I use Ableton but I had the same issue with FL. I tried several times to get into FL, but it just doesn't compute with me. It's a matter of what sits good with you, not a question of which one is better. Any DAW has strong and weak points.
I've been using Ableton since 2005 and it's incredibly powerful and deep if you want to spend the time getting into some of the more robust features like the racks and the live performance features. But as a straight recording daw compared to a more traditional design like Protools or Logic, it has some deficiencies. I know a lot of people who came out of traditional studio environments that hate doing the fundamentals like mixing/mastering in ableton. For arrangement, organically coming up with quick ideas and getting super-nerdy with effect/instrument chains, macros, and other things it can keep me occupied forever.
It’s not the most powerful all these DAWS do the same thing just in different ways, it comes down to your personal preference and whichever workflow you like
I think the reason it doesn't feel quite "right" to many producers is because to me it was a "live" performance/DJ program that evolved to include producing. Ableton is kind of genre specific also. It is very popular with electronic producers (trance, house, step, etc)
I used Ableton Live for many years. v7 all the way to v10. I also played live with it for quite some time. Before the Push I used it with mouse and keyboard mainly. It always felt slow and awkward to make music with keyboard and mouse especially since I am a dev and fondle my keyboard all day already. I don't want to push a mouse for making music. Then I got the Push to solve this but I always hated how much it slowed me down and that I find the button layout to be something I just cannot remember until the next session. Then Live pushed itself over the edge by starting to behave weird. Crashing a lot, let me spend too much time to fix things before I can make music. My studio is wired and setup to be ready within 2-3 minutes max. When I need to fix things for sometimes the whole time I have time to make music it just sucks big time. Live did that to me constantly for some time and then I also lost a couple of projects because of incompatibilities between updates. I hated using Live and in turn started hating making music. That changed when I got the MPC in 2019. Now my setup is MPC for creativity, the extremely fast tools to get ideas out and refine them. And Studio 1 for arrangement, further refinement, mixing and then mastering. Everything is still setup to be ready within 2 minutes and it just works. S1 is incredibly stable. It sounds awesome and mixing just feels right. I even see myself using it for creating new beats from scratch. S1 is just that awesome. And the S1+ subscription is totally worth it. When the Push 3 came out I got that and tried it out but still hated it and sent it back. MPC + S1 makes me so happy as a musician
I couldn't really wrap my head around Ableton when I first bought it either. In fact, It didn't make sense to me for a few years. I bought a used Push 2 and Abletone finally clicked. I haven't opened any of my other DAWs (Reason, FL Studio, Studio One, Cakewalk, MPC, Maschine) since then. Then bought a Push 3 standalone. Blows the MPC and maschine plus out the water IMO, but from a hardware POV and workflow POV. And I have MPC Live and Maschine Plus. The Push 3 just makes since to me.
Just keep using it bro!! It's very musical!! For me it's better than all of the daws which I use everyday!! I'm digging deeper into Orchestration and this daw is a beast. For trap and hip hop I can see your feelings. Even though I do all types of music, ABL can take it all!! You are board because the music you are making may not challenge you anymore!! If you stick with ABL and grow your music to an even higher level and keep going higher, trust me you'll began to see the Logic in using ABL!! Love the channel. Met you at NAMM. You a cool cat!! Holla!!
Man I just simply love Ableton. It’s the only one I use. I thought about using others but with Home Schooling , my Business, making Music, and being a Musician, I don’t have the time. It’s been like this since the beginning of 2020. I bought a new MPC One(the 1st one) when it first came out and still haven’t opened it 🤦🏾♂️.
The thing with Live is, it IS the most powerful DAW, especially when it comes to making beats. Simpler, the Drum Racks and - if you know how to use them - the new Take Lanes are amazing for making composite beats out of lots of individual loops and samples. It’s also the FASTEST DAW too, once you know it, it’s faster than Logic! It can just take time if you’re coming from another DAW - like FL Studio - it’s so easy it’s hard!
