Struggling with the car is no excuse for keeping it pinned and blasting back onto track like that. They should’ve owned their mistake and apologised and not tried to justify it. For such a blatant lack of judgement “I’m sorry, but…” doesn’t cut it. We all need to do better.
I hope Super Formula becomes _the_ open-wheel series in terms of participation. Nice scenes and editing, plus additional props for knowing the pronunciation of people's names - you don't often expect someone from the UK to not pronounce Vranic as "Vranick", etc 👍
Ah me too! The schedule next season looks great with lots of popular tracks so hopefully lots of people participating! Ha and thanks re the names - I definitely don’t always get it right though! 😂😂
If you want an easy way to get a good start, here is the technique I worked out that works quite well (using auto-clutch help), and is quite competitive against those using dual clutches (which I don't have), 1. When clock ticks to 0 seconds, hold brake at 100%. 2. Shift to 1st gear. 3. Floor it to 100% throttle (while still holding brake at 100%). 4. When the lights go green, release the brake as quickly as possible. 5. Hold that 100% throttle for just under 1 second. Then release it quickly to at least 40% throttle. Then feel for the traction limit of the tyres, and push harder when you feel confident. Btw, between step 3 and 4, you can partly release the brake (up to 50%), and the car will still hold stationary. I don't think it makes any real difference though for the start, as I've checked how many frames it takes to comes off both full brake, or part brake, and they seem identical at around 40ms. The best way to practice this start is to roll out of the pits, back up to the start line, set the Active Reset point, and maybe even set a custom sector of just the straight (do a quick click of the start custom sector immediately after you drop the brake, and it will time from like 10cm from your active reset point, then just stop before the end of the straight, and click the button to go to your custom reset point, and it will set the sector end based on where you stopped). Do a good 10-15 mins of practice using this technique and guaranteed, you will be starting better than 95% of the field.
The biggest thing is Super Formula certainly in this opening season is surviving Lap 1. I can honestly say in every SF race I've done I've seen lap 1 carnage. Survive the opening lap, and it usually ends up being a rather enjoyable race and more often than not a SR and iR gain.
These cars (and the new Hypercars) make me want to get iRacing. Yes, there are shunts but people need to get used to the cars. They're the second quickest open wheelers in the world at the moment, of course people will crash. But I love F2 cars and think F1 cars with their speed and 8 gears are a bit too much of a pain to drive over longer stints, while Super Formula slots in right inbetween. I drove ACC for a few years now and love it for GT3 but been always interested in iRacing for open wheelers and prototypes. By the way, great cut and commentary, shame about the first incident, I think the second one is on you, didn't lift at all at 2:58, can't go full throttle towards a spinning car, imagine doing that in real life...
So incredibly frustrating! Even in lights, I had great speed at Watkins Glen, qualified 3rd 1st lap when we got on to the long straight, someone drove into the back of me trying to overtake and punted me off, my crashed ruined 3 other peoples race too 😒
This is a good representation of the shortcomings in iracings license system. People farm SR to get an A licence then think they are good enough to race SF at an ir of 1k.
How is it now? I've found great racing lately and wonder if this series is worth the time. Seems most in practice lobbies can't keep their cars on the track 😅
Your comment on lap 3 about car not being up to temp, hear this a lot but without at any time looking at any telemetary which you did not appear to do, how do know if the car is not up to temp and that you are not just overdriving the corners. Two or three laps into a race If I miss an apex or understeer I always assume its my driving not a cold car or tyres.
Hey Neil - it’s a fair point! To be honest I’m going off feel at that point and knowing that I’m driving fairly consistently. I’m finding I end up setting my quickest times in SF towards the 9/10 lap period, so my conclusion is I’m not getting heat into my tyres early enough. But you’re right that I should check that! 😅
This car is very fuel sensitive, in that your times will improve significantly the lighter your car is and the tyres will not drop off, at all in a sprint; assuming No repetitive lock ups/burn outs. The rears are very sensitive to overheating and will give a very loose balance after a few over rotations. The lights on the left of the dash screen are also an indication of temperatures. Bottom LED lit, is signifying brake temperature is suboptimal. Top LED is nearly optimal, but not quite and all lights lit blue/white, signifies all up to optimal temps and good to go. The reason your best times are nine to ten laps in, is most likely fuel related and not tyre.
Naturally the inflow of new drivers attracted to a cool car will always be greater than the slower progression into a skilled, respectful mindset. This problem isn’t going away. It’s why I stick to slower open wheelers because that baseline of skilled drivers already exists. These cars, much less good racecraft, unfortunately require too much skill for people to appreciate.
