This is probably the most in depth I've seen anyone go with talking about the process of recording sound for a film production for a featurette. It's something I've wanted people for to understand about what production and post audio is all about! Especially since this is what I do! 🥰
@ she has a flat tone, poor range and is overall a poor actress that has been given WAAAY too much hype.. she delivers her lines in an emotionless way, and it was obvious to the director as her lines had many of the Ozisms added.
@@h3eartbreakI was shocked at the compression and pitch correction choices on the official soundtrack especially when the movie versions were so clean. What is This Feeling was where I really noticed it. But other than that it seems consistent with the set audio.
we know for a fact DTL was re-recorded in the studio for the soundtrack after johnathan did his live version for the movie and if im not correct, ive heard NOMTW was show over 40 times so there's gotta be outtakes of vocals chosen for the final version, and if i gotta choose one version of DG it would be DG's movie version and not the soundtrack cuz the echos in after elphaba rises and sings the ending has a beautiful overworld echo effect in the movie if you listen to it on ur headphones
Give them the Oscar already. The best film of the year. The most intentional and most spiritually aligned movie I've ever seen. This movie moved me so much. I've watched it 5 times and still want more. Never watched a movie more than once or twice except three movies and Wicked is one of them.
That's why is so perfectly magical, look how profissional this team is, and how they took care of every sound detail in this movie. It is so mindblowing watch the backstage of this masterpiece! 💚💗
This is actually not something new, they have long been using this technology in all stage shows nowadays, a small mic near the forehead, the wire worming out of the hair and the mic just sticking out of the head or side of the head.
the whole movie is a masterclass in pretty much every aspect of filmmaking. new ideas around every corner, no limitations, just pure talent, hard work and a lot of focus, determination and devotion. this film should get pretty much all big oscars without any doubt.
I would love to hear a version with NO autotune (because yes, there is some. It's not overwhelming, but it's there.) because as much as it "pitch corrects" it also takes away so many tiny emotional inflections.
And the worst part is that it is not necessary at all because most of these actors can SING! You can hear it in the 'pink' scenes. The slow acapella part is her actual singing and with the background music that follows up the voice is slightly pitch corrected. Nobody will claim Ariana doesn't sound good even if she is slightly (humanly) not perfectly precisely on pitch like every 'professionally' produced music from the last 30 years. I think it actually takes away from the performance. It's not a shame to hear actual emotion and it's not a shame to hear that good live singing is done live.
@@MrAronymous EXACTLY. I (for one) want the inconsistencies. I want the times the singer is slightly under a note and the building into the tuning because the emotion is building up with it. That's PART of the music and the performance! These women are talented! And sure, if a note was really off on the day for whatever reason, I don't mind it tweaked, but overall autotune takes out the natural vocal vibration that helped make them stars in the first place. So yes, the harmonies might sound more matchy-matchy with autotune, but you lose part of the emotion. (For me I notice it most in the Defying Gravity soundtrack vs the audio in the clips of them live singing.)
It’s very obvious in the soundtrack version with the vocal mixing and mastering choices. Some parts were exactly like the movie take and other parts sounded like a separate take was spliced together and compressed so much that you could hear vocal artifacts in the mix. It’s still amazing but there’s something in raw vocals that feels more powerful than melodyne.
Not sure that there was auto tune in the actual movie. The soundtrack is mixed and edited differently so you can hear the autotune there, but I’m not sure it was present the movie. I even felt that the unison in the movie version of Defying Gravity was a little pitchy but it’s not on the soundtrack version.
honestly every time i watch one of these videos, it makes me love the movie even more. which i didn't even think was possible considering how much i already love it. it's incredible. so much work goes into it. it's so beautiful :(
It's been months and i still haven't got over this masterpiece of a movie. Will keep listening and watching Wicked clips until the part 2 has been released.
