You're doing great work here Feeble King...BUT, have you seen Paul Allen's new card?? Eggshell White with Helvetica print(!!) BTW: I got us reservations at Dorsia Friday night....you in?
In Dark Souls 2's defense, this is probably what it feels like to actually go hollow in real life so if you think about it really hard and then gaslight yourself it really is a storytelling masterpiece.
@@Yes_Indeed-w7tim on the opposite scale, in what way is dks 1 more optimistic there is like one npc who belives in good things. While everyone else who spouts about the good is lying or directly benifted from genocide grinding the poor into blighttown. Ahh yes these people. Its like why millionares are the only people who see the current statuse quo as totalty acceptable. In dls1 the fact you can beat everything the world doesnt really care, murdered every npc no one cares. The world only cares on if you let the fire die, if you let the terrible statuse que continue or if you let it die. Meanwhile dks2 has a more personal stake you are trying to avoid going hollow, even the emerald herald and a handful of NPCs like you and see your way forward. Helping you when they can. Vs like soliar one guy.
Miyazaki never intended you to play the game. The optimal Dark Souls experience is to sit in a pitch black room in silence, staring into the distance. This is the only true way to experience the Dark Soul(s).
"I really wanted to prove to myself that I could beat Blue Smelter Demon. But when every other boss is a Blue Smelter Demon, I just don't care anymore..." really spoke to me on a personal and spiritual level
@@OfficialMetalheadDS2 fans will pretend that everyone who doesn’t like the most mid and frankly easy souls game is secretly just really bad at it and they are the only ones smart enough and skilled enough to truly understand the masterpiece.
i love dark souls 2 but i can 100% understand why some people despise it it's just not everyone's type of game much like other dark souls games but in a different sense
@@OfficialMetalhead this is the easiest souls game of all time i first try most of the boss and it's still dog shit (played sotfs) the boss are boring they have like 4 moov (no hite first try aldia lol) the only hard part is boss run
He only uses ranged attacks after getting hit by his blue blade stab. It's really easy to avoid which is why players rarely see his ranged moves@@twelvevoltage
It's exactly like that godawful forest area in the Shaded Woods, where you can't see because everything is covered in blinding white fog, and those transparent ghost hunters constantly ambush you.
The difference is that the DS1 team recognized the problems with the maneaters and then updated the AI and gave them a wider area to fix said issues. On the other hand the DS2 team said ‘what if we just made them fight 3 instead of 2’
@@Etnad-f7r there's 5 of them, but they're smaller and have very little health. DS2 gargoyles isn't too difficult for someone prepared, even a new player. I think the dislike for that boss came from the belfry luna being an invasion hotspot, making it a headache to reach them each time.
You don't actually need a bonfire ascetic to make enemies respawn. Joining the company of champions by the statue in Majula makes (most) enemies infinitely respawn, as in other souls games. Though it does makes enemies tougher as well, so you could abandon the covenant when done farming, if you'd prefer.
@@blah3189 well if you watch the video.. homie straight up complains about the Rotten boss run. Spoiler alert: there is no such thing. The Rotten’s bonfire is right next to his fog wall. Had this bonfire not existed it would have been a valid complaint
@Toast there was alot of things wrong with his criticisms because he didn't know much about the game and the strats people use. He doesn't even know about the ancient dragon's toe cheese strat which completely nullifies the challenge of the fight.
@@carlosgonzalezfernandez3806 maybe im misremembering, do you not need int so the dark guy will talk to you? Edit: nevermind i was confused with tge dark caster guy. I also learned that grandahl never talks to me because i have to find him 3 times, something i completely overlooked since back then
I beat this scholar of the first sin when I was in 7th grade with a bad build, it was my first souls game. and now I'm playing it again as a freshmen in college with every fromsoft game under my belt and more build knowledge and somehow its harder. I love your videos man. give me more.
I think its because Dark Souls 1 is...actually just not very hard. It's like a less forgiving Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. I think it was only treated as 'hard' as it came out in an era of outstandingly easy games when every company was pushing maximizing accessibility and the (frankly easy) Legendary modes of the Halo games were considered 'extremely hard' (discounting Halo 2's jackal alley. That one is just hard. Unfun and hard.) But more Dark Souls 1 doesn't play like any of the others. All of the other dark souls didn't seem to design themselves around PUNISHING you for rushing past enemies, trying hard to force you to take things slowly and methodically, (despite actually being... a lot 'faster' than DS1?) DS2 also does things that none of the others do to a very large degree. I.E. Weapon Sweet spots matter hugely and assuming you don't have high adaptability, you need to think about the actual animation your character does. (this is why dodging to the side is often a bad move, as your legs stay WAY OUT for a long while, and a lot of the famous 'bad hitboxes' of DS2 are more, your s start differently and end before the animation is close to done, often meaning your toes are touching a sword blade.) Like, Dark Souls 2 is the easiest of the Dark Souls games overall, I think, because if you take it slowly, calmly, and know how to build, you'll do really well. Also, my original DS2 build, and part of why I'm so partial to the game was "I am going to use nothing but two handed crossbows. And Not use a repeater." It worked and it wasn't even painful. I even carried people through some bosses by just having a all adaptability, all stamina, all health char with only minimum stats for a sidearm (shortsword) and a light crossbow, and...nothing else. The whole game.
