How To Install Pertronix Electronic Ignition In Your Classic Aircooled Volkswagen Beetle
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- Today we are installing the Electronic Ignition Pertronix module into the existing distributor in the VW Bug.
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Thank you for simplifying this system. The one I bought had absolutely no instructions with it and I didn’t want to burn anything up so thanks again you’re awesome.
Glad I could help!
Yeah man. I've been Cruising bug for 38+ year's and you convinced me too go with the new set up, so old heads can be turned. 👍✌
It’s not about convincing, what works for me won’t always work for someone else. We all have our preferences, do what works best for you!
Great video ! I liked THE CROW at the end too !
Glad you enjoyed it
That's why I like you so much you just make thing's so simple without fuss.
I'm such a novice I wouldn't even touch this upgrade as simple as it is but you destroyed those negative thoughts. Blessings and more blessings to you and your family 👍🙏✌️
I greatly appreciate the compliments man, I’m just a guy doing his thing and sharing what little knowledge that I have. So many others are more knowledgeable than I am, just surround yourself with like minded people and play off of each other’s strengths.
Wishing you a wonderful and safe week.
Awesome! Thx for the straight forward video!
Glad you found it helpful!
Great straight-forward tutorial, VWJawbreaker! I agree points are fine but electronic ignition is a worthy upgrade.
Haptic Garage thank you sir, both have their advantages I guess. I just prefer to install it and forget it.
Great informational Video. I have Petronics distributor in my Baja. It works great and always starts right up. Thanks for sharing your VW knowledge and keep doing it for everyone in our community. BigW:-)
+Big W Adventures thank you as always for your support and friendship! I hope you both have a fantastic rest of the week my friend.
Thats awesome man. 🚗💨
JN performance thanks!
Thanks for the great video!
Thank you 🙏
Great helpful video Gary! I am still running points but maybe someday will do this and keep as a backup. Nice! Thanks
E-man Deluxe nothing wrong with points... use what you like! 👍
Awesome video I got this exact kit, guys you have made my day :-)
Thank you for watching and commenting! Glad the video was helpful, that’s what the channel is about.
That was cool. Thanks.
I appreciate you being here.
Awesome video my friend! Keep them coming please! =)
CT thanks my friend.
He is the inventor of the 😂😂😂😂
Good video brother!! Great tip to keep the points... or the extra distributor handy just in case.
+JW Classic VW most definitely! I have a complete distributor with points and clamp installed.... 1 13mm nut and I’m swapped back within minutes.
A couple savy daily drivers right here... Read and learn folks
Good video. Set it and forget it!
Vintage Speed VW you got that right!
Just ordered mine. Same 009 setup. Thanks for explaining it, I figured it was easy I didn't realize how easy tho.. 1 🌎 1 ❤️🙏🏻
Glad you found the video helpful!
Do you put the condenser screw back?
@@djjonnybong uses a different screw
Yes so the hole is closed up and the screw is easy to locate if needed in the future.
Man right on
Thanks man 🙏
One word of advice. Keep your old German distributor as a spare and keep it in your car. Two days ago the electronic distributor kit when bad on my 1971 VW Super Beetle, the center part with the magnets turned to pieces. There I was on a parking lot and thank God I kept my old one just in case. In a couple of minutes I installed it and I was back on the road!
Couldn’t agree more. I set the timing with the old distributor in place, remove the lock down clamp so when I drop it back into place the timing is set. Definitely doesn’t hurt to carry spare parts!
i was trained on this type of ignition in the 70's , for me its not having to check timing every so often , with this you can have a little peace of mind about that task ,,,,,dont forget to install a resistor so you dont exceed amps and burn it out ! have a good day
It is nice to pretty much set it and forget it. I carried the points and condenser in my tool bag as a backup.
As for the resistor, I never added one since I ran the proper ohm coil and never had an issue.