I LOVE these really detailed behind the scenes videos. I work in film and this shines light on a side( and on jobs) that the audience usually never sees. so cool!
they say they transitioned from talking to singing so seamlessly, but listen to dancing through life. you can hear the slight raw echo when fiyero speaks at the beginning, and then immediately it sounds like it was recorded in a studio. the whole song jumps between raw audio to clearly pitched and tuned up singing. it was also really noticeable during no one mourns the wicked. you could hear the immediate change. the entire soundtrack sounds so compressed and mixed in an unnatural, robotic way too... they keep advertising that the movie was filmed with live singing, which yes, seems true, but they have also made it seem like the final edited movie IS live singing. what they should have done was sing live on set but done a broadway official recording approach where they're in a controlled studio and sync it up like that. for a movie this grand and expensive, there was just too much overpolishing. truly needed the npr tiny desk engineers
1:44 Talking about the set having no background noises, you know what have been really cool? Actually playing a couple seconds of live recording without music or commentary. This is like talking about how great your physical sets are and only showing bluescreen shots.
The entirety of this production deserves endless flowers. This is a truly special and spectacular work of art. I hope everyone is rewarded accordingly!
You went through so much trouble to record live vocals which is commendable but why ruin all of that work with post processing pitch correction? Let the singers sing. The pitch correction took me out of the moment. I wish the producers hadn't done that.
The live vocals are awesome for the movie, but the soundtrack should’ve been recorded professionally in a booth because just listening to the album in the car it’s not clean, like nah I don’t want to listen to Cynthia’s voice sounding boxy in What Is This Feeling 😅
Sadly I agree with you, if I listen to the soundtrack through headphones it's wonderful but when I use my Bose Ultras it sounds a little thin? tinny? so I can't listen with them and they have a setting (immersion) that SHOULD make this the most awesome soundtrack ever, such a bummer however I think I can deal with it because well like I said it's wonderful and I shouldn't be so picky🙄
I raised 184k and Anna Kathleen Sanford is to be thanked. I got my self my dream car 🚗 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Anna K. Sanford is the kind of person one needs in his or her life! I got a home, a good wife, and a beautiful daughter. Note!:: this is not a promotion but me trying to make a point that no matter what happens, always have faith and keep living!!
can we get the soundtrack version as can be heard in the movie? I need all the step and book slapping sounds! There are some strange edits in the digital ost version :( (popular autotune)
FUN FACT: Elphaba's hat, in the stage production, also has a microphone in it just like they did here. There's actually a clip floating around on TH-cam of Shoshana Bean singing "Defying Gravity" and her hat accidentally falls off during the climax. When it did, her vocals cut out for a moment until the sound technicians were able to switch over to another mic.
Really appreciate all that’s said here however I wonder if more flexibility towards them re-recording in post would’ve been beneficial for the soundtrack. Theres a robotic glitch in popular, and I find it confusing why that word wasn’t just re-recorded in post rather than (I assume) edited strangely to remove prop sounds. The latter seems like more effort.
I love that they put this video out- almost like a big "F YOU" to all the people that are saying that the live singing was pre-recorded or severely edited. No.. it wasn't. Just because YOU can't sing like them, doesn't mean they can't.
It makes me so pissed that they put in all this effort to record things live on set, and then on the soundtrack ee literally hear the autotune they did almost all of the songs have been messed with. I appreciate the effort that went into recording things live on set. But they went ahead and messed with perfectly good audio in post. So that renders the work Simon describes here, almost completely useless. Here's a list of some examples of them messing with the songs: - In the song "Popular", a vocal glitch or crack can be heard at the 1:09 mark. - In the song "What Is This Feeling" on the line "For your face" at 1:20 there is a strange cut between the words "for" and "your", as if two separate cuts were used and stitched together. - In "Dancing Through Life," the transition from speaking at the beginning to singing feels abrupt and could be more seamlessly blended. If that isn't feasible, then the speaking part might be better omitted, as it isn't essential to the song's flow. - In "Dancing Through Life", a strange echo occurs during the line “slough it off as I do” at the 1:14 mark. - In the same song, the delivery of the line “blows are glancing” at the 1:59 mark appears to have been recorded with a less-than-optimal take. - In "Defying Gravity," the transition between live and studio vocals, or between speaking and singing, is especially jarring on the phrase "it's me (speaking)" followed by "it's meeeee (singing)" at the 5:03 mark. - A significant issue occurs during Cynthia Erivo's final note in "Defying Gravity," arguably the most pivotal moment of the movie. The note appears to have been spliced together from two separate takes, resulting in a noticeable and distracting inconsistency at the 7:08 mark. - There are noticeable volume inconsistencies between songs, and even within certain songs, requiring listeners to adjust the volume frequently for a comfortable experience. - The overall mixing of the album could benefit from refinement as well. At times, the instrumental arrangements overpower the vocals, while in other moments, certain vocal parts are noticeably louder than others, creating an uneven listening experience.
