Part 2: Research & Development (Magico Factory Tour)
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:27 Magico loudspeakers driver testing
8:28 Magico loudspeakers machine shop
14:01 Magico loudspeakers warehouse
19:10 Magico loudspeakers paint finish
21:28 Magico warehouse inventory
23:04 Magico loudspeakers midrange enclosure
26:50 Magico loudspeakers quality control
27:51 Magico M9 carbon fiber enclosure
30:51 Magico A5 loudspeaker assembly
35:33 Magico M2 loudspeaker build
36:49 Alon Wolf & photography
40:16 Magico loudspeakers cabinet resonance
41:56 Magico loudspeakers measurements
48:24 Magico loudspeakers cabinet laser measurements
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Please subscribe and like this video! This was a ton of work so i hope you all enjoy!
Thanks for the opportunity to discover inside Magico with the owner, hope recording better video quality 👍
This is an absolutely amazing R&D + Production chain. Alon and his team truly make the magic behind Magico products.
I'm glad you liked this 👍
Those crossovers are crazy.
This is one of the best behind the scenes from a speaker manufacturer.
I took the right decision to go for the A5, which are currently produced, and then shipped to switzerland. The Center is already here, Fun to see how it looks inside.
Thanks so much, I'll wait for the Interview.
Thank you
Jay can I please give thanks to your wife for her amazing input into this production. She is doing a fantastic job. "great teamwork"
Thank you Shane. Will do !
thank you!
These videos on the Magico tour have been impressive. Thanks Jay.
Much appreciated
Thanks for the video Jay! I could do without the background music when there are conversations going on though. But thanks again great stuff! I own an A5.
Thank you. Try turning on captions during these parts
Couldn't agree more K L!
Respect ist the word that immediately comes to mind. What an incredible effort is put in these loudspeakers wauw wauw wauw…..you to Jay, thanks for the effort, great job!!!
Thank you
Not yet a Magico owner, but there is incredible intrinsic value in these timeless masterpieces - regardless of how one thinks these sound.
I appreciate that Jay, obviously a hard worker himself, could empathize with Mr. Wolf in how much time, effort and stress it takes to run a small company. And what is not shown is all the paperwork, compliance with myriad environmental, safety and other regulations and all the other hassles that have nothing to do with the normal tribulations of manufacturing a loudspeaker.
Possibly I will be buying Jay's S7's so he can move ahead to the Q7's ?🙂
Hey let me know man lol 😂
what a great tour ,thank you jay for taking us on it ,we realy enjoyed watching it ,its unbeliveble work that is done over there ,never seen anything like it ......
Thank you 👍
I wish I could talk to the founder to ask him about other speaker technologies like Horns/Electostats and why he chose a dynamic speakers made of solid Aluminum instead of say Granite! Just fascinating…I have a real respect for a person like this who makes phenomenal products!
Thanks, Jay for that insight...made me smile. Good to see that they use 95% of the ingredience i used 16 years ago in my developments. Also nice to see that they use handmade crossovers from here in Germany. Would have loved to talk to the CEO to which specs they are made to. When you entered the machine shop...man that felt so good, thats where i´m now back again....i make my parts to spec, with no discussion about why and when and why ididn´t do this and that, and the guy X did that because they heard the guy Y had made it that way. Workin on a compromiseless level is the best you could have in life, but, as you mentioned, its nearly impossible to explain to customers or regular people what an enormous amount of work flows into that. Thanks Jay, enjoyed it very much.
Thank you for the comment
Amazing the Midrange enclosure...
Agreed
Wow very impressed Magico! Thanks for this Jay!🔈👍🏻
Thank you 😀
Amazing video of the Magico factory!!!
Thank you 👍
superb well done so good exciting to watch
Hey Jay, Thank you for yet another excellent and informative video! Some really great work done here, and you and the great people at Magico are turning me into a real "Fanboy"! I'm definitely going to reach out and spread the word about this video. It's a very important presentation that Music Lovers and anyone who appreciates fine craftsmanship must see!
Thanks 👍
This is a great look inside the Magico factory, thanks for making this Jay! Most of us would never be able to see this without you going there.
Thanks man !
Absolutely excellent! Your tour videos, now part 2, are fantastic to listen to. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. Even if I am not one to drink the Magico kool-aid, there is a lot of interesting ideas/thoughts in this interview. So thanks!
Thanks James
Rough day, just catching up! Absolutely Wonderful Presentation!
Love seeing Engineering Steps involved in such HiEnd Speakers like
Magico! Awesome Content Jay! Thank you for Perseverance in the Craft of Music Reproduction!
Thanks JM. Much appreciated
Impressive engineering, it’s like a Formula 1 speaker. If I win the lottery I will certainly give them a listen.
That Klippel measuring system is just the right tool
You should
Awesome as always
Thank you!
