Had my Kat Walk C2 for 8 months now and I'm loving it. I don't mind if everything isn't perfect, but these things just add a whole new level of immersion to games by removing all the need for being aware of any other surroundings except those in the game. You can totally forget running head first into a wall or knocking down your TV. Liberation once step further. It's a great workout too.
I'm jealous! Its just so pricey, especially where i am from. But its on my list. Hopefully by the time i have enough money they would have designed something better
@@jimmydesouza4375 You can strafe by sliding your foot from the side, but it is quite diffucult and not very natural. But you'll have decoupled body and head movements, so you can run sideways and watch the other way.
had one for a while now. making sure the surface is properly lubricated helps a lot. makes it easier to walk. there are also some mods for the shoes such as adding additional strips to the bottom. after enough time you wont be leaning forward and walking will feel more natural (takes a few hours)
Man , its the fucking future . Can you imagine workout beeing less boring ? Like imagine a game when u van choose where are you walking . IT can be forest , IT can be some nice candy world , even other planet . IT will help people to have fun while losing Weight
Man, this is bringing back bad memories when I used to use the C2 tracking. You have to really drag your feet. If you ever have a chance to use smooth shoes and baby oil on the platform with C1 tracking, try it. You will love it so much more. I usually just play in winter when I mostly have time off work and I crush the distance records. I have double the double the distance of the person in second place. I use 20 lb ankle weights which makes the walking actually feel more like walking, while also increasing the quality of the workout. It works better to add physical weight to your legs instead of trying to tweak the software to make running more challenging.
You're putting the harness too high (more to the stomach rather the waist), the major probable cause of nausea and weird position of walking (all three users in this video looked doing the same mistake). The best harness position is putting the back side of the belt on top of your waist (lower side of your back), and make a 30/45 ish degrees downward to below the waist on the front.
The harness rested on top of my hip bones during most of my testing, which is where it's intended to sit. I think the low camera angle makes it look higher too. I also played around with the strap position quite a bit, and the position in the video was the most comfortable!
1 1/2 hours isnt all that lengthy when you consider what it is. People are just used to too much on demand. I'd rather set this up than anything from Ikea lolol! And once its been set up a couple times, set up time goes down as experience of use goes up. 1 1/2 hours tells me the user is getting acquainted with the technology, which is a pro, not a con. The real con, for me is being fooled into buying yet another copy of skyrim lolol! I'll bet it makes walking around in Power Armor seem real tho😅
The other thing you can do with the C1 is use the steam natural locomotion jump mod, which works better, and actually causes a jump to trigger the jump physical button on the controller. Anytime your feet leave the platform on the C2, you stop moving, because of the analog tracking.
I bought an actual treadmill, can't be worse than that. And this one i might actually enjoy. That is if games, vr headsets, and other applications support it.
The holiday bundle for the kat walk c2 is a no brainer. You get a free sit, free two year warranty and a discount at checkout. Yea is doesnt have the haptic or cool lights but are you going to use a headset anyway ? And for the haptic that is just a option not a big deal. If it comes w the seat then ill save myself $500. Plus the core is taller so you can crouch or jumo more efficiently.
bought one and I have mixed feelings as well. Imho it is suitable only on single player games with slower movement. it isnt like you cant run fast with threadmill because you can! BUT side step or going bacwards is so hard to pull of effectively that you have so switch it for thumbstick movement otherwise it isnt effective. It also does not usually reflect your position perfectly. So far I would say the best experience was with HL Alyx. It is the future but it isnt there yet. And the noise is really bad. Dont even think about using it at "night"
Maybe the c2 is different but I side step and run backwards all the time. Get used to it and you don't have to think about it. I play borderlands in it and sometimes attack while running. Sometimes while running backwards.
Win some battles without that fas to fa. You have to circle the enemies on the treadmill to avoid taking damage, since strafing and running backwards are totally unrealistic to use competitively on these treadmills.
Sucks you coudln't outrun that Skyrim bear.. Was hoping for more from the software since I"m thinking of buying this for 7 Days to Die VR. Perhaps a running mod is needed that lets players go faster if they're running hard in the Katwalk C2?
Motion sickness is due to you not used with VR, as for the shoe making you cramps , you probably have shoes that doesn't fit your shoe. those shouldn't be cons.
