‘I wouldn’t vote for any of them - Britain’s gone’ | The view from Port Talbot

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  • In the run up to July's election the Guardian video team is touring the UK looking at issues that matter to communities. The town of Port Talbot, in the Aberafan Maesteg constituency, many voters are worried about the future of the steelworks where at least 2,800 jobs are on the line.
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    We spoke to businesses, food banks and charities and political parties, all worried about the knock on effect on families who have been steelworkers for generations. We also heard voters other concerns and asked politicians what people were saying about the steelworks on the doorstep.
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  • @martinsmith251
    @martinsmith251 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    “…Having a foodbank in the centre of a town like this is in fact a political statement” how true.

    • @sgu00dir
      @sgu00dir 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes very astute and almost poetic somewhow

    • @AntSudbury-tv3we
      @AntSudbury-tv3we 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ,,,,, it's the only growth industry in Britain, what kind of people ( I that word loosely) vote to starve children, I know a word !

  • @HarithBK
    @HarithBK 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    as a Swedish steel mill worker the issue and the eventual shutdown of UK steel production is a clear as day. UK mill only produce standard steel qualities that just aren't as a whole profitable with the wages in a developed nation. there is zero investment in making unique steel qualities or shifting production to deal with the domestic market scrap using arc furnaces it is all about hammering out ever single penny they can out of the blast furnace before shutting down the place.
    the talks and work about shifting the works to arc furnaces should have started 10 years ago like it did in Sweden. the same thing that is happening in port talbot would happen in my town if it wasn't for the fact our government still owns the mines so they had to on a level step in with investment to keep our steel mills working. the investment in Unique steel qualities meant we won the contract to provide the steel for the UK navy boats. and now the investment in green steel production means arc furnaces where i live.
    the fact is a western nation can not compete with brazil and other south American nations on normal steel qualities when it comes to price the only way to survive is making better steel or inventing new tech to sell to said nations. (should mention nobody trusts Chinese steel so most of there production ends up in domestic use rather than international trade)

    • @coffeebuzzz
      @coffeebuzzz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If they were aiming for hydrogen based steel made with the power from wind turbines, towns like these would prosper. Doing things the same way as a century ago is destined for failure, doesn't matter if it's privately owned or nationalised.
      People need to stop voting for politicians based on slogans and start looking for leaders with vision.

    • @SkeletonDrums1
      @SkeletonDrums1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thats really insightful, thank for this explanation. I've long known that the deindustrialisation of our nation is a terrible thing for communities. But getting a Government with a plan for encouraging new investments and technologies to bring the UKs industry up to date is essential.

    • @jameswatson5807
      @jameswatson5807 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Trumps hotels are built using Chinese steel.

  • @callu947
    @callu947 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +204

    “I want someone who’s going to help us- Rishi Sunak” love, he is not the man to help you 😂

    • @RJTheQuizzer
      @RJTheQuizzer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      I live in Port Talbot, the older generation plan to vote Conservative, shocking

    • @callu947
      @callu947 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@RJTheQuizzer I just don’t understand why

    • @RJTheQuizzer
      @RJTheQuizzer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@callu947 Many English nationalists have moved to Port Talbot, especially over 50's, we know they'll boost the Conservative vote

    • @callu947
      @callu947 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RJTheQuizzer planters do as planters do

    • @gdgyhgrd
      @gdgyhgrd 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@RJTheQuizzerI've just checked the ONS figures and as of the 2021 census, around 6% of Neath Port Talbot are English.
      Meanwhile, you're watching a video of a Welsh woman who likes Rishi Sunak.

  • @chrisspencer6502
    @chrisspencer6502 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +138

    Yeah, trust a foreign company to
    1 make the local business un profitable
    2 ship the production line to a low wage low regulation country
    3 use the local business as a shell to import the new cheaper product

    • @juliepaul6344
      @juliepaul6344 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

    • @placemats1598
      @placemats1598 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Steel should be nationalised,run for the country,run for the workers,not run for a foreign country to take the profits and shut down

    • @williamho5636
      @williamho5636 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Remember what Margaret Thatcher sold and closed. Sold the manufacturing industry….steel plants, water , gas and electricity companies etc
      Closed down the coal mines.
      She even sold the Telecom manufacturing industry.
      Stop blaming other overseas companies.
      Start by blaming what the UK government has done

    • @AdrianMcDaid
      @AdrianMcDaid 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@placemats1598and if it keeps loosing money should the tax payer have to keep paying for it ?

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@placemats1598 I dont remember communism being a Brexit benefit

  • @purplerings1969
    @purplerings1969 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    If you don't vote, then you have no right to moan about what others have voted for.

    • @boomshanka8743
      @boomshanka8743 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I don't agree - democracy means nothing if we don't respect the right to abstain from it. People deserve better than choosing the least worst option.

    • @Pemmont107
      @Pemmont107 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@boomshanka8743 That may be true, but then every time in history where democracy failed (30's Italy and Germany, modern day Russia and Belarus, for example), there were too many people who simply abstained and let it happen.
      Democracy is so fragile. To take it for granted is to leave it and yourself vulnerable.

    • @martinradcliffe4798
      @martinradcliffe4798 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@Pemmont107 Given our absurd voting system, whether I vote or abstain is not going to have the slightest effect on the outcome. The right to abstain is a wholly legitimate political stance.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@boomshanka8743 by not choosing the least worst they let the worst win last time tho. how did that help?

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@martinradcliffe4798 and that gave us a huge tory majority last time. how did that work out for you?

  • @samuelculper4231
    @samuelculper4231 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    As an American this report was a breath of fresh air. As bad as politics may be elsewhere in the world, American politics is off the charts insane.

    • @karimtabrizi376
      @karimtabrizi376 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes i think how on hell did trump get elected now biden who is past it. Whole system is inept

    • @-i1007
      @-i1007 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you could put on the plaid’s words and all of bidens words and have an 80% overlap

    • @yorkshirehousewife784
      @yorkshirehousewife784 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Well we’re doing our damndest to stop our country ever getting like America.

