The 2020 Honda Civic Si ONLY Has A Manual Transmission, So Should You Buy It Now? Buddy Review
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( www.TFLcar.com ) The refreshed 2020 Honda Civic Si is still great fun for under $30,000 to start, but it only comes with a six-speed manual transmission. That's a rare thing these days, so should you buy one now before the manual-only option goes away?
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Another awesome video. Can't wait to see more Honda Civic vids. Thanks
Civic Si ONLY Has A Manual Transmission.. nothing new they never had automatic.
I was just going to say this lol
thats why its a big deal. duh.
@@Alex0992 There are many manual transmission choices...not a big deal at all.
If they are going to be getting rid of the manual the I would rather they get rid of the whole trim at that point. It wouldn't be an SI without the manual.
If it had a little more power stock I would definitely get one again. I had the 4door 07 and loved it these things are very fun.
I had a 07 and have a 2013 now. While the HP numbers aren't much different, the torque numbers are where you notice it. Also going from the 2.0 liter to the 2.4 liter you can tell. The 2013 has enough power you can pass someone on the interstate without downshifting outta 6th (though it's not as fun).
They need to put the 2.0 turbo that is in the accord into this car. It'd be much quicker, and not has as many oil dilution problems.
@@carterdavis2793 That is the Type R
Plain and simple, a car like the Si does not need a "Info-tainment" system. Also 99% of people hook their phone to the car, so it didn't fail based on normal use case scenario. The reason we need all these rediculous extra "safety" options in a car is because of unneeded things like Info-tainment systems that only cause more distracted drivers. If you need DVD/bluray players and flashing lights and large screen displays then you are not a driver, you are a passenger. The Si is a driver's car, not a movie theatre. It's meant to be a fun, "sporty" purpose built driver's/enthusiast's car. After getting T-boned by a 60 MPH car I will never own a coupe. Sedans are usually much safer, have more headroom, and are much more usable. The only thing that keeps me from buying a Si is that I prefer the hatchback, and Honda keeps failing in their decision to not offer it in the Si model.
I kinda like that my Si is not a hatchback just like the Type R though. Sedan has been fun so far.
I would love an hatchback si, here in Italy we don't even get the si trim at all
1.5 Oil dilution problem has never been fixed. Honda's reliability has been dropping steadily. 👎
Chrome trim needs to go.. other than that the car is badass. Coupe looks way better than 4 ugly doors
Keep an eye on the oil? My friends 2020 still has the dilution problem as well as my aunt's 18 crv
This has only been seen in cold climates where people don't fully warm the engines between starts and stops. I have not seen this problem in my own car
@@BullittKid08 I live in Pennsylvania. My 15 crv had it as well on a 10 mile journey using highways and city driving. Honda did not design these well for colder climates.
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He said, engine not warmed enough which is like when you just turn it on and drive , a friend has a CRV 1.5 and no issues but our weather is hot most of the year , he has 2 years with it but he does warm it before driving it every morning.
@@reyperez3424 shouldn't need to let it run for 5 minutes in the morning. You put far more heat into an engine with load on it, so a drive into work at 5-10 miles should not result in an issue like it has. I can see if it was a mile or two down the road, but not 10 miles. I replaced my shitty honda with a mazda and then got a toyota. The same exact drive results in no such issues, and gets me better fuel economy and a much better experience without that dreadful cvt
@@Suction_ I live in Minnesota, so we have definitely have colder climates here. However the commute is 30 minutes some days, 1 hour other days. Haven't had any problems.
The only problem i have with this cars is the rev hang. Also the transmission once you hit a few thousand miles the sound is so clunky as you’re shifting gears.
I have never owned an automatic transmission car. Currently I'm in a 2019 440 Xi BMW , the last manual they offer.
If this car had the same performance as the type R I would buy it
Nice work...but what about this “Smurfs” Resturant? No car maker wants to go there😄
3 months free civic dam!, i would love it
This car can fit a bunch of subwoofer box.
Seriosuly, No Type R coupe???
Whats mounted to the windshield you're using to measuring 0 to 60? Thanks
Civics only being offered in manual while Supras don't even have that option, really makes you think doesn't it 🤔
When is the 11 generation coming out.
Shoulda compared it to the fiesta st
I think the market will be interesting if Hertz goes bankrupt.........
si do not come with navi
They should have made an Si hatchback.
