression in portuguese language. The idiomatic expression is amigo de Peniche the litteral translation is Friend of Peniche. It means a false friend , a disloyal partner who cannot be trusted.
Irmã, I know we couldn't not be trusted. We were extremely hungry for power 😅
But to trust the perfidious pirates? That's letting the entirety of Latin Europe down...
we literally helped you other times. Where were you in ww2?
@@commando4481 Official we were a neutral country except East Timor. This colony was ocupy by Australia, Holand and Japan. In Azores we allowed to established allied base. The Base das Lajes which
became quite famous during the second war of Iraq. For Madeira Island, Portugal received 2,500 evacuees from Gibraltar.
In Estoril and Lisbon there was full of spies from both sides. In fact the Casino Royale by Ian Fleming is inspered his experience in Estoril as member Naval Intelligence Division (NID). There were portuguese fought in the American army, French resistence and Blaue Division of the Wehrmacht. Additionnally, Portuguese died in various concentration camps. We sold Wolframite to England and Germany. we received refuges in Portugal and was quite a chok because Portugal was very conservety socity. Althought the portuguese goverment didn't want any Jews refugess, some reached Portugal, thank to them they introduzed to the Portuguese cuisine, Berliner. Aristides de Sousa Mendes, Carlos Sampaio Garrido , José Brito Mendes and Priest Joaquim Carreira are consider Righteous Among the Nations. Additionally, there were dog fights between British and german planes. Also in a In an aide-mémoire of 5 September 1939, the British government confirmed the neutrality of Portugal.
Portugal was neutral, thank god. Was a blessing for Churchill aims to harass the III Reich.
More, the neutrality of the entire Iberian Peninsula saved the UK to loose Gibraltar and a German landing in the western North Africa, provoking the adhesion of Vichy's France to the Axis. Malta would fallen due the closure of the Mediterranean Sea and Mussolini would parade in the Cairo on his white horse. Consequences? Some:
Imagine Great-Admiral Doenitz U-boots controlling all the Portuguese coast.
Imagine that Turkey would join the Axis, more revolts against the British rule in Iraq, the defection of Persia and the absolute Axis control of the entire Middle East. More, a different Barbarossa Operation including a German-Turkish assault in the Caucasus south front.
Think about it. London should have a statue dedicated to Salazar who realised to convince Franco to not join the Axis.
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@@commando4481 I don't understand, why should the Portuguese care about the Second World War?
I'm so glad that finally someone talks about this
Yeeeees finally, I've been waiting forever for a mainstream history channel to do a video on this. It almost never gets talked about in the English speaking world.
Like many of the comments have said, England wasn't a world power at this rate. It was starting to become one, but it had a smaller population compared to Spain, who was its height of power here.
This episode was dope and hilarious! great job
Un video hecho por un anglo que explica el desastre de la contra-armada inglesa, eso está bien ya que así no ocultan su historia negativa. El desastre y las pérdidas de la contra-armada inglesa fue mucho más grande que la Felicísima Armada (éste fue el verdadero nombre que le día el rey Felipe II).
I hadn’t learned about this before. Thanks so much Kings & Generals!
Are you from Spain ????
because there are hundreds of videos, conferences,articles in magazines and newspapers in Spanish of course
about this topic
@@hugopontevedra, Official British history has never hesitated to grossly minimize or outright erase defeats. This is a very clear example, it is not the only one.
@@enekoeneko69 eso es lo que crees porque no has leido a historiadores ingleses
tampoco veo quee se hagan documentales en españa sobre el tercer asedio de gibraltar que fracaso miserablemente
Porque los ingleses querian hacer documentales sobre sus fracasos si otros paises no lo hacen ??
Historically, the greatest contempt for the British fighting man was from his own side. The fight against the Armada reflects this. British sailors wounded in the battle were left to rot on the beaches, given no help with their wounds or food for their bellies.
"Up to half the sailors have succumbed to disease"
Disease is the deadliest combatant in history. A regular breaker of armies and navies.