@@WereScrib You can run from everything in DS1, but what's intended is killing everything, but that dosen't mean you have to kill 30 enemies while archers and mages spamming from unreachable places that end up feeling like im playing Touhou instead of an Souls game.. There the encounters are designed so each one is intended (ignore the line of capra and taurus demons, and dragon asses, and dukes archives gets spammy like this but at least you can run). Using Crossbows is cool sometimes, but being forced to use it because of how with anything else that isn't magic gets you killed, it's not fun.
@@anstorner ...Dark Souls 2 is not easiest with crossbows or ranged weapons, TBH its probably easiest with straight swords like most souls games. Dark Souls 2 is just not a hard game in the slightest. I've beaten it with pure hand to hand, bows, crossbows, scythes, halberds, weird mixed builds, magic, etc. Nothing in the game forces you to use ranged options and while range is actually useful in it unlike most other souls games, it's not particularly advantageous. It's just more of a focus around dodging, positioning, and resource management.
@@WereScrib Shrine of Amana and Iron Keep does try to force you, unless you want to spend over 20 minutes dragging every single enemy away so every hypothetical mage and archers dont spam at you while doing so. Which i did, but i had fun doing it specially NG +2 with red phantoms everywhere?, No. Then later on i got an Magic build and the game was so easy that i was hollowing away of the boredom during NG+1 in both places.
34:53 Very few people understand this attack, but Fume knight is actually hitting you with his right hand there. He does that simultaneously to the sword stab, so that distracts the player from seeing what's in their face
Its because he has hit boxes running up all the way to his shoulders that are so much disproportionately larger than the model You'd be forgiven for mistaking them as SpongeBob's Anchor Arms if they were ever visually enabled. This is incongruous with the rest of the series where the hit boxes are isolated to the weapon specifically and are shaved down to be almost perfectly to scale with the weapon model itself.
The worst thing about the lack of adaptability is that every other stat is optional if you are skilled enough, and the lack of them makes the game more hard as time goes on. For example: Health. Enemies do more and more damage so without leveling health you need to dodge better and more and not get comboed Endurance: enemies do longer combos as the time goes on, so you will have to manage stamina better and better int faith strenght dex: enemies get more health so you need this stats to beat them faster equip load: you need better armor cause the enemies do more poise damage (usually) Adaptability doesn't work that way. Different enemies and bosses need more or less adp to rol through their attacks completely not based on how far they are in the game. For example I had much less problem with fume knight on my sl1 than with regular smelter demon because fume knights attacks dont need that much adp cause they are faster, but smelter demon attacks slower and you need more s to dodge it, on sl1 you need to be frame perfect nearly
@castor Personally, I'm very mixed on ADP as a stat. For a positive, I think that being able to control how effective your roll is means that we can be as OP or as underpowered as we want to be. My biggest complaint is a lack of explanation given for the stat, and therefore making new players feel like it's resistance from DS1. If they had explained it at all, then I don't think it would be nearly as frowned upon.
or just get 20 str get a great shield and block instead of using ADP to dodge and you'll even spend less stamina doing that. Or get 16 str and higher vit and wear heavy armor and offset your bad rolls with mukbanging lifegems in heavy armor. Or increase Dex or int and and use range to minimise amount of being upclose to enemy. Or increase faith and cast some regenerating spells to offset damage taking. Like you have a choice like RPG games do, you know
even though the gargoyles are just a rehashed boss, i still like it from the perspective that two different encounters across two games implies that the gargoyles are creatures that exist all over the place as a fairly developed species instead of just an exclusive enemy.
The Prowling Magus boss is the equivalent of putting a health bar on the channeller and hollows in the undead parish and calling that a boss. It's just embarrassing.
Feeble, I have to admit, your the only ytuber that could make 3 videos about ds2 in 2023 and everyone is very entertaining and your creativity and sense of humor is what I love about your vids. Keep em coming, you will eventually blow up if you stick with it. And thanks for all the suffering you do to make these vids, ds2 level 1 run, your a true masochist and must love to torture yourself for all our viewing enjoyment. 👍👑
@@ramrodbldm9876 if you think giving props where it's due is some sort of homo thing, than you must not be very confident in your manhood and I love how you would never say that to anyone's face. A real man don't talk smack behind a keyboard cause they know they will never get the chance to put hands to them so it's not worth it. I'm laying right next to my chik playing PS5 while she's butt naked waiting for me to pipe her while your probably sitting at your mom's house playing games and planning on hitting a lick and going to bed. Grow up boy, take this advice and learn something from it. Positive vibes make good things come your way. Your obviously not happy with yourself or you wouldn't have written a cringe reply like that. Have some pride about yourself. Man up. I'm out, this thang thang calling me. Peace.
I have just started a Dark souls 2 "Adaptability level only run", its basically this same run but with ds3 dodge frames and animations. So its just the sane and fun version of this.
That sounds like it would actually be more fun. On the other hand, seeing a level higher than 1 on my character screen is enough of a dealbreaker that I’ll intentionally diminish my enjoyment of the game for the sake of the challenge run.