Swapped to Ableton after using FL Studio for over 10 years. Yeah there's a learning curve but the way i can manipulate sounds and samples in Ableton is worth it. Only thing i really miss from FL is its piano roll, its just a bit more user friendly IMO
I’m team Logic but find Ableton useful for two things…audio manipulation and running backing tracks/stems during live performances. I don’t see myself ever taking on Ableton for production purposes. Like you said, it’s not a bad program but it’s just not for me on that level.
I think you just need to spend more time with it. I came up using mpc's and keyboards, logic etc and the first time I sat down with the push 3 and live, it felt like getting into a space ship - I had no idea how to do anything., But after a few weeks of it I'm blown away by how powerful it is, and it's easy to incorporate all my hardware. Now I have it as the center of my set up and love it!
LMAO I see I honestly have to make a tutorial video to help ya out Bro. Because you can insert VSTs anywhere on Ableton. Great stream tho and I see you're used to workin with what you work with. But yep.... Easy to follow tutorial comin soon
@dan_tanna same here, FL's non-linear workflows with the multiple windows just destroys my ADHD. Lmfao. I've been saying it for years but I think DAWs are a really personal thing, what DAW clicks with you can be completely different from someone else because the way you think is fundamentally different. Same goes for plugins. Really highlights the silliness of how serious people take the DAW wars when you think about it. Lol
Live is the best Daw “IF” you are using it to its full capability. Which would be both producing and using it live. Which is why I think it cost so much, it’s basically two daws. But yes if you’re just producing, you are going to feel like bolo because things like FL or Logic could just produce better. Personally I like the workflow of Ableton, very comfortable producing with it, so I’m sticking to it.
Very good assessment and evaluation I considered Ableton a while ago just because of the warp feature.... my question now is what does Studio One have over Logic Pro X which is my go-to far as Daws.... not even going to mention FL yes I know about the piano lol roll Logic not too bad either
I use Live when performing or DJing - it links to Serato, where Ableton will sync to Serato or Serato will sync with Live. You sync Live without 'Link', using input transients from other software, DJ or other.
...Im a 10 years logic user and I tried cubase 12 ,I was confused with my testing cos compared to cubase logic sounded kinda punchier but saturated, cubase sounded cleaner,warmer, more 3d..don't know how to explain..maybe just different...studio one engineers are former steinberg people so I guess studio one will sound clean too...gotta try it..regards
Abelton and Searto Sample is the ultimate combo. I used to use MPC and theirs NO WAY I'd go back. Way more user friendly. Easier to use and up to date. You just have to spend more time with it.
I would like to see you make beats live in Ableton. I want to get an understanding of how you use it. Hopefully I can get some tips from you. Ableton is the only DAW that feels like "me."
I think the biggest advice i can give for Ableton is learning the shortcuts, I even have it saved as a bookmark in my browser right now. Its such an incredible time saver once you get familiar with them. It's an incredible DAW and it's worth committing to imo.
I’ve been on Live since version 3. Just recently I’ve been demoing Reason 12. Idk when it happened but reason got a lot better than it used to be. For sure there is a way to do anything you might want to do in ableton but sometimes a change is nice. The mixing board in Reason is absolutely awesome.
You should try a company called acoustica's daw called mixcraft pro studio. 10 is the most recent version. Best bang for your buck. Built in compression, drive, and parametric eq right in the mixer.
Yo Bolo, I'd really like to see a video of you explaining how routing all this outboard gear works. Like is exporting stems from the mpc best or running it through something like your Manley force better??
Not gonna lie... im about 13 minutes in and i cant really understand what his issues are.😂😂😂😂sounds to me like u just not used to it and u dont like the look......and i use it....i use it with my mpc.....and when u said u were bored....I'm really trying to understand what yall expect a daw to do?
