Spyro Lore - Did Spyro and Cynder Survive Dawn of the Dragon's Ending? Part I

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  • @johnylitalo4163
    @johnylitalo4163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I want Cynder to be a part of the Dragon Kingdom as King Spyro's queen.

    • @Naturechains
      @Naturechains 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Umm there married 4 weeks ago that I heard about so far.

    • @johnylitalo4163
      @johnylitalo4163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Naturechains Where was that?

    • @artistanthony1007
      @artistanthony1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't.

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Naturechains nah they scientifically wouldn't have escaped the catacombs. Sorry but spyro realistically gets eaten and destroyed and MALEFOR wins and cynder is MALEFORs queen once the golem brings her to him XD

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnylitalo4163 in the golems mouth because that's where SCIENTIFICALLY Spyro would end up. No escaping the catacombs. Way too big golem and mass. And spyro doesn't have enough muscles on him. To even be able to do it

  • @gamerfreak5665
    @gamerfreak5665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That's really cool, I never knew about Spyro's Kingdom.
    I think either theory stands, because the series is called the "Legend" of Spyro, and many real life stories of legends refer to someone who has died for a cause or is only remembered by older generations passed down through time. On the other hand, the Chronicler clearly stated that he could not find Spyro or Cynder in that book, so they must have been alive in some way or another. Whether that is in their current dragon forms or something else entirely, I don't know. I will say it's interesting the ending scene cut to constellations that look like the both of them.
    I have another theory that maybe after Spyro used his power to fix the world, he encased himself and Cynder in crystal a second time, but this time in the middle of the earth.

    • @artistanthony1007
      @artistanthony1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dragon Time wasn't used, he used Aether and Aether clearly just helped Spyro & Cynder to continue as spirits, they're spirits.

    • @FREGFAT
      @FREGFAT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@artistanthony1007 what about the book of death, the Chronicler couldnt find they're names in that book. So they are alive

    • @artistanthony1007
      @artistanthony1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FREGFAT They are in the spiritual plane because Ignitus is a spirit also but looks himself because Celestial Caves, a Metaphysical Location on an Island which is like a bridge between the physical and spiritual plane, they're definitely in Avalar but not in the Physical Realm. You can also see that structure in space because in culture, you die and leave a star but given how Spyro used Aether and follows the path of the Being of Light (confirmed entity by Jared), he gets a more "bigger" gift for his sacrifice.

  • @DracoFlameborn
    @DracoFlameborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I doubt Spyro would let harm come to Cynder. I feel the devs just didnt get to her yet, im sure they're both happy leading a kingdom together.

  • @ritanman9578
    @ritanman9578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Cool theory
    Personally I believe they actually survived and later on after probably 3 year they would have been back to their friends and home world
    And later on when they grow up Spyro could have become king or a leader of the dragon guardians and Cynder could have become Spyro's mate and a dragon guardian, probably

  • @IllusionMaster17
    @IllusionMaster17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Since I ended the Legend of Spyro trilogy, I always think about what happened to Spyro and Cynder. And still do.
    It is one of the few things that doesn't let me sleep many times and makes me overthink about them and their future, but helped me to find the comfort and excitement in fanfics.
    I believe they survived, because if the Chronicler couldn't find them in the book of dead dragons and we can see them fly in the sky freely, it could mean they finally can live in peace and together free of war and darkness.
    About how they escaped from the core still makes me wonder how that worked. Possibly, because Spyro is a purple dragon, and his powers are much more complex that the usual, he maybe managed to harness his power to send him and Cynder outside while restoring the earth, and maybe it has something to do with his dark side still present on him. (?)
    Although the other theories also sound good, as maybe they are flying in their afterlife or them flying symbolizes their souls free from the deeds they accomplished.
    Now, considering that Spyro's Kingdom is a sequel of The Legend of Spyro, maybe I think they just focused on Spyro, as in the game, it looks that he's not the main protagonist, and serves more like a role to listen, so probably Cynder is not anywhere.
    In more depth, surely as Spyro is a king (like the game's name suggestes) Cynder would be his queen (I honestly love this idea) that just wasn't shown yet, or other thing would be that Cynder left to find her own destiny just like she wanted in TEN, and maybe came back to Spyro or not.
    For so long, I've waited anything new related to The Legend of Spyro. The trilogy was so amazing and epic!
    This really sent me back to the first time I played DOTD and how much I went to know Spyro, Cynder, their world and story through every danger and corner, awaiting mystery and epicness.
    Great video!