@@Ben_LaBroca I totally understand. As fun as it seems, I personally have not chosen to purchase it out of respect for the skills I need to pilot such a machine. And also to save as much money for my 2024 kart racing season. Trying to get into real life racing has certainly costed me more than expected at first. Though I hope that 2024 will be less costly than this year was.
Most people can’t handle 1600cc FF cars due to their open wheels. What makes you think they can handle powerful ones? Furthermore, you should have realized that a car traveling very quickly was off track and was goin* to end up someplace, including in front of you driving slower. But you can’t figure this out…
SF23 isn’t terrible, it’s good racing. Your headline is ridiculous and misleading. Almost as bad as your speculation and your amateur commentary. Please just be quiet and drive.
Excellent video, commentary and editing!
Thank you so much buddy!
Struggling with the car is no excuse for keeping it pinned and blasting back onto track like that. They should’ve owned their mistake and apologised and not tried to justify it. For such a blatant lack of judgement “I’m sorry, but…” doesn’t cut it. We all need to do better.
Nice one. Imagine the carnage when rain is introduced!
It’s just about trying to survive first lap most of the times, and this is in probably every series in iracing. 😝
Haha it’s a fair point!
I hope Super Formula becomes _the_ open-wheel series in terms of participation. Nice scenes and editing, plus additional props for knowing the pronunciation of people's names - you don't often expect someone from the UK to not pronounce Vranic as "Vranick", etc 👍
Ah me too! The schedule next season looks great with lots of popular tracks so hopefully lots of people participating!
Ha and thanks re the names - I definitely don’t always get it right though! 😂😂
Nice one again Ben! Nice move around the outside for P7 :)
Thanks Jim mate - appreciate it!
Great video & enjoying watching you battling it out in that Super Formula car. Those races look wild!
Thanks Sam mate! It’s definitely a hair raising experience!! 😂
@Ben_LaBroca I'm tempted to download the Super Formula just to see how tricky they are!
If you want an easy way to get a good start, here is the technique I worked out that works quite well (using auto-clutch help), and is quite competitive against those using dual clutches (which I don't have),
1. When clock ticks to 0 seconds, hold brake at 100%.
2. Shift to 1st gear.
3. Floor it to 100% throttle (while still holding brake at 100%).
4. When the lights go green, release the brake as quickly as possible.
5. Hold that 100% throttle for just under 1 second. Then release it quickly to at least 40% throttle. Then feel for the traction limit of the tyres, and push harder when you feel confident.
Btw, between step 3 and 4, you can partly release the brake (up to 50%), and the car will still hold stationary. I don't think it makes any real difference though for the start, as I've checked how many frames it takes to comes off both full brake, or part brake, and they seem identical at around 40ms.
The best way to practice this start is to roll out of the pits, back up to the start line, set the Active Reset point, and maybe even set a custom sector of just the straight (do a quick click of the start custom sector immediately after you drop the brake, and it will time from like 10cm from your active reset point, then just stop before the end of the straight, and click the button to go to your custom reset point, and it will set the sector end based on where you stopped).
Do a good 10-15 mins of practice using this technique and guaranteed, you will be starting better than 95% of the field.
Cant wait for zandvoort hahaha will be a carnage !
Haha oh god! It’s single file there for 95% of the lap…what could go wrong?!
@@Ben_LaBroca hahaha
The biggest thing is Super Formula certainly in this opening season is surviving Lap 1. I can honestly say in every SF race I've done I've seen lap 1 carnage. Survive the opening lap, and it usually ends up being a rather enjoyable race and more often than not a SR and iR gain.
These cars (and the new Hypercars) make me want to get iRacing. Yes, there are shunts but people need to get used to the cars. They're the second quickest open wheelers in the world at the moment, of course people will crash. But I love F2 cars and think F1 cars with their speed and 8 gears are a bit too much of a pain to drive over longer stints, while Super Formula slots in right inbetween.
I drove ACC for a few years now and love it for GT3 but been always interested in iRacing for open wheelers and prototypes. By the way, great cut and commentary, shame about the first incident, I think the second one is on you, didn't lift at all at 2:58, can't go full throttle towards a spinning car, imagine doing that in real life...
I can’t speak to the new prototypes yet but despite the carnage super formula is amazing. The most fun I’ve had in my years of online racing for sure.
So incredibly frustrating!