I'm a 9 month nuub and Ableton Live 11 works great even with Mascine 2. I tried FL (Fuity loops) and its just didn't work for my mind. I us Native instruments Maschine mk3 and the Kontrol S61 mk2
You're familiar with your workflow/what you're used to which is a good thing. Ableton is good for making beats and arranging. I use ti for that alone I arrange stuff then dump to PT to mix. The plugins are dope for adding to your samples.The mixing is cool for draft but I don't like the mixing part. I personally use Logic and S1 for tracking live bands then dump to PT. Ableton have various ways of manipulating sampling. I use Reason for their patches it let you use it in Ableton or any DAW as a plugin with sounds and dynamics. It's all preference much respect and give Ableton a try it may take awhile to get used to.
Sorry I missed the livestream... I think Ableton is a very deep DAW... maybe too deep. Individuals who know Ableton in-and-out will find most other DAW's unacceptable.There's a lot of features buried all over the place! A steep learning curve.
I have tried Ableton multiple times. It's fun but it's not for me either. I wish I could get used to it because of some of the gear I use works well with it. ... could happen if some spark happens. Old dogs and new tricks? Very possible.
I use Ableton to mix and master. I use Reason to make beats the only problem with Reason is editing features and midi routing right now. We will see in 13 what they will do
Studio One is the First Daw I learned and coming from it when I experience any others they just don’t seem as intuitive you can record mix master and produce easy under one roof
Ableton is really good. It is powerful but not my favorite. First things I do is change to dark mode and get out of session view to arrangement view😂 I know session view is what it is famous for, but i prefer the traditional left to right linear flow.
Ableton is the only Daw I connect with. I don’t like the workflow of FL studio and at this point I use hardware to make music then I stim out to ableton to mix and master,
There are features that mimic FL and Sudio One - you have to build a good template. You are right, when you first turn on Live, there isnt much there. You need someone to build a killer Template that has all of the stuff you like to use. Protools is very similar when it comes to first opening up the program - pretty boring. FL, Reason, & Studio One did a great job making the app appealing as soon as you open up the program.
ableton even sucks to use even more with the push2 because the program and the push do not follow each other like maschine and komplete kontrol and when you go to the program after using the push it loses me especially if i was searching that's why it's in the closet i'll stay with cubase and maschine
Here's my opinion on Ableton . Many will disagree with me and that's all good . matter of fact , I'm no professional , I'm just a regular person who loves technology .
Ableton is the goat BUT it's not for everyone. The learning curve is really steep at the beginning too. Really, sometimes having constraints is good for people.
Same here. Played around with it in the past but didn't care for ui or the color. To be fair this was about 5-6yrs ago. FL & MPC for me. Would like to try a new DAW at some point
Your 100 . If it takes more effort than it's worth , or same thing can be done Better elsewhere . What's the point Ableton . I think out of them all , I really hate Ableton.
BOLO, my Big Homie!...I think you dont like the fact that there's not a great beat creator, a-la: FL, Logic, Studio One, etc. You don't get a 4, 8, 16, or 32 bar click on / of beat creator (like you see when you open FL and others). Live grew out of the DJ space and its better for mixing clips and loops with other programs (Serato and others).
You are just not used to "real editing" part of music production. You have been goofing around with toyish FL studio or FL's predecessor Logic. FL and Logic are both just "toys" compared to what Ableton is. Ableton is "god tier". i assume it was pure "luck" and evolution creating Ableton for it's developers, because first versions of Ableton was literally bad and toyish like FL or Logic is.
bruh start manipulating audio/samples with the warp markers... I'm not talking about straight boring time stretching, start applying warp markers to different parts of the sample and then pull them this way and that way... Ableton is anything but boring, it's incredible.... alot of people only using warping for getting loops to fit together forget about that... manipulating warp markers is other worldly... it's bananas what you can do, Live isn't just number 1 it's 1, 2, and 3,
Bolo.. you just don’t like the workflow. There’s a lot of you TH-camr creators who try this and because your not committed to the work flow you kinda diss the program
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I use Ableton but I had the same issue with FL. I tried several times to get into FL, but it just doesn't compute with me. It's a matter of what sits good with you, not a question of which one is better. Any DAW has strong and weak points.
