Everything looks onpoint and with realistic decisions from the fighters. In regards to their desperation. Also this is what every original Dragonball fan wanted to see. The Human Z-fighters utilize the Kaioken, if also with barely a difference in how the battle will occur.
I believe the fact they didn't learn Kaioken at Master Kai could be explained by the fact that they spent much less time than Goku at the planet. Goku spent there like 9 months (I guess it took him long to get there). They could be at King Kai's planet 1 month tops, given they were brought back by Dragon balls relativly quick (I guess Namek saga was around 2 months).
@@urostodic1244 In general this design-decision defied the logic of friendship & teamspirit. Tien was proud and might not have taken on a technique so easily, but in the end they all kinda switched between their techniques. Yamcha, Krillin & Tien. Together with Goku. If Goku knows something, a technique giving those who can't turn all goldyboy at least a weaker form of goldyboy, it is a nobrainer for me that he would do it immediately. 🤗 In the earlierst builds people said SSJ was x40 addition of strenght from the base-stat and not the crazy numbers I've seen afterwards for whatever reason. And Kaioken x20 would *at least* be half a SSJ for people without Zenkaiboosts and much lesser progress. Put the fusion on top of a "Tiencha" and that might have been a valuable comrade who could have given Goku or someone else the perfect 10 to 20 more seconds needed for... _" A special beam cannon? "_ 😏 Could have been, would have been, but didn't. Tien's Kikoho was the official biggest Human win moment in canon lore. And I am proud of him for that. But there could have been more. Just because it is cooler. They were Goku's first friends, rivals and comrades by a long shot. And then they get sidelined like vermin just to highlight how much stronger the Sayans are. And people say PICCOLO 😆🥒 was sidelined, or Gohan... with his wierd rage-boost power. Nah. No one was abandonded more than the Human Z-fighters.
Yall are forgetting, the original time line is where everyone lived when cooler and frieza came to earth. It was the ANDROIDS that killed all the fighters. This has been said a few times in the dbz episodes during this saga. Goku even says he would have instant transmission to make it in time to fight off them both
Nobody said they haven`t been killed by Cold and Freiza and then revived and killed by Androids. It would be milions times harder to belive not even one of them died durning that battle.
There was no stone in this video! Lol Also I've always been curious as to what happened in the original time line when trunks didn't intervene so this is cool!
Well, Dokkan Battle somewhat showed what happened, as Veeta and the others get ready to battle Cold and Frieza, Goku teleports in and basically wipes them out instantly 😅
To answer that cliffhanger question: King Kai can try to help Goku probably teleport towards New Namek like he did in the canon Cell saga after the Time Chamber training.
Stupid yes .... Yamcha must be strong like Vegeta when he arrived on Earth with Nappa (or almost) so he can fight and kill the basic soldiers of Freezer
if you think about it he couldve fused in the saiyan saga too i guess kami is just stubborn and wont do it until he felt something as terrible as cell@@babyfaceaviator7862
@pix3188 The Z fighters sensed Frieza coming a long time before Frieza got to Earth. For sure, a wise being like Kami could've sensed the evil headed the Planet's way, and should've called Piccolo to fuse.
Then Goku would've teleported in before the Battle begins and instantly wipe out Frieza and Cold As Dokkan Battle showed, or well explained, slightly how the Mecha Frieza arc in the Future Timeline went
"To be fair, he IS putting Yamcha in danger" Oh screw you Mondo. You know just as well as I do that Yamcha at this point could solo every soldier there.
@@aleksplavcev8044 Nah, he should be even stronger than that. He had a pl of about 1,500 when he went to King Kai's. And he & the others asked for tougher training than Goku received, so they should at LEAST receive similar gains to what Goku got when he trained there, if not more.
Tien's first attempt at spamming the Kikohu (Tribem) to win time, it makes sense that he has thought of this tactic already, but is still much weaker than what he would be against Cell.... but even Freeza was impressed..... this is the highlight of Tien's journey. also, where did Vegeta go after he ate the senzu bean?
