Haddon Hall disused Railway Tunnel. Why build it ?
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- Haddon Hall railway tunnel is a disused railway tunnel in Derbyshire Peak district England UK. The abandoned railway line was closed in the Beeching British rail cuts during 1968. This was because the line was duplicated as a trans pennine route across England. The tunnel was never needed to be built it was only built for aesthetic reasons primarily because The Duke of Rutland did not want Steam trains passing across his land. So it was buried underground. Built by the Midland railway company in 1861 it is another fine example of Victorian engineering. We explore this railway walk with Paul and Rebecca Whitewick from every disused station.
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The Whitewicks channel th-cam.com/users/pwhitewick1 Rebeccas online shop www.whitewickvintage.co.uk
Massive thanks for having us along. Always a pleasure.
@@pwhitewick Not far from Haddon there is a millstone graveyard with quarry railway incline + winding house partially intact. Its a bit of a walk but easy enough. Want to do an explore with me one day? Maybe another collab with Martin...
Classic example of the UK short-term transportation planning. How very useful a St-Pancras to Manchester link would be today; not to mention the scenic offerings via the Peak District, it would be a line people would travel on just for the scenery
Awesome video as always Martin! The lake of doom was definitely a surprise, I don’t blame you for not wanting to stand next to that wall. Very respectful of you to tribute the men who died… I bet they never thought someone would be paying tribute to them still after 170 years.Thanks for all the great content, cheers from 🇺🇸 🤘😎
Fitting to end with a tribute to the workers tragically killed during the original construction. Great video, I could feel the cold water.
Another brilliant video. Forget national geographic and history channel with their half hearted attempts at reasearch. Watch this well reasearched , well edited , interesting video from Martin. Somebody give the man a big budget to carry on making his amazing videos. Don't know if there are awards for TH-cam vids but if there are, I will be voting for all of his. The man is a legend.
Nice to see James standing on the van filming in the background! 🤣
Quiet this week
Oh, we missed James, very much, however Liam is a lovely addition. Nice to see Rebecca and Paul! What a brilliant tunnel. Fancy all that cut stone rather than brick. James' brews are not brilliant - ahh, poor James. He isn't present so he is fair game! Thank you for this unique tour. Well done.
And right next to the door into the tunnel the wall says "Speak friend and enter". Nice touch.
Hats off to you Martin. I live here & have only ever seen the tunnel from the 'Lake' end just below the Bowling Green Farm where I laid most of the hedge in Derbyshire style using only hand tools (My claim to fame). In due course this tunnel will be part of the Monsall Trail. My understanding is that Haddon Estate has already given permission for Sustrans to continue the Monsall Trail through the Haddon 'Tunnel' so it will link The Trans Penine Bike Trail Buxton to Matlock There's a bit of work still to be done mind from Combes Road viaduct to the 'Lake-entrance'. I admire your love of things old and architectural.
NIMBY in 1861. Gives a neat piece of history for you to explore and share with us.
I love your rambling. Sadly my health won't let me now. So, if I can watch these, it's close enough
This line wasn't a casualty of the Beeching Cuts. The Beeching Report recommended keeping the line open and developing it as a through route. It was closed by Transport Minister Barbara Castle.
Good video as usual Martin.
Yeah, sadly she had a bit of thing against the railway for some reason, so the promises of reversing Beeching went by the wayside and she closed much of the lines and stations laid out in the report and many others beyond it. That said, MacMillan should never have been elected Prime Minister, him and Marples have a lot to answer for!
@@Zentron Marples fled abroad, said to be evading a tax bill. He also was on becoming Transport Minister had to sell his shares in his haulage empire, which he did, to his wife!
Yes - Beeching gets blamed for a lot of line closures but it was Minister of Transport Marples (a Managing Director of a road construction organisation) who directed him to force through the recommendations almost entirely without any independent review. Barbara Castle then added to the pain, nearly always in favour of roads.
@@SteamRoller605 Yup, he did that to get around the laws governing taking public office, sadly the loophole he used to skirt this law is still in place today!