    • @samuelculper4231
      @samuelculper4231 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yorkshirehousewife784 it’s too late. From what I’ve seen it appears you are on an irreversible course. Unfettered corporate capitalism was the final nail in our casket. Competition is so severely reduced, you can hardly call them markets. Old sluggish companies kept afloat while innovation is stagnant. As rightly concerned as I am about climate change, or at least we can call it man’s environmental footprint - I am surprised I never hear the political right make the reasonable argument that there are more urgent matters at hand regarding imminent confrontation between the West and the new Axis of evil (Russia, China, Iran). The vibe is that while the West signs off on well meaning documents to save our world, we are losing the immediate and thus long term competitive edge to China.

    • @valuetraveler2026
      @valuetraveler2026 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      US decline is affecting other countries too

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    Ironic that the Iron Lady wrecked our Steel Industry.

    • @Danxph
      @Danxph 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      She wrecked the country,

    • @stephfoxwell4620
      @stephfoxwell4620 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@Danxph Indeed. Completely and utterly.

    • @LuisCarruthers
      @LuisCarruthers วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you support Net Zero you must be delighted by that.

    • @stephfoxwell4620
      @stephfoxwell4620 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LuisCarruthers I don't.
      Net Zero is bankrupting us.

    • @stephfoxwell4620
      @stephfoxwell4620 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LuisCarruthers I don't. Net Zero is bankrupting us.

  • @dannyfeller7034
    @dannyfeller7034 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    We need nationalisation of so much of the UK industry and utilities.

    • @user-bu9ib7ym8z
      @user-bu9ib7ym8z 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      its 2024 not 1824

  • @rodioleary
    @rodioleary 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

    I've watched a good few of these Guardian videos from these proud but struggling towns. Quite disheartening to see the resignation on people's faces. But amazing to highlight the local heroes trying to hold the community together. The slow death of these towns feels like the result of decades of politicians kicking the can down the road on future jobs / new economy transition. Why deal with an issue now when you can ignore it til the next election. Not hard to see why people then move to more extreme parties. Similar story across the world.

    • @CarnaghSidhe
      @CarnaghSidhe 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      All the driving talent amongst the young heads to London because a lot of reasons. One reason I don't see discussed much is the often casual disregard for the value of it's young people in the kind of towns you're talking about. The same young people are valued in London.
      These towns can blame 101 reasons, but in each case, they lost their best and their brightest to London, and they've yet to put much thought into that. Instead you'll hear lots of blather about immigrants -- who are also welcome in London. In fact many of the people who are little valued in the towns you describe, are welcome in London.
      I grew up in one of these kinds of towns. Some 25 years ago I moved to London to become a graphic designer and programmer. Today I live in Spain -- now the region of Spain I live in goes to great efforts to retain its young people. It puts on gigs and events for them. It supports young businesses, and overall it promotes a good attitude towards the young. They are valued. The region of Spain I live in understands that if it loses all its talent, it's dead. It works hard to retain its talent and attract new talent.
      The towns that are currently suffering, need to stop driving their most precious talent away and look at what actually makes a region prosper. Instead they bemoan the past and put little real thought into the future.
      Oh, and they're not stingy about putting up new housing in Spain, so there's plenty of cheap housing for the young.
      The UK needs to let go of the bitterness it has wrapped itself in, and put some adult thought into the future it wants and how best to go about getting it. Frankly, people need to stop whinging about the sky falling in and think a little about actually doing something.

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But u think these people have unrealistic expectations. China can produce steel a lot cheaper. No company is going to save it and after thatcher the government is unlikely to save it.

    • @AngelaVlahos
      @AngelaVlahos 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      work got sent overseas. be willing to travel.

    • @count69
      @count69 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No - similar story across WESTERN nations. Vote Labour for an increase to the pace.

    • @aremedyfrosty
      @aremedyfrosty 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've watched 5 guardian videos in a row and i've not heard one person say they are voting reform. The guardian doing their very best to selectively edit out anyone who dares say they are voting reform.

  • @graemeedgar7654
    @graemeedgar7654 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'm from Consett Co Durham, in the 80's the Torries closed the steel works, a profitable works, this decimated the town to this day, I was from a line of Iron and Steel men since the 1800 hundreds, the first generation to leave, left school to no work in the Town, so I joined the Army and left the North East in 86, never moved back, now we have emigrated to the Rep of Ireland, couldn't take anymore in the UK. My advice, get out if you can.

  • @beltingtokra
    @beltingtokra 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    Rishi Sunak - alright?
    Has she has a knock to the head?

    • @RJTheQuizzer
      @RJTheQuizzer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I live in Port Talbot, the older generation plan to vote Conservative, shocking

    • @SevenEllen
      @SevenEllen 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RJTheQuizzer JAW-dropping. Have they learned NOTHING from these past 16 years???

    • @alfonsohorcajada4399
      @alfonsohorcajada4399 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I know. I fell off the chair when she said that.😅

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RJTheQuizzer because pensioners have been the most insulated from tory policies. or so they think.

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Closing the steel works will be devastating for the whole of South Wales!

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah but china makes steel cheaper. It’s the same as coal in the 1980s. They live in the past.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Steel isn't very environmentally friendly.

    • @Paul_C
      @Paul_C 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Isn't that Tata steel? Where Sunak has part of his money in?

  • @e4t662
    @e4t662 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    Hmm, reminds me of the rust belt in the US.

    • @briangriffiths1285
      @briangriffiths1285 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Nothing like the rust belt in the US. Port Talbot is not miles from anywhere, it is next door to Swansea which has fast rail connections to Cardiff, Bristol and London. Both Cardiff and Bristol have plenty of job opportunities and Port Talbot is likely to get plenty of jobs from the off shore wind industry. The sea bed conditions require floating wind technology to be developed and used. There is likely 30 to 50 GW that can be exploited, more if the work in Irish waters gets shared.

    • @EdwardSinclair
      @EdwardSinclair 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@briangriffiths1285 Yes, practical solutions are much better than the doom and gloom. Although, why does it take so long to implement such solutions? Who or what is causing this delay? People just want a fair chance at a job so they can live with dignity and feed their families...