To be fair, Piccolo’s probably keeping in mind that if he fuses with Kami, they won’t have dragon balls anymore. But I mean, in exchange for not *needing* the dragon balls at least for a while after this, I think that’s a fair trade. Especially since they also won’t have them if Piccolo just dies anyway.
yeah they were like 3 years away from dende being the next guardian. considering they knew way more about frieza than the androids i don’t see the issue in piccolo fusing half an arc early besides scaling. especially because they didn’t have dende in mind at the time, it was an equally/worse situation. i guess frieza was the result of piccolo being dead in the first place, they probably had some ‘no dragon balls’ trauma
That might've made an alternate timeline where goku dies from heart virus but they still deal with the androids the only possible threat is cell or maybe dabura but kaioshins would've prolly helped just like in future trunks timeline
@@aleksplavcev8044 yeah I was mistaken, looked it up and shows that he still arrived 3 (2 in anime) hours late. They also said he didn't learn IT... Which is kind of dumb by the time trunks showed up, Goku should have learned it by then.. And if he didn't use it in the original timeline then what was he 🤔🤔💀
Hey Mundo, How about a db fan manga antagonist tier list? You problably read the most important for a video like that. With your editing style this could be really enjoying. (Same goes for a db fan Manga arc tier list.) At the end i would likd to know how good they are compared to the antagonists of the original series. So you could change the tier's from f-s to (for example.) Cell Max - Majin Vegeta. (So that we have a reference how good they are.)
Future Trunks timeline perhaps? Everybody but Gohan dies, Goku finally arrives and kill Freeza and King Cold. Years later Goku will die due to the heart virus since he never got the antidote
Question: "WHERE IS FUTURE TRUNKS?!" Answer: This timeline is either Timeline 1: The Original Timeline (The timeline where Cell killed that timeline's version of Future Trunks, and stole his time machine to travel back 25 years from Age 788 to Age 763, and created Timeline 3: The History Of Trunks Timeline). OR..... This is Timeline 3: The History Of Trunks Timeline (The timeline where the version of Future Trunks that we see for the very first time comes from). In either case, there is no Future Trunks in either scenario, in which case Goku is obviously the one that killed Frieza and King Cold in both Timeline 1 and Timeline 3.
Vegeta is definitely out of character in this. Absolutely no way would end of Frieza (or is it Freeza I have no idea) saga/start of Android saga Vegeta say something like "Kakarot arrives in 3 hours. Do you think we'll survive until then?"
Still knowing how Frieza is, it's genuinely shocking that Frieza is still alive and now gotten lord knows how powerful even at base training in the time chamber for 10 years worth. It makes me wonder why he didn't finish off Goku and Vegeta
Trunks: Hey guys sorry i was late, i heard some country music on the radio and decided to listen to it since it doesn't exist where im from, then I realized its horrible and..... Ohhhh Crab baskets
This must have been what must have happened. Because how can the future Trunks even know about Freezer. Yeah so he's planned must have also been to come back and stop freezer
Cool stuff my one nitpick is that you guys took the very unoriginal idea of piccolo losing his limbs and you guys did it twice. I guess he has more delicate limbs than the other fighters 😂😂😂
This can't be trunks timeline because Goku already knew IT by the time they show up. He literally says he was about to teleport in to fuck them up but sensed trunks
This doesn't actually make sense because Goku would of been there when Frieza and King Cold landed on Earth. He could sense their evil power approaching Earth but didn't instant transmission because he also sensed someone else stronger that was fighting against them ( when Trunks turned SS). This was mentioned in the series even.
@@aleksplavcev8044 No haha, in the official manga he says Goku would of killed Frieza and he somehow(Trunks) changed time because he was arriving after Frieza. In the manga he also said he senses them and could of teleported there if he wanted.
My guess is that this IS Future Trunks' timeline. The one in which it was Goku who defeated Cold and Freeza.
My guess too
Has to be
In that original timeline everything survives as Goku use teleport to arrive and defeat Frieza and Cold
Actually a really good twist of this timeline is that vegeta transforms during this fight and kills king cold. Goku arrives and kills frieza
well it's definitely not the"unseen" timeline.