The company he had shares in built a few of the M roads near me, and the rail line that went through my town was sacrificed in order to justify its construction, this sacrifice pretty much killed off every bit of industry for all the towns the line went through for which none have recovered.
Unfortunately this scenario is repeated up and down the country, plus from checking some financial info, the cuts by laid out by Beeching and after, when the railways began being dismantled, our industry took a nosedive, so in effect, the rail cuts destroyed our worth in the world.
@@Zentron Politics has a lot to answer for.
watched several times - a fascinating example of quality engineering and construction.
Fantastic presentation and what a MORE FANTASTIC END. GREAT ENTERTAINMENT 👍👍
Mate, the level of research and historic bits is very much appreciated! I can only imagine how long these vids must take you! Cheers for taking the time!
Thank you much appreciated
Brilliant and so informative. So much better than the "celebrity" presenters on mainstream TV, yes, you lot at the BBC, take note. Many Thanks, Andrew.
Martin, I have said it before, but repetition is good for the soul: You are a MARVELOUS storyteller. I had seen Paul & Rebecca's video before seeing yours. Much footage was the same or similar. The facts, save for the death of the 15-year-old, seemed the same, but your organization, suspense, context, are genuinely superior. Now I love Paul and Rebecca, and I do support them, too, but some people have been granted a gift from the gods, and you have it. You can tell a story. Thank you for telling your stories to us.
Thanks Dian much appreciated. I do think these places have a story to tell
My grandad worked at Hassop station and also did track maintenance although between Hassop and Great Longstone. He retired in the late 1950’s. I do remember trains on there, the last one just north of Hassop in 1968 I think.
When you found that square in the wall - it looked like the scene from Labyrinth where the entrance was hidden in plain sight!
You have the best adventures ever, keep them coming 🙂
Thankyou for the videos
Rebecca is a pleasant addition to this episode. Hope you have her back often mate!!!
I agree with you, I've just sub'd to her you tube channel to get more of her intelligent idiocyncracy. Should be fun.
Regarding the single sleeper, it has a broken chair. The usual method of removing track for scrap is to cut the rails into lengths that will fit on the wagons being used, and lift both rails and sleepers as one. The chair would mean this sleeper wasn't attached to one of the rails and would likely fall off during the lift. It has no scrap value, so would have been left.
Nicely filmed Martin! Of course always love your colabs with the Whitewicks! This tunnel that was pointless except to appease one person, was still built with mainly cut stone instead of brick! The cost must have been high! That center part that had been opened was very unique and beautiful! I also enjoyed you putting the camera into some small and wet areas! Bring Liam along again for better brew ups!
Surely, given the time frame, the cost depends on availability? Locally sourced stone would be preferable to long travelling delivered brick in that case, I would think,
Second attempt at viewing as I dozed off on Sunday half way through after a hefty Sunday Roast, and woke up I know not where in active TH-cam land. Enjoyed that mate…as usual all good stuff.
Cracking vid Mart, great seeing Paul and Rebecca, big fan of theirs too!
Good to see you guys together. Rebecca looks best! That “wall” looks ready to go. It was hardly constricted for that weight of water
There again, from certain angles Martin…
I love your video's and can never get enough or wait long enough for the next one.
I know you put a lot of ground work into making your video's.
not just a case of going out and filming anything, then posting it.
You do your home work and make an interesting video which is also educational.
Keep up the good work and I'll keep on watching.
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Thanks for the video Martin. It makes a good companion for the Whitewicks video
I would be moving away from that potential torrent of bricks and water, Martin. And I always appreciate so much you explaining conditions of life in those days and honoring the people Hello from New Orleans. You bring me MUCH enjoyment. Merci Beaucoup
Happy Mardi Gras!
I really didn't expect that photo through the wall of the tunnel that you posted on Instagram to be a dam!! A really interesting place well recorded by both of you, you make a good team!! And I thought the Whitwick's were from Andover, but turns out they live in a tunnel in the Peak District!! Good luck from Spain!!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You make some of the best content on TH-cam. The sheer dedication, passion, conviction you show time and time again is inspiring. Greetings, again from Atlanta, Georgia USA.