    • @briangriffiths1285
      @briangriffiths1285 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EdwardSinclair I think it is a mindset that jobs exist for life in these old industries of steel and coal. Some guys may be too old to retrain into physical jobs and that will be a real shame but if the Unions and Tata get their heads together with the govt agencies that support training and transition, there should be jobs for all. Certainly the Grid want electrical engineers, we need thousands of heat pump installers, I cannot believe that these steel men that have worked with dangerous materials cannot be retrained? The history of Wales has been sad when the pits closed in the 80s the men didn’t find work easily and the communities in the Valleys were left in relative poverty. They need to kick that and look forward to change.

    • @samuelculper4231
      @samuelculper4231 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@briangriffiths1285 Valid point. This wasn’t addressed in the segment. My guess is the skilled workers are coming from elsewhere.

    • @briangriffiths1285
      @briangriffiths1285 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samuelculper4231 There is a shortage of skilled folks in the heating industry in the UK and also the power distribution industry. Plenty of retirees in both sectors in the next few years. I cannot stress enough that the UK intends to install 600,000 heat pumps a year by 2027 which is nowhere enough to have an impact on climate change, we need to install 1.4 million a year. The plumbers of today aren't skilled to do that and it also requires a serious no. of electricians too. Both trades could assimilate 250,000 workers each. But the jobs will not all be in South Wales. That is the rub. South Wales is generally seen as a low wage low cost place to live and moving to wealthier areas is a real challenge. It might be possible to manage by working rather longer hours 4 days a week or even 3 days a week to combine a home in S Wales and continuing to work. Folks need to think outside the box. Oh and yes, I have a Welsh name but born in England!

  • @larynOneka8080
    @larynOneka8080 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Let's vote for people who only care about major corporations and billionaires and see what happens. Lol. This is what happens.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brits voted for Brexit to cut themselves off from Globalist capitalists . You should be happy

  • @brettbrown9261
    @brettbrown9261 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Welcome to the communities of the closed coal mining towns and villages...

  • @NotALot-xm6gz
    @NotALot-xm6gz 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    U.K. Steel? That ship sailed to India decades ago?

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      industry sold there and their people shipped in here

    • @ooc4436
      @ooc4436 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They have been shipping iron ore out of Afghanistan through Pakistan into India, where they process it without any labour laws or quality control and re-absorb the finished product into the UK through shell companies. This rabbit hole is way deeper.

    • @kc4276
      @kc4276 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ooc4436 India has labour laws. In fact, India has a much more robust left-wing ecosystem than the UK. Furthermore, Indian steel is of extremely high quality - which is something that you would know if you knew anything about the steel industry.
      But of course how would Little Britain (and Brexiteers) ever know what’s going on in the rest of the world in 2024? There’s a reason why you’re not a competitive (or serious) country anymore, unlike your American and Australian cousins. You’re pretty much in the same boat as Canada, with your prime well in the past and no future to look forward to on your miserable little island.

  • @paramotorhead
    @paramotorhead 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    If only we were aligned with a trading block that gives redevelopment grants to towns suffering like this…..🤦‍♂️

    • @nowherepeople3431
      @nowherepeople3431 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If only that trading block wasn’t intent on forcibly inflicting demographic on our communities we might not have left.

    • @eagle_rb_mmoomin_418
      @eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@nowherepeople3431been listening to Forage too much.....
      The countries population is aging, living longer, more older people not working and less kids are being born....That means there is an enormous pension problem occuring now and worsening in the future. Someone has to be in work to supports the current old with NI contributions, taxes etc. To get growth in the economy you need people working.
      The last 14 years has seen productivity in the bin, decline in services, 100s of billions of pounds wiped off the economy and exports to the countries largest customer dropping.......yet that's all the foreigners fault....
      The current government has broken this country. The immigrants are a convenient scapegoat for a total failure in economic policy.

    • @paramotorhead
      @paramotorhead 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@nowherepeople3431 that sentence is just word salad to me. By inflicting demographic, do you mean inflicting immigrants?

    • @nowherepeople3431
      @nowherepeople3431 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@paramotorhead yes, you understand it perfectly well. You also know that if I am not extremely delicate with how I phrase things the YT platform will simply remove or make invisible my comment. I presume that’s something you would support no?

  • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
    @MaximilianvonPinneberg 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Yet you voted for the demise of your twin in 2016.

  • @richardbarton2709
    @richardbarton2709 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I see the Tories are helping the steel workers NOT.

    • @jablot5054
      @jablot5054 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why should they ? It's up to the people to invest in their own futures.

    • @TheVintageApplianceEmporium
      @TheVintageApplianceEmporium 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And yet the Conservative Government has pledged £500million to help with transition. What has Welsh Labour done? NOTHING!

    • @paramotorhead
      @paramotorhead 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jablot5054 they do invest in their own future by grafting for the company, why else do you work for a company FFS. The company is supposed to pay that back by reinvestment.

    • @timowagner1329
      @timowagner1329 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jablot5054 why are people homeless? Just buy a house lol

  • @nf5416
    @nf5416 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    maybe they shouldnt have voted brexit , tory , ukip etc

  • @joeduffy3309
    @joeduffy3309 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You voted for brexit, you deserve what you get, you were warned and called it project fear. Ignorance is not an excuse

    • @valuetraveler2026
      @valuetraveler2026 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      as if that is the only reason

    • @AntSudbury-tv3we
      @AntSudbury-tv3we 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stupidity is,,,sorry meant gullibility

    • @nowherepeople3431
      @nowherepeople3431 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Desperate cope. Most Tories didn’t want Brexit including Cameron who gave us the referendum.