    • @joshnel7925
      @joshnel7925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there would still be war and darkness after malefor just not the same darkness

  • @dralink96
    @dralink96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    about theories, i have my own theory about spyro story.
    I think that all spyro games(without count mobile versions because never see them) it's the one long story in different time.
    I think legends of spyro it's the beginning of the story, as we could see at the end the planet crack and after spyro stop we still see flying lands, this made me think that skylanders is the continue of the story after long time, we have the idea of lands in sky that is typical for spyro games, they could be small islands in sky or very big that detail connect all 3 series of spyro's games to one(legends, skylanders, original trilogy(spyro reignited).
    I'm not sure which is going to be next after legends is it skylanders or original trilogy but i strong belive they all connected and each spyro is just another reincarnation of spyro as we can know from legends(begin of a new beginning) each 10 generations is born one purple dragon.... maybe it's also count cynder.
    At skylanders serial in 3 season we end that spyro go search his family of dragons that stuck somewhere in the world, but now we never know where and what will happen, only thing we know is they are the same type of dragon as spyro by type of tail end.
    In the original series we also have dragons lands and need to free dragons in first game, then we teleporting very far away to lands that don't have dragons in ripto rage and finally find out that there is dragoness wizard very far away and we need to save all eggs. the interest detail All worlds that we visited they are skyland types, and as i said there could be sometimes big lands with water worlds like very big aquarium. +if the planet earth type so we have a lot of ocean water so after earth crack it should somewhere to be, right? it's can't disappear nowhere.
    I thought about it very long time and figure out more and more details about this theory.

  • @LucidPhoton
    @LucidPhoton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I guess Spyro's Kingdom was the closest we ever got to a sequel. I didn't like him becoming a king tho tbh.
    Doing what if stories if stories is an interesting idea tho dude! There's a ton you can do with it!
    Maybe do another video going into more detail and trying to explain other plot points from the games? DotD could use a lot of explanations XD

  • @vincenthorn4767
    @vincenthorn4767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I first played the PS2 version and saw the ending I cried so bad because I loved Spyro and cynder so much

  • @FeralWarmonger
    @FeralWarmonger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If we take the Skylanders comics into consideration, I personally believe Spyro DID survive yet somehow found himself in another world with no memory of his past life.
    This other world is the Skylands, where he meets that world's version of Cynder and the other Skylanders.
    Since in the Return of the Dragon King comic, it's said by Malefor (Who's the villian in that comic) that he and Spyro have battled before. (Possibly a nod to their battle in DotD)
    How Spyro ended up in Skylands is anyone's guess, but it's a fun thing to think about!

    • @gachromvisimu4437
      @gachromvisimu4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except those characters designed style are not match familiar like realism, cartoon and chibi

    • @artistanthony1007
      @artistanthony1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That doesn't explain why Cynder is with him, they're spirits living in the Spiritual Plane, Ignitus found his way to Celestial Caves/White Isle and he is also a spirit but looks in full form just because he can be seen.

    • @mixmaster2544
      @mixmaster2544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Believe it or not but I used to think that when skylanders became a thing
      That or what if This Spyro is a completely different Alternative Universe Spyro in the skylander universe

  • @AMT_AllMyThoughts
    @AMT_AllMyThoughts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn that ending and this soundtrack in the credits just hitted me so damn diffrent back then

  • @gachromvisimu4437
    @gachromvisimu4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Legend Spyro has continuity have required with Elemental dragon guardian even Ignitus become Chronicle, especially old characters.
    Devs confirmed Spyro continue Legends series in Spyro's Kingdom basically under Prototype, they can subject decision those people respond like things are cancel considering like Bring Malefor back in original world not the one Spyro whom restored Planet been cracked.