Part of the reason why so many hitboxes feel so bad is the developers put hitboxes on things other than the weapon. For example, Fume has hitboxes on his legs and arms depending on the attack, so if you're standing on the opposite side of an attack but you just happen to be a little too close to an arm that isn't even holding a weapon, guess who just got hit?
Which on its own, isn't the worst idea, yet for some reason getting elbowed does the same damage as the sword even at the end of the attack which is just.. aggravating
You're gonna hate hearing this, but... You made the game harder on yourself. You can get the Ice Rapier at SL1. As long as you use the Work Hook you can use it, and it would have trivialized Blue Smelter since you can blast him out of range of his fire aura.
@agostonbazmajer1100 Never said I was a DS2 fan; it's my least favorite Souls game. I only know about the Ice Rapier because before the superior DS3 arrived, I used to SL1 invade with that weapon and the ring that stopped soul acquisition (Soul Memory tiers is the worst mechanic). Just thought I would inform him he could have made the game slightly more palatable during his run.
The hardest boss on sl1 in ds2 (in my opinion) is blue smelter demon. This boss shows all the wrong things about the ds2 mechanics: 1. you need to be frame perfect nearly with your dodges with blue smelter demon with low adaptability (assuming you have adp boosting gear) without it good luck. 2. The passive damage was extremely painful cause it would make me have to heal with lifegems, cause normally he would do 80% of my health with a single hit. and the drain would put me in oneshot territory every 10 seconds. (with low adp its extremely bad) 3. the mechanic of human effigies and your max health draining made this fight even worse cause I had to farm human effigies every 2 fights. It took me 50 tries to beat him sl1. Later on my normal run i beat him without taking a hit. Because I had s
Just soloed him on NG+7 CoC. On NG he's a piece of cake if you stack magic defense. He starts by buffing his sword and as the fight gets longer he eventually ONLY deals magic damage. So a one shot (physical) in the early stages is just a fraction of that when he deals magic (and you have the gear to handle it). Also, if you try to roll as a reflex you'll get hit, he can adjust his delayed attacks at will, and on the fly. You need to watch how he moves, and contrary to Fire Smelter Demon, this one is better dealt with while locked off. All in all, a superb fight if someone has the patience to observe the differences with the Vanilla Demon. Also, beating Burnt Ivory King lets you use King's Crown to its full potential,no more hollowing/effigies. (Tho on NG+7 CoC that didn't made any difference 😂) On SL1 tho it was the only fight I had to summon, although i didn't know how to approach his moveset back then.
Honestly, in terms of runbacks, the Burnt Ivory King has arguably the worst "runback" in the game. It takes no less than 5 minutes to kill all his stupid guards and seal the gates, and everytime you die, you gotta do that BS all over again. At least with the COTD, or the Iron Passage or MOTOIK the runbacks are 45 seconds at worst.@@Jimmyvdpost
@@alito8798 Only handful of them. Only main bosses, but some lose a bit since you fight their weaker versions earlier. So most of the bosses of elden ring are either crap or you have so enough of them.
@@michasokoowski6651 legit 90% of Elden Ring bosses are exceptional, if there weren’t copy’s of almost each one i’m sure we’d look at them very differently.
Try to watch "The worst hitbox ever" of Fume Knight closely - he's hitting you with his free hand, not his sword. Great video! It was a pleasure to watch it!
Why should a free hand deal damage? That’s still terrible design, only intentional instead of accidental. If they’re going to do that, they might as well make the walking animations deal damage as well.
You can also get enemies to spawn after reaching the respawn limit by joining the Covenant of Champions. When you're done, just go to Shalquoir to leave the covenant.
pretty fun to watch your run! I'm surprised people have so much hate for this game cause I always loved DS2.. the gimmicky bosses remind me alot of Demon Souls, getting there is the hard part. Shrine of Amana encapsulates it perfectly. unlike other DS games there are no stand out boss fights, except Elana and that was only because the first time I fought her I was already in NG+.
i don't understand how executioners chariot would at level 1 would be bad, just use the chariot to kill the skeletons and be patient taking down the necromancers.
Yay that spot were you have to drop where the giants are and I think 1 of the dudes to get to dark lurkers down there but I can't remember but finding that without a guide is almost impossible, even messages seem like tricks cause it's so dark and just doesn't look like it's possible. At least feeble makes mistakes sometimes but that proves that he doesn't just Google stuff and get strats that way, he must go in blind which is pretty cool.
@@BaxBoogey22 you don’t need to drop down at all. Walk along the edge until you find a stone dude blocking a cave, use branch of yore and there’s your bonfire. The drops are only for dlc, lucatiel, and hex guy/darklurker Also no, he googled a build. No way he just knew about the Vessel shield and the chain ring hidden in the DLC, he even comments on this when he grabs the shield saying his build is complete
@@ToastUrbath really you don't have to drop down in that dark a spot to get there like I knew you can get to the bonfire but I know like right when you come in the level with all them poison statues to the right where you would never look it's so dark like there's a little tiny legs you can drop down and on to get to them two big ass Giants they're harder than anybody else in the game but yeah I didn't know you could just get there by using a fragrant branch of yore I thought that just took you to the bonfire I didn't know it would take you to that cave also but yeah if he did use a guide Idon't blame him I can't imagine doing a level-one run with no I frames that would be horrible he gets a lot of stuff wrong but his sense of humor makes up for it so I don't care he's just funny I think dark souls 2 is a lot better than people say at least it was creative and tried to do stuff different even if everything didn't work out but you know it's actually got some decent mechanics the people don't like but their mechanics to actually challenged you more and the pvp was awesome one time I was AFK and I came back and somebody'd casted all these crazy spells all over my character they were to making all these colors they put a bunch of prism Stones down and they dropped me like six effigies, it was cool as fuck. I'll never forget it.