The sport hatchback already exists.
Dat Minty Gamer it’s not the same sadly
All three models are butt ugly.
RJ Money you’re literally high. In fact, I used to hate civics cuz I thought they were ugly, but this new gen looks sleek and sharp.
@@milohurtado7693 It's not gonna win you any drag queen contests trust me.
The Civic SI only cones in a manual no matter the year...
I wish they kept the k24 instead of going for the 1.5... oooor the Acura ILX came with a manual
Why? The 1.5t is far better on gas and it’s so much easier to make power. The k24 in the 9th gen wasn’t even that great, it didn’t even have “real” vtec like the old 1st TSX version.
Alex the 1.5t has oil dilution problems, that’s gonna tear the engines life span in half
Yea the RSX Type-S pushed about the same horsepower from a naturally Aspirated 2.0L
@@jakelowk559 the normal Civics with 185hp 1.5t would still beat the previous gen k series. I like the 1.5t because I don't t have to rev it high all the way to have some fun because of the extra torque.
@@Meowmii4023 It's a matter of preference. Naturally aspirated engines don't suffer from turbo lag and give better control when you want to dial in the perfect amount of throttle. And well... those engines get VTEC yo! (sorry). The 1.5t doesn't get VTEC. And for a car like this, that's exactly something their buyer tends to want.
2:14 one massive center mounted HDMI exhaust🤣
So true! The Civic Si has the HDMI port and the Chevy trucks have the forklift slots on the rear bumper.
If you have to ask yourself if you should buy the car because it’s manual you very likely shouldn’t buy it. Manual driving is a full time affair. You have to love it or leave it alone. If you’re a lackadaisical driver that can’t handle being aware at all times and things like using indicators is too much work just get auto.
Navigation didn't work, because it isn't equipped with it. Will only work from BT connected phone. But as a Honda fan, glad to see that you guys will have it for a while. Keep up the good work!
Navigation works great without a phone ...
Having bought a 2020 Civic Si recently I can honestly say its one of the most fun cars I've driven. And if you are thinking about buying one, do it. The torquey engine is more fun and usable to me then the previous high revving engines. Final drive gearing was revised for 2020 for better acceleration in all gears, the Si's 1.5L has forged rods and other upgrades in the engine you won't find with a regular civic (making it prime for upgrades and tuning), the transmission is amazing and shifts great. No understeer even with all season tires, this car actually produces an oversteer-like affect youd expect from a RWD car (when pushed at the limit). Interior is nice, android auto/Apple carplay works pretty flawlessly when phone is connected (unlike this video). I drove all the competition and none of them communicated through the tires and steering wheel the way this car did. If you're thinking about autox or track days this car should definitely be on the list.
Also you can push the button on the end of the left stalk to engage the right mirror camera instead of turning on the turn signal
Having a car with lane keep, adaptive cruise, automatic braking and etc with a manual transmission is the best of both worlds for me. I'm not a big automatic/dct fan so having all the safety with a manual trans was a big plus
Former owner of: MK6 GTi dsg, Subaru BRZ, Mazda RX8, and many miatas
Current owner of: 2008 Mustang Bullitt, 1991 Spec Miata racecar
I might be wrong but you’ll probably can get a Mustang 5.0 manual for the same price but congrats on your purchase.
@@reyperez3424 Add another $10k for the Mustang GT 5.0 at MSRP but you can always negotiate with Ford a lot more than with Honda dealers. At least here in California.
Rey Perez he was probably going for a small sedan, not a muscle type mustang
Rev hang and not even Camry quick though..
Thanks for the well written review. My wife owns a 2018 Si Coupe, and I Own a 2013 Mustang GT. I get to drive both often, and they make for a great contrast. When I start thinking the Si is feeling kinda slow, I jump in the Mustang for a week. WHen I start feeling like the Mustang is too clumsy for traffic and corners, I switch back to the Si. (Having both cars available during lockdown has been fun). Both cars are very fun in different ways, but it is amazing to drive.
I think the value of the Civic Si is amazing for everything you get. And our 2018 doesn't have any of the electronics.
It is also amazingly easy to drive. I ended up teaching my wife how to drive a stick shift on the Si, and it's such a light little clutch that it's easy for a beginner to learn.
I’ve had many Si variants over the years. This 10th Gen has been my favorite. If I could change something, it would be the exhaust tip. I prefer the look of the Sport’s dual tips.