I am really interested in this and i want to buy it but i have a question i live in the atic so my main problem is will i be waking up the entire house or does it have good sound supresion?
The C2 shoes are terrible. The C1 shoes, once you tear them down to the blue smooth surface, or ideal. The C2 shoes are bulkier, and the roller starts to hurt the ball of your feet. When you get into 4-Hour+ sessions like me, you really start to notice it.
If they can change the strap to fit around your chest rather than your waist...i think it might work better with running. But that will take some testing
As soon as you don’t have to buy those special shoes that’s when I’m going to buy one. It’s not really a cool piece if nobody else can use it because the shoe size.
Man, I wish I could buy it for that money. It's like $3k here in Russia Also, I'm really not sure it can hold my 110kg fat ass :\ So far all people i've seen on these «treadmills» are kinda slim.
This contraption would make more sense if you were suspended in mid air it takes away the natural feeling of walking which conserves Energy it saves damage to the board as one isn't needed and noise reduction ,and you can still run or walk with your legs by mimicking walking whilst in suspension ,you could be held in suspension in a much more natural stress relieving way for your body , you'd just need extra sensors between shoes and receiver , I don't know tech but just an idea
Well maybe you could benefit from some actual gym time. Get a jump rope for starters. Work your legs with weights and stuff. Get a cool mountain bike and try riding uphill. Work those legs IRL and then think of your VR time as just part of your exercise program. You will be amazed by how much your heart health will improve. If you have been just gaming and doing computer stuff then of course this wore you out. Muscle tissue goes away when you either don't use it or don't get enough protein. Gotta get in shape for this.
Idk. I'm fat, but *walking* 5km is nothing for me. I think part of the reason why it's so sweat inducing (does this make sense?) is because it's really uncomfortable. But maybe also he did more like a 5km jog.
@@zhulikkulik Well, I am not the slenderman by any means. But I love to workout. You wouldn't believe just how much of a difference it makes to work your legs. But jogging is the worst thing you can do legwise. Jogging is like the opposite of a leg building workout. It really tears your legs down.
All I’m going to say is that this is putting the cart before the horse. VR immersion and fidelity is just not there. Sure, doing a flight sim or maybe a racing game is much better, but walking around in an environment and “really feeling like your there hasn’t arrived! Maybe in a decade or two. 3D mapping, sound matching visual to real life timing wise will need to be in place. We’re way closer than we were 20 years ago, but we are only halfway!
Although the treadmill is nice in my opinion it’s not perfect because who wants to lean forward and be walking like that and can you actually run with this? Doesn’t seem like you can or you might trip. Maybe we should just keep the controllers for vr with the analog sticks for a while and let that do the job of moving your character.
Had my Kat Walk C2 for 8 months now and I'm loving it. I don't mind if everything isn't perfect, but these things just add a whole new level of immersion to games by removing all the need for being aware of any other surroundings except those in the game. You can totally forget running head first into a wall or knocking down your TV. Liberation once step further.
It's a great workout too.
I'm jealous! Its just so pricey, especially where i am from. But its on my list. Hopefully by the time i have enough money they would have designed something better
Does it support strafing? Last time I checked VR treadmills none of them did and the ability to side step is pretty important.
@@jimmydesouza4375 You can strafe by sliding your foot from the side, but it is quite diffucult and not very natural. But you'll have decoupled body and head movements, so you can run sideways and watch the other way.
Yes, in any direction.
had one for a while now. making sure the surface is properly lubricated helps a lot. makes it easier to walk. there are also some mods for the shoes such as adding additional strips to the bottom. after enough time you wont be leaning forward and walking will feel more natural (takes a few hours)
Hmmm I'll have to try that out, cheers!
Would you recommend buying one?
@@MrFiveHimself yes, i use it almost every day. add a bhaptics vest and the immersion is amazing
What do you use for lubrication? And also what mods for the shoes?
Im also curious on the mods of the shoes that u use and what you use for lubrication. Please drop it here.
Skyrim in VR ?!
+ the Kat Walk C2
….man, we are living in the future.
This was my first vr treadmill and I love it vr keeps getting better and better
Man , its the fucking future . Can you imagine workout beeing less boring ? Like imagine a game when u van choose where are you walking . IT can be forest , IT can be some nice candy world , even other planet . IT will help people to have fun while losing Weight
Bingo. I just bought one-though it's a month away. I also hate how fear of hitting things in real life, stops the immersion for me.