Part of the problem I'm seeing here is the hitboxes aren't always to blame, its that DS2 has a weird habit of having you receive damage late. And with low adaptability, the actual animations in rolls become MUCH more problematic. (Your tows stretched WAY OUT during the roll often mean your hitbox is present longer by rolling than just...walking to the side.) Also the reason the poison breath hit you from behind is it bounces off walls. A few attacks like that work that was in DS2. They interact with terrain. Also I think I figured out why people like or dislike Dark Souls 2. It comes down to: Do you enjoy bosses or do you enjoy playing the general game with mobs more? Dark Souls 1 feels like a balanced experience where bosses and the world matter equally. Dark Souls 2's world and general 'road through' a level is the entire experience and bosses are just caps at the end of areas. And DS3 has zones that are utterly forgettable and exist to ensure you don't get sick of boss rushes cos that's its own genre.
That explains why I like DS1 less. DS3 does bosses better and DS2 does levels better, so really the only thing that DS1 did better was the interconnectedness. Now, I love DS1. Just slightly less then the other two
@@elk3407 I agree, with Ds2 the areas themselves feel like challenges to overcome, whereas with the other two they feel more like preludes/accompaniments to the boss
@@elk3407see- THATS the kind of analysis on DS1 that I can get behind. It’s a classic for sure but DS1 dick riders act like DS2 is an irredeemable pile of shit and it’s just not true. Every time Feeble brought up Quelaag my eyes rolled- it’s like, “how could I not see it before? They’re obviously copying Quelaag and yet NOT copying her at the same time, and so DS2 is both original and unoriginal at the same time! This game bad!” Like holy shit guys, there’s 48 bosses. The Lord Souls are the first half of gameplay, there’s more to this game, give it a damn chance
I dunno. I liked the Undead Settlement and Irythil Dungeon more than any zone in DS2, and Archdragon Peak is close to the best in DS2. And, if I had to pick one, Farron Keep is probably my favorite poison swamp, if such a thing could be said to exist.
Finally, this is what this game was meant to convey. Dark souls 2 is all about the world wanting to give up, nothing is making you complete the game. but do you still continue? the essence and philosophy of ds2, masterfully conveyed using the boring and slow gameplay,
Dark Souls 1 conveyed this exact same message, but ultimately did it in a reasonably fair and balanced manner with regards to leveling up stats, upgrading your equipment, and exploring to find new items. Dark Souls 2 is just completely cheap and unfair, and every mechanic and feature in it was intentionally designed to screw you over as much as possible.
You can say the exact same thing about any game in the trilogy though. Ds1 and even Ds3. First you prolong the age of fire until the world cannot be saved in the end anyway. Basically anything you do is pointless
This videi was so much fun to watch, amazing editing, storytelling, character development and analysis, my friend. It was also very sad to, but just because it was really envolving, cheers!
Fume Knight and Sir Allone were my favorite two bosses. I also liked the continuously upgrading Pursuers. That said, I had to take the most insane grinding strategy to actually beat this game and I can’t imagine trying a level 1 run.
A year ago I put thumb up on this video, but now when I completed this run myself (in SotFS) I'm not so sure. 1) I realized that most of the run you don't even need ADP. Base i-frames are enough if your rolls have precise timing. Or you simply move your character out of hitboxes without i-framing it. Like Smelter's overhead slash, just strafe sideways and then roll. But sometimes it's shitty, yes. In case of the Lost sinner you simply stick to her so she won't use her stab attack with absurd tracking. 2) You shouldn't have limited youself. As I see most of the time you used a mace, ring of blades and no armor\peasant set. I used dagger (lightning) - good dps but low stamina consumption, broadsword (dark) - the best thing, axe (fire) for more damage, and light crossbow (raw) to make some parts easier (Shrne of Amana easy 1st try). I also had mace for some pure blunt damage. Also poisoned knifes for some NPCs. I used dragon rings, Gundyr ring (you know what I mean) and life ring for more health and stamina. Armor to get a bit more surviveability. And of course, the brightbugs and mushrooms. 3) You should have embraced the despawn. I turned on some cool music, summon NPC dudes and in for about an hour I cleared the road to Alonne.
About the executioner chariot, I can't confirm, but I think the attack bounced on the wall, the black flames from the horse looks similar to the Iron king fire breath, so I think they have similar physics, since the fire breath can hit the wall in a angle and change direction(but in this case it helps you since the flames don't get in the area close to the exit)
It makes sense why you wouldn’t fight darklurker at lvl 1, but you should definitely fight them at some point if you haven’t because it is a top 3 boss in the game and very fun to learn in my opinion.