The current model exhaust tip looks like a huge HDMI port. :)
2018 Si owner here. I totally agree. I'll be purchasing a custom exhaust soon.
I added an AFE carbon fiber tipped dual exhausts on mine! I could not deal with the hdmi ports!
You can always get a custom exhaust.
Invidia Gemini triple tip exhaust looks great on it !!
If I remember correctly SI = Sport Injected...
Spoiler Included
@@Slowlearner200k Sport Injected.
John Doe36 Spoiler Injected
@@IEatPooPooForFun nope.
John Doe36 no my uncle owns Honda and he said that’s what si means
Quit saying “if I’m being honest”. Aren’t you always being honest? Tommy, Roman and Nathan are all guilty of the “to be honest” or “ if I’m being honest” to make negative comments. We all assume you are all honest at all times. When you have to clarify honesty then when are you not honest?
To be fair, saying "if I'm being honest", is more of a way of declaring you don't intend something as an insult.
Example. If your girlfriend/wife asks, "Honey do I look good in this dress?". With you then saying "if I'm being honest...I don't like it". The implication isn't that you were going to say no and lie, but that you want to give the unabashed truth without shaming/insulting her.
😂
It was kinda annoying. Like it ruined the whole video lol
Beautiful and I'm secretly jealous.. 😂
but I'll stick to my paid off 8th gen si coupe w/57k miles.
Your 8th gen is way cooler. The 1.5T is a lame engine compared to yours.
@@tomkat492 No kidding!
lets trade 😂 id much rather have that 8th gen
Bring back the Si hatch. It would make choosing a car much easier for me
Yeah, if they offered the si in hatch, it would sell like crazy!
Honda rep i spoke said that's exactly why they don't make Fit in an Si version and have discontinued hatch version of Si, they don't want those options to compete with Civic R.
I agree. I love my 2018 mazda3 hatch and the fact that Honda didn’t have a hatch SI kinda swayed me. Plus Mazda gave me a Great deal before the gen 4s hit the lot but if the si had a hatch I probably would have been more likely to pay more
Cool to see this when most cars are only offered in automatic transmission. I had to special order a VW Jetta and Subaru Impreza in manual transmission because they didn't have any in the lots in my local area
I think this is one of the reasons tricking out older rides is making a comeback. I noticed I see more in the last five years than normal and I think it's the fact that the options are being taken away from the consumer so they can save thousands by having one customized or doing it themselves and fixing it up. I'm still tipping between a wrx (awd purposes mainly with dirt roads i have around here) or a civic couple around 2007 era. I know if I wanted a 95 era civic for 5 grand start to finish i could smoke a most v8 'gt' cars. Just sucks because you miss out on the nicer technologies and interiors are sort of vanilla unless you shell out big money, since cars from back then didn't do more than cheap plastic on the interiors.
@@boskobear if I go that large I'll just get an 05' and up mustang gt. I'm not concerned on reliability, it won't be my daily commuter and I'm not settling for under 300hp (probably closer to 400, depending on engine). I don't like four doors. I got a CRV from 02 for that. Looking to modify this over a couple of years to the point where it's basically a show car. HUD on tp of the dashboard so you can look through your info while keeping eyes on the road, even. I figure I'll drop about 10g's or more into it when it's said and done, but doing almost all of it myself. Won't be able to start it until after this pandemic gets handled so I can finish setting up my property with a house and garage.
I'm even going with a lift and cherry picker so whatever vehicles I have I can handle the labor myself and just order the parts. Kind of a reverse mid life crisis for the gamer nerd that got into the fast and furious franchises too much haha
@@artvasch147 I agree man!
Lol HPT stands for Honda Performance Tuning
He really said high performance tires😂
Haha I caught that too. Did u also see that they both failed to understand why u get a camera on the right side of the car instead of both? They must not parallel park often.
There is also HFP. Honda Factory Performance
@@DStabs720 i got that suspension on my 2008, its awsome
HPT actually probably does stand for "high performance tires". Literally the only thing you get is the summer tires, there's no tuning involved.
Someone put those tires on it, Si’s only come with GoodYear tires stock. Eagle Sport all seasons and Eagle F1 summer tires.
On the window sticker it says 'HPT'
It's the upgraded version you can get from factory. Too much money in my option. Rather do it myself as i want
@@UltimaRSfan it's usually only $200 for the hpt upgrade, That's not bad.