King Cold: I'm doing this for my pretty pink Princess!
Frieza: Daddy, not in front of the help!!! T^T
We've revisited this story times over and each time it proves intriguing
I like how honorable Cold seemed in this.
Is it my turn ?
the amount of times I screamed PICCOLO GET YO ASS OVER TO KAMIS AND FUSE WITH HIM SO YOU CAN ONE SHOT THIS MF, is crazy😂
Fr😂
Nice! The King Cold I've always wanted to see has been pictured in this fancomic!
Everything looks onpoint and with realistic decisions from the fighters. In regards to their desperation.
Also this is what every original Dragonball fan wanted to see. The Human Z-fighters utilize the Kaioken, if also with barely a difference in how the battle will occur.
I believe the fact they didn't learn Kaioken at Master Kai could be explained by the fact that they spent much less time than Goku at the planet. Goku spent there like 9 months (I guess it took him long to get there). They could be at King Kai's planet 1 month tops, given they were brought back by Dragon balls relativly quick (I guess Namek saga was around 2 months).
@@urostodic1244
In general this design-decision defied the logic of friendship & teamspirit.
Tien was proud and might not have taken on a technique so easily, but in the end they all kinda switched between their techniques.
Yamcha, Krillin & Tien.
Together with Goku.
If Goku knows something, a technique giving those who can't turn all goldyboy at least a weaker form of goldyboy, it is a nobrainer for me that he would do it immediately. 🤗
In the earlierst builds people said SSJ was x40 addition of strenght from the base-stat and not the crazy numbers I've seen afterwards for whatever reason.
And Kaioken x20 would *at least* be half a SSJ for people without Zenkaiboosts and much lesser progress.
Put the fusion on top of a "Tiencha" and that might have been a valuable comrade who could have given Goku or someone else the perfect 10 to 20 more seconds needed for...
_" A special beam cannon? "_ 😏
Could have been,
would have been, but didn't.
Tien's Kikoho was the official biggest Human win moment in canon lore.
And I am proud of him for that.
But there could have been more.
Just because it is cooler.
They were Goku's first friends, rivals and comrades by a long shot.
And then they get sidelined like vermin just to highlight how much stronger the Sayans are.
And people say PICCOLO 😆🥒
was sidelined, or Gohan... with his wierd rage-boost power.
Nah.
No one was abandonded more than the Human Z-fighters.
You're remake of the series was more than worth it
WHY DO WE LOVE IT HERE?!??!
TAIYOKEN!!!
Then followed with the best!!!
KIKOHO!!!!! EVER!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMN I'm so pumped!!
Yall are forgetting, the original time line is where everyone lived when cooler and frieza came to earth. It was the ANDROIDS that killed all the fighters. This has been said a few times in the dbz episodes during this saga. Goku even says he would have instant transmission to make it in time to fight off them both
I have a feeling that this isnt the original timeline but a close alternative. It wouldn't shock me if vegeta transforms here
Cooler ??? No ... King Cold
Nobody said they haven`t been killed by Cold and Freiza and then revived and killed by Androids. It would be milions times harder to belive not even one of them died durning that battle.
@@freespeech3817 nobody will be killed ... this fan made was posted 4 years ago
Type "Goku lost arc"
@@garytaylor8193 A close alternate indeed. Vegeta doesn't have his pink shirt on.
There was no stone in this video! Lol
Also I've always been curious as to what happened in the original time line when trunks didn't intervene so this is cool!
Well, Dokkan Battle somewhat showed what happened, as Veeta and the others get ready to battle Cold and Frieza, Goku teleports in and basically wipes them out instantly 😅
Bro King Cold is so underratted, hes one of my favourites
To this day, it's funny that Tien acts all morally superior when it comes to Vegeta. He himself was an assassin.
I mean Vegeta blew up planets tien only killed certain people
vegeta only did it to planets he was assigned too or had to go to, to find something@@neatyeat
when did tien kill everyone on a planet
Can't wait for part 2? This is tight.