as a performer and a sound engineer I am obsessed with this whole process... now, if someone could explain to me why they did what they did to Jonathan's voice in DTL, I'd appreciate it hahhaha the autotune on his voice is appalling
okay but why then pitch correct the live vocals and diminish the performance. Everytime they show a bts video of the recording its vibrant and with so much more soul than the already great final edition thats in the movie. but everytime I hear and see what they actually captured my heart bleeds a little that we dont get to experience said live vocals.
they gotta do a documentary about making this movie fr
Dude I know. I would watch like a 4 hour long thing with a break in the middle
They did!
It’s called “defying gravity the curtain rises on wicked” and it aired on NBC, and is available on Peacock🌞
@@kariwick-InnerPeaceCoaching I know. I watched it when it aired
@@kariwick-InnerPeaceCoaching thank you!
@@christinar1563 You’re welcome!
If this sound team doesn't get an Oscar nomination, there is no justice.
Agreed
Uh.. There's so much noise and hearable autotune glitches. I'm familiar with audio engineering myself and it's noticeable..
@@semvanroyen2693 they should have hired you
Autotune! You are hallucinating!
The recording quality is extraordinary
This is probably the most in depth I've seen anyone go with talking about the process of recording sound for a film production for a featurette. It's something I've wanted people for to understand about what production and post audio is all about! Especially since this is what I do! 🥰
My partner works in film, so I've seen the immense work everyone on set does, you should be so proud! It all looks so difficult 😅
HOLDING SPACE FOR THIS VIDEO RN
Holding space and fingers.
🩷💚🩷💚🧹✨️🫧
I've never consumed BTS of a movie this vigorously!
This cast is the best it could have been. Cynthia and Ariana were AMAZING!!!❤
I just wish they didn't case Michelle Yoh
@@xecobwhy? She was amazing
@@Fantasy_Dreamer_89💯
Agreed💚🧹🩷🪄🫧
@ she has a flat tone, poor range and is overall a poor actress that has been given WAAAY too much hype.. she delivers her lines in an emotionless way, and it was obvious to the director as her lines had many of the Ozisms added.
Would love to hear the live version on the soundtrack
As far as I can tell, they're identical, with apparently some unnecessary pitch correction as noted by a lot of other TH-camrs.
yes especially for what is this feeling! I need the nice precussion of the choreography lol
@@h3eartbreakI was shocked at the compression and pitch correction choices on the official soundtrack especially when the movie versions were so clean. What is This Feeling was where I really noticed it. But other than that it seems consistent with the set audio.
Exactly.
we know for a fact DTL was re-recorded in the studio for the soundtrack after johnathan did his live version for the movie and if im not correct, ive heard NOMTW was show over 40 times so there's gotta be outtakes of vocals chosen for the final version, and if i gotta choose one version of DG it would be DG's movie version and not the soundtrack cuz the echos in after elphaba rises and sings the ending has a beautiful overworld echo effect in the movie if you listen to it on ur headphones
damn every time I think there is a category of academy awards that this film should win I realise wicked would probably take home every single one
the grip hold this movie still has for me since it first released oh my god that deserves an award all on its own
same! I’ve been waiting to get bored one of these days but every clip just pulls me back in. The visuals, the sounds, the actors!
I can’t believe there are people who don’t think John Chu deserves an Oscar nomination when he’s so heavily involved in the making of this film.
I’d LOVEEEEEE to hear the live recordings. Think I’d actually cry.
Give them the Oscar already. The best film of the year. The most intentional and most spiritually aligned movie I've ever seen. This movie moved me so much. I've watched it 5 times and still want more. Never watched a movie more than once or twice except three movies and Wicked is one of them.
They did all the singling audio live?! Absolutely incredible in every which (*witch) way!
The sounds were good. Wicked has become one of my top favorite movies. Awesome job!
