Great video, thanks! I have over 1000 miles on my 2 Talaria Sting R MX4's I bought in May 2023 from Luna Cycles. I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned. Mine have riser bars, direct mount stem, stem lock, footpegs, axle blocks, headlight (and switch), roller chain, Rippin Moto 250mm front brakes, Shimano pads, grips and custom seat covers. So about $1200 in upgrades from stock. I ride every day in all kinds of terrain, rain or shine. I routinely go 40 miles on a charge. I've already sold 2 other bikes because I don't ride them anymore. The MX4 is just that good! Mine have held up to lots of abuse and I get up each morning thinking about my next ride. Life is good!
After watching 1000 videos, I gathered my courage to comment. You are doing an excellent job, guys! Thank you for all the work and please keep making the videos, they are super useful and engaging! Because of you, I'm getting my Talaria Sting R in a few days!
I have a 17 rear and 21 front. It absolutely rips with 72v 43ah nano. Never bottomed out in the rear. I run 12.5kw and its the perfect balance. So much smoother than my mx3. I have my nano perfectly dialed in. I think you need a batter battery.
You guys have the most professional reviews of anyone on TH-cam that I have watched over the past few weeks, really considering pulling the trigger on a talaria MX4 I'm an old guy at 70, used to motocross in the 70s, but would like to trail ride and put around town now, these things look obviously extremely cool thank you for such thorough reviews I have learned an awful lot from watching them best to you guys Thanks for all the straightforward honest information you guys are the best!!, The old guy in north Idaho 😊
I finally pulled the trigger yesterday boys! Now its just getting it and putting it together, Little nervous to do it on my own but im trying to gain the knowledge for when it comes.
There is enough detail and pragmatic upgrade information in this video to satisfy this MX4 owner. Thank you, Talaria Boys! No one is uploading videos with better, more practical content than you guys. Keep it up, please!
@@Talariaboys I personally like it. I'm only riding off road. Much more comfortable to sit without feeling like my knees are in my chest, other option for that was lower pegs and lose clearance. Much better standing, now if I squeeze the bike it's with my knees and not my lower legs... there is actually something there. Allows for larger rear tire. Will be able to fit a larger battery without changing, modifying, or raising (independently) the battery cover. Now it stays in line with the seat so I can get way forward if I need to and the lines of the bike stay the same, if you know what I mean. Gives me a little more room under the battery cover and there's actually a void under the seat now for "accessories" if you want to add anything to your bike discreetly. I will say the bike may look a little goofy with the riser and small wheels, but with a 21 in the front and 18 or 19 on the rear it looks like it was meant to be. I guess I really like my seat riser... It's all about what fits you and what you like. I'm glad we're all different, life would be boring otherwise. Keep ripping boys! Enjoy the videos and definitely jealous of the landscapes you have available to you. Here in New England it's tight, ROCKY, and mostly not legal. I'm 5' 8", 32" inseam, 170lbs, in case anyone is curious.
@@Talariaboys Hi dear, i have the TALARIA MX3 Street Legal (TL3000) and has this problem : after a little fall the speed indication on the Display shows the speed with little delay, i can start rolling 2-3 km/h but its shows 0 km/h after i get faster its start to shows the speed indication with delay, what can be the reason and how to fix that ?
@@ReignLowell-CaedoFaeda haha def the first thing I’m doing before I ride is cutting that wire, I own a motorcycle already but got the mx4 for the different type of riding it offers, def gonna be nice not having to sit at stop lights in the really hot weather
@@dmvbenz7536 Just be careful! Someone cut my $200 Kryptonite chain and stole my bike like 2 days ago! Only got it back cause I hid an Apple Airtag in there. It's a hot item for thieves since it doesn't have license plates and doesn't have to be registered.
Adjusting the spring tighter doesn’t make your shock any longer to fix the geometry. The tire should not hit the seat frame before it bottoms the shock out even if the shock is set to soft. The shock should just bottom out.
@SuperCrafter1234 I think red piston caps on the brake calipers is the main giveaway. Black grips and there's a few other things. Try Googling for the list
Subbed and Liked months ago! Now a STING-R MX4 rider and seriously thinking about one more or the Larry 3X. Nobody keeps up with me. All my police contact has been while going SLOW (lucky). Wish list for your channel} #1 Headlight upgrade must be Plug & Play also front and rear light Kill switch. #2 Pedal kit that will actually work and the 9deception) can be demonstrated in fron t of the Sherriff's request. Excellent content and y'all are becoming my go to for info.