  • @trainlover16
    @trainlover16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been lying awake a few recent nights because I couldn’t stop thinking about this question. The chronicler himself said that he couldn’t find a trace of Spyro in his book of dead dragons, so he and Cynder must have survived. But the theory that Spyro could have been reborn into a later life is also plausible. But also, before Spyro brought the world back together, the voice of Ignitus told him that dragon’s spirits live on and bind themselves with nature. So wouldn’t those dragons who bind themselves with nature go into the book anyway, since both things are apparently what happen to all dead dragons? Or did Spyro not go into the book because being the rare purple dragon, his type of spirit is the only one capable of reincarnating itself into another purple dragon body? And most importantly of all, how the hell did they get out of the centre of the world once it was back together if they weren’t reincarnated? I have no clue, it’s all very confusing.
    I personally don’t consider Spyro becoming a king canon to the universe timeline post DOTD, but I’d absolutely like to believe that both he and Cynder survived and went on to live a quiet, peaceful and happy life together.
    I’d appreciate it if you made a sequel video to this clearing up all my confusion, and telling us how you think it most likely went down, then I’ll hopefully be able to understand the ending more clearly.
    Thank you.

    • @loreofthedragon
      @loreofthedragon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, I’ll probably be making a follow up video soonish on those questions, though most of it will just be my own opinion I think. How it went down following DotD is always interesting to create stories about, but actually getting a factual idea of what happened is well… difficult

    • @artistanthony1007
      @artistanthony1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they did survive but are spirits, same with Ignitus in Celestial Caves/White Isle.

    • @trainlover16
      @trainlover16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artistanthony1007 But if they’re spirits, then they should technically be dead, and should show up the book. So how are they not in the book if they no longer have physical bodies?

    • @artistanthony1007
      @artistanthony1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trainlover16 I think it has to do with Spyro using Aether and apparently the Being of Light had to have given him something more protective or whatever to keep him & Cynder safe in the spiritual plane, what we do know is that yes he died as in culture when you die, you leave a star in space but again because of that Element and the divine being, he gets a full on structure in the sky. Unfortunately we don't know much about of the universe except with help of Jared.

    • @trainlover16
      @trainlover16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artistanthony1007 How do you know he actually died. For all we know, the star structure could have just been the result of the energy he used to put the world back together reacting with the nuclear fusion of said stars.

  • @rickyrackey7930
    @rickyrackey7930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Idea-In the Reignited world, there is a terror of the skies that is a dark reflection of what Cynder could become. Similar how Carnage is a dark reflection of Venom.

    • @theresurrecteddragon34
      @theresurrecteddragon34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yesyesyeyseysy

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theresurrecteddragon34 Like that idea. His/her name could be Ravage

    • @theresurrecteddragon34
      @theresurrecteddragon34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickyrackey7930 I was thinking Scythe representing the Grim Reaper

  • @Dragon66898
    @Dragon66898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought it was obvious that they survived since they where flying in the Avalar and the fact it was stated that the book gained a new page when ever a dragon died but there was nothing.

    • @loreofthedragon
      @loreofthedragon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True, though even then it was always up for debate apparently, I tend to think the same but I tend to try to keep an open mind about this particular subject

  • @mokusstories
    @mokusstories 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to theorize that those 'Ancestors' may have been the previous purple dragons. I Assumed That Spyro & Cynder were still alɪve based on what the Chronicler said to Ignitus: Maybe Spyro{+ Possibly Cynder} are located somewhere inbetween both the 'Spirit World/Afterlɪfe' & The 'Living World' - Which could explain why the Chronicler couldn't find them. Tho this is just a theory.

  • @trystanbernardie2398
    @trystanbernardie2398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They survived, no trace of them inside the book of dead dragons

  • @RespawnGod
    @RespawnGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldn't consider it canon as it wasn't brought into being but depending how far they got with idea it could give guidelines to how things could have unfolded

  • @mr.vincent5824
    @mr.vincent5824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly I never knew about spyros kingdom that’s new to me. But tbh I just read the comics online and just go with those. But I do hope cynder is spyros queen tho.

