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Cedar Point Boardwalk Analysis | New for 2023 Wild Mouse, Grand Pavilion, and More!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ส.ค. 2022
- Cedar Point is redoing the boardwalk section of their park with the addition of the Grand Pavilion and Wild Mouse roller coaster! The whole area has been reimagined and will be an awesome fit at the park!
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I don’t get why some enthusiast don’t understand that family coasters have to exist aswell. I’m extremely excited for this addition and think it will be great for an stepping stone coaster
True, they act like intense coasters are the only ones that matter.
It's not that enthusiasts hate family coasters, it's just that we feel there's an oversaturation in the family coaster market. I mean, as much as Big Bear Mountian looks fun, was it really necessary for Dollywood, the park that just opened FireChaser Express and Dragon Flyer, to get yet ANOTHER family coaster? The same goes for Canadas Wonderland. You got Thunder Run, you got Silver Streak, you got Ghoster Coaster...Instead of replacing Flight Deck and Time Warp with a B&M Invert and Flyer, they get ANOTHER family coaster that they honestly don't need. It gets to a point where there really is an overabundance of family coasters and not enough mid-tier thrill coasters for kids and inexperienced enthusiasts to take the next step. Say what you will about Iron Dragon and Corkscrew, but they're the perfect example of non-extreme, no frills thrill coasters that are perfect for people who have graduated from Woodstock's Express and Cedar Creek Mine Ride, but are still a little too afraid to ride Magnum, Millie, Maverick, or Vengeance.
Ik. I would have preferred a Mach extreme spinner. But this is way better for the park. CP definitely needed this.
Yeah, but ZAMPERLA uhhh
I wish Wicked Twisted would have gotten relocated though.
I was hopping for something else but this still looks like a really solid addition for the families as cedar point doesn’t have too many family coasters
I love a good wild mouse.
well they have 3 but i feel like another one was a good idea anyway
Wild mouses are just pure fun. And sometimes you just need fun between all the adrenaline rush. And that refurbished zone looks really pretty.
I like this addition a lot. You need areas like this in parks, it can't all be for coaster enthusiasts. And hey, coaster enthusiasts will probably ride the new wild mouse anyway. Cedar Point needed a family coaster and now they're getting one!
There are plenty of big thrills in the park already
Over the last couple years, I think CP has been trying to diversify away from just a coaster park, by adding and improving restaurants, improving the appearance of the areas, and adding more family rides. I think that’s great! It’s what differentiates CP from places like Magic Mountain. Sure, that park has a great collection of extreme coasters, but the food isn’t very good and it looks pretty ugly. Cedar Point is a much better overall experience!
Gotta get the credit😜
This is possibly the best thing that cedar point needed in a long time. Instead of just relying on coasters they can rely on just making the park look good for families and enthusiasts.
they haven’t been relying on coasters recently, i found the park beautiful
As someone who has cedar point as their home park I’m excited for the direction they are heading in! This is going to look good and have a fantastic family coaster.
This new area is going to be really nice! Not the biggest fan of wild mouses, especially the spinning variety, but I know Cedar Point likes to make all of their coasters special in some way, either it be a cool location, breaking a record, or just something about it, like Gemini's racing feature, Maverick's awesome layout and Gatekeeper's Keyhole Zero-G Roll
The only reason it disappoints me personally is that Wicket Twister was my guilty pleasure. Massively underrated coaster. Though I think this area will be an improvement for most, I’d rather they have kept WT.
I could see the possibility of future plans being to remove the coliseum and planet snoopy, revamp Kiddie Kingdom, and put a twister GCI in the boardwalk section with that opened space. Planet Snoopy is forgotten and always dead. With a revamped Kiddie Kingdom, I could see them doing away with it. The boardwalk section might liven up Planet Snoopy though so who knows.
That’s an interesting theory! Not a bad idea!
I loved WT as well. It totally was underrated, and the opposite of the spectrum is TTD which is unreliable and overrated. Guess which one never disappointed me?
Wicked twister was my favorite ride too
You and I are in complete agreement here. It looks like an amazing addition.
I was sad when they took down Wild Cat, but this is somewhat similar and probably will be better with the spinning element. Perfect addition to CP I think.
Im pretty excited for this expansion, not so much for the wild mouse but just because that area needed a bit of a facelift and a resturant where you can sit out and look at the lake sounds pretty cool.
This was a needed addition. Cedar Point really lacks a good family coaster. Can’t wait.