Remember, when Trunks broke the statue of Piccolo into pieces? So...Piccolo should be able to regenerate himself, no?
@@luissuazo3684 yes, and Cold didn't cut it.
@@luissuazo3684 like perfect Cell ? 😉
To answer that cliffhanger question: King Kai can try to help Goku probably teleport towards New Namek like he did in the canon Cell saga after the Time Chamber training.
That's how Dende arrived on Earth in the canonical main timeline. But Goku by this point likely would have more trouble trying to get there.
Unless goku asks king kai to speak to the namekians with telepathy for goku.
“He IS putting Yamcha in great danger” Mondo that’s FOUL 💀
Stupid yes .... Yamcha must be strong like Vegeta when he arrived on Earth with Nappa (or almost) so he can fight and kill the basic soldiers of Freezer
Nah slim, that joke was weak af, not to mention inaccurate being that we all know Yamcha could solo every soldier there.
okay this is better than todays offical material . tien yamcha using kaioken is awasome
With Future Trunks gone, will the Z-Warriors and Vegeta hold off against Mecha Frieza and King Cold until Goku arrives?! Find out on Dragon Ball Z!
Of course they will survive ...
It vegeta gets a zenkai boost similar to on name then yes he could hold off frieza but won’t be winning in base he would still need ssj
Great work as usual, Mondo Cool. This story makes me beg the question, "Why didn't Piccolo and Kami fuse to face Mecha Frieza and King Cold?"
They didn't have time.
@@mAcChaosCh they could've used the Time Chamber and fused there.
if you think about it he couldve fused in the saiyan saga too
i guess kami is just stubborn and wont do it until he felt something as terrible as cell@@babyfaceaviator7862
@@babyfaceaviator7862 frieza wouldnt have let piccolo try that
@pix3188 The Z fighters sensed Frieza coming a long time before Frieza got to Earth. For sure, a wise being like Kami could've sensed the evil headed the Planet's way, and should've called Piccolo to fuse.
OMG I THINK I KNOW WHATS GOING ON.
I've had this feeling in my mind that this is trunks history.
The future timeline
Then Goku would've teleported in before the Battle begins and instantly wipe out Frieza and Cold
As Dokkan Battle showed, or well explained, slightly how the Mecha Frieza arc in the Future Timeline went
"To be fair, he IS putting Yamcha in danger" Oh screw you Mondo. You know just as well as I do that Yamcha at this point could solo every soldier there.
Of course ! I like Yamcha and after his training he must be as strong as Kiwi on Namek
@@aleksplavcev8044 Nah, he should be even stronger than that. He had a pl of about 1,500 when he went to King Kai's. And he & the others asked for tougher training than Goku received, so they should at LEAST receive similar gains to what Goku got when he trained there, if not more.
Tien's first attempt at spamming the Kikohu (Tribem) to win time, it makes sense that he has thought of this tactic already, but is still much weaker than what he would be against Cell.... but even Freeza was impressed..... this is the highlight of Tien's journey.
also, where did Vegeta go after he ate the senzu bean?
went to grab a heat tab
Tien:"have you forgotten what he did to us back on Earth"
you mean the planet you are currently standing on? no...i had no idea...🙄
Tien hates Vegeta but that is really stupid ... Vegeta is the strongest guy at this moment and he is not an enemy
Excellent as always
To be fair, Piccolo’s probably keeping in mind that if he fuses with Kami, they won’t have dragon balls anymore. But I mean, in exchange for not *needing* the dragon balls at least for a while after this, I think that’s a fair trade. Especially since they also won’t have them if Piccolo just dies anyway.
yeah they were like 3 years away from dende being the next guardian. considering they knew way more about frieza than the androids i don’t see the issue in piccolo fusing half an arc early besides scaling. especially because they didn’t have dende in mind at the time, it was an equally/worse situation. i guess frieza was the result of piccolo being dead in the first place, they probably had some ‘no dragon balls’ trauma
Piccolo would've probably fused with kami
Now, that could be an interesting alternate timeline.