Ableton: My go to DAW for starting any track. Love it!!
I've been using Ableton since 2005 and it's incredibly powerful and deep if you want to spend the time getting into some of the more robust features like the racks and the live performance features. But as a straight recording daw compared to a more traditional design like Protools or Logic, it has some deficiencies. I know a lot of people who came out of traditional studio environments that hate doing the fundamentals like mixing/mastering in ableton.
For arrangement, organically coming up with quick ideas and getting super-nerdy with effect/instrument chains, macros, and other things it can keep me occupied forever.
ableton is really unlocked with the push 2 as far as making beats
Ableton is the most powerful DAW when you understand how many M4L devices there are and what they can do.
Really?! Feels like a lot of gimmicks and stuff that can waste your time instead of actually making music.
It crash too much
@@vestanpance99 you haven’t used it then. Experimentation and sound design is part of the creative experience!
@@deandresmith5761 No it doesn’t!
It’s not the most powerful all these DAWS do the same thing just in different ways, it comes down to your personal preference and whichever workflow you like
I think the reason it doesn't feel quite "right" to many producers is because to me it was a "live" performance/DJ program that evolved to include producing.
Ableton is kind of genre specific also. It is very popular with electronic producers (trance, house, step, etc)
I used Ableton Live for many years. v7 all the way to v10. I also played live with it for quite some time. Before the Push I used it with mouse and keyboard mainly. It always felt slow and awkward to make music with keyboard and mouse especially since I am a dev and fondle my keyboard all day already. I don't want to push a mouse for making music. Then I got the Push to solve this but I always hated how much it slowed me down and that I find the button layout to be something I just cannot remember until the next session. Then Live pushed itself over the edge by starting to behave weird. Crashing a lot, let me spend too much time to fix things before I can make music. My studio is wired and setup to be ready within 2-3 minutes max. When I need to fix things for sometimes the whole time I have time to make music it just sucks big time. Live did that to me constantly for some time and then I also lost a couple of projects because of incompatibilities between updates. I hated using Live and in turn started hating making music. That changed when I got the MPC in 2019. Now my setup is MPC for creativity, the extremely fast tools to get ideas out and refine them. And Studio 1 for arrangement, further refinement, mixing and then mastering. Everything is still setup to be ready within 2 minutes and it just works. S1 is incredibly stable. It sounds awesome and mixing just feels right. I even see myself using it for creating new beats from scratch. S1 is just that awesome. And the S1+ subscription is totally worth it.
When the Push 3 came out I got that and tried it out but still hated it and sent it back. MPC + S1 makes me so happy as a musician
I went from Maschine to Ableton, after a month I can make great music in the program. My advice is learn the hot keys on the keyboard.
I couldn't really wrap my head around Ableton when I first bought it either. In fact, It didn't make sense to me for a few years. I bought a used Push 2 and Abletone finally clicked. I haven't opened any of my other DAWs (Reason, FL Studio, Studio One, Cakewalk, MPC, Maschine) since then. Then bought a Push 3 standalone. Blows the MPC and maschine plus out the water IMO, but from a hardware POV and workflow POV. And I have MPC Live and Maschine Plus. The Push 3 just makes since to me.
Just keep using it bro!! It's very musical!! For me it's better than all of the daws which I use everyday!! I'm digging deeper into Orchestration and this daw is a beast. For trap and hip hop I can see your feelings. Even though I do all types of music, ABL can take it all!! You are board because the music you are making may not challenge you anymore!! If you stick with ABL and grow your music to an even higher level and keep going higher, trust me you'll began to see the Logic in using ABL!! Love the channel. Met you at NAMM. You a cool cat!! Holla!!