It's so refreshing watching these videos. For so long now there's been this rhetoric going around that "dark souls 2 is actually a really good game that was so misunderstood at the time when it came out." But no, that's wrong. This game is awful. And you get it. It's so nice seeing you get it
No sorry bud it's actually people finally saying "yeah the games good" and people that have a body pillow of miazaki can't stand that people enjoy something he didn't make Yes ds2 is the prolly the worst from game It still has tbe best fashion, build variety, atmosphere (that's very subjective tho) and ng+ The other games are pure gold, ds2 is silver. Not bad at all especially compared to other franchises but falls short of its brethren because it was trying new stuff
The thing I hate the most about this game is the absolute abysmal durability of all your weapons and other equipment. It's all so extremely brittle, so you can only get a very short use out of them before you're forced to rest back at a bonfire to automatically restore them before they completely break. This actually makes fighting other enemies on the way to a boss a liability, because your weapon could completely break before you manage to kill the boss, in which case you're totally screwed.
i can't lie, seeing someone else rant about ds2 again makes me happy lmao. i've been seeing too many people talk about how ds2 is perfect and the best souls game ever
No one says that? Sorry people admit that this game isn't actually that bad (and is pretty good by comparison to alot of other games) because SHOCKINGLY when every game from touches is gold, the only one that's silver isn't as amazing
@@brendandonohue2398 i'm sorry but i don't care about your experiences lmao. i said that i see too many people who call it perfect, doesn't matter what you see
@@Tulip_bip I mean fair enough? I'm just saying as someone who's been a from fan since demon souls I have never seen anyone call ds2 perfect :/ But in the end, neither of our experiences matter I guess? Or does only your experience matter? Lmao Also I hate to be "that guy" but saying "don't care lmao" is generally pretty clear proof you don't have much to really say ;) besides just spouting "ds2 bad" over and over
@@brendandonohue2398 it's an anecdote, of course it doesn't matter. idk why you think i need to have a point. i don't like ds2 and i was sick of seeing people who think it's perfect, so i'm glad this video exists. that's literally it
I think its funny that the gargolyes in ds2 are viewed as a ds1 rip off and are bad/worse because of that, but ds1 gargolyes are ripped from demon souls and nobody minds 😂
For the alonne run, killing the first knight and the salamander above the drop helps. The second room requires git gud. Large club is a godsend for the charred knights before burnt ivory king. You just need to respec your equipment before the king. Steel protection and spell quartz helps with learning his move set. I was annoyed that the knights were harder than the ivory king himself ahaha. And blue smelter demon is truly pretty toxic
PS3/360 scholar of the first sin was the better experience, witch is literally the vanilla game, with 3 dlc's and a new ending. No enemy reallocation, and no stupid fragment branch every corner. The only thing that I missed in PS3's SotFS was the Forlon, that doesn't exist in this version.
Just in case no one pointed it out. When the horses nasty breath hit you because it bounced off the wall. For more examples of this type of thing see elden ring :). Some projectiles like fire or fog like attacks have pretty much always done this. Get to close to the wall while fighting bayle? Well now hos fire can hit that wall and bounce back to burn your butt.
If I were to give Covetous Demon AKA Jabba the Hutt his own tier, I'd give it H tier for Hilarious. That boss just makes me crack up, his lore, his movements, all hysterical to me.
As someone who holds DS2 as his favorite in the series... I can't stop watching, laughing, and enjoying your differing opinions. You have a true passion for hating one of my favorite games and it is that pure distaste mixed with wit that is truly admirable.
Btw you dont need to use a ascetic to respawn the peasents for your farm you can just join covenent of champions to make the respawns infinite at the cost of making them a bit stronger so abandon it before you fight a boss
I'll be the first to admit that DS2 has some janky hitboxes. They give a lot of boss power attacks a shockwave aoe that's hard to see/predict and that doesn't feel fair. But at 35:00 you just got backhanded upside the face with his open right hand
I agree with you on so much. The Fume Knight is the best boss and the SL1 run is awful. As always, a super entertaining video. Good luck on the Bloodborne DLC bosses, you'll need it. Spam those Beast Pellets.
Also! if you put a caestus in the main hand while powerstancing fist in offhand, you still get good damage from the Seal but have a much faster power stance attack from the Caestus
@@arturkey9084 That would be a good comparison if I said "Aside from the community view, what do you actually dislike about the Ds2 (Adaptability, boss runs and soul memory don't count lol)"
Sir Alonne is an excelent example why DS2 is fucking atrocious. No matter is the boss is cool or challenging in the right way, if EVERYTHING around him is god-awful. The joke would be to write DS2 was done by the B-team of FromSoftware, but it's not a joke that is the case and it shows
I love Aava, i've played that fight a million times 😁 something that would make things a little faster is how you react to his spell move: if you sprint directly behind him as soon as he starts doing it, the magic spears can't reach you and you're starting out back closer, with another opportunity to do damage
I rage quit the blue smelter demon on a fully leveled character many years ago and have not gone back to it ever since. That's how much it pissed me off. The fact that you beat it level 1 is trully a testament to your mental strength. Congrats my dude!