  • @sharadkorgaonkar5505
    @sharadkorgaonkar5505 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    It is tragic to see the suffering of these people. But is there a solution to the economic woes of this country? All the countries are subject to the laws of the capitalist economics . Why the steel industry, or for that matter any other manufacturing industry, is not viable in the UK?
    The politicians would not answer these questions honestly. No government has a magic wand to solve these problems. Yet people are hoodwinked into thinking that only with the change of government things will be better. Politicians are selling false dreams to the public.
    The policies of the Tories was not to touch the big money at the expense of the running down of the NHS and the other welfare needs of the society. The labour party might tinker here and there, but in that case they risk the flight of capital. There are no solutions to these problems within the Capitalism.

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      There is no solution. The UK is dying. This country was built on the back of an empire that no longer exists.
      Being members of the EU papered over the cracks for a while, but the decline was only slowed.
      We cannot compete globally, not in terms of resources, or industry, militarily, education or innovation.
      And the AI apocalypse is about to wipe us out technologically.
      If it’s any consolation, Europe is going the same way, hence the resurgence of the far right.

    • @Avengerie
      @Avengerie 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      TINA. There is no alternative. All it is is managed decline and the “rise of the rest”. Ricardian law of comparative advantage says you should focus on what you do most efficiently (i.e. cheaper), and stop doing everything else. In a globalized world it is impossible to “bring back” the steel industry when the Indians and the Chinese can do it for a fraction of the cost. The next question to people who say it should be “would you be willing to pay 2-3 times the price for iron gates, construction rebar etc to support the local industry? The honest answer is going to be “no”.

  • @CatherineDover
    @CatherineDover 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Tories and ANY party that resembles should be banned. The coal industry, steel industry, water companies, Rail industry, all public services should be nationalized and the private sector fined and then kicked out of the country. What is left of it.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The UK needs to look at North Korea to find ideas for the future

    • @stevenhenry5267
      @stevenhenry5267 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No coal

    • @jameswatson5807
      @jameswatson5807 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nationalized did not work.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jameswatson5807 Privatization does not work either , the UK is bolloxed

  • @richardmurphy9006
    @richardmurphy9006 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    When politicians are filmed opening foodbanks all smiles your country is on the wrong road

  • @user-rv6cm4hv4x
    @user-rv6cm4hv4x 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    The factory owners chose to invest in Sweden, not the UK.
    What's the difference between a Land-rover made in India compared with one made in the UK?
    UK has no trade relationship, and without London, it's a poor country. Ta-da!

  • @LysanderLH
    @LysanderLH 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    The Steel workers who voted by a majority for BREXIT? Those Steel workers?

    • @Richie3264
      @Richie3264 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, those ones who, like most working class people, have been betrayed by a Blairite elite and are doing what they can

    • @hazelwray4184
      @hazelwray4184 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Germany, France, Italy, etc, don't face these issues. That explains the success of far-right parties the other day.

    • @RW-nr6bh
      @RW-nr6bh 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Welsh nationalists like to pretend it was English retirees, but in truth it was the working class 'salt of earth' Welsh people of the Valleys that did it.

    • @davidpryle3935
      @davidpryle3935 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      What’s Brexit got to do with it ? The Redcar steelworks closed in 2015 when Britain was a member of the European Union.

    • @CuteTartanCat
      @CuteTartanCat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      This is a truly disgusting reply. You have been confronted with a situation in which thousands of working class lives are about to be thrown into peril due to the closing of industry. And your first instinct is to condemn these people for bringing it upon themselves because they were disenchanted with an institution which did absolutely nothing for them. You people don’t understand why you’re hated.

  • @bengreenbank
    @bengreenbank 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Was not expecting to see a Morbid Angel t shirt in this. Very based.

  • @ommanipadmehung3014
    @ommanipadmehung3014 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    brexit and the conservative party have driven this country off a cliff at full speed.

  • @kev643
    @kev643 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At least the people of Northern Ireland have the option of voting for a United Ireland and re-joining the EU.

  • @scallamander4899
    @scallamander4899 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    National governments in every country serve the international capitalist class. Never forget it.

    • @lewisbaitup6352
      @lewisbaitup6352 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, all the governments of the world's foundations are all built on domination over those who it exploits.

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Even china and North Korea?

    • @lewisbaitup6352
      @lewisbaitup6352 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kb4903 kim jung un and xi jingping don't look proletarian to me, they both look like bureaucrats that are way above the people who they dominate over, not to forget about china's billionaires.

    • @robertduluth8994
      @robertduluth8994 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kb4903china does have capitalism they say so after deng

    • @scallamander4899
      @scallamander4899 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kb4903 Yes, North Korea is the least integrated into the world system, but still integrated.

  • @trytwicelikemice3190
    @trytwicelikemice3190 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Its tragic how hapless the Greens look. This election is crying out for a competent, serious Green party with a strong energy/industrial policy, openness to closer economic ties with the EU and a moral stance on Israel/Gaza. Instead we seem to have a bunch of useless old crusties. Such a shame.

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Competent serious greens is an oxymoron

    • @dominicchallis2928
      @dominicchallis2928 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Watch Carla Denyer in the debates.

  • @Republic_Unbowed
    @Republic_Unbowed 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Similar situation got here in my city in India jamalpur but its not the steel works its the railway work

  • @existentialvoid
    @existentialvoid 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Labour will be under major pressure to make drastic changes for rural UK - in 5 years time these people will vote for Reform if Labour fails.

  • @_yonas
    @_yonas 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    1:48 As a German, I could say the same about "my" county. The amount of food banks which have opened over the last few decades is concerning to say the least. We need radical leftist change. Conservatives had their grip on power for too long, and we have now seen where it leads us. The UK has undergone a tremendous economic downturn like no other European country over the last 10 years or so thanks to the Tories. Please vote in an actual leftist party, and not Labour.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You must be East German , no food banks required back then . Your govt took care of you

    • @matthewprince9705
      @matthewprince9705 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What leftist parties does the UK have?

    • @_yonas
      @_yonas 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@matthewprince9705 They should probably vote for (independent) socialist or communist parties, or, if people are not comfortable with that: Greens. I know the Greens aren't really that left, given their positions on capitalism, but I think they would still push the needle in the right direction.