  • @LaterTazor
    @LaterTazor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You didn't mention the Chronicler couldn't find Spyro in the book of Dead Dragons, this proves at least he lives after saving the world and because we see Cynder and Spyro flying in the sky, its safe to presume they live.
    The speculation begins there though, I want in my heart for Spyro and Cynder to continue, have the relationship that was confirmed by the devs, to see children
    Like, what would Spyro's and Cynder's child look like? We see a lot of fan art but it would of been nice to see.

    • @loreofthedragon
      @loreofthedragon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, though the debate on the fates of Spyro and Cynder never stopped with the book, even if I agreed with it. I’m making a follow up video on that, and most likely a more detailed idea of what went down after, but yeah I didn’t mention it eck

    • @LaterTazor
      @LaterTazor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@loreofthedragon MORE CONTENT HYPE!

  • @Franklinsbrother
    @Franklinsbrother 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Spyro's Kingdom took place a Millennium after Dawn of the Dragon? The Spyro we see in the game is actually a new Purple Dragon named after Spyro, with the original Spyro and Cynder having become legends.

  • @hooktailjr1348
    @hooktailjr1348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lore of the dragon in my opinion I would say they didn't survive after the end but just showed Spyro and Cynder in the spirit realm which pretty much explains why Ignitus couldn't find them because both Spyro and Cynder are considered well...dead however I do believe there spirits still remained in the center of the world to keep Malefor sealed away for all time. Eventually that time will become legend and of course to the point of just becoming a myth meaning the legend of the purple dragon of Spyro and Malefor were completely forgotten that is until Reignited happened. I would say that in time Spyro became reincarnated through that timeline but doesn't know a thing about mastering all elements nore does he know the legend of the past. As for Cynder I would say she too was reincarnated but her personality is now different seeing that she now lives an easy life just like Spyro but lives in another realm. Of course if Malefor was to come back he would most likely be a fossil discovered by a new villain rather it be Gnasy Nork, Ripto or Red and when that happens they would most likely try to resurrect him which will give him a new body of that of an elder dragon but dangerous should Spyro 4 happen.

    • @markofabecic6824
      @markofabecic6824 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's actually pretty interesting. Considering in reignited appear floating islands in dream weavers (probably caused by Dawn of the dragon ending), it would also be proof why Ripto hates dragons (because of Malefor or war), and dragons in reignited seem more advanced than in Legend of Spyro (long time would pass by)

  • @thegoodgamingdragon8523
    @thegoodgamingdragon8523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yes

  • @mako7054
    @mako7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe so. The ancestors gave Spyro and Cynder a second chance of sorts for saving the world.

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      No REALISTICLY spyro and cynder wouldn't have escaped the catacombs. The golem is way too strong and Spyro doesn't have enough muscles on him scientifically to overcome it. He'd be eaten and destroyed and MALEFOR would win without the rushed plot armor.

  • @codymerrell976
    @codymerrell976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guessing They Remain hiding in another demission somewhere

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      No REALISTICLY spyro and cynder wouldn't have escaped the catacombs. The golem is way too strong and Spyro doesn't have enough muscles on him scientifically to overcome it. He'd be eaten and destroyed and MALEFOR would win without the rushed plot armor.

  • @gavinhayesdinofang1276
    @gavinhayesdinofang1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to believe that they did.

  • @Asterlilacc
    @Asterlilacc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like most people, I believe they survived, but everyone is open to their own interpretation :)
    As for the idea of Spyro being king is... interesting? I mean, I never really imagined Spyro being a king but he and Cynder would obviously be looked on in high regard for saving the world and whatnot. Though, I do wonder how hierarchy works within the Legends universe.