Hey Jay, firstly thank you for bringing us a great video of the Magico factory. I have seen other videos from other vloggers. But your's is the best one of them all. It's a long video,but I appreciate it. Your level of thoroughness is great. It allowed me to really see and understand all the work that goes into each level of speakers regardless of price. As well as the quality of materials and workmanship that goes into each speaker. Congratulations on a job well done.👍👍👍
Much appreciated. Thanks for believing in my work !
Great job, by hardest working man in audio!
Thanks Marty !
Hey GiGi and Jay, this was excellent, great camera work! Oh yeah that Q7 is a beautiful speaker.
Thank you
thanks lol :)
Another great video Jay! Alon is definitely a perfectionist....guess that's why his speakers are so good.
Agreed. Thank you Ron !
Excellent overview, great information now you know why these speakers are worth it. Great behind the scenes information. Btw love the music! Keep up the great work.
Thanks
In the 1960s KLH guaranteed that the speaker you buy will be within +/- 1db of the prototype.
My father was the quality control manager of Hazeltine electronics for 14 years. Their only customers were the US military and NASA.
Someone specified an Acoustic Research driver for a control console so he went to Cambridge Mass. to audit the company. At one point he asked the manager what the huge pile of destroyed drivers was. He was told those were drivers that didn't meet specifications and they wanted to be sure they'd never see the light of day on the market. In those days one critical specification that anything sold to the military had to meet was 10CFR29. CFF stands for Congressional Federal Register. We have many standards in industry, ANSI, IEEE, ASTM, ASME, ASHRAE and the infamous ISO9000. As a project manager I had to meet an ISO9000 compliant process that was audited both internally and externally by Lloyds of London. Not only were the project files audited but knowledge of process was audited too. You could call other people in your department during the audit to ask for help and there were instances where two employees would argue over what the process manual meant. ISO can be summarized as say what you mean, mean what you say, and have the paperwork to prove it.
YG acoustics made their loudspeakers pretty much entirely out of aluminum using CNC machining equipment. The owner Dick Diamond said it's very convenient to have a half ton crane in your listening room. Even the cones were machined out of aluminium billets. This could be one definition of insanity. Unfortunately the video of the entire aluminum cabinet assembly is no longer available.
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Back in the 1960s McIntosh used to have "amplifier clinics" at their dealers. You could bring your amplifier and they would measure it for you for free. If it was a McIntosh amplifier and wasn't within its published specifications they'd repair it until it was at no cost to the owner.
So what is my bottom line? Based on how these systems all work they don't do what I want them to. In short they can't produce the sound that I want to hear based on my memory of live concerts.
So that means that you don't listen to a home audio system because "it can't reproduce the sound that you want to hear"? LMFAO.
@@brentwalker3300 No, it means I had to invent my own that does. See my US patent 4,332,979. Ignore the first three figures. They are part of a different patent related to measuring devices and a measuring system that should have been omitted. Is it hard? Yes. Does it work? Yes it does, very well. Was it expensive ? Not by audiophile standards. What surprised me most is that it works very well on mp3 files. I only tried it recently and was surprised. It works on entirely different principles based on my own mathematical modeling of sound fields I invented. BTW, this is just a hobby for me. My engineering skills are put to much more useful tasks.
One of the best loudspeaker on flat earth for sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Insane. Totally insane. In the best way possible.
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Awesome TH-cam channel and content. More please from other manufacturers 👍
If they decide to line up, I'm down to do this again
Very interesting!! nice Job!!
Thanks for the support
All that carbon fiber!! An F1 team would be envious
Lol 😂
That was a very cool tour. Many thanks to you, your wife, and the team at Magico. Assuming you are back home now, the temperature has dropped about 30° in Hayward😅
Thank you
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Great video Jay , more than part 1 . I have many comments ! But i not make it .. Eny way you raise Magico with this videos ( in people eyes ) . BR
Thank you
ATC makes all their own drive units, and also tests every single one, and also with the klippel measuring system. Their active SCM ASL loudspeakers are legendary. All made in the UK, and family owned.
Cool 👍
This is really terrific Jay, to be able to actually see some of which goes into producing a Magico speaker - most impressive for sure. One comment, unrelated to Magico is to please not play background music over voice conversation. For me, I find it distracting and further makes it difficult to hear the actual voice content. Thanks Jay, I'm enjoying this series and look forward to the next segment.
I agree. Its a learning curve for sure as i elevate my production value. Try turning on the captions on during difficult areas !
I didn't think to turn on captions. Good suggestion. Thanks
Magico Part III soon...thanks Jay
Thanks
Regarding driver testing, did Magico indicate what the rejection rate for the drivers is?
I own Magico A5's and had no idea every driver is tested before they go to assembly. Kudos to Magico.
I didn't ask
@@jaysaudiolab Terrific stuff, fascinating to gain this level of insight. Looking forward to the next installment.
@@mattkozink7488 thank you
Thanks for sharing this , it’s great to see a company that is passionate about the gear they make.