@VWJAWBREAKER is there a certain type of coil I would need to change to the Pertronics setup?
high ohms coil should be better most makers of modules they usually tell u not to exceed 4amps so the module does not get hot ok this is ohms law thats all ,,,,,you add all the resistance for example coil 9ohms "example resistor say 1ohm ok equals 10ohms take a voltage reading say 13.5 volts devide the 2 and you get AMPS ,,,,,now my pertonix box did not come with any instructions with it ? and i see lots of people connecting 12 volts to the pertronix ,,,i am guessing we can do that with this ignition i guess it will take 12 volts ,,,,,i DID NOT do that with mine i ran a 1 ohm resistor between to keep the module runing cooler ,,,,heat kills them , mine has been in over 3 years now i ride an average or 50 to 200 miles a day every day i am retired 70 years young its my hobby LOL ,,,,,i just did not wanna run 12 volts to it ,,,,,,its not nessesary at all ,,,,,i have great spark ,gass mileage is super etc etc etc ,,,,,,i had forgot i posted a comment on here is why it took so long to answer ,,,,,my apology my friend ,,,,,,,hope this makes sense to you ,,,,,god bless @@stevegearlds7227
Great Video!! I never tried pertonix yet. I imagine it is smoother. I should try that this time around.
Slades VW Beetle thank you sir! In my opinion, the engine seems to idle and preform better with the electronic ignition. Again, my preference and experience.
VWJawbreaker I could imagine it really does. I’m probably going to go that direction. Right now I currently have a Mallory dual point distributor on hand. I used it on my last beetle and it performed nicely. Or the dual Weber’s made it feel better, not sure which one. But I think electronic would work much better!
Slades VW Beetle it was probably the combo of the two that made it feel good. I’ve heard good things regarding the dual point, run that if you already have it.
VWJawbreaker I do have one that is like new. The only concern I have is it doesn’t seem to play well with the stocks Solex though. But, I’m still undecided with my carburetor.
Slades VW Beetle you’ll figure it out, I have faith in you.
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You show this just putting it in.
But to get this to work, you have to re-time it, right? Possibly the timing might happen to land right where it should be, but then again, it might not. There's some variation in points adjustment anyway.
Do you have a video adjusting the timing on the Pertronix unit?
(I have a pertronix unit, but I figure your subscribers would want to see that.)
That’s a good point however by pulling the distributor with the clamp, the timing should be spot on. Of course it’s a good idea to double check your timing to ensure it’s correct. Setting the timing with a Pertronix vs points is the same procedure.
Does this exact kit work on ignition with vacuum advanced
No, this module is for the 009 distributor. You’ll need to get the proper model for your distributor
Thank you I don't know what to do now I'm very depressed all this time waiting for the engine and they send me one that I can't install the Heater Box .
+kg4qpb Laureano I’m sure you’ll figure something out.
Hello there, I am installing the ignitor 1 with my existing blue Bosche coil (brand new), do I have to have special spark plug wires (leads) ? As I already have a brand new Bosche set (was planning to install ) but I thought to check with you first. I am running a 1500cc and a Solex 30pict-2 and a 009 (050) Bosche dizzy. Please advise. Cheers from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 🍻
Hi there. You’re good to run the blue coil and stock wires with that ignition module. 🤙
I'm getting ready to convert my 65 bug to electronic ignition and my mechanic said I would need to change the whole distributor and coil as well. After seeing this video, I'm curious to find out if there is any advantage to changing everything, or just to upgrade to the petronix like you showed. Any thoughts?
Depends on what distributor you want to run and which module you get. Some modules do require a different coil but all modules are capable of dropping in place of the points…. Just make sure you get the appropriate module for your distributor.
I've only ever used points.
I've thought about grabbing one of those for the Bella,
I've heard both sides of the argument... I'm still not sure....
VeeDub P8 if you do decide to switch from points, stay away from the empi module.... just my $.02 👍
What is the gap between the magnet and the sensor
Not sure, it’s preset.
