Goteborg of Sweden - The Modern East Indiaman
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Today we take a look at the Goteberg/Gothenburg, an active East Indiamen replica based in Sweden. Become a friend of the ship here! www.gotheborg.se/en/support-t...
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00:02:00 - Historical Ship
00:10:11 - Touring the Replica
00:39:50 - Support the Ship!
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"Picture this ..And then, out of the mists, you are rescued by this ..". BEST. DAY. EVER.
At that point I would check if I have traveled back in time.
"... did anyone see the time travel portal?..."
Like a reverse Final Countdown
A sanity check first. Unless properly warned the rescue would get more complicated :).
Flying Dutchman fears, I would say. Can't blame them.
Thank you for visiting and featuring us on your channel 😁
You're always welcome back on board ⛵
And to everyone else who watches,
come see us in Eriksberg, Gothenburg! ⚓
Thank you for supporting the ship 💙
Any plans to coming to the New World? Amerigo Vespucci was just here in Port of Los Angeles and it was a great success!
@@SwedishShipGotheborg I will definitely be back!
I was part of the original vaulenteer crew that helped build the rigging for her. It was an amazing time seeing her get put together and then to finally see the hull hit the water. I also stood by the gate when the royal family walked through to perform the christening.
Imagine going to China on a trade mission today and bringing back a load of I Phones 😂
@@magnificus8581 That would be amazing! Many of us dream of a trip like that. ⛵
While we don't have any plans right now, we never know what the future holds! 🌊
I remember an interview with the skipper of the sailboat they rescued, he said the sight of her coming thru the mist to their rescue was the most surreal moment of his life. All they knew prior was that a ship named Goteborg was coming for them.
She's a beauty, that's for sure.
Yeah they where thinking what time are we in
If i Saw a full rigged ship coming to rescue me I would probably think that it is the Flying Dutchman approaching and not the actual rescue vessel
Glad I’m not the only one 😂
Certainly not unreasonable to wonder.
Yeah, i'll chance swimming to shore thank you very much
It's the Flying Gothemburgman!
I remember when Götheborg came back from China the first time, one of the crew members had said that perhaps some boat will come out and welcome her back. How wrong he was, everybody in Göteborg that could be out on the water were there, about 10.000 small and big boats greeted her, and on the cliffs along Göta Älv and along the Göteborg harbor there were some 200.000 people greeting her! On the boat was the prime minister of China and the Swedish King and Queen.
A truly historical day.
I did the capetown - freemantle leg back in 2006, and this gives me so many memories. Some of the coolest parts where on the top sails preparing for storm, tying while holding on for dear life. Being 4 people trying to hold the rudder steady. Once one of the ropes snapped and the mainsail fell halfway down. That is adrenaline on turbo
Also that neighboring tallship where my main ship during my teenage years
Same here, coolest thing I've done so far in my life 😎
Tjenare förresten Odd :)
@@oskich tja :)
@@oskich 100% the most unique and coolest experience. I just wish that I would have been a bit older when I did it. Just a couple of years.
What a lovely old lady. You can see why sailors prefered working for the Company rather than the Navy.
Well in Sweden the bulk of the sailors in the navy did not have much choice as they were semi-conscripted through the Allotment system used by both the army and the navy. In peace time the service was also not that ardous as the bulk only served for 6 months every 3 years. The actual professional sailors were a minority and were mostly merchant marine sailors recruited with pretty favourable conditions for 18th Century military service. (They go a years pay from the navy but only had to serve for 6 months every year.)
Hauling freight may not be as exciting as naval service, but it also means less chance to get shot in the face.
@@RCAvhstape there is that, but the food tended to be better. The quarters tended to be better, as well as the pay and discipline.
@@RCAvhstape Far more sailors died from accidents in the navy than in combat, working on a tall ship was really dangerous.
Have been onbord her a few times since her maiden voyage. One thing I love about her is her is her scuffs and marks from use. It is the definition of living history.
As well as being a very near authentic replica she is also fully certified as a modern commercial passenger vessel. That's make Götheborg very special indeed.
Similar with the SS John W Brown. Liberty ship that operates out of Baltimore. Because she does cruises, she's technically certified as a cruise ship which makes her something like the largest cruise ship based on the US East Coast. Also in part because most actual cruise ships are based where it's convenient.