When some non spaniard people reads something about Blas De Lezo it will blow their minds, it's incredible how there are no films about this amazing admiral.
Nice to see the Kingdom of Navarre actually shown on the map - usually it's omitted after the loss of the section of the kingdom south of the Pyrenees. Granted, it would come under a personal union with France when Henry of Navarre ascended the French throne less than a month after the end of the main events of the video.
Thanks for covering this one! I always wanted a video on this misadventure.
"On May the 4th, the Spanish Empire struck back." I see what you did there. The date is right too!
English Queen: Oh no my fleet!
The spanish: Primera vez?
Translation:
The Spanish: First time?
Seeing how dominant the Spanish were in land engagements, we can see how much danger England was in from the Spanish Armada and why it was so important that they did everything they could to break up the fleet and prevent a landing.
This is a fact , had Spain been able to board their Army of Flanders and then make a successful landing in England , there would have been very little the English could have done to stop them.
The Spanish tercios during those times were unbeatable.
"Fuentes politely ignored the challenge, as he had some knowledge of some certain skilled called STRATEGY..."hahahhahahaha
Love this!
Although it hurts the English to admit, at that time England was a second-rate player. The enemies of the Spanish Empire were France on land, the Netherlands on the sea and the Ottoman Empire in the Mediterranean. The fundamental reason for invading England was to provide the Spanish fleet with ports from which to blockade the Netherlands and facilitate the transportation of the Tercios to Flanders. There is an expression in Spanish that says "put a pike in Flanders" and that means something very expensive. To go to Flanders, the Spanish Tercios had to be transported by sea to Italy, cross the Alps and then, following the so-called Spanish road that was formed by the possessions of the House of Burgundy, reach Flanders bordering the French border. Great Britain only became a major maritime power after the Anglo-Dutch Wars. The Netherlands was able to resist the Spanish empire and end up defeating it for two reasons: the support received from the Protestant powers and also from France and above all because of its economy, the Netherlands was the first nation where capitalism developed, while the Spanish Empire It still functioned economically as in the Middle Ages
During the 1500s? The Netherlands wasn't even a proper country at that time. I'm pretty sure it didn't become a naval power until the 1600s
@@JJaqn05 During the 15th century the only powers in Europe were the Spanish Empire and the Ottoman Empire. The rebellion of the United Provinces in the mid-15th century was the Vietnam of the Spanish Empire, a war that could not be won, a true logistical madness but in which it was necessary to continue fighting based on what the Americans called the politics of the game domino. Spain's big problem at sea was not the English pirates, in 300 years only two convoys of the Indies fleet were captured, the biggest problem was the arrival of the Dutch to the Far East and the taking of part of the Portuguese colonies , when Portugal was united to Spain, the Dutch even settled in Brazil. After the decline of the Spanish Empire, the power that took over was France with Cardinal Richelieu. England only began to appear as a great power after the War of the Spanish Succession and its commercial and maritime rival was the Netherlands.
Best on TH-cam. Yes you are
Very interesting. I never have heard one word of this history. I suspect that the ignominious English defeat was the cause of this.
Very interesting video. I learned a lot.
Oh my Lord, another fantastic K&G production! It should be illegal to drop this many grade a productions in a week!
Wow!! Great video. Bringing alive unknown history to me is super interesting!! THX.
Interessantissimo. Sui libri di storia scolastici si parla solo della sconfitta dell'Armada, ma non di questa disastrosa sconfitta inglese. Ah, la propaganda storiografica..
Very cool and excellent piece of knowledge
Thank you for sharing this
Finally a channel in English talking about this.
recuerdo alla por el año 2000 que "the history channel" o "Biography" by A & E,creo que fue este ultimo
hizo un video sobre la vida de francis drake centrandose principalmente en la "armada invencible" pero en ese mismo video tambien hablo sobre el desastre de la contrarmada fue un excelente documental lastima que no la pueda encontrar en youtube
@@hugopontevedra ¿Y? Yo me refiero a que ningún otro canal de habla inglesa habia explicado el conflicto con tanto detalle y profundidad. Un comentario en un video sobre la armada invencible no es nada.