You've hit on so many points. CP will no doubt go on spree of adding major coasters again. It makes sense however at this point in time to make improvements on areas in the park that have needed attention for a long time
Just went yesterday took my 5 year old daughter on Woodstock Express and the other Kid coaster it was Awesome can't wait for this one!!!! It's great to see a young kid experience stuff like this!!! And I forget how much fun these can be!!
I definitely think they should’ve gone with a Kentucky Flyer/invadr style wood family coaster instead of the wild mouse, but I’m a big fan of the area upgrades
Blue streak already fills that role.
You're right on. CP should be nostalgic and dynamic utilizing all the real estate.
Seems like a nice place to take a break, have a beer, maybe enjoy some A/C and have a nice view of the lake. Looks like a win to me.
My biggest concern is that these wild mouse coasters don’t have the best capacity, and capacity would be very helpful for the park.
True true true but I think from the picture it shows multiple cars on at a time but also they are very small carts
@@DoodleDog066 That picture is misleading though. They have two cars after the lift hill. I don't see where the next block is after the lift hill. But I believe there are two cars occupying one block which is a big no-no in safety.
@@TommonSensePro oh
It's great that this gives Cedar Point a solid family area at the front of the park. Should simplify visits for families with very young kids, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wild Mouse gets a lot of kids excited about riding Gatekeeper or Valravn. Hoping CP expands on the nostalgia investment by putting Gravity Group EPT on Blue Streak for its 60th anniversary!
I agree with you!! I can’t wait to see the finished product 💙😁
How dare they don’t spend 3 years worth of income to build a 500ft rmc trex that spans to morocco and back 😡
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@@lamaripiazza5226 y’all needa chill
Been waiting for this analysis!! 🧐👍🏼
My dad and I went to cedar point in 2019 and the main thing we noticed was that we could never bring our family here due to the lack of kids rides. This is a great addition and they need a couple more family coaster to really help bring in families
The direction Cedar Fair has been and will continuing going in with upgrading entire themed lands at their parks is absolutely perfection. I can only hope they continue this trend to really theme each area and put actual thought into their investments. We love to see it!
Cedar Creek Mine Ride needs to go and a modern “coaster for all” needs to be put in its place.
@@deletedaccountdnd Something like Big Bear Mountain at Dollywood would be perfect for CCMR's plot of land.
@@moekitsune YES! I don’t get why this is such a big issue for people. Rides do eventually hit the end of their lifespan. Nostalgia can’t keep these rides around forever, sorry. CCMR needs to be replaced. Period.
Had that wild mouse in Coney Island And I loved it as a kid!!
I feel like most people aren’t really upset with this addition and most who complain were just convinced that the rumors of the RMC t-rex were true.
People online love to decide that rumors are true and then get mad when they aren't.
The park needs more family attractions I was bummed that it was going to be a wild mouse, but I did not realize that it was going to be a unique layout which interests me. The parks capacity is still going to be a massive problem which this ride doesn’t really help.
This is a great idea. There isn't a hell of a lot to do at Cedar Point for kids or people who don't like extreme thrill rides, it's not bad to have rides that cater to that demographic.
The Beach is freaking amazing. Went for an hour yesterday to take a break! Such a Gem. Best kept secret in Ohio! Not many other Parks has a magnificent beach next to it surrounded by Water!!
Alas, iis more than important to include everyone in the picture, as the ever-evolving Picasso of Cedar Point becomes even more beautiful and awe-inspiring.
As soon as I was tall enough, my mom threw me on Millennium whether I liked it or not. I Couldn’t be more grateful. Never understood family coasters.
I think this is the best thing they could have done. This part of the park and the parks family coasters was very lacking. You need family coasters to get younger kids interested in roller coasters. I think the next thing they should do is get rid of corckscrew and use that space along with the ride that’s being moved to create a tril coaster that doesn’t overshadow Steel Vengence
I was just at cedar point and the grand pavilion is in the works! You can see it being built from the top of the ferris wheel
You would think that Cedar Creek Mine Ride and Iron Dragon are family coasters, but inexplicably neither of them has a 42" height requirement - so Wild Mouse will at least start to fill that gap (even if it requires an accompanying adult)...but I still think they should recertify Mine Ride and Iron Dragon (and maybe Blue Streak) at 42"
I do agree with your analysis. I'd love to see a large coaster added, but stepping stone coaster absolutely makes more sense
I’m glad that Cedar Point is doing a refresh of this area and doing a boardwalk theme.