Thanks for watching! Yes we are hoping to do some of those suggestions in the future! We are more just waiting on brands to come out with products haha
@@Talariaboys OUR night riding is compromised, also I need stealth to get to a few riding locations at night. Them once in LIGHT'em up! And PLEASE with a kill switch as in ALL lights oiut. Thanx TBoyZ!
How about a controller upgrade for the XXX? Will an R controller work on the XXX? I was torn between the Sting R & the XXX, and was playing around on Luna last night when I saw that the XXXs were back in stock so I pulled the trigger on one since I wanted more of a mountain/mini bike even thought the R is tempting. $90 for some Shinko 241s w/ tax/shipping vs. a gearbox w/oil, heavier weight, and 1K more $.
Currently no aftermarket controllers will plug into the xxx I’m sure companies are working on it, but it doesn’t really matter because there aren’t any aftermarket batteries yet either… you’ll really enjoy the xxx!
Does the mx3 battery fit into the mx4? The reason I'm asking is because I'm wanting to use the Chi Battery Titan Touring 75ah battery on the mx4, but chi battery customer service wasn't sure if it would work with the mx4. They've only tested on the mx3. What are your thoughts on this? Thank you for doing what you do! I grabbed the mx4 after watching your videos on it ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Ok so here’s what I found out. I got a Sting R around the same time as you, and I’ve kept mine stock. There is loads of rear end rattle, and I found out it is the chain slapping around. I keep my chain at 1/2 - 1/4 in of slack and it reduced the noise but it’s still there. Maybe this is the issue with yours? If not let me know because I might wait for the KO controller.
Why not just put the rear shock that came stock on the mx4 back on? Nice vid as always love how informative you guys explain! Just got an mx4 last month and have been loving it!
We just wired them in and got a double switch, yes it works great and does give you more light! You do need to get creative on mounting them and wiring up and everything so its not for everyone.
On your bikes, every time you press the front suspension, does it return to its original position? I'm having problems with my fork not going all the way back what can i do?
Had that happen to mine as well. Tightened down the front fork when loading (about 4 inches) and it only returned about 1 inch after unloading it an hour or so later.
Do you mind if I ask what is your height?. I’m 5’11”, and I’m wondering how comfortable a stock sting r is for a tall/ish rider?. Do you think height upgrades are necessary, or optional?. Thanks in advance
I think being 5’11” is the perfect height. You probably don’t need to do a seat riser kit or a peg lower kit unless you feel it’s necessary. I would say that a 3in Risor bar would be a great upgrade to do and you would feel better standing up
If you get a smaller sprocket the bike will be able to go a little faster because the motor won’t reach the limit as fast. But it will take longer to get going faster because there is less torque.
@@Talariaboys yea I know it will decrease torque but I still don’t really understand how it would make it faster top speed if it’s still going to be hitting the rpm limit…
Depends on what kind of riding you want to do? On road I’d get xxx if your causally off-road and probably get xxx with dirt or dual sport tires, if you do big jumps I’d get mx3 but why not get Sting R mx4?
We actually do a ton of off-road trail riding and ride hard, the shock that blew up lasted almost 4000 miles which we feel is just fine for a cheap stock shock. The new Talaria sting R forks are much better than the older mx3 forks which we had, that was the DNM volcano which blew up really fast! We don’t hit massive jumps but we do ride a lot! Way more than we ever film actually.
@@Talariaboys I got the Talaria factory fork and shock. Trying to figure out if these things are gonna go out quick or not. Does basically any mtb fork and any rear mtb shock work on the Talaria Sting R?
@@Talariaboys When in ecomode, does that keep the top speed around that 30mph mark? In other terms, does that "simulate" as if having the governor on? Asking to see if that something i can do if riding on the street (even though in CA it is def not allowed). Trying to not make ppl totally mad.
That’s not true, when we started the channel we each owned a Talaria sting so that’s what we called it, we are not sponsored by Talaria and have no reason to make this bike out to be better than it is.
Great video, thanks! I have over 1000 miles on my 2 Talaria Sting R MX4's I bought in May 2023 from Luna Cycles. I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned. Mine have riser bars, direct mount stem, stem lock, footpegs, axle blocks, headlight (and switch), roller chain, Rippin Moto 250mm front brakes, Shimano pads, grips and custom seat covers. So about $1200 in upgrades from stock. I ride every day in all kinds of terrain, rain or shine. I routinely go 40 miles on a charge. I've already sold 2 other bikes because I don't ride them anymore. The MX4 is just that good! Mine have held up to lots of abuse and I get up each morning thinking about my next ride. Life is good!