Nope, that's actually an upgrade option from the factory.
@@JA-rn5qv that's what I b actually meant. I have a 19 that actually came with the hpt, but were not listed on the window sticker. It was a whole thing on some of the 19s.
Was it hard for anyone else to watch this?
I have the 2019 SI tuned with ktuner with Cat-Back exhaust & my car gets 32 MPG in the city & 0-60 in 6.0 seconds on 21psi (+4) up from stock boost. Also there's a way to turn off traction control & stability control when 1 traction light is on solid yellow & the other 1 is flashing in the left corner of the dash then you kno all assist has been defeated then you can spin the wheels good & use wide open throttle shift so it doesn't fall in a hole 1st-2nd gear... That's 0.5 seconds right there! Nice review 👍🏻👍🏻
Great review!! I have a 19’ SI and absolutely love driving that car. WORD OF CAUTION: The shift knob, in the summer sun, it will burn the shift pattern into your palm!!! I put a sock over the knob when I park it, problem solved. The top of the shifter is metal??? Come on Honda?? but that’s my only negative, just a heads up guys.
I think it's that it's thin metal. My Mustang has a solid stainless steel ball for a shift knob. Before than my Z3 convertible had the same thing (same guy machines them). And while it would get hot in the direct sun (convertible remember), it was never something where I had to wear gloves.
I hopped out of my Fiesta ST and into a new SI to test drive, and was immediately disappointed. It may have five more horsepower, and only a couple of hundred pounds of extra weight, but all the excited puppy dog characteristics of the fiesta were gone. It just wasnt as fun, and 100% less communicative.
That being said for its price it is one hell of a nice car inside. The quality is better, Electronics are better, it's more comfortable and the seats are excellent.
It was tempting, and i work for Honda, which is a good company, but its just not go-karty, like my FiST.
Which might bite me in the ass one day since Ford's are not super reliable nowadays
I've said for years Honda should make a Fit Si.
The problem I have with the Fiesta is that it has electronic limited slip differential, which means it uses the front brakes, and they wear out quicker, while Honda still uses a mechanical one.
@@nlpnt I've wanted that as well but after chatting wth a Honda rep at 2019 LA car expo they don't want It to compete wIth Civic R which is also why you can no longer get Si in hatch form either.
@@GreeKing83 this is legit.
I just turn it off and use the throttle, but an lsd was too much for ford NA
@@JA-rn5qv Sounds like the Honda rep was spinning tales, a Civic Type R is $37k while a Fit Si would be $19-22k depending on what they put into it (low end would be a Sport with suspension tweaks only, high would have a turbo and sunroof). There's no Si hatch b/c it's a North America-only powertrain and the hatches are made in England. That will change at the next redesign.
This coupe is way better looking than the Type R
I have a 2019 si coupe and the rims are much better then the 2020. I still can believe i get 38mpg. Lol
No way the 20s are so much nicer being matte black!! The 17-19s are too similar to the accord sports. Honda sensing and LEDs are worth the upgrade alone and the gear ratio making accelerating noticeably quicker too
The 2019's are nice, but I can't resist those matte blacks on the 2020. Easily more handsome. The 2019's just look like any other "nice car" rims.
I have a 2020 SI and I agree with you. I LOVE everything about the 2020 except the black rims, which I personally feel are ugly. However I love the body-colored accents in the front and rear "boxes" that break up that weird look. As for the 38mph, I do agree it's incredible. I only get 36 mpg out of my 2020. But guess what? 36 mpg is crazy great for any car. I will certainly never complain about my gas mileage, especially with a car that out performs other cars costing many thousands more.
Ironfangzu I got two questions for you. 1 when your driving at speeds around 35-38mph and you have it in 4th gear, does the turbo sometimes kick on and off making the car jerk? 2 do you put premium gas in yours I do but hate how expensive it is. Thanks
Cool video. The Civic Sport has a naturally aspirated 2.0 liter engine. Not the 1.5T
It also comes with the 1.5
Civic Sport here in Canada has 1.5 Turbo and base LX comes with 2.0
If you want an Automatic in a Civic Si you might as well buy a Prius🤷♂️
Awesome video, I would buy it. I love how Honda only offers it in a standard manual transmission.
if you put sport mode on the suspension tightens up... he shoulda turned it off before the hula test.