I’m not a fan of the chosen zamperla coaster model, I feel like they need a new family coaster which has a higher capacity for such a massive and popular park.
My take on this I've already mentioned but some kid somewhere is going to love that thing and its good to have a ride a kid loves pulling them back to the park so they can grow into SV.
I agree. If s a awesome fit. I go a lot with my husband who is a non rider. We often stay at breakers and he loves thebeach and the little bar there This seems like something that will help with experience for everyone. Not all of that goes for the coasters go with others that love me the coasters as well. I love the fact that they are thinking of everyone
I think the addition of this and Zambezi Zinger could maybe give us an idea of other parks new coasters. Maybe we’ll get a Hypersonic XLC or Volcano tribute coaster?
On a side note, I work at Keen Pump In Ohio & we made the the basin package for it, me and another guy put all the pipes and values in the basin that is going in the Boardwalk area.
It’s been forever since cedar point got a coaster I’m glad they’re getting one
Bro it hasn't been that long only 4 years yall need to chill.
It's been 4 years dude
If the ride is as scary as Ragin Cajun, it will not be a family coaster and honestly be scarier than Blue Streak and Gemini.
Maybe but that one just spins like crazy
I ride wind seeker yesterday and could get a great view of the construction. The structure of the building is coming along nicely, and construction looks like it’s about to start on the wild mouse.
Totally fine with this. This area needed a revamp and they weren't going to be able to fit anything big here anyway. Wild Mouse coasters are legitimately fun and it's nice they're making it a bit different, so it's not the same old wild mouse you've ridden a hundred times. Solid idea, nothing risky about it, and something to the make park that little bit more enjoyable.
I’m pretty excited for this the wild mouse looks really unique like barely looks like a wild mouse at all I do like the pavilion to and the overall beachside aesthetic is really nice I do agree that cedar point needs to have a good modern wooden roller coaster like a gci or gravity group I can see this won’t be everyone’s cup of tea especially hardcore enthusiasts but it’s pretty good and I also feel like this is filler for something big like valravn was to steel vengeance but idk that’s just my opinion
Im glad for this i never got to ride wildcat cedar point was missing a wildmouse since its removal
Cool
Swell done, CP
I'm exited for wild mouse 🐭
Also my fave ride is gate keeper
I like the bringing back old ride names and stuff
For a place like Cedar Point, where they have coasters more daunting than some people can imagine, and it can be very intimidating for people a little weary of getting on coasters, a disorienting spinning mouse may be a good thrill and a fantastic step towards the big league rides. I love this choice for Cedar Point
I’m so excited for this expansion that beach front bar is gonna be so cool
What I find very interesting is Matterhorn and scrambler are located next to corkscrew, I wonder if they’re gonna tear out corkscrew next, and that’s gonna be the site of a new ride
Edit, saw your comment after in the video, cool were in agreement
I appreciate themed sections and well maintained decor. Vintage boardwalk look is such a great idea. I only wish there was a pier you could walk down.
This will be a grate for everyone and can’t wait to come to cp next year
Honestly I don't mind that CP is getting a family coaster. I think this entire area will be a great fit for the park, but the only thing I don't like about it is that Giant Wheel is blocking the view you get of the grand pavilion from the midway. Maybe if they took out kiddie kingdom and moved the giant wheel somewhere else in the park, CP could make that land a whole new beautiful pathway to the grand pavilion, showing the history of the park on plaques kind of like what KI did for its 50th.
I cant wait to have a family coaster like wild mouse, I will enjoy it because I’m not a thrill person
Cedar point has like 5 family coasters I think a cheaper but still fun ride is what this park needs
Some people need to calm down, like not every coaster has to be bigger and badder than the previous one, if that was the case we would have 1000 ft roller coasters and that’s not realistic. Like sure this might not be the biggest addition but it’s a fun addition that’s needed in the park. I always say that I personally don’t care as long as it’s fun and is something the park needs. I also have a feeling that a bigger coaster will be coming soon like 2024-2025 or so, but we’ll have to wait and see. And this addition is good cause that area of the park REALLY needed and update, it felt so dead and empty imo, so doing this will help to give that area of the park that fun and alive feel that is needed. And personally I think they should take out cedar creek mine ride and add a good gci in that plot of land, CCMR really doesn’t get a line and that’s a perfect plot of land for a gci.