Man I just simply love Ableton. It’s the only one I use. I thought about using others but with Home Schooling , my Business, making Music, and being a Musician, I don’t have the time. It’s been like this since the beginning of 2020. I bought a new MPC One(the 1st one) when it first came out and still haven’t opened it 🤦🏾♂️.
The thing with Live is, it IS the most powerful DAW, especially when it comes to making beats. Simpler, the Drum Racks and - if you know how to use them - the new Take Lanes are amazing for making composite beats out of lots of individual loops and samples. It’s also the FASTEST DAW too, once you know it, it’s faster than Logic! It can just take time if you’re coming from another DAW - like FL Studio - it’s so easy it’s hard!
Swapped to Ableton after using FL Studio for over 10 years. Yeah there's a learning curve but the way i can manipulate sounds and samples in Ableton is worth it. Only thing i really miss from FL is its piano roll, its just a bit more user friendly IMO
been using ableton for almost 20 years, when you get it all figured out it'll do everything you need
I’m team Logic but find Ableton useful for two things…audio manipulation and running backing tracks/stems during live performances. I don’t see myself ever taking on Ableton for production purposes. Like you said, it’s not a bad program but it’s just not for me on that level.
For me, Maschine for loops and Ableton for composition and integration of loops. I recently choose ableton too ;) Thanx for videos Bolo !
Thank the Lord for Ableton, i now became a Master of Merging Samples, Mixing & Mastering
to quote Mr Bill: "Ableton is literally just a giant sampler" and i truly love it for that. lol.
@@dirg3music I have to agree. It is good though. You can manipulate the life out of it.
I think you just need to spend more time with it. I came up using mpc's and keyboards, logic etc and the first time I sat down with the push 3 and live, it felt like getting into a space ship - I had no idea how to do anything., But after a few weeks of it I'm blown away by how powerful it is, and it's easy to incorporate all my hardware. Now I have it as the center of my set up and love it!
LMAO I see I honestly have to make a tutorial video to help ya out Bro. Because you can insert VSTs anywhere on Ableton. Great stream tho and I see you're used to workin with what you work with. But yep.... Easy to follow tutorial comin soon
Yeah its easy af, i can see how it's confusing if you have no idea what you're looking at tho
@@dirg3music Exactly! When I tried to use FL and Logic, I was lost! Even the tutorials couldn't help lol
@dan_tanna same here, FL's non-linear workflows with the multiple windows just destroys my ADHD. Lmfao. I've been saying it for years but I think DAWs are a really personal thing, what DAW clicks with you can be completely different from someone else because the way you think is fundamentally different. Same goes for plugins. Really highlights the silliness of how serious people take the DAW wars when you think about it. Lol
Live is the best Daw “IF” you are using it to its full capability. Which would be both producing and using it live. Which is why I think it cost so much, it’s basically two daws. But yes if you’re just producing, you are going to feel like bolo because things like FL or Logic could just produce better. Personally I like the workflow of Ableton, very comfortable producing with it, so I’m sticking to it.
Very good assessment and evaluation I considered Ableton a while ago just because of the warp feature.... my question now is what does Studio One have over Logic Pro X which is my go-to far as Daws.... not even going to mention FL yes I know about the piano lol roll Logic not too bad either
I use Live when performing or DJing - it links to Serato, where Ableton will sync to Serato or Serato will sync with Live. You sync Live without 'Link', using input transients from other software, DJ or other.
...Im a 10 years logic user and I tried cubase 12 ,I was confused with my testing cos compared to cubase logic sounded kinda punchier but saturated, cubase sounded cleaner,warmer, more 3d..don't know how to explain..maybe just different...studio one engineers are former steinberg people so I guess studio one will sound clean too...gotta try it..regards
Abelton and Searto Sample is the ultimate combo. I used to use MPC and theirs NO WAY I'd go back. Way more user friendly. Easier to use and up to date. You just have to spend more time with it.