Would've solved so many problems
That might've made an alternate timeline where goku dies from heart virus but they still deal with the androids the only possible threat is cell or maybe dabura but kaioshins would've prolly helped just like in future trunks timeline
This is the king cold we deserved, great fan manga
Awesome and epic video as always thank you so much for making it ❤️👍
2:39 yall did yamcha dirty
He should have said there is a stone in the video, just to see what we pointed out. Haha
I thibk its strange of all people Tenshinhan exerted himself so quickly knowing they are just trying to keep them at bay till Goku comes.
Vegeta should have wear the pink shirt
So what I’m getting is that in Trunks’s timeline Goku only used Instant Transmission fast enough to save the others from dying. Not from a beating.
The little Mondo icon at the end of the video in the bottom right = my exact expression when I find out the video is over
Originally Goku uses instant transmission to get there on time.. so like others said this is another time line
No this is the original timeline and in the manga Goku arrived late too
@@aleksplavcev8044 yeah I was mistaken, looked it up and shows that he still arrived 3 (2 in anime) hours late. They also said he didn't learn IT... Which is kind of dumb by the time trunks showed up, Goku should have learned it by then..
And if he didn't use it in the original timeline then what was he 🤔🤔💀
Stuck on the muffins
This is most likely what happened before the history of Trunks
I mean, Goku did say that had this been what started to happen, Goku was just gonna instant transmission his way to Earth
This looks like a timeline where Vegeta has no rizz. No pink shirt, no baby Trunks, no Future Trunks.
Such good art and story telling.
Let’s go other part
Ngl would have been cool if chiaotzu helped a bit rather than stay idling with Bulma and Puar since he did also train with king kai
No... he is so powerful he could kill King Cold in one second
Hey Mundo,
How about a db fan manga antagonist tier list?
You problably read the most important for a video like that.
With your editing style this could be really enjoying.
(Same goes for a db fan Manga arc tier list.)
At the end i would likd to know how good they are compared to the antagonists of the original series.
So you could change the tier's from f-s to (for example.) Cell Max - Majin Vegeta. (So that we have a reference how good they are.)
Gohan about to go "BRRR" going super saiyan early Turning frieza into a pack of smokes 😮
This is the future timeline
Future Trunks timeline perhaps? Everybody but Gohan dies, Goku finally arrives and kill Freeza and King Cold. Years later Goku will die due to the heart virus since he never got the antidote
@@luissuazo3684 ok doctor ...
Of course this is the original timeline ! Its logical !...
i remember watching the non color version of this even better with color
Wow! Glorious! 🎉🎉🎉
Question: "WHERE IS FUTURE TRUNKS?!"
Answer: This timeline is either Timeline 1: The Original Timeline (The timeline where Cell killed that timeline's version of Future Trunks, and stole his time machine to travel back 25 years from Age 788 to Age 763, and created Timeline 3: The History Of Trunks Timeline).
OR.....
This is Timeline 3: The History Of Trunks Timeline (The timeline where the version of Future Trunks that we see for the very first time comes from).
In either case, there is no Future Trunks in either scenario, in which case Goku is obviously the one that killed Frieza and King Cold in both Timeline 1 and Timeline 3.
Vegeta in Saiyan Armor < Vegeta in Pink Badman Shirt
This is an incredible story of Future trunks timeline I can't wait for part nine keep going
Vegeta is definitely out of character in this. Absolutely no way would end of Frieza (or is it Freeza I have no idea) saga/start of Android saga Vegeta say something like "Kakarot arrives in 3 hours. Do you think we'll survive until then?"
Still knowing how Frieza is, it's genuinely shocking that Frieza is still alive and now gotten lord knows how powerful even at base training in the time chamber for 10 years worth. It makes me wonder why he didn't finish off Goku and Vegeta
I love your channel. Your video style is amazing and the commentary is excellent. But it’s disappointing when u upload reruns😢
I really miss Vegeta's "Bad man" pink t-shirt. 😂
But nice serie! 🙏
06:42 " training at north kai's is worth" ? What Yamcha means?