The only thing I am worried about with the Wild Mouse is the capacity. This thing is ALWAYS going to have a 2+ hr line
Edit: I just got to the point where you talked about the capacity lol
It's a fantastic fit. Cedar Point is fundamentally a boardwalk park (though certainly on a very large scale.) I like that the park is embracing that identity more. It doesn't need to be a theme park but it's really helpful when parks really embrace their aesthetic.
Also, wild mouse coasters are underrated and always a fun addition, even if they aren't necessarily elite coasters.
I'm just glad they didn't replace another great roller coaster with a RESTAURANT
they should add a restaurant with a coaster running through it lol, the decibels would go insane
0:27 It doesn’t because CP fanboys, despite having the best coaster collection in the world, will find anything to complain about because they’re extremely pessimistic and spoiled and aren’t real enthusiasts.
I will forever miss wicked twister :(
I like everything about it, except for a park like Cedar Point the wild mouse should have been like twice the size with some type of dual station loading system in order to double the capacity. The wild mouse at Knotts Berry Farm's line is painfully slow and I think this just leads to frustration for guests when you wait so long for a ride and then it's so short.
This is think is the best thing to happen to Cedar Point in a while. The boardwalk and beach front restaurant looks amazing and is going to be a great price of heritage, that will surely liven up that area of the park. It will also give it some character. In terms of why they chose to go with a family coaster, as you and other have said, family coasters need to exist as well. We enthusiasts aren’t not the majority. Families are. Especially after this whole pandemic, we have a bunch of families coming out in droves trying to entertain their little gremlins. And I’m pretty sure some of those families don’t have the funds or energy (despite their wishes) to go all the way to Disney, so they go to the next best thing (the better thing imo).
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Family coasters is a big issue in a lot of Cedar Fair parks, but I'm not sure a ride like this truly addresses the issue for some of them - even if I do think this wild Mouse is a solid addition to CP.. One area where Seaworld and Herschend aeating CF's lunch is in the high-end Family Coaster experience. As a single Example, King's Dominion is getting beat up by both BGW in the east (Verbolten) and Dollywood to the West (Firechaser Express, Dragonflier, and now Big Bear Mountain) and have.... well, some pretty mediocre offerings in return. Reptilian, Backlot and Ricochet are OK, but don't hold a candle to those others (with the possible exception of Dragonflier.)
I feel like CF really needs to invest in top-class Family attractions for most of their parks. CP is a bit of an anomaly, since it is a true destination park for thrill-seekers, but the rest of the chain could really use some love in that department.
Same with SeaWorld San Diego. They already have Manta, and now they're building an Intamin family multi-launch coaster
I love how the Ferris Wheel will look like in front of the restaurant
Even though it’s not what many wanted I personally don’t mind it Cedar Point doesn’t always need a big coaster
I hope that they will still get a big coaster within 2 years and not wait another 4-5 years.
Personally I imagine they will
yeah I do too. I also have heard that people think moving some of those flat rides might mean they are removing corkscrew which would give a fairly big plot of land.
As of today I can now officially say that Cedar Fair has the second best theme park food behind Disney. And I’m not joking. The food offerings that I had at Kings Dominion and Kings Island were some of the best food I have ever had in my entire life especially the food at Kings Island and what they did with the limited edition 50th anniversary and now Cedar point is Falling Up by adding several new restaurants and they all look amazing. Also with the park atmosphere it kind of feels like you’re at a Disney park because they’re putting shows that are on par with Disney like for example the most Disney feeling Park in the chain is Kings Island with their firework show their entertainment and their food but Cedar point is kind of feeling like that and hotel breakers looks exactly identical to the grand Floridian Resort. So both of the 2 Ohio Cedar Fair parks kind of feel like Disney World but with thrilling roller coasters And not as good of theming.
While it’s good to dream what there next big thrill coaster be. People have to realize Cp has to think about the family who walk threw the gates every operational day. As there not as much for them to do
I kinda think they can shoehorn RailBlazer in where Matterhorn and Scrambler currently are, if they loose the bathrooms, juice stand and some trees.
but they'll probably add a new restaurant there
The renovation looks like it will be a nice refresh. I don’t mind the park getting a new family coaster. Neither a spinning coaster nor a wild mouse (and most certainly not a spinning wild mouse) was what think was the best family coaster option available. I will give the coaster a fair chance and give it a try.