That's why is so perfectly magical, look how profissional this team is, and how they took care of every sound detail in this movie. It is so mindblowing watch the backstage of this masterpiece! 💚💗
This is such a fascinating way of doing live vocals, the hat mic especially is genius. Bravo to Simon and crew!
The hat mic trick is also used in the stage show! The performer has one hat mic and one full-body mic as a backup in case the hat mic goes out.
@@HaunaMyKiki I was gonna say the same! You can search Shoshana Bean performing Defying Gravity Hat Fall to see how they switch from the hat mic.
This is actually not something new, they have long been using this technology in all stage shows nowadays, a small mic near the forehead, the wire worming out of the hair and the mic just sticking out of the head or side of the head.
the whole movie is a masterclass in pretty much every aspect of filmmaking. new ideas around every corner, no limitations, just pure talent, hard work and a lot of focus, determination and devotion. this film should get pretty much all big oscars without any doubt.
I would love to hear a version with NO autotune (because yes, there is some. It's not overwhelming, but it's there.) because as much as it "pitch corrects" it also takes away so many tiny emotional inflections.
And the worst part is that it is not necessary at all because most of these actors can SING! You can hear it in the 'pink' scenes. The slow acapella part is her actual singing and with the background music that follows up the voice is slightly pitch corrected. Nobody will claim Ariana doesn't sound good even if she is slightly (humanly) not perfectly precisely on pitch like every 'professionally' produced music from the last 30 years. I think it actually takes away from the performance. It's not a shame to hear actual emotion and it's not a shame to hear that good live singing is done live.
@@MrAronymous EXACTLY. I (for one) want the inconsistencies. I want the times the singer is slightly under a note and the building into the tuning because the emotion is building up with it. That's PART of the music and the performance! These women are talented! And sure, if a note was really off on the day for whatever reason, I don't mind it tweaked, but overall autotune takes out the natural vocal vibration that helped make them stars in the first place. So yes, the harmonies might sound more matchy-matchy with autotune, but you lose part of the emotion. (For me I notice it most in the Defying Gravity soundtrack vs the audio in the clips of them live singing.)
It’s very obvious in the soundtrack version with the vocal mixing and mastering choices. Some parts were exactly like the movie take and other parts sounded like a separate take was spliced together and compressed so much that you could hear vocal artifacts in the mix. It’s still amazing but there’s something in raw vocals that feels more powerful than melodyne.
Not sure that there was auto tune in the actual movie. The soundtrack is mixed and edited differently so you can hear the autotune there, but I’m not sure it was present the movie. I even felt that the unison in the movie version of Defying Gravity was a little pitchy but it’s not on the soundtrack version.
honestly every time i watch one of these videos, it makes me love the movie even more. which i didn't even think was possible considering how much i already love it. it's incredible. so much work goes into it. it's so beautiful :(
It's been months and i still haven't got over this masterpiece of a movie.
Will keep listening and watching Wicked clips until the part 2 has been released.
Let the Oscars rain for this masterpiece in every craftmenship. This is Pure Joy, hard Work and absolutely perfekt in every angle and frame.
You said it. It was perfect in every way
It’s so beautiful seeing the people who have worked behind the scenes ❤️ They ate
Finally saw the movie this weekend. It was brilliant! Everyone did such an exceptional job on this masterpiece!
imagine getting to watch this movie dozens of times while working on the sound. I would do anything for that job.
I love that you guys are still giving us more content.. please keep doing it till the second movie and for another year haha!
YESSSS MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS I could watch the bts process for hours and hours
As a Filmmaker that hates sound design with a bloody passion i applaud all the work put into this story!!
I LOVE these really detailed behind the scenes videos. I work in film and this shines light on a side( and on jobs) that the audience usually never sees. so cool!
its so interesting to see how the magic occurs on set and how much thought it had been put in it
they say they transitioned from talking to singing so seamlessly, but listen to dancing through life. you can hear the slight raw echo when fiyero speaks at the beginning, and then immediately it sounds like it was recorded in a studio. the whole song jumps between raw audio to clearly pitched and tuned up singing. it was also really noticeable during no one mourns the wicked. you could hear the immediate change. the entire soundtrack sounds so compressed and mixed in an unnatural, robotic way too... they keep advertising that the movie was filmed with live singing, which yes, seems true, but they have also made it seem like the final edited movie IS live singing. what they should have done was sing live on set but done a broadway official recording approach where they're in a controlled studio and sync it up like that. for a movie this grand and expensive, there was just too much overpolishing. truly needed the npr tiny desk engineers
Everything is perfect in this movie. ❤ So excited for part 2
1:44
Talking about the set having no background noises, you know what have been really cool?
