Wa251 is my most used mic in the studio. We own wa8000, Neumann u87, rode k2, ntk, Gemini II, z5600! Also a Luke Audio y56 handmade tubemic from Nashville. My go to mic is still often the WA251!
@@carl-magnusconsitt7389I know this is 6 months old but I was wondering if you could tell me if the Gemeni II is similar to the wa8000? I’ve had the wa8000(LOVED IT) but I had to sell it. I miss it dearly and would love to buy it back from the store I sold it. But, my friend has offered to sell me his Gemini II at a really great price, so I’m stuck between the two. I mainly record rap vocals and have a pretty deep voice. I mix my vocals so they pop out of the mix almost 3d sounding in a way
Buy your wa8000 back, the Gemini has that tube sound, but noyhing fancy like your old wa8000. I love that mike also, i think you love the sound of that "Lundahl inside" ! The gemini is a armyknife in studio but not as punchy as the wa8000. ONE mike you will LOVE is the Lauten Audio -347 (I think thats the name) a fet-microphone that you will love if you loved your wa8000. Thats 3x3 sounds. You will have that wa8000 sound in that one but even better soundingvin the high sounding! Best mike I have ever heard! ATLANTIS 👍
I personally own the TF-39 and I LOVE that thing! It gets really good warmth and presence on vocals and that high-end is super nice. EQing has never been easier
I recently found out by myself that the capsules on TF29 an 39 are slightly diferents due the Variable polar patterns on the 39, so we have the 47 and the 47S capsules. I was very very curious, so last week i needed a TF39 cause allready own a TF29 and, my man, i listening diference betwen both on quality, maybe because the TF39 Capsule need to be different for Polar patterns. But i own a pro recording studio and i have a 30 year production ears, lol...I can tell you the TF39 even if that the only diference are on Polar patterns changing options, this 39 is in fact "Better" sounding then the TF29. So i was curious and i had my answer. For vocals on Cardioid The 39 is a better overall sounding MIC. Strange maybe, but true. Cheers my friend.@@djsilent01
Personally, i would choose the TF 39 and the Pure Tube. In this comparison, the TF 39 sounds the best Tone wise. It sounds Warmer and Smoother more than the others which is exactly what you need in a Tube Mic. The Pure Tube sounds Big and Thick more than all of the other mics which is exactly what the Pros look for when it comes to microphones
I had the Avatone CV-12 and I can vouch for the mic itself being an incredible male vocal mic, the overall build quality of the mic itself is fantastic, included components feel on the cheaper side, but overall it’s amazing for the price point you can’t go wrong, especially as this used to be $499.00 for the longest time and is now $399.00 I definitely plan to have one in my arsenal.
8000 I like the most , closed my eyes and did this blind and my eyes always opened up to see this one. Sony esk mic is really good. I like how clean 🧼 the vocals is. When process you can’t really tell as much. Definitely love clean 🧼 tone
We've got the CV12 here - I did have a pair of TF Copperheads which I liked as drum O/H , but the neutral sound of the CV-12 works on vocals - I also have a WA47, which I find a little tubby for some singers and sounds much like the old Copperhead, if not quite as rich - which can be a good thing. I'm thinking of trying a WA67 after a lot of comparison listening, also their U87 - for instance given what I've heard the WA67 for lead and WA87 for BV's could be good - WA are not Neumann or TF obviously, but at £2,700 for a U87 and £12,500 for an old U67, well - I can appreciate the vintage U67 sound, but an artist I played the comparison to preferred the sound of the new WA67 - go figure Love your presentations by the way, nice and factual
Big fan of the telefunken based on this demo. Rich texture in those mids and really accentuated the grit without being remotely harsh. I bet it takes to an eq like a champ.
I think first you need to have a good composition/song, then a good performance, and then a good mic, but only if your room is not having reflections and reverb going on...
@@valerie98 But singing is above than these there.... If u don't have a technique to sing a song or that song which u made... Then no mic can survive you...
It depends. A great song with a bad quality recording can be brushed under the carpet. We have heard every song that can be possibly have been made. All now are copies of each other. A great mic with a super clean recording can be a life changer.
While it is clear in the video, the WA 251 has 3 polar patterns. The audio says it has 9 polar patterns. Thanks for the awesome video! I just got an AV-12 as my first tube microphone in part thanks to this comparison.