    • @dominicchallis2928
      @dominicchallis2928 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@_yonasThe Greens recognise the need to effect greater environmental responsibility and social progress by using the framework of capitalism for redistributive purposes and proper funding of social and environmental services. I’d argue that they’re quite left wing even if falling short of overturning capitalism in its entirety.

    • @SvenSkottke
      @SvenSkottke 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We don't have any credible leftists in Germany, the most popular ones are just Kremlin agents from the party that built the Berlin wall and shot those trying to be with their families. Apparently, these people's ideas are resonating with some voters, but not as many as the far-right. And the SPD and Linke have also massively declined in popularity, don't think we'll see them back in power for a while.
      Realistically, the CDU will win the next election and then lose credibility like the Ampel have. Then, one of Putin's parties will win, end elections and that regime will enslave and brainwash us, just like in Belarus or occupied Ukraine. There'll be no tolerance of anything, except state sanctioned violence, hate and ignorance.
      The sad part is that we will do this to ourselves, by popular demand.

  • @noname-ps2mm
    @noname-ps2mm 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    the councillor just sounded like Farage - "tories lost" "labour in Government" "need to keep Labour in Check"

    • @lewisbaitup6352
      @lewisbaitup6352 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You mean the leader of Plaid Cymru lol? Also hes definitley different from farage, he attacked farage alot in the debates.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lewisbaitup6352 Did he attack Farage for bringing him Sovereignty , Freedom, Sunny Uplands , Global Briatain Brexit ?

    • @lewisbaitup6352
      @lewisbaitup6352 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@sarahann530 brexit was one line of attack yes, him leading a hate movement was also another line.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lewisbaitup6352 So Plaid Cymru did not want Brexit going against the majority of Welsh voters

    • @lewisbaitup6352
      @lewisbaitup6352 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@sarahann530 yes they were remainers during the referendum, this conversation is honestly boring.

  • @europainvicta3907
    @europainvicta3907 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It’s like Ceaușescu’s Romania - with better cars. Obviously Romania is more prosperous now. I’ve got an idea - why don’t you leave the EU That will sort it all out. 😂😂

    • @hazelwray4184
      @hazelwray4184 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Germany, France, Italy etc, aren't facing these issues right? - hence the success of the far-right just the other day.

    • @valuetraveler2026
      @valuetraveler2026 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Even the poorest parts of Romania are not as hopeless as places like this. The woman are still thin and the people chill

  • @kristiankruse3964
    @kristiankruse3964 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    How did the town vote on Brexit?

    • @yusufk7975
      @yusufk7975 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      Essentially these are the Turkeys that voted for Christmas.

    • @cal5566
      @cal5566 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Not fair to say, the industries were built long before the EU. There's a lot more moving parts to it than just in the EU or not.

    • @anglodoomer5995
      @anglodoomer5995 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@yusufk7975are you aware that deindustrialisation was happening before Brexit

    • @Sam_Green____4114
      @Sam_Green____4114 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Brexit had nothing to with it !

    • @leonblittle226
      @leonblittle226 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@yusufk7975 That level of arrogance is exactly how brexit was a win, and you learnt nothing

  • @stefanosbrilakis5065
    @stefanosbrilakis5065 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Most people get it ,Starmer and Sunak are only servants of the establishment.

  • @sevendaughters
    @sevendaughters 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    "Who is fighting for the steelworkers in this election?" absolutely no one, next question.

    • @siskinedge
      @siskinedge 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Labour have a 2.5Bn commitment to investment in green steel so we can start producing virgin steel again in their manifesto.
      This country needs to get over the cheems mindset of only seeing potholes as viable when labour have an asian tiger type growth plan.

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What do they want the government to do? Use public money to prop up an expensive system that china makes cheaper?

  • @user-cs1dt2xw4c
    @user-cs1dt2xw4c 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He's spot on these politicians are all the same . Things are just getting worse .

  • @gethinj
    @gethinj 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Port Talbot Steel works raises over twenty billion a year in VAT to the English government. If we had an Independent Wales twenty billion a year would stay in Port Talbot.

  • @robeagleR
    @robeagleR 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    nationalise the steel industry!

    • @nowherepeople3431
      @nowherepeople3431 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But remove the national borders. Renationalise but without the nasty nation bit pls.

  • @banditalley9592
    @banditalley9592 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    You voted for Brexit and trusted Johnson. Reap what you sow.

  • @marcchrys
    @marcchrys 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The biggest issue is...(drum roll)...potholes! 😅😢

  • @Republic_Unbowed
    @Republic_Unbowed 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Looks like thacher has joined the steel workers😂

    • @Sam_Green____4114
      @Sam_Green____4114 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You cannot even spell ThaTCher for Christ's sake !

    • @tom_demarco
      @tom_demarco 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Sam_Green____4114 What a dumb thing to get mad at

    • @Sam_Green____4114
      @Sam_Green____4114 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tom_demarco If he can't get that right what can he get right !?

  • @lazylad8544
    @lazylad8544 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So what are they going to do with the land where the steel works is. Is there money for regeneration or is it another massive housing estate. Port Talbot needs a plan.

  • @peteblueeyes
    @peteblueeyes 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    love the welsh accents

  • @Kellyanne32
    @Kellyanne32 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Why wasn’t there a major focus in these segment about how this area voted to leave the European union (brexit) and how Brexit has had a devastating impact on the steel industry?

    • @josephkolodziejski6882
      @josephkolodziejski6882 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because it's very simple, they were lied to by a slogan on the side of a bus.

    • @lewisbaitup6352
      @lewisbaitup6352 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This wouldve happened even if we stayed in the EU, the EU isn't really a pro worker institution.

    • @andrew300169
      @andrew300169 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@lewisbaitup6352The EU is increasing tariffs and raising the regulations on those imports coming from outside the EU, such as the UK

    • @lewisbaitup6352
      @lewisbaitup6352 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@andrew300169 well like i said, they're not pro worker. It's just an imperial core club that extracts wealth from the ones who need it most, it's not something we should be a part of but we left it to compete in the same game as it, not to be better than it.