Haha only thing I can correct is that the little sailing boat was rescued in the English Channel, not Biscaya😂 we were just a day or two from Jersey
I was on watch at the time, we had been sailing (engine off) but then got the mayday call so we had to quickly clew up the sails and go by engine towards the little one. Ended up as an extra helmsman (usually we have two, can have up to four if you need extra muscle like in heavy weather or strong currents) so I didn’t really see the actual rescue, but they were bobbing behind us until the next morning when we dropped them off by the French coast to a coast guard I think
I don’t think I could get any more jealous 😅
I remember rushing up on deck and heading up into the rigging. Fun day! Surprising it's had so much coverage. -John, babord watch
You guys did your ship proud. Even taking a small sailing yacht in tow requires a level of seamanship and ship handling not normally seen by the general public. Well done!
USN enlisted, retired here.
Did you visit the Maritiman when you were in Gothenburg? The floating museum with among others the destroyer HMS Småland? (HswMS, for non swedes..)
Kanske en annan tur eftersom ingen sagt något om det?
I spent 5 years working a tug boat up and down the Mississippi and other inland waterways and boy does this boat feel like a real working boat that you would see today.
Wow! What a gorgeous ship!
As a Dane, I'm required to be somewhat suspicious of Swedish ships
... but this one is very cool ;)
The 'Wasa' wasn't the only one built in Sweden 😅
The tour of the ship was cool.
The "point at it and explain" comments on being "in Ordinary" were priceless.
Thank you.
I agree.
Thanks to the 500k subs and Drachinifel getting more commercial appreciation (Magellan). Listen and learn.
Thanks Alex.
I particularly enjoyed seeing the yards and upper masts in their “ordinary” storage positions. I had never actually thought about it before.
I remember one of the most fascinating aspects of sailing ships, as described by Patrick O'Brian, was their ability to shift top masts (and above) without dockyard support. How the crew, with just muscle power, capstan and ingenuity could manage this was astonishing to wrap your head around.
Indeed.
Over on The Sampson Boat Co channel they just just demonstrated how the top mast is mounted, just a few months back. It was fascinating to watch.
YES! This ship is so beautiful, I whis there were other ones like it. It's such a phenomenal way to re-live and experience history
There are. I have visited the Muscowite frigate "Standard" (or something) back in 2003, before Putolini took the country back into Totalitarianism. There is also an old Dutch sailing vessel used to trade rum. I have a friend who sailed with it for a couple of years.
There's old wooden ships all over the place. Go on Google maps, zoom in on your local port docks and you'll usually quite quickly find at least an old schooner. A lot of them are open for tours and the ones that are still seaworthy might even do charter sailing.
If you're in Brest (France) this summer, you can see :
- Abel Tasman (Netherlands, 40.5m, 1913)
- Artemis (Netherlands, 59m, 1926)
- Bessie Ellen (UK, 36m, 1904)
- Belle Poule (France, 37.5m, 1932)
- Catherina (Netherlands, 39.55m, 1920)
- Gulden Leeuw (Denmark, 70m, 1937), Iris (Netherlands, 36m, 1916)
- Joanna Saturna (Finland, 34m, 1903)
- Le Belem (France, 58m, 1896)
- La Recouvrance (France, 41.9m, 1992)
- L'Etoile (France, 37.5m, 1932)
- L'Etoile Du Roy (France, 46.3m, 1997)
- Le Français (France, 46.6m, 1948)
- Loth Lorien (Netherlands, 48m, 1907)
- Minerva (Netherlands, 50.5m, 1935)
- Morgenster (Netherlands, 48m, 1919)
- Regina Maris (Poland, 48m, 1970)
- Santa Maria Manuella (Portugal, 67.4m, 1937)
- Stortemelk (Netherlands, 44.5m, 1961)
- Thalassa (Netherlands, 50m, 1980)
- Twister (Netherlands, 35m, 1902)
- Wylde Swan (Germany, 62m, 1920)
- Zephir (Netherlands, 35m, 1931)
And that's only listing the big masts ships, they also have motor, steam, military, scientific... ships of all size there. You can even visit some.
The wood "marlinspike" is called a fid, and is used to open the yarns of a line to splice it. The marlin spike is used for wire rope. soft ropes are called lines.