Accident: i crossed the wires in my elec dist. and heard a little bzzzt inside the distributor..they say it's fried, right ? Throw it away ? Option A) Can i do what you just did w/ the exact same parts in this video and get it to revive ? Would that work ?--or-- Option B) Dust off the conventional dist off my shelf (w/ points) and do exactly what you did in the video - any advice would help - thanks, Pg
Hey buddy, if you heard the noise and or saw the smoke come out, it’s fried. Best thing to do is get another or just go back to points for the time being.
I just installed a pertronic on my 72 2.0 Pinto with the Flame thrower coil as a kit I got it from ebay $128 . I reset the timing, drove it and it kicks ass, 80 miles later it starts backfiring and powering down on my way to the swap meet, tac jumps to zero then back up to normal. I pull over and car idles fine. but as i get in the gas it's having trouble picking up to speed while I'm letting the clutch out, I feather it, it gets going then bogs and backfires LOUD AS HELL, lol. at least 20-30 times while I'm getting her home about 5 miles away. I switch out the coil, still the same bogging. then I start checking coil wire, alternator wires and a few other connections, Now it's seems ok, Then last night, It acted up again.
I'm hearing from some youtubes to run a hot from the steering column to the hot on the pertronix wire?? by doing that, I'm guessing you leave it off the coil if you're doing that type of wiring?
That’s really odd man, I haven’t seen an issue like that before with Pertronix. Try disconnecting your tach wire and see if you still have the same issue. I’ve seen where the tach wire shorts out and causes issues.
@@VWJawbreaker Quick response :) Thanks, My tac is a after market add on Sunpro. It does have some great power added like you say at the end of your video when it is working right.
William CRAZY LACY Furmage I only have experience with the models for VW’s not other brands.
But disconnect your tach wire that hooks up to the coil and see if that solves the problem.
Gary blue coil ok or should you get a high output Pertronix's coil??
Dan Love depends on what Pertronix module you’re going to run. Stock blue coil is fine for the Pertronix 1, the 2 or 3 performs better with their coil.
I'm having trouble with mine it's the vacuum version. The rotory arm won't sit lowto lock in on the shafts. In turn the cap won't fit on because of this 🤦🏼♂️
That’s odd. I’m sure you’ll get it sorted out.
Do you need to change the coil to make things all nice and happy?
Depends on which module you use. For the Pertronix 1, I used the stock Bosh cool as it’s 3 ohms like the directions state.
Great instruction video. Thx. I just installed in my SVDA on my '73 Super Beetle.
One thing I had to check was the coil resistance which Petronix advises must have a MIN 3 ohms. I didn't realise that until I received the module.
The stock Bosch was only 2.8 ohms, so had to buy a High Energy Black Bosch coil which has 3.4 ohms.
I’m glad the video was able to help you out!
One thing I’ve noticed was different Bosch could have a variation of values anywhere from the upper 2’s to almost 4 ohms.
Do you have to pull the distributor to do the upgrade? I don't know much about reinstalling the distributor.
Brian Hall you don’t have to hit it does make it easier. The distributor can only go back into the drive inside the case one way. See if this video helps you out
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Sorry if I missed it. What did you set your timing to? Did you remove the vacuum tube and plug it or leave it on? Thanks as always.
This part number and install video is for a 009 distributor. Pertronix has a different part number for vacuum advance distributors.
To set your timing with a vac advance distributor, you’d want to remove the vacuum hose and plug the hole on the carb.
Yeap, better starts in the cold, even if your sparkplugs are not in the best of shapes, and it's just install and no need to fiddle with it for years, as opposed to points, one less thing to worry about.
Couldn’t agree more!
Just keep your points and condenser as a spare in your tool kit.
My electronic ignition module keeps going out. I have always kept a spare. But the money I've spent is not worth the maintenance free perk. I am now thinking about going back to points. We purchased the correct coil, and plug wires not sure if I'm buying another one.