Awesome!
An even newer model has already gone on sale in Russia: Talaria Sting TL4000 L1E
That’s the same thing as a Talaria Sting R, that’s just the international model number.
@@Talariaboys What month will the 2024 model arrive?
How many thousand kilometers will this electric bike travel before it falls apart?
After watching 1000 videos, I gathered my courage to comment. You are doing an excellent job, guys! Thank you for all the work and please keep making the videos, they are super useful and engaging! Because of you, I'm getting my Talaria Sting R in a few days!
Appreciate you watching and commenting! Enjoy your bike! It will be a blast!
@@Talariaboys do you knoW how to activate TURBO Mode ?
@@Talariaboys or they just love the bikes so much they made the channel about it
I have a 17 rear and 21 front. It absolutely rips with 72v 43ah nano. Never bottomed out in the rear. I run 12.5kw and its the perfect balance. So much smoother than my mx3. I have my nano perfectly dialed in. I think you need a batter battery.
You guys have the most professional reviews of anyone on TH-cam that I have watched over the past few weeks, really considering pulling the trigger on a talaria MX4 I'm an old guy at 70, used to motocross in the 70s, but would like to trail ride and put around town now,
these things look obviously extremely cool thank you for such thorough reviews I have learned an awful lot from watching them best to you guys Thanks for all the straightforward honest information you guys are the best!!, The old guy in north Idaho 😊
Hey man! Thanks for the message, we appreciate the kind words and hope you do end up getting a bike, they are an absolute blast!
I finally pulled the trigger yesterday boys! Now its just getting it and putting it together, Little nervous to do it on my own but im trying to gain the knowledge for when it comes.
You’ll be alright! Just follow some build videos and make sure you take the time to tighten every bolt on the bike to be safe!
Get a small torque wrench highly recommend torquing everything down and checking after every few rides
There is enough detail and pragmatic upgrade information in this video to satisfy this MX4 owner. Thank you, Talaria Boys! No one is uploading videos with better, more practical content than you guys. Keep it up, please!
That is a lot of great information for anyone starting out with a new or used Talaria!
4:38 There is a fix for rear wheel clearance. Seat riser. One of the best mods i have made. Highly recommend
We’ve tried one and didn’t like it, it messed with the handling way to much when riding off-road.
@@Talariaboys I personally like it. I'm only riding off road.
Much more comfortable to sit without feeling like my knees are in my chest, other option for that was lower pegs and lose clearance.
Much better standing, now if I squeeze the bike it's with my knees and not my lower legs... there is actually something there.
Allows for larger rear tire.
Will be able to fit a larger battery without changing, modifying, or raising (independently) the battery cover. Now it stays in line with the seat so I can get way forward if I need to and the lines of the bike stay the same, if you know what I mean.
Gives me a little more room under the battery cover and there's actually a void under the seat now for "accessories" if you want to add anything to your bike discreetly.
I will say the bike may look a little goofy with the riser and small wheels, but with a 21 in the front and 18 or 19 on the rear it looks like it was meant to be.
I guess I really like my seat riser...
It's all about what fits you and what you like.
I'm glad we're all different, life would be boring otherwise.
Keep ripping boys! Enjoy the videos and definitely jealous of the landscapes you have available to you. Here in New England it's tight, ROCKY, and mostly not legal.
I'm 5' 8", 32" inseam, 170lbs, in case anyone is curious.
No more camel hump if you're cruising a 72v! 19/16 or 21/18 would help even out that top heavy skwibbly feeling.
@@Talariaboys Hi dear, i have the TALARIA MX3 Street Legal (TL3000) and has this problem : after a little fall the speed indication on the Display shows the speed with little delay, i can start rolling 2-3 km/h but its shows 0 km/h after i get faster its start to shows the speed indication with delay, what can be the reason and how to fix that ?
Another insanely informative video, thank you so much 🏁
I'm on the wall about electric over gas bike. But your guys are definitely talking a great sale.
Just bought an mx4 comes in next Friday I’m hype
Sick!!!
She's a torque beast! Cut that wire and enjoy the ride my friend. Stoked for you just picked up mine a couple weeks ago and I love it!
@@ReignLowell-CaedoFaeda haha def the first thing I’m doing before I ride is cutting that wire, I own a motorcycle already but got the mx4 for the different type of riding it offers, def gonna be nice not having to sit at stop lights in the really hot weather
@@dmvbenz7536 Just be careful! Someone cut my $200 Kryptonite chain and stole my bike like 2 days ago! Only got it back cause I hid an Apple Airtag in there. It's a hot item for thieves since it doesn't have license plates and doesn't have to be registered.