You were so curious about torque steer in a front wheel drive car when you were to merge onto the highway during your introduction yet you failed to mention it at all during your merge onto the highway. No mention at all during your drive. Thumbs down for failing to correctly follow up.
That's just it, I don't think this car has any torquesteer. Pulling onto the freeway was so lackluster I think he was unimpressed and just didn't wanna say anything
I have a fbo si coupe, the LSD is really nice in this car and pulls straight as ever
torque steer isnt the problem. does it still have the rev hang.
It still has the famous rev hang, its there because it's designed to keep the turbo spooled while shifting gears.
8:41 The Civic Si in your american model doesn't even have navigation, so you can't even do the snarfs test! Unless you used Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
Still driving my 2007 Si Coupe. Crazy to see that after 13 years, my civic is just as fast if not faster than this one. They should of stuck with natural aspiration and the 2.0L K series. Also the camera on the right is for parallel parking and HPT stands for Honda Performance Tuning lol.
Yours is actually not faster. I'm gonna tell you why. The gearing of the newest generation forces you to shift twice before reaching 60 mph. It also has a wee bit of rev hang. So though the 0-60 numbers are not that impressive, the actual torque, while in the gear's sweet spot, is. Cars that you will lose to 0-60, you will beat 0-70. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trashing your car. I actually love the '07 Si.
Not even close to being faster than a 10th Gen lol I own a 2020 and drove a 2008 Si and that thing was fun but noticeably slower for sure. When the turbo kicks in my si takes off like a plane ✈️ and the 2008 has a linear power band compared to the 10th gens
RE: the "it's only on when doing a right turn" camera [or, you can turn it on/off using the button on the end of the stalk]: My 2016 Pilot has the same, and I really LIKE it. I don't need a camera on the left side of the car, as I can see what's there way easier -- I need it for seeing on the RIGHT side, as the view there is more "obstructed."
I also use the 3 "distance lines" on the camera to judge how far I am from cars on the right of me when I want to move over to the next lane on the freeway, or to make an upcoming exit lane. If cars are at or behind the 3rd line, I can move over without cutting them short...so they don't feel I'm driving "unfriendly" -- helps prevent Road Rage incidents. ;-)
Will MISS that cam in my next Daily Driver (in March, 2021 -- a Chevy Colorado ZR@ or the still-hasn't-been-revealed-yet Ford Bronco)...
-- BR
The camera can be used for that, but the main purpose is for parallel parking.
@@deadlysrng8691 I can't even remember the last time I did parallel parking...
-- BR
Still rockin my 2006 Civic SE.
The Si has been manual only since its inception. If you have money to burn, a better way to spend it is to buy a Type R.
1.5L Turbo 4cyl ? HELL NO.
Engine oil fuel dilution problems.
Ticking time bomb. And Honda playing coy as long as they can get away with it (usually the first day right after your warranty expired).
All gdi engines do that , so quit spreading rumours
Yeah this just simply isn't true. Only people in cold climates who don't allow engine to come to full temp between start and stop have seen this issue. I have zero dilution
JIGA BACHI don’t forget carbon build up which is common with most GDI only engines.
Sorry but the Si lost me when they went from the K20 to the K24. The K20 redlined at 8200 from the factory and was easily tuned to rev higher. Also, VTEC on both the intake and exhaust, it was such a fun car.
I got the Honda civic SI back in November 2019. the 2020 Model. i Just passed 4k miles last week. its such a fun drive. the sport mode is great especially around tight turns going fast.
Wow you hardly drive the thing, well under the average miles. Got 6k and had it since end of December! Lol blue Sedan
@@RMG791 yeah I want to do some more roadtrips but I only live 10 mins from work which is why the low miles. but recently going through a divorce so I havent had a lot of money to travel much in my new car. HOpefully once this damn coronavirus is over I can actually go some places.
I had a, used 87 CRX Si in the mid 90s. Loved that car. It was a high performance go cart for the street. The new Civic Si from your guys impressions sounds like a pretty good modern "compact" for not a lot of money.
I did 7.1sec with Michelin X-Ice on 17's. It's not a drag racer though. You need to be a long time Civic masher to get the most out of the Si from the line.
Go find a country road with a sign that says 'Curving Road Next 200 miles' and fill up before you do that. Pretty real review though.