What a fantastic ship. As soon as I saw the photo I remembered the famous rescue but I have to admit, she had slipped from my mind, so thank you Drach for bringing a very worth ship back to our attention. Any age-of-sail ship under sail is a thing of beauty to behold.
So surreal to see one of my favurite youtuber in my own town. I remeber looking at it being built when I was a kid. I still remeber the wooden smell from the shipyard and the size of it.
I'm fascinated and impressed by how mariners used to do very complex and complicated operations like stepping a mast, moving very heavy items (guns, etc), and launching and recovering the ship's boats...
There were several hints in this vid as to how such evolutions were accomplished during the age of sail, the spars used as davits/cranes for the boats, the upper masts alongside the lower ones, etc-
I would really like a vid or three about how such things were done without modern advantages- especially a vid of such if any is available... Setting and furling a sail is impressive enough, but, stepping a mast (with 'shears', or 'getting the new mast in by the old' is just nearly incredible andd is something i would like to have covered. (Especially considering the materials that they had access to at the time- wood, hemp, iron...)
Anyhow, that's one of the things that occurred to me throughout this (as usual) excellent vid!
Cheers!
What I like about this ship is getting to actually see a sailing vessel that wasn't made to be a war ship but made for hauling goods from one place to another. And even though it does have cannons to protect the ship against pirates, it still has plenty of room for cargo as well. But also the fact that it does actually sail is really cool as well. And the way the steering wheel is positioned an opposing ship can't snipe off the operator of the steering wheel.
Outstanding!!!! As a little boy I was enchanted with such books as "Yankee Ships in Pirate Waters",by Rupert S. Holland, which always had a story or chapter with an " East Indiaman" , getting attacked or boarded by pirates. I have that book stored away somewhere. Now I will have to dig up my 50 year old hardcover copy and reread it again. Knowing what an armed "East Indiaman" actually looked like it will be even better at 70 than it was at 12. THANK YOU.
Another great one drach
What a cool vessel & rescue story. Adding the fact that you can book to participate as a part of the crew, for certain legs on her journeys, makes it even more special.
"This ship is much dirtier than a museum ship, because this is a sailing ship! " 👍
somewhat ironic that the original ship hit a rock after losing steering, then the replica rescues a sailing boat which lost steering.
Götheberg is a masterpiece of a replica. Keep the age of sail content coming, Drach!
Wow! An absolutely fascinating look at this ship Drach. We've seen a lot of the preserved and "replica" warships, but this look at this "replica" Indiaman has whetted my appetite so much that I wish I could travel to Sweden and spend a day looking at everything. This presentation is unique as we get to see how "things fit together" and work that you normally don't get to see in your typical museum ship, i.e. with her topmasts sent down and yards stowed (one at least stowed.) We are even shown a rigged out "boat boom" with one of the ship's boats riding to it, again something not normally seen even on "active" museum ships.
She is beautiful and is obviously being taken care of by true seamen.
At a guess (I haven't looked her up on-line ... yet) I would assume this replica has a diesel engine and propellor, diesel generator for "hotel" services, radar (I spotted a camouflaged antenna mounted on the foremast fighting top,) radio, satellite communications and so forth as required by 20th / 21st century safety regulations.
Yeah she have all the modern stuff you need in this day and age although I think her fuel tanks is rather small so she is sailing most of the way
I saw Götheborg on it's maiden journey from Göteborg harbor in 2005. It's always fun seeing it was able to pull this off. It's an amazing feat for a ship of this design
That "hand thimble" is called a sail palm. These are still used today for many sewing tasks, both on sailing vessels and steel hulled naval and merchant ships. I still have one (yes, mine is left-handed), though I left the sea twenty-eight years ago. Ask me how to sew a whipping on the end of a manila line.
Old lines would be used aboard ship. New lines would be used for heavy weather, and slightly older ones for sailing in tropical waters. After they lost their usefulness for that, the yarns would be separated and used for lashings, and bucket handles, and then after that the would be separated and used as oakum for caulking. Nothing was wasted aboard ship.
Pretty good pronunciation of Göteborg Drac! Love your channel. Best regards // Jake in Linköping, Sweden.
I've sailed as a deckand aboard Götheborg. It's quite the experience, I recommend it if you have the time and the physique.