I have a few dynamic and condenser microphones and just got my first ribbon microphone, I didn't think I'd get a tube microphone mostly because of the price, but after this video, I may have to try a tube mic! - Craig P. Smith
They all sound really close...the wa-8000 seemed a bit harsher on the highs. The cv-12 was a bit colorless. Winner was the telefunkin or lewit...the lewit 840 is better than the pure tube (fpr less $) fyi.
I use the WA-251 a lot. However my newest microphone is The SA-87t from Stam Audio. It comes in at about $1000.00 with shipping from Chile if you order ahead. The wait is worth it. It is a one of a kind microphone. Stam Audio is the real deal to get clones tat are made with the highest quality at a reasonable price. I wanted to get the SA-47, A Neumann U-47 clone. It is about 2000.00 with shipping. My wife had a medical issue come up and Josh (the owner) let me switch. If I ever get the money to open a distribution shop Stan Audio would be one I would want first.
the TF39 and the WA8000 in the first part sound really good. The CV12 is ok, as is the puretube, but those other two are some way ahead, IMVVHO, quite a "forward" sound.
The CV12 and the WA8000 mixed and wet sound hands down the best on your vocals. The WA8000 had a smooth and slightly more pronounced top end sparkle while the lower frequencies remained smooth sounding. the Lewitt sounded the most neutral and was not bad. For your vocals on that performance my order of choice would be WA8000 > CV12 > TF> . I'm curious what you ended up choosing for that song. BTW great vocals brother!
The WA-251 is the tube microphone I want, while the Avantone CV-12 is the tube microphone I can afford. Tempted to buy a couple of FET microphones and sell them later, just so I can get the WA-251 at a more reasonable price
Tf29 won’t sound the exact same as the tf39 with both in cardioid mode, tf39 is a dual capsule, they tend to give more of a “3d” sound with more depth compared to a single capsule ( tf29 ) , still both are great
@@rylandweet7750untrue. This is why Telefunken provides samples of the TF39 to represent both of the models. Edit - I wrote to Telefunken and asked them if there was any difference between the two. Here was their response... "Hope you are well. Thank you for contacting TELEFUNKEN Elektroakustik. The TF39 microphone is sonically identical to the TF29, except there are two more polar patterns: Omni and Figure-8. Only the front capsule membrane is polarized in Cardioid, so the rear membrane will not really impact the sound in this case."
At the end of the da, we are all going to try to mix the vocal bright so it can Compared to industry standard vocals so the WA 8000 for me. it just makes it easy and already gets rid of a lot of that Heavy mud. Play back in your car and you will see what I mean about heavy mud
Can we get a best industry standard tube microphone shoutout? I’m sure it will get a million views fam! C800g x Telefunken ELAM 251 vs Neumann U67 x Akg C12 (if possible) x Blue Bottle Tube mic with the B6 capsule x Mojave x Wunder Cm49 x Manley Gold Reference x Chandler REDD would love to see you and challenge you to do this!
That Pure Tube sounds damn good - i might just have to add one of those to my collection. I already own a TF29 which is the single-pattern version of the TF39 and it’s definitely a close second as I expected. The TF29 is a no-brainer for the money. The WA8000 is garbage - it’s so noisy I thought he was grinding coffee while singing this track. The WA251 was better than expected but I also own a TF51 and it is hands-down the best sounding mic I’ve ever heard outside of 60s era C12s and U47s.
As an owner of CV-12 I gotta say. The mic is TOTALLY overhyped. I got one 3-4 years ago and I was really really disapointed. Whenever I switched back to my MXL V67i I kept asking myself - why am I not using this mic? It sounds so much better... so now I have my Avantone modified and even my brother painted it white so it doesn't sound or look like Avantone. Now it's a great mic that cost me around 750$ but sounds like a 2000$ mic
I actually really liked the presence of the WA 251 from this demo and the WA-8000 or TF 39 all incredible mics. I’d love to know your thoughts on the Lewitt LCT 1040 Tubed Condenser?