Not a fan of under sized engines with turbo's. They tend to wear out much quicker than naturally aspired engines. The base Civic LX comes with 2.0 liter 4 cylinder and I believe 158 hp which is nothing super fast, but does the job and top end is still over 120 mph, plus there are after market ad on's to further push it.
Couple notes: having the car in sport mode makes the cabin louder and suspension firmer, which throws off your bump test and nose test. Second, you’ll get more headroom if you lower the driver seat by using the front adjustment lever (just push it down several times). And lastly, the si doesn’t have navigation so it wasn’t going to give you navigation instructions when you asked it.
I love you, guys, but you really shouldn't do 0-60 tests that far above sea level(even with a disclaimer)and without explaining that the Si requires a second shift to achieve 60 mph. The time it takes to shift gives an unfair impression of the car's actual acceleration/torque and could actually lead to lesser sales. I think it's strange that Honda hasn't picked up on that when you consider the importance put on that 0-60 number.
Just wondering. If you take a car capable of going 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, and you do a launch, and you do it in about NINE seconds, what does that tell me? It tells me you are a very poor driver who is barely able to manage a manual transmission. In other words, what are you doing giving us a review of this hot little performer when you can hardly drive? That's like a golfer with a 40 handicap giving me a review of Augusta. "Wow, this course is hard! This is the fifth time I've driven my tee shot into the woods and this is only the third hole!". Thanks but no thanks. I'll take reviews from reviewers who can get out of this car what it was meant to do.
I really want the new gen civic but I cannot pay for a car that has 1.5 engine. NOPE. I'm almost a year on my ownership of a 2013 civic si Coupe Rallye red and this k24 feel likes a tank
I’m shocked that there is a comment as the manual on the Si “unfortunately “ the Si only comes with manual. I just bought a 2015 Honda Civic Si Vtec coupe. I was thrilled to see it had the manual, this was the main selling point for me & I love my Honda. I also never thought I would own a Honda.
I bought this car used. Love it. You should have cover sport mode. The cars is not really “fast” per se, but it passes and gets up to speed really nicely. It’s a buy it all day.
The ExtremeContact Sports are their high performance summer tires. Those look like the ExtremeContact DWS06, which is their high performace all-season. Either way, the ExtremeContact Sport is by far hands down the best tire for wet driving. For grip, I go with the Bridgestone RE-71R.
Right ikr
Advanced race cars have been using paddle automatics for decades because they are faster to change. Yes a lot of old farts like their manuals, but they can probably afford Porsches. My guess is most of the kids who might buy a hot Civic want paddles.
Never had a sports car until I bought my 2019 Civic si since the day I bought it brand new my driving life has been fun and exciting every time I drive the si I am always smiling. If you are in the market for one I highly recommend it
Very slow lol
@@pincheloko1086 Not through the turns haha
Dolphin xx69xx your right about that but I did see a k20 swap older civic beat one in the track
Cool car except for no handbrake And way to much technology Don't trust any Computers Attach to my steering wheel or breaks Technology is running new cars for me
By far the best honda or acura that I have ever owned! I love my 2020 si coupe in white. Got mine for 24k, added afe carbon fiber tipped exhaust and stock k&n air filter for about 10 hp more. This car is the bestcar ubuy for under 25k and I still get 40mpg hwy cruising. I was sold on the turbo 1.5, 6 speed manual, sunroof, heated seats, led headlights and 2 cameras! This car bones out and looks awesome! Should have the type R motor in the coupe option! Best Civic ever! Did 0-60 in 6.0 at sea level! I am 6ft 3 and I fit fine just recline the seat back a little! The difference between a type r is 4 doors and 15000$ and also very high insurance rates. No way a type r gets 40mpg hwy!
The type r is more heavily modded than the newer SI!!
Bought one on the last day of April. Loving it
hatchback version would be nice.....the flexible cargo space is very useful
i prefer old gen si`s
The type r is cool but its ugly. This looks a lot better.
Not impressed.
i wouldnt call that center mounted exhaust "massive"... dad...? pretty much si expected
Black wheels especially on that car make it look shit. BTW my hula Kilikihana is better than yours!
Mine is 2014 2.4 liter HFP looks better than a new one.
Would not take even trade for new.
Mine is hpt but I put 17s on it for noise and comfort the pricey and quick wearing 18s are in storage
If a nav system ever figures out how to get to Snarf's, will you stop for lunch? You drive by it every time!