@@jorgemejiasp creo que no me expresé bien en ese vídeo del año 2000 si le dieron un tiempo considerable a la contraarmsda
@@hugopontevedra De acuerdo, pero no era un video de la contraarmada bien explicado de principio a fin. Sin embargo vas a ver 200 videos en inglés y en español hablando de la armada Española. Mi punto es ese.
@@jorgemejiasp no su punto era que y cito textualmente:
"Finally a channel in English talking about this."
lo cual le he dicho que no es asi es probable que haya mas documentales antiguos que hablen de ese tema pero esten archivados
y el asunto de porque no se habla mucho de la contraarmada en ingles y mas si de la felicisima armada es porque esta ultima tenia como objetivo la conquista del pais un evento extraordinario
a diferencia de la contrarmada que tenia como objetivo no tomar otro pais sino inflingirle un mayor daño
Thank God some big historical channel finally made a video about this
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
The level of incompetence was realy unmatched 😂😂
Ok, now I apologize for saying no one covers this event. Great work¡
Please mention the Battle of Cape Celidonia when 5 new Spanish galleons defeated the entire Ottoman armada, which was 10 times bigger or the story of fort mose the first free black city in Florida as part of the Spanish empire
I never knew these events before. I learned something new.
Es increíble cómo se manipula la historia. En el caso de la visión anglosajona, omitiendo convenientemente sus derrotas y exagerando las victorias sobre España. La hegemonía cultural anglosajona es tal que no sólo ha reescrito su propia historia, adoctrinando a su propia gente, a través de la educación y del propio hollywood, sino que ha conseguido que los propios españoles y el resto de europeos tengamos una visión de la historia filtrada por esa hegemonía cultural anglosajona. Sólo desde hace relativamente poco, no más de 20 años, que muchos historiadores hispanos e hispanistas de todo el mundo, han podido evidenciar esta manipulación que la oficialidad nos sigue vendiendo incluso en la propia España.
19:20 oh my god what a burn!
Spanish history is extremely unknown for some reason, people seem to forget spain was the first superpower for 2 centuries and only backed down in 1750, 10 years after they had sank the royal navy of the Caribbean in war of Jenkins ear
Spain was strong until the death of Charles III
You would say 3 Centuries from 1500 until 1800. After the defeat of British Navy in Cartagena de Indias 1741 aprox by Blas de Lezo ...the British were also defeted by Spain along several places for the independence of 13 Colonies such Mobila, Batón Rouge, Pensacola by Bernardo Gálvez, San Luis Illinois by Fernando Leyva at Fort San Carlos, dozens of supply Ships in the middle of Atlantic ocean by Almirall Cordova....all of these Battle occurred about 1780 when Spain was still destroying British army.
Just one thing, galleys main artillery was on the bow, not on the sides.
Now we can talk about James Cook, a british that "discover" the Pacific sea for the British. But they don't know that the British stole the Spanish maps in Manila ( Philippines). The Pacific sea was called "the Spanish lake".
Please a video about the " galeon de manila".
And remember that Madrid may be was the capital of the Spanish empire, but the true capital was Mexico, in new Spain. The center of the empire, between "galeon de manila" and "flota de indias".
Thanks for the video, not always is black legend.
Doesn’t change the fact that he discovered the Pacific sea for the British. It really isn’t that deep honestly.
@@imperialinquisition6006 Vasco Núñez de Balboa
@@imperialinquisition6006well the pacific was already known by the Spanish and Portuguese, and as it’s with universities in the new world and overall urban development, the British got it later
Finally!!
7:00 gave me chills
Very informative💯
4:40 English to Dutch: thank you for your money investment, now I'm gonna need those boats of yours as well...