Actually playing a couple seconds of live recording without music or commentary.
This is like talking about how great your physical sets are and only showing bluescreen shots.
They did a little bit with Ariana at the beginning with No One Mourns The Wicked.
the film sounded amazing. Well done Simon and the team. The full production crew don't get enough credit for the amount of work put in
I just love how everyone involved in making this movie put so much of their heart and soul into it to make this the masterpiece that it is ❤
everything’s honestly just so spectacular with the attention to details and the balance during them singing and the current environment they’re in
Amazing work!!! This is excellence on another level, congratulations to the whole team 🩷💚
Them singing LIVE is something so special
The soundtrack is magical !!
This movie means the world to me 💚💖
The entirety of this production deserves endless flowers. This is a truly special and spectacular work of art. I hope everyone is rewarded accordingly!
Beautiful Sounds 💚🩷 Wicked is absolutely amazing
Oh this is just incredible! The love for detail is insane and we noticed for sure
WE HOLDING SPACE WAIT😁🤚
You went through so much trouble to record live vocals which is commendable but why ruin all of that work with post processing pitch correction? Let the singers sing. The pitch correction took me out of the moment. I wish the producers hadn't done that.
The live vocals are awesome for the movie, but the soundtrack should’ve been recorded professionally in a booth because just listening to the album in the car it’s not clean, like nah I don’t want to listen to Cynthia’s voice sounding boxy in What Is This Feeling 😅
Sadly I agree with you, if I listen to the soundtrack through headphones it's wonderful but when I use my Bose Ultras it sounds a little thin? tinny? so I can't listen with them and they have a setting (immersion) that SHOULD make this the most awesome soundtrack ever, such a bummer however I think I can deal with it because well like I said it's wonderful and I shouldn't be so picky🙄
ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE
this is just perfect
This one, this one, fantastic and perfect ❤❤❤
I’m feeling truly inspired.
Can you provide additional insights about the bi-weekly subject you mentioned?
I raised 184k and Anna Kathleen Sanford is to be thanked. I got my self my dream car 🚗 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Anna K. Sanford is the kind of person one needs in his or her life! I got a home, a good wife, and a beautiful daughter. Note!:: this is not a promotion but me trying to make a point that no matter what happens, always have faith and keep living!!
Whoa 😲 I know her too!
Miss Anna Kathleen Sanford is an incredible person who has brought immense inspiration and positivity into my life.
I meagerly kicked off with $2k, and the results have been Jaw-dropping TBH!!!
What effective way to get in to connection with this woman you'll are speaking bout?
we are getting spoiled😀💚💚💓💓
Love it. Could watch hours of BTS 💚💖
can we get the soundtrack version as can be heard in the movie? I need all the step and book slapping sounds! There are some strange edits in the digital ost version :( (popular autotune)
Incredible work!!! Wish the soundtrack had used the same versions of the songs as the movie ❤ can’t wait for part 2
FUN FACT: Elphaba's hat, in the stage production, also has a microphone in it just like they did here. There's actually a clip floating around on TH-cam of Shoshana Bean singing "Defying Gravity" and her hat accidentally falls off during the climax. When it did, her vocals cut out for a moment until the sound technicians were able to switch over to another mic.
This makes me love the movie that much more!!!
I love the sound they used for Glinda's bubble
Why do i keep crying whenever i hear Defying Gravity 😭
YES I OOVE WICKED SM
Absolutely incredible!💚🩷
This is pure perfection ❤ it is so magical
Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable. Just incredible. 🔥
I still can’t believe a movie as wicked as this lost the best musical film (golden globe) to emilia pérez. I can’t! 🤦🏾♀️
It was a crime.
Really appreciate all that’s said here however I wonder if more flexibility towards them re-recording in post would’ve been beneficial for the soundtrack. Theres a robotic glitch in popular, and I find it confusing why that word wasn’t just re-recorded in post rather than (I assume) edited strangely to remove prop sounds. The latter seems like more effort.