Mpc and serato sample. Ableton drum programming is trash
@@Zopo214 not for me bro. If that's you'r only complaint use MPC in Abelton.
I would like to see you make beats live in Ableton. I want to get an understanding of how you use it. Hopefully I can get some tips from you. Ableton is the only DAW that feels like "me."
Bro get it. Take your time with it and thank me later.
I think the biggest advice i can give for Ableton is learning the shortcuts, I even have it saved as a bookmark in my browser right now. Its such an incredible time saver once you get familiar with them. It's an incredible DAW and it's worth committing to imo.
Having a dedicated controller or two works wonders. The initial learning curve is tough
I feel you about Ableton ,I could never really wrap my head around it...
Have you used Midi Quest when sync ing your synths to DAW for better parameter control
I’ve been on Live since version 3. Just recently I’ve been demoing Reason 12. Idk when it happened but reason got a lot better than it used to be. For sure there is a way to do anything you might want to do in ableton but sometimes a change is nice. The mixing board in Reason is absolutely awesome.
You should try a company called acoustica's daw called mixcraft pro studio. 10 is the most recent version. Best bang for your buck. Built in compression, drive, and parametric eq right in the mixer.
I have used them all, but FOR ME, Studio One is the one DAW that has it all, just use what feels good to YOU
Yo Bolo, I'd really like to see a video of you explaining how routing all this outboard gear works. Like is exporting stems from the mpc best or running it through something like your Manley force better??
you gotta set up your racks and effects for each channel and save it as a preset, so your always ready to hit it
I absolutely love ableton. Bought live studio because lite just wasn't enough
Ableton is the best thing that ever happened to music #ABLETONGANG
I’ve used pro tools , cubasis , reason , cakewalk , logic and ableton is my favorite Never really got into fruity loops
I can't speak for the others, but out of FL and Logic...Ableton is god level - Max4Life is ridiculous
Not gonna lie... im about 13 minutes in and i cant really understand what his issues are.😂😂😂😂sounds to me like u just not used to it and u dont like the look......and i use it....i use it with my mpc.....and when u said u were bored....I'm really trying to understand what yall expect a daw to do?
Bolo is a paid by akai. Don’t believe anything he says.
I'm a 9 month nuub and Ableton Live 11 works great even with Mascine 2. I tried FL (Fuity loops) and its just didn't work for my mind. I us Native instruments Maschine mk3 and the Kontrol S61 mk2
You're familiar with your workflow/what you're used to which is a good thing. Ableton is good for making beats and arranging. I use ti for that alone I arrange stuff then dump to PT to mix. The plugins are dope for adding to your samples.The mixing is cool for draft but I don't like the mixing part. I personally use Logic and S1 for tracking live bands then dump to PT. Ableton have various ways of manipulating sampling. I use Reason for their patches it let you use it in Ableton or any DAW as a plugin with sounds and dynamics. It's all preference much respect and give Ableton a try it may take awhile to get used to.
Yeah mixing on Ableton is not a great experience. They need a proper mixer layout like Studio One and Logic
Reason Gang! Studio One my 2nd DAW
Try it with the Push 2 or 3 Ahch
Sorry I missed the livestream... I think Ableton is a very deep DAW... maybe too deep. Individuals who know Ableton in-and-out will find most other DAW's unacceptable.There's a lot of features buried all over the place! A steep learning curve.
Bolo stop hatin 😂
I have tried Ableton multiple times. It's fun but it's not for me either. I wish I could get used to it because of some of the gear I use works well with it. ... could happen if some spark happens. Old dogs and new tricks? Very possible.