Thanks for the info, completely foreign topic for me. Gold as all of your docs so far!
The power of American cinema that made everyone believe that the English just won
Most British and US history is built on propaganda lies.
I love this new humorous style of video. The small jokes are absolutely great ❤🎉
The Spanish truly were some of the toughest bravest men in history. Crazy to think they were a powerhouse and a force to be reckoned with back in their heydays.
no lo fuimos tanto cuando 4 gatos musulmanes tomaron casi toda la peninsula y nos tomo casi 8 siglos recuperarlo
They were, and not long ago, they finally ended the rconquista, so they became seasoned military in Lans and sea
"Nobody expects the Spanish Infiltration" was hilarious
The peace treaty was badly received by the English who viewed the terms as humiliating. England was forced to stop supporting their Dutch allies and its piracy of Spanish treasure fleets. But what cannot be ignored is that by maintaining its independence, England would *eventually* go on to becoming a major imperial power of its own, albeit not immediately.
Your content is SUPER high quality
Despite the pride the British have in the British Empire, the British were remarkably unsuccessful in seizing Spanish territory. Just Jamaica in 1645, Gibraltar in 1704, & other small territories. British twice in 1806 & 1807 failed to take Rio de La Plata.
British and US history is built on propaganda lies.
The English sailors where forbidden from leaving their ships after fighting the Spanish. The reason being that Elizabeth 1st had no intention of paying them for their services. They knew that they would perish on their ships.
I read about this in a history part in a newspaper. It seemed that the brits whated to keep it quiet from history. As I never seen mentioned in documentary or books. It's about time someone bought this part of British history. So we'll done for bringing this up. 👽👍
the same reason we dont want the world knows about the disaster of the siege of Gibraltar
For British and English history it isn't that important. It didn't change the status quo, and even had it been a success I doubt it would change much, meanwhile the Spanish armada could have changed the world if it succeeded.
Always the black legend againts the spaniards..... It was Spain againts the word in those times.
It's the same with the battle of , Cartagena de Indias in 1741. What could be the biggest defeat in Royal Navy history , the Brits don't talk about that.
@@alfredosenalle9284 why would they do that if we don't talk of the Siege of Gibraltar
5:55 now that may just be the sneakiest reference I did ever stumble upon 😂
Whether that was intentional or not, good catch. I certainly would have never noticed hadn't you mentioned it.
@@SeptimoBasico-nu8uhIt was intentional
@@arnaldoteodorani277Oh, ok then, great to know.
@@SeptimoBasico-nu8uh It should be an established tradition in historiography. Whenever something happens on May the Fourth, a Star Wars reference should be smuggled in.
@@arnaldoteodorani277 that is an excellent policy.
I will never get used to Devon using the most professional documentary voice while quoting "Spanish Inquisition" memes.
I love it.
Fun fact: in spains national day theres a moment of silence, and a song called death is not the end where we honour all the spaniards of history who have fought to defend their motherland, that includes the portuguese we see in the video and people from other territories such american natives, philipines etc...
great history learning....
England: "We'll just omit this from the books..."
True. We all heard about Elizabeth's defeat of the Spanish Armada, and yet nearly no one mentions her failed attempt afterwards.
I hate the two Elizabeth movies because they portray her as this very competent monarch with practically no flaws, while the Catholics were snobbish and incompetent fanatics.