I actually had the most amount of fun with SL1 in DS2. all of the different stat boosting equipment, incasing and just weird usually useless items like the Dark Pyromancy flame and Work Hook suddenly become invaluable. I think it took me about 2 or 3 hours to get Throne Watcher and Defender. Never did the DLCs tho, fuck that lmao. I like playing DS2 with 0 ADP but getting one shotted by every enemy is something I don't have the patience for, especially shit like the runback to Sir Alonne.
I did a run with no weapons(used Vanquisher's seal) and no armors, I didn't level ADP because at that point I didn't knew ADP was a thing(they put ADP as RES on my language and I thought it was resistência(resistance), and didn't pay attention to it), still was a fun experience. ...Worst part is that 2 years later I decided to check the stats names and look for the ADP that everyone was talking about, and RES was actually adaptabilidade(Adaptability), so ADP was still a valid abbreviation and they changed to RES for no reason.
you really need to try out the dlcs, they have the best content, just remember that you don't have to fight everything on the way to a boss, sir alonne you can just run to with planned dodges and an optimal route.
@@Ghorda9 I know, when I played with magic my AGL was OK because I usually put the 75 ATN for the 10 spell slots and got a good amount of AGL even with the base ADP, but for str or dex build both ADP and ATN was at base, so I did need to learn the timing for dodging, Fume knight was the most memorable one when I did the run on Vanquisher's Seal and no armor.
My first playthrough, I wasnt aware that adaptability was tied to i frames. It made almost every boss awful. I only think there are 4 bosses that are higher than 6/10 and they are sin, burnt ivory king, fume knight, and alonne. Even though sin and ivory king are my favorites, they are A tier at a max because of the shit hitboxes. Trust me when I say that darklurker fucking sucks. One of the worst runbacks in the series, awful hitboxes, little to no time to heal, and they squeezed two high damaging enemies in a tiny room. I dont understand why people like it, way worse than pontiff.
DS2 was my first souls game. I died to last giant, a lot (like ten times), I've had 40 tries on bootleg Ornstein, trrifying 70-ish on Pursuer, and the Absolute, nonbeatable record for me - more than one hundred tries on Vendrick (I didn't know about the giant souls thing), I beated him by leveling stat connected to endurance to 90 and blocking his 3-hit combo.
Tbf I never had many problems with the Sir Alonne boss run, for two reasons: 1 - I treated the run itself with respect. I didn't try just running away from everything. I took my time, meticulously killing every enemy. It was fun! 2 - If I died during the run, I could just come back and kill them more, get my souls and level up. Rince and repeat until the boss run is empty and I myself am stronger for it.
this is the most soulsborne video ever made. You can see the madness affect the player as the game goes on. One could even say DkS2 is the most Souls game because it makes us want to go hollow in real life just to stop playing.
I stopped this run after I beat Sinh - one of the best fights took about five attempts and I felt nowhere near the satisfaction I did playing DS3 level 1. I couldn't quite explain it, but I took it as a sign that the run wasn't worth my investment. Looking back, I guess it's because none of the fights are challenging enough to feel like a worthy challenge, and anything hard about them usually involves DS2's shitboxes.
Currently replaying DS2 right now, I think the executioners horse spray attack aims for the player no matter where they’re at, and this is the same with any other enemy and boss attack that’s ranged, they track you. For instance the imperfect, their ranged attack will literally follow you from left to right if you try to dodge it, you need to roll into it or sprint several feet to your side, which it will still track you and explode by you, and that attacks hit box is ridiculous. I don’t care how high your ADP is, if you’re in a (in game) 10-15 radius of that projectile, you’re getting hit unless you roll into it and let it explode behind you. It also clips through obstacles, like we can’t shoot from around the corner because of the walls hit box being more than an inch out from the wall/columb/door, etc… but enemie projectiles can go through those hit boxes, and arrows track you as well in this game. It’s really fucked because the tracking for us is shit, you every try to use a greatsword in that fucking game? You’re missing your target 4/10 times, easily. You need to be directly in front of them if your greatsword has an overhead slice. There’s a lot of wonky enemy and boss advantages against us, which tells me that they made this game to be hard, flat out. They didn’t want this game to be fun, they wanted us to think it was the hardest thing ever and they could only do that by giving enemies and bosses more advantages than we get
Damn it’s almost like it’s a sequel to video game devoted to being tough but fair and this sequel went out of its way to be as unfair and annoying as possible. Oh wait, that’s exactly what happened. ;)
A redeeming quality about The Persuer is how you can use the ballistas to shoot him, but if you stay far for too long he'll use a projectile attack against you, which can destroy the ballistas if you're too slow.
Sir alonne's boss run suck but you refuse to learn enemies movement pattern. You refuse to figure out a consistent path to the boss and instead keep bumping your head into a wall until it works out. You hate sir alonne because of your own skill issue
You don't have to run straight for the Giant Lord right after the statue head rolls by, you can wait for a few seconds for the smoke to dissipate or use the smoke screen as a buff period before going in to the fight. It honestly seems like more often than not you're making this more difficult for yourself and complaining about it.