Incredible review great job thanks for sharing! Do you have a review for the Lauten Audio LT-386 Versus the Lewitt LCT 1040 Tube/FET Condenser Microphone System for male lead vocals like this similar vocal range and tone? I would love to hear these side by side or get your option on which mic you would go with overall in this price range of 3k to 4k?
i have sri-2, good interface, but i bought it before the price up, cost was about 250-300$, better then focusrite, but i think audient id4 or id14 is better
nice test with the dynaimc parts the focus in the upper mids to cut thru on a phone speaker probably the 8000, its down to not too much saturation in the mixing skills not to make tubes sound reedy and washy up top, retaining the centre definition, the puretube was quite cutting too
1:45 The $11000 are refering to a replica of a classic that is not even made by the same company. The Telefunken, that made the vintage 251 in the 1960s does not exist any more. The Telefunken today is an american company, that bought the rights to use the name Telefunken. The actual 251 will probably cost you 25-30k if you can even find one. Heiserman has a decent replica that will cost you 5k - still expensive, but the WA isn't worth to be called a replica imho and there are better mics for that money.
I own the entire Warm Audio range and almost every mic has a build quality issue. The badge on my CX12 is positioned so skew on the mic it’s scary. The WA251 shock mount I have is also shockingly skew… I guess they really just rush the process and avoid attention to detail 🤔
@@EdwardSmithMusic Thanks for your super quick reply! I own a few WA mics (not the CX12 - it's not my cup of tea) and 2 preamps - would agree in some points that there are some production issues in detail. Lucky me none are about the mic sound quality.
I'm wondering why you left out so many other simlar price range tube mics out of this..Knowing that some of them surely were better than your worse one you have. You said the Warm Audio WA-251 had "9 different Polar Patterns" is this correct??
TF 39 sounded best in my opinion in your voice. I am looking for a tube/valve microphone and i am so intrigued by the sE Electronics Gemini ii , what is your view in this particular microphone?
Great comparison, thanks for the video! Just my opinion, but I would lose the autotune. You have a really nice voice; imperfection is what makes us sound human and compelling (IMHO).
The thing to listen for first is the sibilance. All the SSS, FFF, TTT noises. IMO the WA-8000 gets them up front without that cheap China condenser distortion, nice and clear, crisp and without sounding brittle. But purely considering sibilance, the winner for me is the Lewitt. Zero hissy fizzy gristly grainy SSS and FFF, but absolutely clean and undistorted. Would not have expected that! The Copperhead has a weird dip in the mids, over-emphasized the lows and overall sounds dull to me. I find the Avantone hissy and farty and spitty and distorted in the sibilance, does nothing for me, also many horror stories of things going wrong with this. I had hoped to fall in love with the WA-251, just to talk myself out of investing in a Telefunken TF51, but sadly it did absolutely nothing for me, I failed to detect any character or personality. Lewitt for perfection (that will require EQ later) and WA-8000 for aggressive in-your-face crispness without distortion. Thanks for this!
Hey bro I have the Wa-8000 wondering about getting another mic what tube mic would recommend was looking at the 251 warm audio but what other options yu think would be a upgrade from the 8000
Are you aware that you are killing your mics by positioning them with the capsule at the top? Tubes heat up and heat rises damaging the capsules. Turn them upside-down so that there is no heat damage. SAVE YOUR MICS!!!
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So who’s the best microphone for you ?
My favs: Lewitt and Telefunken
That Tf39 got the smooth high end from WA8000 + the warmth from pure tube, no wonder it sells for its price.
Wa251 is my most used mic in the studio. We own wa8000, Neumann u87, rode k2, ntk, Gemini II, z5600! Also a Luke Audio y56 handmade tubemic from Nashville.
My go to mic is still often the WA251!
@JdsbleedoHi! It sounds really nice with a telefunken or Mullard tube installed! Very nice mic for Everything!
So the wa251 is the way to go?
@@CalebxRashadyes I'd get one of those and a shure ksm42 . With those you'd be on your way .
@@carl-magnusconsitt7389I know this is 6 months old but I was wondering if you could tell me if the Gemeni II is similar to the wa8000? I’ve had the wa8000(LOVED IT) but I had to sell it. I miss it dearly and would love to buy it back from the store I sold it. But, my friend has offered to sell me his Gemini II at a really great price, so I’m stuck between the two. I mainly record rap vocals and have a pretty deep voice. I mix my vocals so they pop out of the mix almost 3d sounding in a way
Buy your wa8000 back, the Gemini has that tube sound, but noyhing fancy like your old wa8000. I love that mike also, i think you love the sound of that "Lundahl inside" ! The gemini is a armyknife in studio but not as punchy as the wa8000. ONE mike you will LOVE is the Lauten Audio -347 (I think thats the name) a fet-microphone that you will love if you loved your wa8000. Thats 3x3 sounds. You will have that wa8000 sound in that one but even better soundingvin the high sounding! Best mike I have ever heard! ATLANTIS 👍
I personally own the TF-39 and I LOVE that thing! It gets really good warmth and presence on vocals and that high-end is super nice. EQing has never been easier
I own the TF29. Which is basically the TF39 with one pattern. Cause I mainly use it for vocals.