😊I think you can do that in VRchat
The walking backwards issue is just for the c2 core vecause the support beam thingy is further forward than the other models
Man, this is bringing back bad memories when I used to use the C2 tracking. You have to really drag your feet. If you ever have a chance to use smooth shoes and baby oil on the platform with C1 tracking, try it. You will love it so much more. I usually just play in winter when I mostly have time off work and I crush the distance records. I have double the double the distance of the person in second place. I use 20 lb ankle weights which makes the walking actually feel more like walking, while also increasing the quality of the workout. It works better to add physical weight to your legs instead of trying to tweak the software to make running more challenging.
You're putting the harness too high (more to the stomach rather the waist), the major probable cause of nausea and weird position of walking (all three users in this video looked doing the same mistake). The best harness position is putting the back side of the belt on top of your waist (lower side of your back), and make a 30/45 ish degrees downward to below the waist on the front.
The harness rested on top of my hip bones during most of my testing, which is where it's intended to sit. I think the low camera angle makes it look higher too. I also played around with the strap position quite a bit, and the position in the video was the most comfortable!
Can you change out the waist strap for a full body harness that spreads the pressure on more contact points?
No, you can put on this Star Wars
You could do that
Play that like Star Wars
1 1/2 hours isnt all that lengthy when you consider what it is. People are just used to too much on demand. I'd rather set this up than anything from Ikea lolol! And once its been set up a couple times, set up time goes down as experience of use goes up. 1 1/2 hours tells me the user is getting acquainted with the technology, which is a pro, not a con.
The real con, for me is being fooled into buying yet another copy of skyrim lolol!
I'll bet it makes walking around in Power Armor seem real tho😅
The other thing you can do with the C1 is use the steam natural locomotion jump mod, which works better, and actually causes a jump to trigger the jump physical button on the controller. Anytime your feet leave the platform on the C2, you stop moving, because of the analog tracking.
Hello u know me but I have seen u since u started vr it was a fun way 😂 I still watch ur videos and brutality
Since you have tested both VR treadmills, which one did you feel was more comfortable and more immersive in games, Kat Walk C2 Core ou Omni One?🤔
I bought an actual treadmill, can't be worse than that. And this one i might actually enjoy. That is if games, vr headsets, and other applications support it.
The holiday bundle for the kat walk c2 is a no brainer. You get a free sit, free two year warranty and a discount at checkout. Yea is doesnt have the haptic or cool lights but are you going to use a headset anyway ? And for the haptic that is just a option not a big deal. If it comes w the seat then ill save myself $500. Plus the core is taller so you can crouch or jumo more efficiently.
bought one and I have mixed feelings as well.
Imho it is suitable only on single player games with slower movement.
it isnt like you cant run fast with threadmill because you can! BUT side step or going bacwards is so hard to pull of effectively that you have so switch it for thumbstick movement otherwise it isnt effective. It also does not usually reflect your position perfectly.
So far I would say the best experience was with HL Alyx. It is the future but it isnt there yet.
And the noise is really bad. Dont even think about using it at "night"
Maybe the c2 is different but I side step and run backwards all the time. Get used to it and you don't have to think about it. I play borderlands in it and sometimes attack while running. Sometimes while running backwards.
Perhaps the jump would be more functional for a shorter person
Awesome vid Zulu, keep it up : D
Thanks man!
Win some battles without that fas to fa. You have to circle the enemies on the treadmill to avoid taking damage, since strafing and running backwards are totally unrealistic to use competitively on these treadmills.
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there's a problem with the camera, when using the treadmill
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Glad to have you here!
Soreness and nausea sound like effects you'd probably just need to acclimatize to.
Sucks you coudln't outrun that Skyrim bear..
Was hoping for more from the software since I"m thinking of buying this for 7 Days to Die VR.
Perhaps a running mod is needed that lets players go faster if they're running hard in the Katwalk C2?
There are, and a mod called "no stamina drain from sprinting" so you use your stamina instead of your character
@@pixelfairy Thanks! I already found the mod but also appreciate the response.
Use that tredmill in that star wars game you play I forgot the name I am sorry and play with lancer to
Motion sickness is due to you not used with VR, as for the shoe making you cramps , you probably have shoes that doesn't fit your shoe. those shouldn't be cons.