That’s really odd, I haven’t heard that before. If you keep having that kind of luck I’d go back to points as well.
Hey men good vid..its looks very simple..thx but let ask you, im very new on this, and in scare to remove the distributor..can i install it with out removing it or it has come out..?
Ricardo Rios thank you for the compliment!
You do not have to remove the distributor, unless the condenser screw is impossible to get to. If that’s the case, I have a video that shows how to remove the distributor and not mess up the timing. Let me know if you have any questions.
@@VWJawbreaker thank you so much..will definitely try this..
Do i need to change over to a 12 volt coil or can I use the same coil with resister to 8volts?
For this model you’ll need 12 volts.
Points do work fine but it sure seems like you always have to mess with them.. The Pertronix would be more of a set it and forget it. Can you give us a review in a few months to let us know how it's doing?
Rob Stapleton I actually installed that module 2 years ago before I was doing videos. I upgraded to a different style distributor all together so I had it laying on the bench, thus the video 🤪
@@VWJawbreaker Ah so this is the update video 😂.. I guess it holds up pretty good!
Rob Stapleton not really an update, just thinking about some of the tips you gave me.
Just make sure you have a coil with 3ohm resistance or higher
Depends on which model you’re using. Follow the manufacturer’s recommendations.
a question on another topic My engine from mofoco finally arrived when I was installing the heater boxes one stud was stripped I try to removed and it broke now I have a head with a broken stud and a broken drill bit on it my question is can i change that head only and used one i have from another motor or I have to change both
kg4qpb Laureano you might not need to replace the head. Take the engine to a shop and see if they can weld a nut on it and remove the broken stud.
If not you’ll need to buy a head that is the same specs as what they built the engine with.
@@VWJawbreaker What about if I used the two head that I keep from the old engine or can I move all the valves,sprints, rockers from the mofoco head to the one I have.
kg4qpb Laureano without seeing the engine specs from them, I can’t honestly answer that question.
Which pertonix are you using?
The 1847a model.
Can i use L300 petrol van distributor
I’m not familiar with those.
Hello my friend by any chance can you tell me the model number of the pertronix.
I found one in Amazon. 1847A.
It's the right one? Thanks for the video and your help
It all depends on the distributor that you have will depend on what module you buy.
I have an empi vacuum advance distributor .
Thanks for the quick response best regards
@@TheOsolito the vacuum advance distributor would not take the same part number as the 009 distributor in this video.
new plugs/wires new coil new cap and distributor no spark will this replace my ignition igniter only thing i have left ? but cant find the one i need ????
Could be a ground issue or a power to the coil issue. Put a set of points in and see if that works.
I should of done this.. Monday my new distributor came in BUT it wont slide thru my dist clamp.. Its because the bolt is bent in the clamp and can't widen it 😩 sooo.. Perfect excuse to shop for a better nicer clamp lol
VW RICH FLAT4 what’s sad is the module I was using just burnt up on me 😔 but I installed it before I was recording videos. Went back to points for a week, missed the smoothness from the electronic so I went with the CB Performance Magnaspark. Man, seriously money well spent!
You mentioned quicker start ups.. That's one thing about my car, it doesn't start fast.. I haven't been able to try with the new distributor yet but i hope it fixes that
VW RICH FLAT4 it should help. If you’re battling a carb issue or running way too rich or lean, you may not see a difference. With electronic, the spark is stronger especially if you change out the coil to match the ignition module.
@@VWJawbreaker im putting it on the 'future plans' list 👍👍
For the 009
1847a module
How do I test my Petronix Module? I have a multimeter to test it.
Not sure, check their web site. I ran it for a while until I moved to a bigger engine and different ignition setup.