But, I absolutely HATE the idea of the grand pavilion. Renovate the existing food areas if you’re trying to change the food scene (which needs help) and use the entire Wicked Twister plot to build a family coaster that can handle Cedar Point’s attendance.
We agree with a lot of what you said. We believe this is a great addition too the park. Remember they are now building for everyone too enjoy the park and it includes families who are making it a weekly destination and non roller coaster folks. There gourmet type restaurants bring in money to the park. Remember there in business too make money 💰 and that’s what there marketing surveys are telling them. So everybody needs too enjoy A park like no other.
Railblazer from California's great america is likely as well because it fits the plot of land perfectly and Cedar Point doesn't have an RMC single rail yet.
I think This is a wonderful thing yes that side of the park needed a fresh look in it looks a amazing in I wasn’t wanting to ride this but I remember going on wild cat it was so much fun in I been trying it for sure in it really exciting that they are being things from the past renaming some rides in some people where saying that they are turning into Disney World I’m like they are not turning into Disney word understand why cedar point was to be a resort they want there Guest to be happy at there hotels in be near the park cedar always had hotels for families to choose from in my opinion they have plenty of hotels for all different budgets !
this looks like a fantastic wild mouse, can't wait to ride it.
has there been any word on if or where they're moving wicked twister to?
It’s only a matter of time before they build an actual pier and fill it with rides like the Jersey shore or Santa Monica if they continue this boardwalk theme!
All i want is them to renovate the bathrooms around the park. That is the one thing that will make me happy
I can't say I was not a teensy bit disappointed when I heard CP is getting a Wild Mouse. But hearing the history behind it and that it will have a free-form/custom layout does make it more of a positive than I originally thought. If they reopen TTD next season my delicate thoosie heart will be satisfied 😌 I'm quite excited about the Grand Pavillion, those 2nd floor patios look amazing and I can't wait to see what kind of restaurant they put in there! Super curious about your thoughts on the Corkscrew area and what could be happening there 🤔 Maybe they will revamp the TTD midway with new shops/flat rides, I can't imagine they would get rid of corkscrew.
I like that they did this but what I think they should do next is build a gravity group wooden coaster in the style of voyage that turns to the right over the beach and then runs along the shore and then maybe has a twister section over the water that’s near the parking lot
You haven't talked about TTD, in the announcment, they said that the wild mouse will be their 18th roller coaster, that means they will not tear down dragster. Great news!
It would be honestly stupid to tear down Dragster. It's literally a coaster and a monument rolled into one.
@@francescov.3610 yea just to cancel all rumors.
Complaining about a wild mouse goes to show how much cedar point has spoiled us over the years. At first I wasn’t happy about this new addition but it’s actually grown on me over time and from a business perspective I completely understand.
I'm okay with the addition/revamp of that area, but I find it interesting that they're leaving the wheel, as it basically blocks the view of the front of the Grand Pavilion.
Now they'll finally have a spinning coaster. One of the few things they still miss.
I say rail blazer goes where the moved flat rides go.
Cedar point doesn’t have a single rail coaster. I really think they’ll get rail blazer and put it on the small plot of land
That, or they make an invader (BGW) style woody to put in that section where they’re moving rides from
I think that wild mouse will be a solid fit
This is definitely more of a normal spinning coaster than a wild mouse but still having hairpin sections, a lot like Pandemonium. Kinda interesting to name it wild mouse though when it's not actually a wild mouse like every other wild mouse named coaster out there.
Are you planning an analysis on the new fiesta village announcement form Knotts
We are releasing a video covering all the Cedar fair announcements and will discuss this there!
Why isn’t that red brick path along the beach? And the rides set back towards the park? It would be a boardwalk that way.
Im really excited for the new life that is about to be put into this area of the park! I'm just wondering what they gonna do with that extra space left by moving those two flats. Better start getting rides on Corkscrew ya'll
Well I hope they get a bunch of new mechanics because its a Zamperla and not only that a Zamperla prototype.
skylinepark in Germany would have the same layout but instead of spinningcars .. it would get a train !
I feel like they should replace Camp Snoopy with a GCI. I feel that two Snoopy kids’ areas is unnecessary and they need a new wooden coaster. Six Flags Great Adventure replaced one of their Looney Tunes kids’ areas with Jersey Devil Coaster while they kept the other.
Should’ve got a GCI on that waterfront, would’ve been epic.
If it was custom I don’t think you’d hear the hate. I just don’t think people expect an out of the box coaster at CP.