    • @davidpryle3935
      @davidpryle3935 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Redcar steelworks closed in 2015 when Britain was a member of the European Union 🤔

  • @cultureclique2173
    @cultureclique2173 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I dont understand how this country with these people in it conquered the world! An enigma to me.

    • @NosyFella
      @NosyFella 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It was a handful of office buildings in london that conquered the world. These people have nothing to do with it.

    • @ab-ym3bf
      @ab-ym3bf 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      they didn´t. Their ancestor conquered parts of the world.

  • @paulprosser4108
    @paulprosser4108 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you cant be bothered to vote then shut up and stop moaning.

  • @colinobrien3806
    @colinobrien3806 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "our roads are in pieces our rail is in pieces our buses and our nhs is in pieces " god listening to that i feel like throwing myself into the thames .. and im irish lol

  • @howtoappearincompletely9739
    @howtoappearincompletely9739 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was just depressing.

  • @waylingtons
    @waylingtons 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man this country is seriously depressing.

  • @willienelsongonzalez4609
    @willienelsongonzalez4609 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nobody. The government weren’t interested in saving the steel industry, it’s dying and sadly so will towns that where those industries once thrived. The current government simply do not care.

  • @connoryhhhfgbvlk
    @connoryhhhfgbvlk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Revolution is needed

    • @alankirkby465
      @alankirkby465 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @connoryhhhfgvlk Interesting concept.

  • @blazerdazer1318
    @blazerdazer1318 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m from wales uk is a basket case country

  • @SevenEllen
    @SevenEllen 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This feels like what happened in the 80s with Thatcher closing the coal mines.

  • @matthewprince9705
    @matthewprince9705 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just like what the workers in the 1970s were striking about... they saw this coming. History is repeating again 😢

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Out dated and poor industry not being floated by the tax payer as it’s cheaper to import?

  • @celticlofts
    @celticlofts วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they don't vote then they don't get to complain, it's as simple as that.

  • @argh6666
    @argh6666 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Most of these mugs will vote for farage…hopeless!

    • @Bouncer_RH06
      @Bouncer_RH06 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not hopeless, good!

  • @thedon8772
    @thedon8772 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    You all voted for Brexit, you got what you wanted and now complaining about who's going to support British steel, I know!!! Go and ask Farage.

    • @leonblittle226
      @leonblittle226 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      We voted for it and absolutely NOBODY in government would make it happen correctly after the instruction was made. You still think this is a functional democracy ?
      The fact it lives on in your brain as pure salt was reason enough to vote brexit and keep on doing it.

    • @thedon8772
      @thedon8772 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@leonblittle226 a Brexit cultist unable to accept that you were conned.

    • @kumstuke
      @kumstuke 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@leonblittle226how does correct Brexit look like?

    • @twistedsister2568
      @twistedsister2568 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@leonblittle226 we weren’t conned and I’d vote for it again. The government failed to implement the will of the people.

    • @sharonharris9782
      @sharonharris9782 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@leonblittle226unfortunately, you weren't lied to. You just didn't do your research. You were the mark. Congratulations on being conned. Oh, and by the way there was no way to do Brexit correctly, as you put it.

  • @Mushroom3D
    @Mushroom3D 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Morbid Angel shirt made me feel old 😂

  • @pip1723
    @pip1723 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ask nigel how brexit is going...

  • @glendurrant6023
    @glendurrant6023 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Cue guardian byline - “something is terrible, but I have hope”. No it’s cope.

  • @simonfunwithtrains1572
    @simonfunwithtrains1572 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not the lack of steelworks that's the issue it's the lack of forward thinking by past government always doing the immediate easy crowd pleasing stuff, instead of planning for the future. A future that perhaps didn't have a steelworks in it but had something that had replaced it of equal value.

  • @russellg5022
    @russellg5022 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    poor guy was made redundant 42 years ago. Now he's in politics. Reading between the lines: He was made redundant 42 years ago and hasn't had a real job since. 2:33

  • @alcapone6796
    @alcapone6796 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Weren't the TATAs building a giga factory in UK? Can they not absorb some people from Port Talbot?

  • @andrewsmith-lt3sx
    @andrewsmith-lt3sx 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We sell most of your steel to the EU and used to have tariff free access to the single market, but the people of Port Talbot voted to leave, thereby making their steel less competitive.
    The unions also resisted attempts to install a new, less carbon intensive blast furnace, on the grounds that it would lead to job losses. The end result is that Port Talbot steel became even less competitive.
    The people of Port Talbot need to realize that being reliant on the steel industry is foolish. The tide of technological change over time is always for primary and secondary sector producers to use less labor as they adopt labor saving technologies. These people need to upskill and move to the tertiary sector. They are the equivalent of farm workers in the early 20th century complaining about mechanization.

  • @robeagleR
    @robeagleR 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you are in Wales, Vote Plaid Cymru! If you are in Scotland Vote SNP! , There needs to be accountability!

    • @howtoappearincompletely9739
      @howtoappearincompletely9739 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As much as I'm looking forward to Labour supplanting the Conservatives in Westminster, Wales will continue to be disregarded and taken for granted until its people get their act together and return as strong a Plaid Cymru representation as Scotland does its SNP representation.

  • @Eggplantation-lh4yc
    @Eggplantation-lh4yc 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Geezer finally twigged Farage is quids in while he is skint. Would be funny except its not.

  • @magnusb879
    @magnusb879 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think england will be the next Poland in the coming 20 years, poor and hopeless. But Poland is turning around and becoming a powerhouse,,

  • @MegaTightMike
    @MegaTightMike 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, someone has finally come to Wales.

  • @DarylBaines
    @DarylBaines 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I hate this expression "food bank". It's a typical way to distract from a problem by using language - very Orwellian. We should call them as they are "soup kitchens".

    • @annestjohn4017
      @annestjohn4017 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Why exactly? They are two very different models. Soup kitchens provide a fresh prepared meal and users return on a regular basis. Food banks are essentially warehouses for dry goods, a stop gap service where users are vetted

    • @DarylBaines
      @DarylBaines 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@annestjohn4017 "Food bank" vs "soup kitchen" is like "migrant" vs "refugee", it's an attempt to manipulate language to make things acceptable to the public, when they should be outraged.