4:50 just adjust your rear shock spring, that is what spring adjustment there for.
Adjusting the spring tighter doesn’t make your shock any longer to fix the geometry. The tire should not hit the seat frame before it bottoms the shock out even if the shock is set to soft. The shock should just bottom out.
New MX4 here, regen on mode 4 will skip the rear tire downhill on dirt like I'm grabbing the brake. I use it on tight trails and save rear brake life.
Yep they updated the regen and it works really well now!
How do you know you have the new model? Expect the regen.
@SuperCrafter1234 I think red piston caps on the brake calipers is the main giveaway. Black grips and there's a few other things. Try Googling for the list
@@markclark250 Thank you!
Love the content!! I am currently looking into getting my first one. How much you think a 2023 with 980 mile sting r is worth?
Naa, power and range is everything. I want 72v stock Talaria. Since, its all in-house, its better be much cheaper than the 3rd party 72v setup price.
That would be awesome!
Yes 72v 50 ah using 20sx10p LG M50LT so max power could be 12600 watts 150 A so plenty of power, top end speed and range. Price could be around 6k
Subbed and Liked months ago! Now a STING-R MX4 rider and seriously thinking about one more
or the Larry 3X. Nobody keeps up with me. All my police contact has been while going SLOW (lucky). Wish list for your channel} #1 Headlight upgrade must be Plug & Play also front and rear light Kill switch. #2 Pedal kit that will actually work and the 9deception) can be demonstrated in fron t of the Sherriff's request. Excellent content and y'all are becoming my go to for info.
Thanks for watching! Yes we are hoping to do some of those suggestions in the future! We are more just waiting on brands to come out with products haha
@@Talariaboys OUR night riding is compromised, also I need stealth to get to a few riding locations at night. Them once in LIGHT'em up! And PLEASE with a kill switch as in ALL lights oiut. Thanx TBoyZ!
How about a controller upgrade for the XXX? Will an R controller work on the XXX? I was torn between the Sting R & the XXX, and was playing around on Luna last night when I saw that the XXXs were back in stock so I pulled the trigger on one since I wanted more of a mountain/mini bike even thought the R is tempting. $90 for some Shinko 241s w/ tax/shipping vs. a gearbox w/oil, heavier weight, and 1K more $.
Currently no aftermarket controllers will plug into the xxx I’m sure companies are working on it, but it doesn’t really matter because there aren’t any aftermarket batteries yet either… you’ll really enjoy the xxx!
@@Talariaboys I have been, definitely a good buy.
Does the mx3 battery fit into the mx4?
The reason I'm asking is because I'm wanting to use the Chi Battery Titan Touring 75ah battery on the mx4, but chi battery customer service wasn't sure if it would work with the mx4. They've only tested on the mx3.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you for doing what you do!
I grabbed the mx4 after watching your videos on it
⚡️⚡️⚡️
Yes it fits!
I'm looking at one with 3k miles looks good how much do u think used it's worth???
Ok so here’s what I found out. I got a Sting R around the same time as you, and I’ve kept mine stock. There is loads of rear end rattle, and I found out it is the chain slapping around. I keep my chain at 1/2 - 1/4 in of slack and it reduced the noise but it’s still there. Maybe this is the issue with yours? If not let me know because I might wait for the KO controller.
How has the dorado fork worked out?
Thinking about the expert or the pro ss
its a good fork but it flexes under these heavy bikes. we use one on our talaria xxx
Awesome 1000-mile update.
Thanks 👍
Why not just put the rear shock that came stock on the mx4 back on? Nice vid as always love how informative you guys explain! Just got an mx4 last month and have been loving it!
Thanks for watching! Good idea but we put our stock mx4 shocks on our old sting mx3s to be sold so they are gone!
How did he hook up 2 Blinders on the red bike? Do they run at the same time? Would you recommend this set up??
We just wired them in and got a double switch, yes it works great and does give you more light! You do need to get creative on mounting them and wiring up and everything so its not for everyone.
What does a replacement battary cost , what kinda lifespan do they have?
Batteries last 1500-2000 charge cycles so they can last 50,000 plus miles so really no need to look at replacements.
Where can I order one? My bday is coming up end of the month and would love to have one ordered
Lunacycle.com
How can you tell if you have the fast ace or the factory fork? Mine does not have markings on it.