Infotainment system, take it out and spend the money on killer audio (Honda). Put in leather ,all wheel drive and the powertrain from the new Accord touring . Sign me up !
Or you could get a 2.0 accord with 6mt? The whole point of a Si is back to basics, not fully loaded
Ni e vofeo u lucky nathan was not a passenger or space would have been non existence
We need to teach Roman how to drive stick...
The Si was always manual only. I prefer the pre-refresh version though. Not too fond of the black wheels on the Si.
Is it only available with black wheels now or is that an option?
Yeah the 2019 wheels version are much better
I had a 2008 Civic SI and loved it. The MT was so easy in that car. I miss driving an SI.
Where is the b-roll of tommy backing up the civic into the side of the building?
good more people need to drive stick and why would u buy an auto sporty car
Please 2020 Si owners: let us know if you're experiencing oil dilution issues.
GDI = Gasoline Direct Injection, which also means Great Dealer Income (Honda), Greatly Decreases Income (you) and Great Damage Indeed.
I'd get a 2020 Si Coupe in a heartbeat if it had a PFI engine instead (Port Fuel Injection) like my 2003 Civic EX 5-speed manual.
Also, that "digitally enhanced" engine noise when you accelerate in Sport Mode is ridiculous in my opinion. That should be included in automatic cars to make their drivers feel like they're actually driving. Thankfully, there's a way to disable it by disconnecting the Adaptive Sound Control module buried below the glove box as shown by this young man. Give him some thumbs-ups while you're there: th-cam.com/video/2lnVZXJSKvM/w-d-xo.html.
#SaveTheManuals #ExterminateTheAutomatics #WellKeepSomeForTheHandicapped
Looking forward to TypeR.
Also, that 0-60 looks like an uphill section of road?
This dude can’t drive I’m sorry let the young son do that stuff he doesn’t realize shit about cars. He will shift a 9k rpm rev limit at 5k rpm and say man this is slow ofc it’s slow ur not hitting the power band at all
@@gsjourney3054 3 people in the car, high alt, and uphill.. they did alright.
@@boskobear There's plenty of youtubers doing 0-60 times on downhill stretches of roads. This is not a 5.9 car on flat road.
The engine sounds horrible though...like it's dying
Did I miss the answer to your torque steer question??
Watching you rest your hand on the shifter is making me cringe.
Good grief you’ve been watching too many engineering explained videos
@@TFLcar it's a bad habit that older drivers of manuals still do from back in the day when you had to bang gears shifts. I get it it's a press car so you don't really care. Because I daily a 2017 GTI manual it's just something that I noticed. The same way when I hear somebody over revving the car in first gear to get moving. Maybe it's just my OCD.
0-60 in 9 seconds 😂😂😂
I've driven small light cars my whole life and I can tell you, if you put three people in one of them they are instantly slowed waaay down.
Plus the elevation makes a difference.
Plus a slow launch and slow shifts
@@deejayimm Very true. I even notice how much the Mustang slow down with a passenger in the car. Weight makes a huge difference
Civic is a nice car. But for $26k .They should have 2 Liter engine. and better HP.
The HP is fine for that size car, but you do get a lot more torque at the low end, unlike the older NA 2 liter engine from previous generation, which were pretty anemic when it came to torque.
Research is your friend, only the hatchback sports have the turbo 1.5L. The sedan & coupe sports come with NA 2.0L
What? The 10th generation civic si platform are all 1.5 T as well as the sports touring.
@@Republic1ders Correct, but he mentioned the "sport" having the 1.5T. Only the hatchback sport has the 1.5T. The sport trim on the sedan & coupe have the 2.0L
I like your honest grading. Not everything deserves a BUY.
Did you ever do an update during the 3-months that you had this? I wasn’t able to find it on your channel. Thank you.
Naw, the Fit is even easier to learn on than this.
Type R is far superior, was going to buy an SI, but Type R just felt like a true sports car instead of a compromise of performance/economy. I ended up getting the Type R and no regrets at all so far! It is strange, but so far it seems like SI holds its value better on used market for a 1-2 year old models then Type R which makes a used Type R a real bargain to consider.
Add a PRL CAI, PRL Downpipe and front pipe and get Ktuner on that. Waaaaayyy different car afterwards. You can easily hit 450WHP for about 6K in this car.