I recently found out by myself that the capsules on TF29 an 39 are slightly diferents due the Variable polar patterns on the 39, so we have the 47 and the 47S capsules. I was very very curious, so last week i needed a TF39 cause allready own a TF29 and, my man, i listening diference betwen both on quality, maybe because the TF39 Capsule need to be different for Polar patterns. But i own a pro recording studio and i have a 30 year production ears, lol...I can tell you the TF39 even if that the only diference are on Polar patterns changing options, this 39 is in fact "Better" sounding then the TF29. So i was curious and i had my answer. For vocals on Cardioid The 39 is a better overall sounding MIC. Strange maybe, but true. Cheers my friend.@@djsilent01
*WA8000 transmits sound as realistic as possible and I like it the most as*
The lewit sounded so good. I wasn't expecting this.
Personally, i would choose the TF 39 and the Pure Tube. In this comparison, the TF 39 sounds the best Tone wise. It sounds Warmer and Smoother more than the others which is exactly what you need in a Tube Mic. The Pure Tube sounds Big and Thick more than all of the other mics which is exactly what the Pros look for when it comes to microphones
that cv 12 is legit! def going to buy one just from hearing this test
I had the Avatone CV-12 and I can vouch for the mic itself being an incredible male vocal mic, the overall build quality of the mic itself is fantastic, included components feel on the cheaper side, but overall it’s amazing for the price point you can’t go wrong, especially as this used to be $499.00 for the longest time and is now $399.00 I definitely plan to have one in my arsenal.
It is good, I own 1
i have the tf51 and im incredibly happy i got it. tf39 sounds great though. can never go wrong with telefunken.
thinking about getting one of the telefunkens or neumanns my personal fav mics
The TF just killed it on all levels!
8000 I like the most , closed my eyes and did this blind and my eyes always opened up to see this one. Sony esk mic is really good. I like how clean 🧼 the vocals is. When process you can’t really tell as much. Definitely love clean 🧼 tone
Love the grityness of the CV12
I really love the lewitt sound
I’m loving the sound of the TF39. Great review
We've got the CV12 here - I did have a pair of TF Copperheads which I liked as drum O/H , but the neutral sound of the CV-12 works on vocals - I also have a WA47, which I find a little tubby for some singers and sounds much like the old Copperhead, if not quite as rich - which can be a good thing. I'm thinking of trying a WA67 after a lot of comparison listening, also their U87 - for instance given what I've heard the WA67 for lead and WA87 for BV's could be good - WA are not Neumann or TF obviously, but at £2,700 for a U87 and £12,500 for an old U67, well - I can appreciate the vintage U67 sound, but an artist I played the comparison to preferred the sound of the new WA67 - go figure
Love your presentations by the way, nice and factual
Big fan of the telefunken based on this demo. Rich texture in those mids and really accentuated the grit without being remotely harsh. I bet it takes to an eq like a champ.
Recording is more important than a mic..😍
I think first you need to have a good composition/song, then a good performance, and then a good mic, but only if your room is not having reflections and reverb going on...
@@valerie98 But singing is above than these there.... If u don't have a technique to sing a song or that song which u made... Then no mic can survive you...
It depends. A great song with a bad quality recording can be brushed under the carpet. We have heard every song that can be possibly have been made. All now are copies of each other. A great mic with a super clean recording can be a life changer.
The TF 39 is the best sound warm and base good one ...
While it is clear in the video, the WA 251 has 3 polar patterns. The audio says it has 9 polar patterns.
Thanks for the awesome video! I just got an AV-12 as my first tube microphone in part thanks to this comparison.
I actually love the puretube the best in this demonstration.. its so warm.