Bringing in Paul & Rebecaa with Martin and Liam - puts the Dream Team on the scene!
great vid Martin, good meet up with the Whitewicks and I look forward to more joint videos from you both. I pass Haddon Hall on my daily commute to work so will give you a thought tomorrow. Thanks again! 👍👍
Thank you 👍
A great collaboration. Jeez, when I saw the water high against the portal, I would have needed a change of underwear! Yet another well-made and educational video. I am addicted to your channel.
Really enjoyed that! I was worried about your brew getting dripped in! Plus of course Your homage to Stalker was very apt!
Ahh yes, glad you noticed that 😄
Thank you for the informative video. Always a great way to go. Thanks Marty! 🏴🙂👍🇺🇸
Thanks Martin
I'm beginning to like Haddon tunnel now that I've watched 15 different videos of it!
Walking on the wrong side (not facing the oncoming traffic) of a busy main road in poor weather conditions wearing dark clothing was unwise, even over a short distance. Apart from that, your usual excellent video, Martin.
They were on the pavement.
Another remarkable video and the Whitewicks are always a bonus. The wealthy,entitled class always get their way no matter how high the cost. 2022 will be the year you get to 100k,Martin! Thanks again.
Thanks Martin for another brilliant vlog, shame about the people that died in the collapse (god bless them). Take care and all the best. Stevie
Imagine a railway hidden from view? Strange? Nice to see Paul and Rebecca too.
Thanks for another splendid video 👍
Imagine the steam train coming through and then the smoke popping up through that break in the tunnel. That would've been youtube worthy.
I wasn't aware that there was a Hadden hall, and your mention of it brought the film 'Contact' to mind, as a chap called Hadden was one of the central characters!
H Martin, awww poor James lol, that must have been so frightening to have that wall with all that weight of water behind it and knowing you will have to run fast if it breaks, it would have made for a very wet cuppa tea lol. May the workers rest in peace.
Thank you for sharing, much love. xx ❤
Thank you Sue
Great video Martin, thanks for showing long forgotten history 👍
Another great video Martin and friends ! xx
Brilliant collab. And a fascinating and beautiful tunnel.
Always nice to see paul and rebekah, really enjoyed the video thanks martin 👍
Another great vid folks with some very interesting facts. Many thanks for sharing.
An unexpected bonus for a Sunday evening - nice one. That must have been quite a shock when you saw the lake. I must know my roads very well - I immediately recognised the A6 even though I had no idea where Haddon Hall is.
Yeah the lake was a hidden surprise 😀
Love this, teaming up with Paul and Rebecca two of my favourite TH-cam channels!
Martin the presentations are getting better and better, great story of course many thanks,
thanks Marti Paul Rebbecca great adventure
Hello Martin. Good to see you back up & running. We thank you & the team for putting together another great video. Keith. NZ.
Hi Martin Thank you for another fascinating Vlog it was good to watch the 2 Vlogs for the various aspects of the show, Both great
Brilliant, lovely Paul and Rebecca with you guys, it doesn't get much better. Fascinating bit of history.
Brilliant. Clever, informative, entertaining & well videoed. Thank you Martin et al!
Thanks Peter
Thank you for making this happen ! Always interesting to see your adventures !
Thanks Olin
Great video Martin as always
Great explore. Poor James.
Poor James at home out of the rain and cold 😀
Great video! Rebecca's *lovely!*
Another great video as usual, so infromative👍😊
What a day for an adventure. It looked (and I'm sure felt), Baltic, but I'm so glad you make the effort because as always it's great viewing! Great and good surprise to see Paul and Rebecca waiting there for you. I'm so glad you decided to relocate your 'brew' as that water at the end made my heart skip a beat when you pushed the camera through the gap! That strange white stuff in the second section of the tunnel looked awfully like the terraces I saw in Turkey (Pamukkale), caused by a carbonate mineral. Thank you for a lovely interesting explore and for introducing, as you always do, a human element from the past with the information about the collapse with such a tragic outcome. 👍
Wonderful new adventure, thank you very much!
Great video as usual martin...did miss our james thou....fantastic insight...qell done xxxx
Great show...