    • @howtoappearincompletely9739
      @howtoappearincompletely9739 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DarylBaines "Food bank" and "soup kitchen" are about equally pitiable in connotation.

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Blessed are the steelmakers

    • @jimisi7424
      @jimisi7424 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But what about the cheesemakers 😂

  • @johndorney7812
    @johndorney7812 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So much pessimism these days.

  • @russiandrivers9986
    @russiandrivers9986 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    They voted for Brexit so let them enjoy it

  • @ryan-tabar
    @ryan-tabar 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Engineering is dieing in this country

    • @valuetraveler2026
      @valuetraveler2026 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It can be reinvigorated but there is no vision

  • @notquiteatory971
    @notquiteatory971 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “The game’s gone”

  • @valuetraveler2026
    @valuetraveler2026 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why empires never come back. You create willing believers the top rots and people so used to looking up lack the wherewithal to do the hard bit - creating new systems. Modern English men are inferior compared to the greats who fought in the world wars (ironically to hasten their demise). The Fourth Turning is a very instructive read on generational cycles.

  • @JaywalkingTheWorld
    @JaywalkingTheWorld 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    More footage looking up people's noses.

  • @JackTenrec-qk4zp
    @JackTenrec-qk4zp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    learn to code BRO!!

  • @yorkshirehousewife784
    @yorkshirehousewife784 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What’s gone wrong with UK steel.
    Foreign Corporate entity, purchases a company,
    Feeds a ton of money and assets to corporate management in hugely inflated salaries, bonuses, shares and dividends,
    learns how to do something properly, for the interest of moving said business to foreign lands to pay foreign workers poorly for low expenditures and high turnover. For a while these corporate executives, cream as much money from our governments claiming they can’t make the business profitable (whilst feeding shareholders and corporate execs and upper management huge benefits in kind and all the above.
    When this money stops the executives close businesses.
    BTW for the lady who wanted help from the conservatives… they’ve been in power for the last 14 years and completely destroyed our public services whilst paying for corporate greed.
    And let’s not forget the funding for multi billionaire’s businesses ( wifey’s Daddy’s).
    Politicians are owned by very wealthy people who run corporations that have an agenda.
    No Man can serve two masters!

  • @user-fe1gb9uc1t
    @user-fe1gb9uc1t 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    when automisation and new technologies completely takes over steel production will these folk still insist on not retraining and their local councils insists on not trying to capture new investments and attract new industry? yes it was your heritage, but times change. coal mines close and as they're on their way out people lose jobs. it's your local councillors that you need to champion your local issues not national government.

    • @ChartreuseDan
      @ChartreuseDan 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A council can beggar itself trying to court investment from conglomerates with literally an entire world of better options, while a national government can create conditions that actually incentivise and promote development and thereby wealth creation (ie. Jobs) with pragmatic diplomacy, regulatory reform, temporary tax incentives, and they could even grow some 'stuff' and actually invest in new nationalised industries. Is someone going to with a straight face claim that the civil service, one of the largest employers in the UK, can't find some gaps in the market that the UK could generate or retain some revenue by creating some industries to pioneer or at least localize production of? Like they don't know even a failed industry would be better for the economy than mass-unemployment and economic inactivity.
      All around the British isles are still-untapped resources that aren't the single most profitable investment conceivable and so the fiduciarily responsible free-market ignores them, and nationalising the development sounds too much like government spending 🤚😮✋so it just sits there while jobs in existing industries shrink away everyday to offshoring, obsolescence, or automation. Did you know for the price of a few high-powered electrical cables the west coast of Scotland could be almost completely energy independent?
      "Oh, but what would become of the oil industry!?" Like a polymers industry or something couldn't be built up instead of continuing to literally burn wealth.
      Tldr: imo ultimately the UK has enough resources, access to credit, available and willing labour, and even sov'rinity 🤢 to fix it all but the governments we keep getting seem to think that sounds too much like hard work and might upset their wealthiest donors

  • @violinstar5948
    @violinstar5948 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    REFORM 🇬🇧 💪🏻

    • @mesamies123
      @mesamies123 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      🗣 GREEN! 🇬🇧🏳️‍🌈🇺🇲😉

    • @rice4550
      @rice4550 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      How is reform going to bring back steel deporting migrants who help drive the economy and prevent demographic collapse doesn’t seem like a working plan

    • @YolandaHalfAlmonde
      @YolandaHalfAlmonde 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh look its a brainwashed fascist sheeo that thinks voting for abusive upper class will help solve problems they themselves have created. Nice try, little sheeple

    • @joeduffy3309
      @joeduffy3309 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      führage got the UK into this mess, stop shilling, these people are suffering because of him

    • @primafacie6442
      @primafacie6442 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rice4550ahhh yes of course all those Hand Car Washers and Deliveroo Drivers are really boosting our GDP/capita. 🙄

  • @alundavies1016
    @alundavies1016 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can understand the despair. The only party that will do anything to help the people left behind are Labour.

    • @nowherepeople3431
      @nowherepeople3431 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Labour cares for all the world’s poor. They can’t be any more specific than that.

    • @alundavies1016
      @alundavies1016 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nowherepeople3431 Labour are looking to go back to their previous overseas aid budget of 0.7% GDP when there is sufficient money to do that. Current government spending is 45% of GDP, so 70 times that of overseas aid. So your statement is wrong.

    • @nowherepeople3431
      @nowherepeople3431 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alundavies1016 I’m not talking about overseas aid. I’m talking about enabling everyone from overseas to access our over stretched welfare state and bottomed out labour market.

    • @alundavies1016
      @alundavies1016 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nowherepeople3431 the people that run out public services?