Slightly confused, at ~9:05 you say that she went back to Gothenburg for repairs, but also that you caught up with her in Stockholm. From the footage later you can see that you are definitely in Gothenburg, so I assume it was just a funny slipup! Hope you had a great time in our city, comparing/mixing us up with Stockholm is very close to heresy tough 🤣
I got excited when I heard Stockholm (I moved here last year). Bad Drachinifel bad! :)
It could have been worse and said Copenhagen, now that would be heresy!
BEWARE! At 28:25 Drach will just grab you and manhandle you around without even asking for permission.
There was the case of a sailing ship used as a training ship captured a narco sub just a few years back.
My first memories of seeing the Göteborg are from the age of four or five, when I lived not far from her docks. At age 22 and having left Gothenburg, she now remains a powerful symbol of home whenever I'm far away - A testament to the seafaring heritage of my hometown, and a dignified reminder to keep on sailing!
The story of the rescue of the yacht reminded me that Tim Severin, the famous scholar/adventurer, built a replica of an Arab dhow from the time of “Sinbad the Sailor”. Severin and his crew sailed the dhow from Yemen to Shanghai, and on their way they came to the assistance of Vietnamese “boat people” (this was in the late 70’s), who had some problems aboard their vessel. Another example of “the past” coming to the aid of “the present”.
This is one of the most fun Presentations you have done!
a shipmate of mine, now the bosuns mate on the tall ship Pelican of London, was on board gotheborg as voyage crew during the rescue
So amazing, what a beautiful ship and great work for this ship's crew on blending old and new
YES! FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT MY FAVOURITE SHIP!
She looks so special. This was a joy to watch.
Amazing ship. I count myself lucky to have once sailed aboard a wooden ex coast guard schooner in the South China Sea (the So Fong, which now live in Mallorca), but this is something else!
This was an excellent tour and very interesting video about this ship. Thank you Drach!
Beautiful drone camera work. Been listening for a number of years, awesome content. Keep up the good work sir!
Love recreated old ships, thanks for the informative look!!!
The Goteborg's rescue is the equivalent of the Big Boy rescuing a freight train on Blair Hill.
Well A1 Tornado, a British reproduction stream locomotive, did rescue passengers stranded due to bad weather in 2009.
What a beautiful ship! Great video!
Love your work mate, keep it up.
Admirer from australia
Thank you for the tour, Drach. I always believed that only the standing rigging was tarred. You learn something new every day.
So love the magnificent ships of the age of sail🎉❤! Thank You Commodore Drach.
Great video, thanks very much.
That is so cool I had no idea such a ship existed
This is great for ideas on how to display my models. I learned a huge amount about reality of period ships.
Awesome video! Would love to see this ship in person one day!
I had the pleasure of visiting this lovely ship in Barcelona 2022. Very much recommended.
I wish I could visit. Thanks for sharing! She is a beautiful ship.
What a fascinating video
I had no idea this ship existed, what a fantastic living museum. Great vid too thanks :)
Geat tour by the way. I wish I could go there. Maybe someday.
quite the interesting tour, i ddint know of this ship existing
Hey Drach, Great video as always and I love hearing you attempt to pronounce things in other languages - never let someone put you down for an honest attempt.
This ship is named after a city with an interesting naming history. King Gustav II Adolf gave it two official names on founding. The English/German Gothenburg and the Swedish Göteborg pronounced more like (Yurt - eh - bory with that last having the short o from pop)
Thanks for the tour ! If my horse vums imma winna,. I'll be sure to visit.
Thanks Drach.
Lovely ship. I visited a number of times during her build.
Do not scroll down, avoid the sirens call.
What?
@@jacklucas5908 Why?
Marlin spikes are actually still in use, we have several on the ship i work on. Now they are mainly used to undo stuck knots and splicing rope
Drach, it is so cool....not a perfect superlative like Victory with hundred crew-members to scrub the deck during a watch. Looks like daily business & use in the age of sail. From the outside it looks like a 2-decker. The bow is not as flat like Cook's Endeavour, but looks more like a Dutch bow, not a British bow. I did not know, that the ship exists, it is really an unbelievable highly rated story. Thx for Your top-video.
thanking all
Marlin spikes do not come in wood, they are called a "Fid" and used on rope rather than wire, the spar holding the boat is called a boom, stern boom if on the stern, Quarter boom if on the quarters and lower boom if aling the sides.