I use Ableton to mix and master. I use Reason to make beats the only problem with Reason is editing features and midi routing right now. We will see in 13 what they will do
Studio One is the First Daw I learned and coming from it when I experience any others they just don’t seem as intuitive you can record mix master and produce easy under one roof
Ableton is really good. It is powerful but not my favorite. First things I do is change to dark mode and get out of session view to arrangement view😂
I know session view is what it is famous for, but i prefer the traditional left to right linear flow.
Ableton is the only Daw I connect with. I don’t like the workflow of FL studio and at this point I use hardware to make music then I stim out to ableton to mix and master,
There are features that mimic FL and Sudio One - you have to build a good template. You are right, when you first turn on Live, there isnt much there. You need someone to build a killer Template that has all of the stuff you like to use. Protools is very similar when it comes to first opening up the program - pretty boring. FL, Reason, & Studio One did a great job making the app appealing as soon as you open up the program.
I've been using them all since Fruity Loops - early to mid 2000's.
i use it everyday
Ableton warping is king
The only thing boring about Ableton is the plugin GUI. I went from FL to Ableton. Ableton let's you scroll thru the MIDI too bro.
ableton even sucks to use even more with the push2 because the program and the push do not follow each other like maschine and komplete kontrol and when you go to the program after using the push it loses me especially if i was searching that's why it's in the closet i'll stay with cubase and maschine
Ableton is hands down the easiest DAW
Congrats on the 12 pounds!
If you like Korg, I have a DSS 1 for sale.
Here's my opinion on Ableton .
Many will disagree with me and that's all good .
matter of fact , I'm no professional , I'm just a regular person
who loves technology .
Ableton is God daw
Ableton is the goat BUT it's not for everyone. The learning curve is really steep at the beginning too. Really, sometimes having constraints is good for people.
Whoever said there is no correlation between sound quality and power supply is absolutely wrong.
Ableton is the Shyt.
Make a template and group your tracks bro
I can’t get past the look of ableton.
Same here. Played around with it in the past but didn't care for ui or the color. To be fair this was about 5-6yrs ago. FL & MPC for me. Would like to try a new DAW at some point
SAME!😂 I thought I was the only one lol the UI is crazy looking! I hate it
CNTRL X cut CNTRL V paste
I can't stand Ableton's UI.
Who asked you to use Ableton?
Your 100 . If it takes more effort than it's worth , or same thing can be done
Better elsewhere . What's the point Ableton .
I think out of them all , I really hate Ableton.
BOLO, my Big Homie!...I think you dont like the fact that there's not a great beat creator, a-la: FL, Logic, Studio One, etc. You don't get a 4, 8, 16, or 32 bar click on / of beat creator (like you see when you open FL and others). Live grew out of the DJ space and its better for mixing clips and loops with other programs (Serato and others).
I'm with you on the MPC software - hated that one.
It's been trash for awhile
NI sucks… Live is still the best, maybe by Bitwig could be better but not really. there is no more customizable DAW on the market right now.
Ableton is better than fl
I have never liked Ableton .
it's just meh for me better programs out there
sounds like you just do not know how to use the program.
You are just not used to "real editing" part of music production. You have been goofing around with toyish FL studio or FL's predecessor Logic. FL and Logic are both just "toys" compared to what Ableton is. Ableton is "god tier". i assume it was pure "luck" and evolution creating Ableton for it's developers, because first versions of Ableton was literally bad and toyish like FL or Logic is.
it’s not for everybody. tried to use it from time to time for 15 years and give it a shot and never does it for me.
bruh start manipulating audio/samples with the warp markers... I'm not talking about straight boring time stretching, start applying warp markers to different parts of the sample and then pull them this way and that way... Ableton is anything but boring, it's incredible.... alot of people only using warping for getting loops to fit together forget about that... manipulating warp markers is other worldly... it's bananas what you can do, Live isn't just number 1 it's 1, 2, and 3,
Bolo.. you just don’t like the workflow. There’s a lot of you TH-camr creators who try this and because your not committed to the work flow you kinda diss the program