I have a few dynamic and condenser microphones and just got my first ribbon microphone, I didn't think I'd get a tube microphone mostly because of the price, but after this video, I may have to try a tube mic! - Craig P. Smith
They all sound really close...the wa-8000 seemed a bit harsher on the highs. The cv-12 was a bit colorless. Winner was the telefunkin or lewit...the lewit 840 is better than the pure tube (fpr less $) fyi.
Amazing performance! Love your music!
N his voice also😍
I use the WA-251 a lot. However my newest microphone is The SA-87t from Stam Audio. It comes in at about $1000.00 with shipping from Chile if you order ahead. The wait is worth it. It is a one of a kind microphone. Stam Audio is the real deal to get clones tat are made with the highest quality at a reasonable price. I wanted to get the SA-47, A Neumann U-47 clone. It is about 2000.00 with shipping. My wife had a medical issue come up and Josh (the owner) let me switch. If I ever get the money to open a distribution shop Stan Audio would be one I would want first.
Ooooh never seen Ed sing out this loud and passionate 😢😢😢😢
But I kinda like the Pure tube ❤❤
the TF39 and the WA8000 in the first part sound really good. The CV12 is ok, as is the puretube, but those other two are some way ahead, IMVVHO, quite a "forward" sound.
100% and the wa8000 has more of a bottom end to it. I love that sound. The Copperhead I think does a little better in the high end tho
The CV12 and the WA8000 mixed and wet sound hands down the best on your vocals. The WA8000 had a smooth and slightly more pronounced top end sparkle while the lower frequencies remained smooth sounding. the Lewitt sounded the most neutral and was not bad. For your vocals on that performance my order of choice would be WA8000 > CV12 > TF> . I'm curious what you ended up choosing for that song. BTW great vocals brother!
Telefunken did you justice
The WA-251 is the tube microphone I want, while the Avantone CV-12 is the tube microphone I can afford. Tempted to buy a couple of FET microphones and sell them later, just so I can get the WA-251 at a more reasonable price
A good competitor here can be Stam Audio SA87T which is tube based as well.
How would you rank the LA-320 v2 against these tube mics?
Right I heard that thing was a beast especially when changing the tube
TF39 IS Awesome. If you don't need the polar patterns the TF29 is cheaper ($1295)
Tf29 won’t sound the exact same as the tf39 with both in cardioid mode, tf39 is a dual capsule, they tend to give more of a “3d” sound with more depth compared to a single capsule ( tf29 ) , still both are great
@@rylandweet7750untrue. This is why Telefunken provides samples of the TF39 to represent both of the models.
Edit - I wrote to Telefunken and asked them if there was any difference between the two. Here was their response...
"Hope you are well. Thank you for contacting TELEFUNKEN Elektroakustik. The TF39 microphone is sonically identical to the TF29, except there are two more polar patterns: Omni and Figure-8. Only the front capsule membrane is polarized in Cardioid, so the rear membrane will not really impact the sound in this case."
@@shannonadkinsmusic5767 go read up on capsules.
@@shannonadkinsmusic5767 so you think that a dual capsule sounds the same as a single capsule in cardioid mode?…….
I love the WA8000 overall. What a Mic.All great but that stood out in my opinion.
It’s way too bright for me!
@@officialWWM It is a bit bright but super clear. You can deal with the brightnes with EQ.
@@Microphones_Matter yeah, I just don’t like mics with an overhyped top end.
@@officialWWM I know what you mean. Had same problems with the Lewitt 440Pure
@@officialWWM I rather have more good quality information than not enough of it. You never know when you need it on a sound source.
TF39 is firee
telefunken is in another level vivid sound
WA8000 is 🔥
Which is better, the Pure Tube or the WA 8000?
TF39 gave me MJ vibes. That's my pick.
Your song is cool man!
The Tele wins for me- much higher capsule quality, but the Red TS mic is serious for that price too!, the Warm is cheap brittle sounding yuk...
Wa8000 is my next mic! 😅
MXL V69 M is also an excellent tube condenser mic.