Yeah he showed he didn’t get at least two close to the fog gate bonfires when complaining about Rotten and not-Medusa boss runs and showed footage of stuff you wouldn’t have to ever do. The NpC invasions in Rotten in Scholar are the only real annoyance there.
hmm...DS2 hitboxes are AIDS and cancer combined with syphilis, yet in ER where enemies hit the ground in front of them and you get tagged by some delayed aftershock on the other side of the arena is 100/10. got it. DS3 and ER enemies changing orientation mid-swing is okay. got it. Half of the enemies in ER being reskins of DS3 (or even DS1) enemies and AI is 1000/10. got it. DS3 and ER enemies playing Bloodborne while the player is playing DS3 is just fine. got it. Gank squads in DS2 is bad, but gank squads in DS3 and (especially) ER is good. got it. NONE of FromSoft's titles are without major and more than likely repeated flaws. They have only become more adept at hiding their obvious limitations in flashy effects and speed.
the thing is that ds2 has all of those weaknesses (but worse) and 1/10th of the strengths , ds2 boss hitboxes are not intentional, they are just bad, if you dont like the bosses tracking you in ER and Ds3 either git gud, or stay mad that you cant beat every boss by circle strafing like ds2
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Sigma run
Not to me? D:
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You're doing great work here Feeble King...BUT, have you seen Paul Allen's new card?? Eggshell White with Helvetica print(!!) BTW: I got us reservations at Dorsia Friday night....you in?
"Hey smelter demon" best line ever
In Dark Souls 2's defense, this is probably what it feels like to actually go hollow in real life so if you think about it really hard and then gaslight yourself it really is a storytelling masterpiece.
If the fanbase is anything to go by then self gaslighting is an incredibly major part of the DS2 experience.
@@jacobnorris8256I can't gaslight myself when the game is the opposite narratively to Ds1. I took Ds2 as nihilistic while Ds1 is Optimistic
Dark souls 2 fans giving themselves schizophrenia to hallucinate a world where ds2 is good:
@@Yes_Indeed-w7tI thought that DS1 was more depressing than DS2
@@Yes_Indeed-w7tim on the opposite scale, in what way is dks 1 more optimistic there is like one npc who belives in good things. While everyone else who spouts about the good is lying or directly benifted from genocide grinding the poor into blighttown. Ahh yes these people. Its like why millionares are the only people who see the current statuse quo as totalty acceptable. In dls1 the fact you can beat everything the world doesnt really care, murdered every npc no one cares. The world only cares on if you let the fire die, if you let the terrible statuse que continue or if you let it die.
Meanwhile dks2 has a more personal stake you are trying to avoid going hollow, even the emerald herald and a handful of NPCs like you and see your way forward. Helping you when they can. Vs like soliar one guy.
Miyazaki never intended you to play the game. The optimal Dark Souls experience is to sit in a pitch black room in silence, staring into the distance. This is the only true way to experience the Dark Soul(s).
Miyazaki had little to nothing to do with this game lol. He was on Bloodborne.
"I really wanted to prove to myself that I could beat Blue Smelter Demon. But when every other boss is a Blue Smelter Demon, I just don't care anymore..." really spoke to me on a personal and spiritual level
Blue Smelter Demon made me hate cool ranch. The fight is actual cancer
Its crazy how people will suck at the game and then make a hate video out of frustration lmfao
@@OfficialMetalheadDS2 fans will pretend that everyone who doesn’t like the most mid and frankly easy souls game is secretly just really bad at it and they are the only ones smart enough and skilled enough to truly understand the masterpiece.
i love dark souls 2 but i can 100% understand why some people despise it it's just not everyone's type of game much like other dark souls games but in a different sense
@@OfficialMetalhead this is the easiest souls game of all time i first try most of the boss and it's still dog shit (played sotfs) the boss are boring they have like 4 moov (no hite first try aldia lol) the only hard part is boss run
Pursuer has like 7 other attacks that you rarely get to see, because for some reason his senile ai only wants to dash forward at you
No it's position based but when 99% of players use boring big bonk sniffing the boss ass the mid ranged to long range attacks never come out
@@victorprati7908they never come out bc bro always dashes lol. I've seen one ranged attack from him in 300 hours of ds2
He only uses ranged attacks after getting hit by his blue blade stab. It's really easy to avoid which is why players rarely see his ranged moves@@twelvevoltage
False@@victorprati7908
@@lucasimmons075 Really? Are you sure? 99% haters of ds2 have an issue with that attack XD
"It feels like I'm fighting the Assassin's Creed loading screen." I loved this
It's exactly like that godawful forest area in the Shaded Woods, where you can't see because everything is covered in blinding white fog, and those transparent ghost hunters constantly ambush you.
@@NexusKin Yes 😭
no man hates dark souls 2 more than you, but no man has played dark souls 2 more than you
Tell that to otzdarva
I really don’t think that’s true at all
He thinks dark souls 2 is fine actually pretty good as long as it isn’t the scholar of the first sin version
What a fate
@@johnconnor8206 Vanilla at a normal level is an alright game. At level 1 both games are pure torture, although Scholar is still worse.
making fun of the gargoyles saying they're copied from Ds1 when the Ds1 gargoyles are copied from demon's souls
Yea but maneaters are stupid
finally someone based
The difference is that the DS1 team recognized the problems with the maneaters and then updated the AI and gave them a wider area to fix said issues.