0:38
Though why didn't Piccolo fuse with Kami at the time, I mean 2 extremely high power level equal to or even more powerful than Frieza from Namek.
it's crazy to think this is the OG timeline
It's slightly different, since Goku actually teleported in bwfore the Battle even started
Most likely instantly wiping out Frieza and Cold
Trunks: Hey guys sorry i was late, i heard some country music on the radio and decided to listen to it since it doesn't exist where im from, then I realized its horrible and.....
Ohhhh Crab baskets
Great Video 😁
I love how you pronounced my name lmao.
Cold seems to be alot stronger in his second form than Frieza was in his second form
@@luissuazo3684 officialy he cannot
@@aleksplavcev8044the actual Answer is he can, he just prefers not to
@@hoshiryu its very stupid to think that ...
Your Cliffhanger.... Is NOT Amusing....
Friza coming in with that arm snatch
Knew that Kaioken for Yancha and Tien should have happen. Why King Kai would forbid the group from using it though?
Because they become useless carachters in the next saga and the super sayan is more cool
This was sweet 😊
i hate seeing the Z fighters get defeated by frieza and his father
so this is Future Trunks's timeline? before 3 years where Androids arrived? that makes alot of sense.
Obviously ...
wait letss goo im in youtube i cant belive i'v done it
what a cliffhanger!!
Bro! What is that song at the beginning of the fight!?
💪💪💪
Fire
Monday cool is so awesome
jesus that was good
Did anyone else hear krilling yell kaioken when he was doing the solar flare?
Tayoken*
I think Krillen supposed to say Solar flare 2:50 🤭
Japanese dub names
I love your dragon ball Manga.
Many mistakes made in this but it's still very interesting
Some details yes but Many mistakes ?
This must have been what must have happened. Because how can the future Trunks even know about Freezer. Yeah so he's planned must have also been to come back and stop freezer
Future Gohan told him 🙂
Cool stuff my one nitpick is that you guys took the very unoriginal idea of piccolo losing his limbs and you guys did it twice. I guess he has more delicate limbs than the other fighters 😂😂😂
Can you make a story about what happened to the z fighters timeline when zamasu took goku body
Vegeta would've fared better if he was clad properly in a pink shirt instead of something useless like Sayian armor.
My theory of why trunks isn't there is that , It's that one timeline where trunks was killed by cell before he traveled to the past.
Not correct ! This is the original timeline before C17 and C18 arrive and kill all the z fighters
Goku would’ve just instant transmission there like in trunk’s timeline. But still interesting
Where can i find the next part please?
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oh god
Hello there 🐧
Like trunks said in his timeline that goku teleported and kill the both of them
It's pronounced Sai-Yan but at least you're saying Taiyoken, Kikoho and so on
Where can I find pt 1?
This can't be trunks timeline because Goku already knew IT by the time they show up. He literally says he was about to teleport in to fuck them up but sensed trunks
God i love king cold.
Why didn’t piccolo fuse with kami here?
Why red blood for piccolo instead of purple blood for piccolo
Big green? Did you just make a DBZ abridged reference??
This doesn't actually make sense because Goku would of been there when Frieza and King Cold landed on Earth. He could sense their evil power approaching Earth but didn't instant transmission because he also sensed someone else stronger that was fighting against them ( when Trunks turned SS). This was mentioned in the series even.
They tried to explain that away by saying Goku somehow can't sense the Earth. Maybe someone was interfering in this?
In the official manga (book) Trunks says that Goku arrived late
He must feel a power to use the teleportation
@@aleksplavcev8044 No haha, in the official manga he says Goku would of killed Frieza and he somehow(Trunks) changed time because he was arriving after Frieza. In the manga he also said he senses them and could of teleported there if he wanted.
@@mAcChaosCh Yeh, but doesn't make sense if he can sense King Ki thats has a low power level and not in earthly realm.
2:12 under Gohan
There is no stone
@@gabuge2928 I know. I just wanted people to look at a random time for no reason
Krillin aint shit - watching - would've been the perfect opportunity to slide that Kienzan through while Tien engaged the Kikoho
Impossible
The power difference is too big