At the end of the da, we are all going to try to mix the vocal bright so it can Compared to industry standard vocals so the WA 8000 for me. it just makes it easy and already gets rid of a lot of that Heavy mud. Play back in your car and you will see what I mean about heavy mud
I will pick the WA8000
I think the cv12 sounds great. What's your opinion about the cv12 cuz I'm about to buy a tube Mike for my home studio
Telefunken is the winner for me. The most balanced mic out of the lot…
Can we get a best industry standard tube microphone shoutout? I’m sure it will get a million views fam! C800g x Telefunken ELAM 251 vs Neumann U67 x Akg C12 (if possible) x Blue Bottle Tube mic with the B6 capsule x Mojave x Wunder Cm49 x Manley Gold Reference x Chandler REDD
would love to see you and challenge you to do this!
great microphones
dope content as usual
Please make a short of warm audio wa 251 and lewitt pure tube. I want to hear them side by side to make my final decision.
@@akg.69 I will try get this done for you this week 🫡
@@EdwardSmithMusic great! Waiting
That Pure Tube sounds damn good - i might just have to add one of those to my collection. I already own a TF29 which is the single-pattern version of the TF39 and it’s definitely a close second as I expected. The TF29 is a no-brainer for the money. The WA8000 is garbage - it’s so noisy I thought he was grinding coffee while singing this track. The WA251 was better than expected but I also own a TF51 and it is hands-down the best sounding mic I’ve ever heard outside of 60s era C12s and U47s.
I don't have the TF39 but i have TF 29. Things is beast.
It's sonically identical.
@@shannonadkinsmusic5767 Same mic the tf39 just has more polar patterns
@@JawillOwens yep. I have one as well :)
@@shannonadkinsmusic5767 Twins :)
Great singing btw
Thank you!! 🙏🏻
As an owner of CV-12 I gotta say. The mic is TOTALLY overhyped. I got one 3-4 years ago and I was really really disapointed. Whenever I switched back to my MXL V67i I kept asking myself - why am I not using this mic? It sounds so much better... so now I have my Avantone modified and even my brother painted it white so it doesn't sound or look like Avantone. Now it's a great mic that cost me around 750$ but sounds like a 2000$ mic
For me, the Warm Audio WA-251 hits different.
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I actually really liked the presence of the WA 251 from this demo and the WA-8000 or TF 39 all incredible mics.
I’d love to know your thoughts on the Lewitt LCT 1040 Tubed Condenser?
Gimme that lewitt mic please😂🔥
Wa251 has insane depth and warmth at the same time! Hated the c800 clone tho too much sibilants and self noise
Incredible review great job thanks for sharing! Do you have a review for the Lauten Audio LT-386 Versus the Lewitt LCT 1040 Tube/FET Condenser Microphone System for male lead vocals like this similar vocal range and tone? I would love to hear these side by side or get your option on which mic you would go with overall in this price range of 3k to 4k?
For sure taste issues, which sounds best. But Telefunken and Lewit have kinda better sound on these examples.
True tube hit me up i love that one for your voice
Love the sound of the warm audio 8000!❤
Where can i buy there popfilter?
its between the 251 and the TF39 on your voice. Both sound really good. The others sound far too forward to my ears
Can you make a review on the Fluid audio interface and their mic and maybe their fx50 monitors atleast one of the fluid audio products!
i have sri-2, good interface, but i bought it before the price up, cost was about 250-300$, better then focusrite, but i think audient id4 or id14 is better
@@g1n4ik29 im really digging their fx80s monitors
Are you plugging your headphones to you interfaces?
Tf39 all day
The Lauten 320 la missed the nominations
nice test with the dynaimc parts the focus in the upper mids to cut thru on a phone speaker probably the 8000, its down to not too much saturation in the mixing skills not to make tubes sound reedy and washy up top, retaining the centre definition, the puretube was quite cutting too
Can you suggest me the best condenser mics under $400, would be helpful for me in purchasing. Love from India for your videos
The Audio Technica AT4040 is great for under $300
@@EdwardSmithMusic Thanks mate, anything above $300 to $400, like aston spirit, lauten audio la220, warm audio 47jr, lewit 441
Shure KMS32
Advanced Audio is awesome and very reasonable in price!
lewitt is amazing
Lewitt🎉just listen😅
1:45 The $11000 are refering to a replica of a classic that is not even made by the same company. The Telefunken, that made the vintage 251 in the 1960s does not exist any more. The Telefunken today is an american company, that bought the rights to use the name Telefunken. The actual 251 will probably cost you 25-30k if you can even find one. Heiserman has a decent replica that will cost you 5k - still expensive, but the WA isn't worth to be called a replica imho and there are better mics for that money.