If it's not marked then its just stock forks talaria forks
Should be marked on right shock on bottom side if it was
All the sting R models from Luna have the factory fork but if you got it somewhere else you could have chosen the fast ace or factory.
@@Talariaboysthanks for the reply! I did order my bike from Luna cycles.
On your bikes, every time you press the front suspension, does it return to its original position? I'm having problems with my fork not going all the way back what can i do?
Had that happen to mine as well. Tightened down the front fork when loading (about 4 inches) and it only returned about 1 inch after unloading it an hour or so later.
Yes for the most part it should return back up!
Your forks are most likely misaligned.
Do you mind if I ask what is your height?. I’m 5’11”, and I’m wondering how comfortable a stock sting r is for a tall/ish rider?. Do you think height upgrades are necessary, or optional?. Thanks in advance
I think being 5’11” is the perfect height. You probably don’t need to do a seat riser kit or a peg lower kit unless you feel it’s necessary. I would say that a 3in Risor bar would be a great upgrade to do and you would feel better standing up
Wow, thanks for the quick reply. I appreciate the advice, and I really enjoy your content. Keep up the good work #subbed
My new sting r came with the original brakes
Probably varies based on the shipment
Yea we’ve noticed that some of the shipments are slightly different than others
I see Reeds bike have gearbox breather tube still clamped, is it ok to keep it like this?
No it’s not supposed to be clamped. I might have left it on accident.
What is reed topping out mph wise with the 48T? Sting R??
Probably around 48 -49 mph
I should be able to fabrication of rear sho k mount😊😊
Hey is there any point in trying to get a smaller tooth rear sprocket if the motor is just going to reach the rpm limit anyways? (XxX)
If you get a smaller sprocket the bike will be able to go a little faster because the motor won’t reach the limit as fast. But it will take longer to get going faster because there is less torque.
@@Talariaboys yea I know it will decrease torque but I still don’t really understand how it would make it faster top speed if it’s still going to be hitting the rpm limit…
Tires. Will a Shinco pro trail sr241 3.50-19 57p fit on the back of a Mx 4
No, the 3.5 inch wide is to big to fit. Get a 2.75 inch for the rear if you want that tire.
What do you think is better if im buying a bike? The X or the MX3?
Depends on what kind of riding you want to do? On road I’d get xxx if your causally off-road and probably get xxx with dirt or dual sport tires, if you do big jumps I’d get mx3 but why not get Sting R mx4?
@@Talariaboysgood analysis
How much tension do you guys keep on your chain?
It’s hard to say but we keep them pretty right, they aren’t super tight but they need to be tighter than a typical dirt bike.
You guys aren't doing any crazy jumps or trails how are you going thru forks and shocks??
We actually do a ton of off-road trail riding and ride hard, the shock that blew up lasted almost 4000 miles which we feel is just fine for a cheap stock shock. The new Talaria sting R forks are much better than the older mx3 forks which we had, that was the DNM volcano which blew up really fast! We don’t hit massive jumps but we do ride a lot! Way more than we ever film actually.
@@Talariaboys I got the Talaria factory fork and shock. Trying to figure out if these things are gonna go out quick or not. Does basically any mtb fork and any rear mtb shock work on the Talaria Sting R?
Do you guys remove the governor or leave it in?
Yes we always cut the wire
@@Talariaboys When in ecomode, does that keep the top speed around that 30mph mark? In other terms, does that "simulate" as if having the governor on? Asking to see if that something i can do if riding on the street (even though in CA it is def not allowed). Trying to not make ppl totally mad.
Yes with the wire cut and bike unlocked eco mode goes around 27-28 so very close to what your looking for
What are you guys running for air pressure?
Around 15-20 psi for off-road and a bite more when we Street ride
I'm about to clock 1k on my mx3. I can't wait till I can 72v it. Just waiting, got a kid on the way. But i literally dream about it lmao.
Nice! Keep putting on the miles, 72v is awesome but so is just having a bike in itself.
I just re-pinned the plugs shouldn't have to cut anything.
Best controller for talaria mx4?
Ebmx X-9000 hands down
Pretty sweet. We gotta head up to the dikes sometime.
hi
100th like!
buy a seat riser
Something tells me that a channel named, "Telaria Boys" isn't going to give a fair evaluation or unbiased opinion lmao.
That’s not true, when we started the channel we each owned a Talaria sting so that’s what we called it, we are not sponsored by Talaria and have no reason to make this bike out to be better than it is.
Yooo