Many other things have been omitted from history , like the Russian invasion of Paris and capture of Napoleon, and the massive Run away episode in the Ardenes ww2 when the English expeditionary force was guarding this access into France and the Germans broke in unexpectedly, allowing the Nazis to take over the Marginot line from behind and the expeditionary force escape to Dunkerque , reason why De Gold hated. The English as it was a shameful betrayal
There is a much, much bigger naval disaster that still gets intentionally omitted from the school curriculum, I say "intentionally" because it was the biggest event recorded in Samuel Pepys's diaries; the other events in it, the plague, the fire, are frequently taught to children through his diaries but utter silence about the disaster in the Medway that he had major personal involvement with. The Dutch navy broke through the inadequate defences there and towed away the best of the English navy without having to fire a shot. No British kid is allowed to hear about that🙂
agradezco a Kings and generals por este documental muy detallado lo cual ayude a cesar de una vez con los lloriqueos de mis compatriotas que piensan que su canal solo difunde leyendas negras sobre el imperio español
debo decir que se ve la diferencia en la educacion de ambas "partes del conflicto" me explico, en la seccion de comentarios sobre el video de la armada española hace 2 semanas no encontraras ningun ingles burlandose sobre lo que les sucedio a los españoles hace mas de 4 siglos,eso si ellos ensalzan las hazañas de sus antepasados pero sin burlarse de sus "enemigos"
algo que me parece bien y comprensible
cosa muy distinta con lo que sucede con mis compatriotas españoles donde ingresan en cada video sobre el conflicto de inglaterra y españa para burlarse sobre las penalidades que pasaron los ingleses
saludos cordiales
Cuantos videos has visto de la Armada Inglesa; cuantos videos has visto de derrotas Inglesas no critiques por que no es burla en su gran mayoria y esas criticas muchas veces es por que los videos en ingles casi literalmente no hacen videos ni de sus grandes derrotas ahora mira cuantos videos hay en Español sobre la mal llanada Armada Invencible nombre que popularizemos nosotros a sabiendas de que era una burla a toro pasado de un noble Ingles no exageras y digas que todos son criticas y por cierto los Ingleses no critican a los suyos aunque tengan motivos lo he notado tambien y este no es el caso
Como hispanista estoy de acuerdo contigo, los británicos siempre fueron rivales duros, hay que reconocerlo, y son más patriotas que nosotros, eso admiro de ellos.
@@hugopontevedra Este señor no es español. Podeis revisar sus comentarios de este video y llegar a esa conclusion, no hace falta un master.
Thank you for spreading the word about this, British nationalists too proudly think like the Spanish Armada was the key to the decline of the Spanish Empire when in reality that is an exaggeration.
In the United States Anglo Supremacists use the Armada to claim they are superior to Hispanics.
It's frustrating how overlooked Spain is as a military power in the English speaking world. Spain was the main adversary and match to the Ottomans, the sixteenth century was mainly a contest between them, but English centered history overstates the importance of England at that time.
@@Corvinuswargaming1444 The Spanish were the only European powers that was able to go toe to toe with the Ottoman and win at that time.
@@Arbelot Plus the Spanish navy best the English navy at the battle of la Isla Flores in 1591.
I love you, 20 YEARS I'VE WAITED FOR THIS.
thank you very much, the spanish empire is extremely underrated by the historians, unfair to be honest.
@@Arbelotthey did horrific things lmao are you on crack
*Popular history
It isn't underrated by historians
Great video as per usual ❤
No one expects the Spanish infiltration. I saw what you did there. Well played.
I'd like it again if I could!
Thank you so much for highlighting that less told story of the failed 1589 British counter armada trying to loot the Iberian territories in response to a more known failed Spanish one trying to invade the British isles the previous year !
The Iberian resistance proved to be tenacious & staunch motivated by the sectarian religious zeal of the time between the (Catholic) Iberian defenders & the (Protestant) Anglo - Dutch invaders ; Where the land fought with its people to grant victory to the Iberian side !
The British made that move in retaliation for the 1588 Spanish armada on the British isles & as a reparation endeavor for the economic casualties Britain sustained as a consequence of the failed Spanish invasion attempt !
The British employed pirate tactics of " swift hit , mass plunder & rush run " trying to loot the gold-stocked Spanish treasuries in the nearby coastal ports like " Coruna " in the far northwest tip of the Iberian peninsula BUT they lacked the naval upper hand against a far superior Spanish fleet at the time .