  • @theresurrecteddragon34
    @theresurrecteddragon34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I say they lived. I did think for a while Ignitus lived because we see him at the aftermath of the game. I come to accept he has passed. Rip.
    also YEAH my name was mentioned WOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @Dejroslaw2448
    @Dejroslaw2448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion this must be canon

  • @johnkoester7795
    @johnkoester7795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like they’re alive

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      No REALISTICLY spyro and cynder wouldn't have escaped the catacombs. The golem is way too strong and Spyro doesn't have enough muscles on him scientifically to overcome it. He'd be eaten and destroyed and MALEFOR would win without the rushed plot armor.

    • @johnkoester7795
      @johnkoester7795 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Golems_victory but at the end of the game, it seems like they’re in the valley of Avalar

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnkoester7795 yeah but I’m arguing about the quick time event in the catacombs. The last one realistically MALFOR would have won. Spyro by biology and physics wouldn’t at all been able to pull Cynder free. He would be eaten and destroyed. It’s ridiculous plot armor and a huge plot hole. Showing the game was rushed. If they had time maybe when if you hit the button correctly hunter shoots the golem in the eye that would be the only way and reasonable way it’d let go of her. Other than that it’s not gonna let go of cynder by pure physics and mass. I'm arguing by pure biology and science. Spyro had no real chance in that situation without plot armor. Also MALEFOR would win and cynder probably gets eaten ALSO XD. They wouldn't have escaped the catacombs Realistically the bad guy would have won. Also after Spyro and cynder gets ate. The golem eats the guardians and a whole bunch of dragon civilians... XD and the world goes boom. 💥 XD oh don't forget Cynders sobs and screams after it ATE SPYRO XD the ending scene doesn't matter they'd never get to malefor. Without plot armor

    • @johnkoester7795
      @johnkoester7795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Golems_victory I apologize

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnkoester7795 u don’t have to apologize buddy. Also I’m just arguing that MALFOR would have won realistically if there wasn’t that plot armor and plot holes. Plus hopefully my dark humor about Cynder screaming NOOOOOOOO! when Spyro gets eaten made you laugh...XD unless you don’t like dark humor. Especially when the villains win.XD

  • @muammarfarismohdsharan5589
    @muammarfarismohdsharan5589 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spyro become king

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably not as the game was never completed and became Skylanders instead. So for now it remains a possibility. That being said I think Cynder would be Spyro's queen and head enforcer who likes to work in the background. If she did get killed then it would be through a combination of a well executed plan and a lot of luck.

  • @VITAS874
    @VITAS874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    spyro x cynder flying together I place like in big valley where no one bother them. and in future become he is king and she his queen. I would be wish I become a dragon

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว

      No REALISTICLY spyro and cynder wouldn't have escaped the catacombs. The golem is way too strong and Spyro doesn't have enough muscles on him scientifically to overcome it. He'd be eaten and destroyed and MALEFOR would win without the rushed plot armor.

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Golems_victory you talk about alternative evil ending. That lame

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Golems_victory and are you in smoke? it's magic world Spyro is chosen one he can kill it without problem. same with malefor.

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VITAS874 no. He didn’t use magic also he doesn’t enough muscles on him to even pull her free. The golems way way way too big. It’s plot armor. Realistically the quick time event fail is what happens. Plus it’s what happens naturally. So yeah the daek master wins and his golem gets a meal. XD I’m not wrong scientifically. Even if it’s fiction he didn’t use magic, he still would have been eaten and destroyed. Also MALEFORs the chosen one. Spyro is golem food XD(LAST BIT WAS A DARK JOKE) also no he couldn't destroy them without that plot armor. They had no chance once to golem grabs cynder. He'll be destroyed no problem. If Hunter shot it in the eye of u hit the button right then it'd be passable since it getting shot would be the only reason it let go of cynder. It wouldn't let go from a tiny dragon. (Spyro and his pathetic scaly butt would be ate realistically. ) XD it does eat him whole so that joke humor bit wasn't wrong XD

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Golems_victory to much text man. we know spyro x cynder win canon and in future become rulers of dragons. Queen cynder and king spyro. For dark content you need go in another place.