Quality issues of Warm Audio??
I own the entire Warm Audio range and almost every mic has a build quality issue. The badge on my CX12 is positioned so skew on the mic it’s scary. The WA251 shock mount I have is also shockingly skew… I guess they really just rush the process and avoid attention to detail 🤔
@@EdwardSmithMusic Thanks for your super quick reply! I own a few WA mics (not the CX12 - it's not my cup of tea) and 2 preamps - would agree in some points that there are some production issues in detail. Lucky me none are about the mic sound quality.
That tf39 sounds beautiful 🥲 the price 🥲
I'm wondering why you left out so many other simlar price range tube mics out of this..Knowing that some of them surely were better than your worse one you have. You said the Warm Audio WA-251 had "9 different Polar Patterns" is this correct??
Nice song? Which song is this?
do we need external mic pream for tube mic ?
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TF 39 sounded best in my opinion in your voice. I am looking for a tube/valve microphone and i am so intrigued by the sE Electronics Gemini ii , what is your view in this particular microphone?
I haven't got my hands on the Gemini ii just yet. Hopefully soon 💪
Great comparison, thanks for the video!
Just my opinion, but I would lose the autotune. You have a really nice voice; imperfection is what makes us sound human and compelling (IMHO).
I wanna try Tube 😭😭😭😭
Why didn't you take the WA47 in this comparison?
The WA-47 is a great mic, and could definelty challenge some of these.
@@EdwardSmithMusic Would you prefer it over the wa251 and wa8000 if i want deeper sounding vocals with more body?
is possible to use mic pream with tube mic?
Can the pure tube fit into a different shock mount ?
1st-Pure Tube, 2nd TF39 . The rest drop off significantly.
The thing to listen for first is the sibilance. All the SSS, FFF, TTT noises. IMO the WA-8000 gets them up front without that cheap China condenser distortion, nice and clear, crisp and without sounding brittle. But purely considering sibilance, the winner for me is the Lewitt. Zero hissy fizzy gristly grainy SSS and FFF, but absolutely clean and undistorted. Would not have expected that! The Copperhead has a weird dip in the mids, over-emphasized the lows and overall sounds dull to me. I find the Avantone hissy and farty and spitty and distorted in the sibilance, does nothing for me, also many horror stories of things going wrong with this. I had hoped to fall in love with the WA-251, just to talk myself out of investing in a Telefunken TF51, but sadly it did absolutely nothing for me, I failed to detect any character or personality. Lewitt for perfection (that will require EQ later) and WA-8000 for aggressive in-your-face crispness without distortion. Thanks for this!
"What microphone do you choose?"
@@user-go7nx1kf8m Telefunken TF51
Rode K2 is a great one.
I’m just waiting for him to give his biggest fan a mic 😅
This guy trying to put on his best “radio announcer” voice is hilarious 😂
And he yodle all the dam Time when he sing
Too much compression and eq on these vocals. Great voice though! would sound more commercial if you’d ease up on the eq
Can you power them using the 48v feature on an audio interface or do you need the external power source? Specifically wondering about the cv 12
Tube mics require the external power source, which comes with the mic. They don't use 48v.
the best cv-12 and w8000, cv-12 is the best for this price i think, but in condenser world of mic`s we have soyuz and se mics with the same price
But do these mics auto-tune?!?
Hey bro I have the Wa-8000 wondering about getting another mic what tube mic would recommend was looking at the 251 warm audio but what other options yu think would be a upgrade from the 8000
Is it too harsh? I’m stuck between the 251 and c800 for rap
@@craigwilson2568 for a rap I would go 800 251 is a more well rounded mic tho if record more than rap vocals
CM800T
I prefer the tf51
Just returned the Telefunken for the WA-8000. The Telefunken was way too dark for my voice!
8000 👍
Why not adding the Vanguard v13? Definitely a winner in that category
Are you aware that you are killing your mics by positioning them with the capsule at the top? Tubes heat up and heat rises damaging the capsules. Turn them upside-down so that there is no heat damage. SAVE YOUR MICS!!!
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Thanks I needed to know that before I purchased my first tube mic
Thinking about it I have seen most tube mics upside down in reviews.
My condenser mic is crushed because I used to turn it upside down and it slipped out once or twice. It still works well (I think) but it looks smushed now