Binge watching reactions of the movie/songs for a month now. Thanks for this new vid 😭😭💖💖💖
This movie is my whole life now ❤
need the soundtrack with live vocals and background noises!
💖definitely get the Oscar award💖💞
Amazing , Fantastic 💚💗
Soundtracks make the movie more memorable ✨
Brilliant
Simply remarkable work guys!
truly amazing
tHIS IS ACTUALLY INSANE
This is THE Oscar campaign!
I love that they put this video out- almost like a big "F YOU" to all the people that are saying that the live singing was pre-recorded or severely edited. No.. it wasn't. Just because YOU can't sing like them, doesn't mean they can't.
It wasn’t severely edited, true. But it was pitch corrected afterwards, unfortunately. I would live to hear the actual original audio.
great now make this an hour long please.
when are we getting music videos?
Fr i want it so bad
HOLDING SPACE
It makes me so pissed that they put in all this effort to record things live on set, and then on the soundtrack ee literally hear the autotune they did almost all of the songs have been messed with.
I appreciate the effort that went into recording things live on set. But they went ahead and messed with perfectly good audio in post. So that renders the work Simon describes here, almost completely useless.
Here's a list of some examples of them messing with the songs:
- In the song "Popular", a vocal glitch or crack can be heard at the 1:09 mark.
- In the song "What Is This Feeling" on the line "For your face" at 1:20 there is a strange cut between the words "for" and "your", as if two separate cuts were used and stitched together.
- In "Dancing Through Life," the transition from speaking at the beginning to singing feels abrupt and could be more seamlessly blended. If that isn't feasible, then the speaking part might be better omitted, as it isn't essential to the song's flow.
- In "Dancing Through Life", a strange echo occurs during the line “slough it off as I do” at the 1:14 mark.
- In the same song, the delivery of the line “blows are glancing” at the 1:59 mark appears to have been recorded with a less-than-optimal take.
- In "Defying Gravity," the transition between live and studio vocals, or between speaking and singing, is especially jarring on the phrase "it's me (speaking)" followed by "it's meeeee (singing)" at the 5:03 mark.
- A significant issue occurs during Cynthia Erivo's final note in "Defying Gravity," arguably the most pivotal moment of the movie. The note appears to have been spliced together from two separate takes, resulting in a noticeable and distracting inconsistency at the 7:08 mark.
- There are noticeable volume inconsistencies between songs, and even within certain songs, requiring listeners to adjust the volume frequently for a comfortable experience.
- The overall mixing of the album could benefit from refinement as well. At times, the instrumental arrangements overpower the vocals, while in other moments, certain vocal parts are noticeably louder than others, creating an uneven listening experience.
just BRAVO!!!
they need a documentary for this
WOW. JUST WOW.
Why am i lowkey early....
why am I lowkey early 💜
Fr
Same lol😭💕
If they don't get noms this Oscars they're probably waiting until Part 2 comes out.
i need the acapella versions fr
Brilliant ❤
Is he the one who almost makes a hip-hop version on popular? 😅
as a performer and a sound engineer I am obsessed with this whole process... now, if someone could explain to me why they did what they did to Jonathan's voice in DTL, I'd appreciate it hahhaha the autotune on his voice is appalling
Awesome movie
okay but why then pitch correct the live vocals and diminish the performance. Everytime they show a bts video of the recording its vibrant and with so much more soul than the already great final edition thats in the movie. but everytime I hear and see what they actually captured my heart bleeds a little that we dont get to experience said live vocals.
If you believed that, when why was it altered so much? Pitch adjustment should never have been an option for these two singers. They don't need it.
Absolutely agree, they went overboard with the editing.
God imagine being the background actors hearing all of that live 😩🤌🏻
Okay can we agree to riot if they don’t get best sound at the Oscar’s? Thanks
dream job. wow
Anybody at 2025 still listening to this song?
👇🏻
best movie of all time.
Yet some people are still denying that they actual sang live. They 100% did and I'm so tired of people hating on the movie.
Give them all the Oscars
What will be your title for a new wicked promotion video?
Me: Sound🗿
SIMON HAYES MY GOATT
Ariana and Cynthia changed everything