Even in lights, I had great speed at Watkins Glen, qualified 3rd
1st lap when we got on to the long straight, someone drove into the back of me trying to overtake and punted me off, my crashed ruined 3 other peoples race too 😒
Great video!!!
Ah thank you buddy - v much appreciate that! Zandvoort race from this week dropping tomorrow! 😅
@@Ben_LaBroca Yay!!
Another great video Ben!
Thanks buddy - appreciate the kind feedback!
Good race Ben! Tough first two but really good in the last one.
Thanks Bill - and big congratulations on the recent growth on your channel!
Thank you, Buddy!@@Ben_LaBroca
This is a good representation of the shortcomings in iracings license system. People farm SR to get an A licence then think they are good enough to race SF at an ir of 1k.
How is it now? I've found great racing lately and wonder if this series is worth the time. Seems most in practice lobbies can't keep their cars on the track 😅
Oh it’s looks so hard and painful… btw great editing
Thanks Daniel!
Humbert was so unlucky. Good race mate
Thanks buddy - yeah I’d have been livid if it was me! 😅🤦♂️
@@Ben_LaBroca like loose my sh1t 😆
10:22 wish you'd include voice chat.
Ha I never have it switched on - too much angst! 😅
Your comment on lap 3 about car not being up to temp, hear this a lot but without at any time looking at any telemetary which you did not appear to do, how do know if the car is not up to temp and that you are not just overdriving the corners. Two or three laps into a race If I miss an apex or understeer I always assume its my driving not a cold car or tyres.
Hey Neil - it’s a fair point! To be honest I’m going off feel at that point and knowing that I’m driving fairly consistently. I’m finding I end up setting my quickest times in SF towards the 9/10 lap period, so my conclusion is I’m not getting heat into my tyres early enough. But you’re right that I should check that! 😅
This car is very fuel sensitive, in that your times will improve significantly the lighter your car is and the tyres will not drop off, at all in a sprint; assuming No repetitive lock ups/burn outs.
The rears are very sensitive to overheating and will give a very loose balance after a few over rotations.
The lights on the left of the dash screen are also an indication of temperatures. Bottom LED lit, is signifying brake temperature is suboptimal. Top LED is nearly optimal, but not quite and all lights lit blue/white, signifies all up to optimal temps and good to go.
The reason your best times are nine to ten laps in, is most likely fuel related and not tyre.
I have been racing this in first split, and have to say, the cleanest racing in a long long time
I distinctly remember Kobayashi apologizing to someone in a Falken Tyre Sportscar race the other night 😂
another good race and commentary😃
Naturally the inflow of new drivers attracted to a cool car will always be greater than the slower progression into a skilled, respectful mindset. This problem isn’t going away. It’s why I stick to slower open wheelers because that baseline of skilled drivers already exists. These cars, much less good racecraft, unfortunately require too much skill for people to appreciate.
Super Formula is a nightmare. Im come from Formula A to Super, 8 weeks in and its not getting any better. some proper shit driving standards.
2:57, here it’s partly your fault, you had time to slow down when you saw that there was an incident ahead
Still a lot of growing pains with the Super Formula car.
Sadly so - the difficult start causes a lot of it. Cars losing it + big differences in speeds for the first few corners.
@@Ben_LaBroca I totally understand. As fun as it seems, I personally have not chosen to purchase it out of respect for the skills I need to pilot such a machine. And also to save as much money for my 2024 kart racing season. Trying to get into real life racing has certainly costed me more than expected at first. Though I hope that 2024 will be less costly than this year was.
This is why SF is so great! You never know what is going to happen
Haha it makes for decent content that’s for sure 😂😂
@@Ben_LaBroca on the other side, the probability of having a clean battle is much higher here than f4. At least from my experience
Won't get any better until racers actually give a shit about learning how to drive and race.
One of the many reasons I don't pay to race in iRacing - reckless drivers.
Ur wheel isnt supposed to be shaking so much at the end of the straights man
Ha quite so - troubleshooting that at the moment!
Tough cars to race as they are blinking fast, the series has potential to be a great but obviously let down by all the incidents.
Lmaooooooooooooo.
Most people can’t handle 1600cc FF cars due to their open wheels. What makes you think they can handle powerful ones? Furthermore, you should have realized that a car traveling very quickly was off track and was goin* to end up someplace, including in front of you driving slower. But you can’t figure this out…
SF23 isn’t terrible, it’s good racing. Your headline is ridiculous and misleading. Almost as bad as your speculation and your amateur commentary. Please just be quiet and drive.
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