@@michaelcox7564 I own several wooden marlin spikes...
Thanks drach
What a beautiful ship.
Thank you Drach after years of sailing, dinghies/yachts and anything that floats(with varying success)I finally get to see an age of sail mast Stepped Down, I wonder if any modern Boat designer, might take up the engineering idea,
Very nice!
Finally a video on my second favorite modern ship. (The first is ARC Gloria of Colombia)
Thanks!
You should visit Plymouth Massachusetts' Mayflower 2, she is also fully able to sail.
That is the best story ever Drac shows you they did ken how to build ships back in the day. I was in the SCC Chichester way down in Fowey grandad run the yacht club. TS Royalist came in got onboard. When I got home applied to go on her did two weeks. Second yardsman loved it. Sorry bit long but I was stocked.
Small correction, you did visit it in Göteborg, not Stockholm :)
26:52 Allegedly Colt's inspiration for his revolving handgun.
I hope you get to visit L'Hermione in La Rochelle as well at some point, don't know if she actively sails but she still did until a few years ago.
I heard rutter instead of rudder. Thanks James Clavell…
As Drach was forward, below decks, and we saw those huge coils of rope below the bench, i was imagining how much physical labor it would take to get that coil above and re-laid where it needs to be.
Kudos to the crew who work this beautiful piece of living history.
One question: does the Ship have a special storage room for Lingonberry jam? Sort of like a French ship's wine cellar. 😅
Less pirates these days. “Less” being the key part of that phase.
Imagine she is around the Somalia and some pirates comes in for 'hostage money' on the Sailship with speedboats, as she is a nice slow target. And then she runs out her gun. She can generate plenty of Smokescreen and concussion damage while they try to board.
@@Elkarlo77 Pretty sure they are not working guns, also pretty sure she is carrying neither powder or shot for said guns for health and safety reasons if nothing else.
So pray tell me how one is supposed to fire them?
Both reproduction age of sail ships I've sailed on have carried at least a signal gun.
It is an unlikely scenario, but if you seriously wanted to shoot at small boats with guns of that era, loading them with metal debris, chains, bolts etc. is far more likely to be effective then roundshot.
"Fewer" - Stannis Baratheon, the one true king of the Seven Kingdoms.
@@alganhar1 Funnily enough they are working guns they are just most often only used for showing off.
Drach, the HMB Endeavour replica and the Duyfken replica (both built in Fremantle, Oz,) have circumnavigated so travelled further than Goteburg.
Hey Drachinifel, I’ve been a pretty big fan of your videos for a while now, and I’ve been wondering, where do you get a lot of your sources? I wish to make a career out of history myself, yet finding information online has often proven to be nearly impossible for me.
I really should try to visit that ship i did like looking at it the times i went by on the Ferry going between Frederikshavn and Göteborg
This "hit home"! I would have liked to meet You in Gothenburg ... I sailed with her three times. BTW: Try "Yöh-te-bore-ye", that may come close.
Great tour. Would love to see the view from the crows nest. Climb Drach climb.
Being put into ordinary only applies to warships. Merchantmen were/are laid up when not in use.
Keeping warships in commission was/is extremely expensive and because most countries are mostly not at war most sailing warships spent most of their lives not in commission with just a few men, for a large ship a few dozen men, on board for maintenance.
I was once standing in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam looking at the tafferal of the Royal George when an Englishman nearby muttered 'We need to get that back'. The ship was taken by the Dutch fleet from the Medway in 1667 where it had been put into ordinary because King Charles II had run out of money during a war with the Dutch. The ship was too large for the Dutch naval ports and demolished. The tafferal is the only part still existing.
What an awesome project by Sweden.
quality son like it 🔥💯💪🏻
There is also the amazing story of the oaks of Visingsö, which were used to build this ship.
I think I saw her when she came to Norfolk last year
You know when I think of replica sailing ships you would usually think of England because of its naval heritage empire and naval battles but Sweden they can be pretty full of surprises and it can be pretty well proud of it... Now this has piqued my curiosity to learn more about Sweden's naval heritage.. keep up the good work..
Fun fact, the swedish peiple are called "the rowers" by both the fins and the russians. Thanks to the many viking excursions.
When were you here????? I was on this ship Wednesday with my father visiting from the states. I wish I would have known you were coming to my town.