Coil pack and only negative signal and you cancel dispuroter… ..GM COIL PACK 3WIRE
1.GND
2.12VOLT IGN
3.SIG (FROM COND OR ENGINE SPEED SEN)
ALSO CAN USE VW COIL PACK AND OUT PUT 4 WIRE FROM COIL IT SELF
I haven’t used a GM coil in a VW.
@@VWJawbreaker more power 1,4coil. 3,2coil
Iused this power pack coil
And injecter with ecu bocsh and iprogram it
Nice run and lot of power
My work base
In PLC and transmission ecu astroinc zf and MDT control unit
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Coil control with 3 wire
And 1 wire control by hall sensor… .then no need cab and delco can put only speed sense detect cam speed or crank Polly
Thx for your replay
Sorry if ihave wrong spelling…. My language is arabic
Don’t worry about spelling, my language is English and I still misspell hahahaa
Not sure if my distributor would handle what you’re suggesting. I’m running a CB Performance Magnaspark distributor that uses a 1 ohm coil at 30,000 volts.
What about the coil , do you have to use a coil with internal resistor or outside resistor, cause I used a coil with no resistor and burned the module, I got a pertronix. 40,000 v .
What about the vacuum advance. Does that get removed?
Ed Weigman no it wouldn’t. Vacuum advance distributor would use a different part number from Pertronix. This video was showing you on a non vacuum advance distributor.
@@VWJawbreaker thanks, i did some more research, i ordered the wrong electronic conversion. I looked in my pile of crap that came with the car and I have 4 old distributors all with the old style vacuum advance. Im going to put point back in it for now until i can get a distributor that will work with my 100 dollar PerTronix unit.
I’d stay with the vacuum advance distributor if you’re already running it. Try to return the Pertronix and get the correct one. Just my opinion.
VWJAWBREAKER I’ll have to call jugs and see if they will exchange. I bought it in a kit.
A bit late to the party here lol. So is there no need to re fit the rotar ?
Does that just go in the bag along with the points & condenser?
Still need the cap and rotor. Points and condenser go in a bag. 👍
@@VWJawbreaker thanks for the reply.
I was asking as my doesn't fit when the ring is on. It sits too high.
@@notanotherrick if the center ring isn’t all of the way down then the rotor won’t fit onto the center shaft correctly.
@@VWJawbreaker I'll find my "tapping stick" and try and persuade it to move 👍
@@notanotherrick No, you'll need to rotate it gently around the shaft, and then when it's aligned it will slide down. The inside of the magnetic rotor isn't round; it's shaped like the shaft, so it has four lobes.
Bro where I can buy it
Ari Ferdiansyah any online VW parr’s place has them and even amazon. Shop around for the module that fits your type of distributor.
How to buy?
Any online parts supplier should sell them. Make sure you get the proper one for the style distributor that you have.
The bare feet! That's how you work on a bug.
Keep the floors clean down in Florida! Too hot for shoes 😂👍
No CDI box??
Nope,
Hooks straight to the coil.
@@VWJawbreaker so it's more like an HEI than a CDI?
@@nicktelesco4950 neither really, it’s an electronic points replacement.
Next question.. will this application still work with the 009 distributor with vacuum advance or the 009 distributor with mechanical advance without having to do the modification as in pop riveting the hole in the lower butterfly of the mechanical advance pict34 carburetor and adding a 130 main Jet
@@nicktelesco4950 a “009 with vacuum advance” isn’t a 009…. 009’s are only mechanical advance.
You’d need to get the proper part depending on what distributor you have.
Plugging the hole in the carb or not and different main jet is a totally different thing vs putting a Pertronix in the distributor.
Or Porsche 912e lol
Brandon Carrigan good point!
Petronix is no durable...🌡Keep Points and Condenser for spare..You going need them one day on road.🚙
Samsung S4 I’ve ran Pertronix for over 3 years before I swapped distributors and engines. I always carried the points and condenser as a backup.
I know several others who have had their Pertronix modules for 5-10 years plus without issue.
That's what I'm hearing