ALSO, this device is for veterans, not for casuals.
Gotta ask, what skyrim mods are you running?
I am really interested in this and i want to buy it but i have a question i live in the atic so my main problem is will i be waking up the entire house or does it have good sound supresion?
It has no sound suppression at all.
The C2 shoes are terrible. The C1 shoes, once you tear them down to the blue smooth surface, or ideal. The C2 shoes are bulkier, and the roller starts to hurt the ball of your feet. When you get into 4-Hour+ sessions like me, you really start to notice it.
Sidenote: I don't use the analog for any movement at all in my treadmill videos.
I cam imagine i use this to play CODM man gonna get a ten type of injury and broken bone....
How the noise compares to virtuix omni one?
Both are fairly noisy. Pretty similar imo!
If they can change the strap to fit around your chest rather than your waist...i think it might work better with running. But that will take some testing
If you get the adapter with meta quest 3, do you still need a cpu to make the kat core treadmill work?
Very nice
I need that!!!!😅
How ars you sweating so hard after walking only 5.5 km?
It's not a normal walk. Have to move in an angle to walk forward at times so it takes more effort than usual it seems
Can I play halo 2 and or old games like house of the dead
As soon as you don’t have to buy those special shoes that’s when I’m going to buy one. It’s not really a cool piece if nobody else can use it because the shoe size.
order some extra pairs.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 people have different shoe sizes though.
How can I convince my mum to let me buy one. No matter what I do she won’t let me buy it, even with my money.
...start shitting in the corner of the lounge, then offer to stop, if she let's you buy it. Just a suggestion.
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Yooo good to see you here!
Man, I wish I could buy it for that money. It's like $3k here in Russia
Also, I'm really not sure it can hold my 110kg fat ass :\ So far all people i've seen on these «treadmills» are kinda slim.
I wish I had one😢
This contraption would make more sense if you were suspended in mid air it takes away the natural feeling of walking which conserves Energy it saves damage to the board as one isn't needed and noise reduction ,and you can still run or walk with your legs by mimicking walking whilst in suspension ,you could be held in suspension in a much more natural stress relieving way for your body , you'd just need extra sensors between shoes and receiver , I don't know tech but just an idea
Well maybe you could benefit from some actual gym time. Get a jump rope for starters. Work your legs with weights and stuff. Get a cool mountain bike and try riding uphill. Work those legs IRL and then think of your VR time as just part of your exercise program. You will be amazed by how much your heart health will improve. If you have been just gaming and doing computer stuff then of course this wore you out. Muscle tissue goes away when you either don't use it or don't get enough protein. Gotta get in shape for this.
Idk. I'm fat, but *walking* 5km is nothing for me. I think part of the reason why it's so sweat inducing (does this make sense?) is because it's really uncomfortable. But maybe also he did more like a 5km jog.
@@zhulikkulik Well, I am not the slenderman by any means. But I love to workout. You wouldn't believe just how much of a difference it makes to work your legs. But jogging is the worst thing you can do legwise. Jogging is like the opposite of a leg building workout. It really tears your legs down.
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Dude i see you using the joystick to move all throughout the video
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Can it be slide into a corner easily when not in use?
No. I use furniture pads and a crowbar. If you just slide it, the rubber feet come off. It's a pain.
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All I’m going to say is that this is putting the cart before the horse. VR immersion and fidelity is just not there. Sure, doing a flight sim or maybe a racing game is much better, but walking around in an environment and “really feeling like your there hasn’t arrived! Maybe in a decade or two. 3D mapping, sound matching visual to real life timing wise will need to be in place. We’re way closer than we were 20 years ago, but we are only halfway!
Agreed. VR treadmills seem like a peek into the future of what VR could look like. Definitely needs a lot more work though!
Still a good workout, even if not "realistic"
Ham?
Although the treadmill is nice in my opinion it’s not perfect because who wants to lean forward and be walking like that and can you actually run with this? Doesn’t seem like you can or you might trip.
Maybe we should just keep the controllers for vr with the analog sticks for a while and let that do the job of moving your character.
You can run on it. But sounds like you'd like the Omni One better.
@@pixelfairy yeah definitely. It’s gonna be more expensive but why not
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This game is not very smooth on the treadmill. Onward and Recroom are much better.
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