You are in my neck of the woods Martin. 🙂 Lots of Railway history in Derbyshire and especially along the Monsal Trail. Interesting tour of the Haddon Tunnel. Another shell just sat there.
Great video Martin made my Sunday evening complete
Such a informative video ty! Excellent Collab as well .
The railway company initially wanted the track to run through the Chatsworth estate but the Duke of Devonshire refused, so they approached the Duke of Rutland instead ...
Nice memorial at the end. Great watch Martin
That was brilliant.
As usual.
Really enjoyable.
Thankyou.
Another fantastic video Martin, thank you 😎
Looking at how close the line is to Haddon Hall, if I was the Duke of Rutland I would have put in a tunnel too.
thanks you Martin for a nice video see you next time .
I like the Joy Division door closing with you still inside bit good 🤣. Another fascinating video Martin - the airshafts are an amazing bit of brickwork.
Interesting to see some heritage DVD-RWs there. To think there was a time in history where they were used for film and photos!
Great video Martin 👍
Marvelous! Is Liam a rock star? :)
Yes
Fantastic video love the way you make your content. My son summed it up well. You make learning new things fun
Cheers Nick
Most interesting and a nice piece of railway history albeit asthetically. Goodness that was a surprise at the other end “The Lake Of Doom”. It reminded me of one of the long canal tunnels like Blisworth or Standedge. I noticed from your video that the tunnel roof was not very deep noticeable through the ventilation shafts.👍
Martin, if you look on the side of those rail holders, or chairs as they’re called, they will be a company name & a date on them. It will ha w something like BR, LMS, GWR etc & month & year. 4/53 (April 1953) etc. oldest one I’ve seen to date on the mainline is at Worcester. It was GWR 3/38.
Just amazing! Thank you
Nice video guys, I have watched both videos yours and Paul and Rebecca's, thanks for the entertainment, poor James now known has the bad brew guy.....lol
Absolutely brilliant that, again!
Thank you for another gem.
That was quite interesting that thanks to Paul & Rebecca whitewick showing the way through the tunnel how come it was blocked off at the end towards the lake good video Martin 👍
Great stuff Martin. This railway line is one of my favourites & when I moved to the north west in the 1960s I fell in love with it, even saw a few steam locos on it before it closed. I did know about Haddon tunnel being a cut & shut, but it's so interesting to see the inside of it in detail. Thanks very much.
Sunday evening. A cup of coffee (in my case) and a Martin-Zero-video. How better to end the day ? A really nice one again - along with the Whitewicks. Thanks for sharing !
Thank you sir, hope your well 👍
That's taking Not In My Back Yard to a new level. Great historic video. Love this stuff!
I disagree,. It's an example of, let's have it here, let's just change the design a bit please. If more folks were focussed on on solutions rather than protests moderns projects wouldn't struggle so much and we would have better infrastructure. Great Video....
@@martindooley4439 I think I phrased it wrong
Fantastic. So interesting but also sad re the 5 deaths. Great to see the four of you together. Poor James missing out. Main thing is you got your brew. Thank you most entertaining explore.
The construction of stones in this tunnel is magnificent !!
So very beautiful.
Same story as Tixal Wide on the Staffordshire and worcestershire canal. The posh landowner made the canal engineers make the canal look like an ornamental lake on his land rather than a nasty industrial canal.
I'm ready again, let's go.
Learned something new about the British railways.
That was great Martin nice to see you back in railway tunnels I could almost hear the trains coming along, I think all the white calcification was lime coming out of the mortar between the brickwork. It would be quite nice if you could find the graves of Alfred and the others they must of been buried locally, any way another good one many thanks.
Thanks Martin...very interesting
Great video of a tunnel with some rather unusual features, imcluding side buttresses and ending in a lake - where i suspect you were rather glad to beat a hasty retreat to drier ground.
Another great video Martin
Martin another top quality video a good “A” for this one, keep them coming. 😁😁
Thank you Martin . I always enjoyn your videos. I wish that some day I can afford to go on one of your explores. I will bring spoons for a James brew up and some Scotish short bread. Mark Munro.
What a nice collaboration! Nice video. Cheers
Thanks Jim