One note , please lose the music when doing these or at least lower the volume so we can hear what’s being said rather than the music drowning them out. Thanks again 👍🏾
Turn on captions
@@jaysaudiolab nah I’m good shouldn’t have to do that
YT captions is just awful with an iPad
@@jaysaudiolab I agree with the comment on the background music. Turning captions on with you tube is not the greatest. Would be nice to have heard them speaking more clearly. other than that i truly love you videos.
@@jennifercoleman3594 I'll upload the video without the music
Great video Jay always interesting to have behind the scenes look at one of the finest speaker manufacturers in the World today. Another interesting Company is Rockport Technolgies they offer superb designed and highly engineered speakers. The Rockport Lyra speaker is manufactured from a twin all aluminum continuous casting enclosure with no fixings, these two casting are held together with the custom formulated high mass damping compound that when cured forms one stiff highly damped structure a true monocoque design. It's a speaker that you should listen to in the lab.
Some day
Where he is talking at 7:20 about dropping speakers and things inside breaking. I'm supprised. That ally wld break
Very well done Jay. Not a fan of the music either but the tour was excellent
Thanks 🙏
B+W, KEF, Wilson Benesch do very similar.
So the speakers that have dents and dings from production but are not sonically flawed do they sell those at a discount? What do they do with the product? They have to recycle it or sell it just like other machines.
Negative.. that isn't good for any business
Magico II, Mission continues...
Who knows
I was under the impression that Magico made most of their own drivers now, but I don’t see that here…?
Jay needed to do all those bicep curls to be able to lift the M6 faceplate
Lol 😂
Great video bro. Who is that on the music? It’s a banger 😊👍🏾
Not sure lol
Copy that. Thanks for replying. 🙂
Interesting that they do not do the acoustic tests on a treated room...
The machine does that without the need for a room
I’m strangely fascinated by the boxes that say Made in China where the talk of extrusion is happening…? I assume it is a “minor part”???
Saw that... perhaps it related to packaging/labeling/shipping, as there's adjacent supplies of such.
Interesting nonetheless.
I wonder what amplifiers are they using for listening tests
Pilium
I believe I saw a QSC pro audio amp in that test system.
In case these guys don't know they make smart stickers ... so the correct company pays when it's damaged
Why would you put bad music on the background as loud as the voices of people explaining?
Who makes the MAGICO Drivers?
Good question
Great vid as always. Background music is too loud IMO. Love your vids though. :)
Thanks Jennifer
@@jaysaudiolab you're more than welcome.
Mostro, you did it again, eres una bestia! But. Music it’s a little annoying.
Understood
Hello....
Thanks. But the music is an unnecessary distraction especially when you are interviewing the team
Legacy audio also goes through extensive checking like this as well.
where is m9 :D
Part 3
Please re-post this video without the annoying background music that’s overpowering everything.
Turn on captions
not sure why Jay, is shocked at seeing Aluminium blocks being machined....happens all day long at car alloy shop...
Car...not with speakers
Was looking forward to this but had to switch off as the annoying music just drowned out what was being said!
You can turn on captions during those passages... turn down the volume a little and click on your captions... Easy and simple... 😎
@@jaysaudiolab Thanks Jay. 👍
a box with 4 drivers and some wiring plus a crossover and Magico want the cost of three Ferrari's for their speakers.....ps which are impossible to drive...unlike the Ferrari....
Not their fault. Other brands do the same .... You have to be mad at the industry as awhile and not just Magico
Quality price ratio does not represent the asking price of these loudspeakers.
To much for me I fell to sleep I just want the speaker.
Pull out the $
@@jaysaudiolab Yes, when I get the Line Stage. First making sure all my money is correct when I call.
Поэтому они и не понравились по звуку мне, весь кроссовер на мундорфах, мундорф не очень а тем более когда только они (
It would be thoughtful to not have masked people need to talk, that muffled voice is not natural.
Let's focus on the entire production...not one tiny thing
@@jaysaudiolab You are a good man Jay, you are right, thank you for reminding me of that.
@@bernardchesneau3091 thank you for being here
Could you re release the video without the techno music for kids ? would love to watch this without the " beatz "
I'll have it on my members only section on my website
A lot of promotions
That's TH-cam.
Fascinating. Music is atrocious.
Why do they all wear masks?
They cheat a bit 10 DB curves. I have seen drivers Steen Duelund made 30 years ago do better
Who’s buying a speaker from a manufacturer who sends out their speakers without being tested first? They gotta be real cheap speakers
It happens buddy
Awful background music
I don't understand. Am I supposed to watch or listen to the show, cause unfortunately both cannot be done simultaneously. What a waste .....
whats wrong with wood? most musical instruments are made of wood.
That's great for a single instrument that must sound in a particular way but a speaker must be able to accurately reproduce all instruments, including those not made from wood.
@@cpunter mmm i see. thanks
Not impressive as Focal factory.
What's the point of doing all that testing if they don't publish the results?