    • @Tigerman303
      @Tigerman303 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Keep telling yourself that 😂

  • @EdwardOberon
    @EdwardOberon 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Vote Labour

    • @ChartreuseDan
      @ChartreuseDan 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, Plaid's got a point. The current Labour government has clearly indicated it attempts to merely re-run the already failed broadchurch New Labour experiment for fear the right-leaning working class will abandon them (in ignorance of the fact that this course of action has been proven to guarantee the right-leaning working class will abandon them)
      Even just ensuring the existence of some larger third parties seems like a good foil to the market-obsessed idling a post-thatcher majority government falls into and may even set the stage for something better than the current rotten two-party parliamentary system.
      Don't get me wrong, I'm tactically voting Labour, but it's not like I'm happy about it. I would've loved to have a party I could trust that I could responsibly vote for instead.

  • @user-yz5yq7xy2u
    @user-yz5yq7xy2u 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    How did voting for Brexit work out for you

  • @user-uo7jx6gx2t
    @user-uo7jx6gx2t 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you can't continue to operate a steelworks if there is a reduced demand for steel globally. the world is an interlocked capitalist economy and when times are good - ie growth cycles - everyone benefits from that capitalist economy. but there are always down cycles or even bust cycles. it's pointless complaining about it or trying to lay blame. everyone is participating in this in one way or another and they would be better off putting some brain power to understand what makes the world go around. if they had, perhaps they wouldnt have voted for brexit.

  • @jhwheuer
    @jhwheuer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    They all cheered when voting for brexit... Keep cheering

    • @howardstephens5003
      @howardstephens5003 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Nobody voted for Net-Zero.

    • @PhilippaBeale
      @PhilippaBeale 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wales didn’t vote for brexit

    • @leonblittle226
      @leonblittle226 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah that salt still flows, the bitter and twisted remoaner still dishing out nothing but hate and working for the establishments objective like a good sheep. You people are pathetic.

    • @judgementkazzy113
      @judgementkazzy113 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It was net zero not brexit

    • @callu947
      @callu947 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@howardstephens5003unfortunately old man we need net zero. If we keep on the track we are on all this won’t matter. The steelworks, farming, mining, fishing, it’ll all be put out of action by Mother Nature.

  • @Kit23870
    @Kit23870 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I want someone who will try and help us... so I'll vote for the guy who's currently in power, lol what

  • @mikeclifford7740
    @mikeclifford7740 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    who is fighting for the disabled?

    • @koalafiedmistake5507
      @koalafiedmistake5507 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So far its Green with the major, and Labour vaguely implying they'll do some things

    • @joeduffy3309
      @joeduffy3309 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      führage apparently, he's the man of the people now, he got you to vote to make the country poorer so he has all the answers

    • @howtoappearincompletely9739
      @howtoappearincompletely9739 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In this video, it seemed to be the disabled who were doing the fighting for others by volunteering to run the food bank! Massive respect to those two older women for doing so. They certainly shouldn't have to do it.

  • @guyspearing4608
    @guyspearing4608 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    And how did they vote in the non binding Brexit "referendum"????

  • @caffeinej2691
    @caffeinej2691 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    all the best from Germany. Also a declining economy thx to poor politics .

  • @54032Zepol
    @54032Zepol 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Steelworkers? Werent the whole industry shipped off to Indonesia during the boomer generation?

  • @stuartwilson7392
    @stuartwilson7392 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The steel workers voted to lose their jobs and now they are losing them. They have only themselves to blame. A large majority of the people of Port Talbot voted for Brexit that destroyed the economic trade relations that the steel plants relied upon to make them economically viable. Without that it was only a matter of time before the steel works would close.

    • @davidpryle3935
      @davidpryle3935 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Redcar steelworks closed in 2015 when Britain was a member of the EU.

    • @stuartwilson7392
      @stuartwilson7392 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@davidpryle3935 That is irrelevant. Lots of businesses opened and closed while in the EU but leaving it meant economic sanctions that at a minimum has taken 5% points off the UK;s GDP every year.

    • @davidpryle3935
      @davidpryle3935 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartwilson7392 Oh I see. Steelworks closing down is only relevant when it suits a particular argument.

    • @stuartwilson7392
      @stuartwilson7392 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@davidpryle3935 Ok you do not want to accept economic reality.. Brexit caused Britain to impose massive economic sanctions upon itself. As a direct result investment into steel production that was heading for the UK and been diverted to India and Europe because they are either massive or potentially massive economic zones. Little old Britain on its own is not and as a direct result those steel plants in Port Talbot and Llanwern are closing down. Also the EU was able to negotiate the removal of US steel tariffs on its steel products imposed when Trump was last in power but they remain on Brexit Britain. If we had still been in the EU those investments would likely have been made here and the US steel tariffs would not exist, but that is not the case. So those that voted for this only have themselves to blame. So those at Port Talbot can stop whining blaming others and start accepting they were responsible. The Tories are not responsible since they just delivered what the public said they wanted. So the public can reap what they sow.

    • @davidpryle3935
      @davidpryle3935 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartwilson7392 Inconvenient fact. The Redcar steelworks closed in 2015, when Britain was a member of the European Union.

  • @shellyb1-yf4sl
    @shellyb1-yf4sl 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    rishi sunak and help your joking aren't you, he's done nothing in his time in office nothing has changed, another one all talk and no action.

  • @Peter-lm3ic
    @Peter-lm3ic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As Jeremy Clarkson has said: I would rather vote for my dog than Kier Starmer!

  • @JordanSmith-gm8qt
    @JordanSmith-gm8qt 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Im sorry if you started work in the steel works in 1978 then were made redundant in 1982 you arent an unemployed steel worker, youve had 42 years to find another trade or industry

  • @fintamaria2429
    @fintamaria2429 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope from the bottom of my heart it will be a priority, because the problem of renting is something to be scared of. Landlords can afford to raise prices when and how they want. They are playing with people's lives, we are at their mercy with our money.. If I had to pay rent alone from the minimum wage in the economy,,,, I can't afford it, the rent is higher than the salary 😢😢😢

  • @Sigmondenglebertsaxon
    @Sigmondenglebertsaxon 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Left wing right wing dont matter we need a diffrent bird