The Spaniards had piled up massive treasures from their colonies in the Americas for roughly a century before the 1589 British counter-armada on the Iberian territories & Spain became the western super power of the time militarily & economically ; while Britain was tracking then its footsteps to the new world & the uncharted territories overseas to catch up with it centuries later !
Still the time for Britain was NOT yet then !
Interesting.
The largest British disaster against Spain was during the Jenkins' Ear War. On April 20th, 1741 a huge fleet of 184 vessels with 27600 soldiers and sailors under the command of Admiral Vernom was smashed in Cartagena de Indias (today Colombia). Half the fleet and men were lost. To cover the disaster the British King forbade to mention it in the history books and some commemorative coins were mint to the celebrate the "victory". In general British are better than Spaniards in self-marketing, but Spain has won more battles to them, than the other way around. Our Empire was truly the largest and most influencial on modern history. The rest is lack of academy and excess of envy and "black legend". 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
British 184 ships vs Spanish 6 ships... and the british lost. Here you have the main reason for hiding the defeat.( and it is not the only time that they are defeated and the result is prohibited from being included in the history books. )
Your empire wasn't the largest and you fell off harder than the UK. Spend your 2% of NATO defence already.
@@obvious-troll Doing a Google search we can see that Spain did not fall more or worse than the United Kingdom. It can also be seen that the Spanish Empire lasted much longer, with a large part of its success being the policy of miscegenation and reinvestment of the 4 parts of 5 in the same land that gave rise to them. This causes the local and indigenous militias themselves to fight furiously against the English invasions, for example Argentina or Mexico or Colombia supporting the few Spanish troops. Perhaps this is why we do not have MI 5 and MI 6 creating a massive operation to erase and modify the history of the British Empire as the UK did with OPERATION LEGACY with the aim of hiding everything that could embarrass the Crown and the British people in relation their actions... Regarding to the 2 percent military spending... well, first we fill the pantry, we fill the supermarkets, the gas stations, etc. and then we dedicate ourselves to do more things, that is, because things that we don't have in mind are weapons and money 24 hours a day. In the United Kingdom it seems that there is not much lettuce or tomatoes or eggs or gasoline or doctors and nurses... but they have two aircraft carriers that do not work or work poorly. We will talk about the frigates of the United Kingdom another day... but you do teh performance 'Presenting The Colors' instead 'Presenting The Fridge' for be inspected by the King too. Amazing
@@javiervicedo4201 cool story bro, definitely no bias, fake news, or misinformation in that comment.
Spain has no credible military btw
@@javiervicedo4201totally right 😂😂🇪🇸🇪🇸
Thank you for the information in this video
Honestly i was surprised to see you making avideo about this
Catastrophe in fact dont matter that much when you have huge powers like Spain or england at that time, the spanish launched several armadas at the isles and they did the same with spain
Neigther crippled any of the 2 nations for centuries
Hope that this video help people to understand that is hard to really criple major powers of an era
Finally someone telling the truth and not spreading propaganda.
The English lost terribly due to Strong Spanish resistance, and lack of supplies in 1589. A very horrible loss indeed.
poor planning due to the ecstasy of having repelled the attack of the largest empire of the time
@@hugopontevedra Yes, I do know at the time that Spain was larger and was colonizing the Americas, and Philippines. However, that is not really needed background information, what is really a part of all this is what started the conflict. The Spanish Armada invaded England because the queen executed her half sister, Mary the first who was Catholic. It was more of a religious war.
@@Sehlan-vi9lh More than a religious issue, it was an economic issue since piracy and aid to the Protestant cause in Flanders was causing serious economic losses.
Maria's execution was a perfect pretext for the invasion
@@hugopontevedra No, you got it all wrong. I said England was protestant, and Spain was trying to convert England to Catholicism. It was not really about money.
@@Sehlan-vi9lh If the English had not attacked the possessions in America and Spain or helped the rebels in Flanders
Felipe, no matter how Catholic he was, would not have decided to carry out the invasion.
A truthful and balanced take, K&G!