On the other hand the DS2 team said ‘what if we just made them fight 3 instead of 2’
@@Etnad-f7r there's 5 of them, but they're smaller and have very little health. DS2 gargoyles isn't too difficult for someone prepared, even a new player. I think the dislike for that boss came from the belfry luna being an invasion hotspot, making it a headache to reach them each time.
@@therealhecatonchires ‘ there’s 5 of them.’ That’s even worse
You don't actually need a bonfire ascetic to make enemies respawn. Joining the company of champions by the statue in Majula makes (most) enemies infinitely respawn, as in other souls games. Though it does makes enemies tougher as well, so you could abandon the covenant when done farming, if you'd prefer.
I wish I knew this
@@feebleking21how do you not?
@@blah3189 well if you watch the video.. homie straight up complains about the Rotten boss run. Spoiler alert: there is no such thing. The Rotten’s bonfire is right next to his fog wall. Had this bonfire not existed it would have been a valid complaint
@Toast there was alot of things wrong with his criticisms because he didn't know much about the game and the strats people use. He doesn't even know about the ancient dragon's toe cheese strat which completely nullifies the challenge of the fight.
@@luxiken6719 imagine actually searching up cheeses for a boss. He did the right thing.
My boys alonne and darklurker were done dirty by the devs
By hiding away the best fights as optional side bosses? I agree. Darklurkers requiring int always makes me skip it
@@unsubme2157 It doesnt require int, even worse It require humanity
@@carlosgonzalezfernandez3806 maybe im misremembering, do you not need int so the dark guy will talk to you?
Edit: nevermind i was confused with tge dark caster guy. I also learned that grandahl never talks to me because i have to find him 3 times, something i completely overlooked since back then
I beat this scholar of the first sin when I was in 7th grade with a bad build, it was my first souls game. and now I'm playing it again as a freshmen in college with every fromsoft game under my belt and more build knowledge and somehow its harder. I love your videos man. give me more.
I think its because Dark Souls 1 is...actually just not very hard. It's like a less forgiving Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. I think it was only treated as 'hard' as it came out in an era of outstandingly easy games when every company was pushing maximizing accessibility and the (frankly easy) Legendary modes of the Halo games were considered 'extremely hard' (discounting Halo 2's jackal alley. That one is just hard. Unfun and hard.) But more Dark Souls 1 doesn't play like any of the others.
All of the other dark souls didn't seem to design themselves around PUNISHING you for rushing past enemies, trying hard to force you to take things slowly and methodically, (despite actually being... a lot 'faster' than DS1?) DS2 also does things that none of the others do to a very large degree.
I.E. Weapon Sweet spots matter hugely and assuming you don't have high adaptability, you need to think about the actual animation your character does. (this is why dodging to the side is often a bad move, as your legs stay WAY OUT for a long while, and a lot of the famous 'bad hitboxes' of DS2 are more, your s start differently and end before the animation is close to done, often meaning your toes are touching a sword blade.)
Like, Dark Souls 2 is the easiest of the Dark Souls games overall, I think, because if you take it slowly, calmly, and know how to build, you'll do really well.
Also, my original DS2 build, and part of why I'm so partial to the game was "I am going to use nothing but two handed crossbows. And Not use a repeater."
It worked and it wasn't even painful. I even carried people through some bosses by just having a all adaptability, all stamina, all health char with only minimum stats for a sidearm (shortsword) and a light crossbow, and...nothing else. The whole game.
@@WereScrib You can run from everything in DS1, but what's intended is killing everything, but that dosen't mean you have to kill 30 enemies while archers and mages spamming from unreachable places that end up feeling like im playing Touhou instead of an Souls game..
There the encounters are designed so each one is intended (ignore the line of capra and taurus demons, and dragon asses, and dukes archives gets spammy like this but at least you can run).
Using Crossbows is cool sometimes, but being forced to use it because of how with anything else that isn't magic gets you killed, it's not fun.
@@anstorner ...Dark Souls 2 is not easiest with crossbows or ranged weapons, TBH its probably easiest with straight swords like most souls games. Dark Souls 2 is just not a hard game in the slightest. I've beaten it with pure hand to hand, bows, crossbows, scythes, halberds, weird mixed builds, magic, etc. Nothing in the game forces you to use ranged options and while range is actually useful in it unlike most other souls games, it's not particularly advantageous. It's just more of a focus around dodging, positioning, and resource management.
@@WereScrib Shrine of Amana and Iron Keep does try to force you, unless you want to spend over 20 minutes dragging every single enemy away so every hypothetical mage and archers dont spam at you while doing so.
Which i did, but i had fun doing it specially NG +2 with red phantoms everywhere?, No.
Then later on i got an Magic build and the game was so easy that i was hollowing away of the boredom during NG+1 in both places.
Damn Demon Souls came out when I was in college...I've never felt so old
I wouldn't say that fume's hit box was bad, he simply has a really strong backhand slap
His hitbox is sus. Its far wider than it should be, on slams in particular
His backhand slap is bad, but the hitbox made me want to actually dissipate
exactly, at 35:00 you can see it visually connect. I mean Fume Knight is a giant ultra strong being, why wouldn't his backhand also deal damage?
@@whodatiscody Not only that, he also powered by like 1/4 of Manus. Buuuuut like all ds2 haters do, let's ignore the descriptions.
34:53 Very few people understand this attack, but Fume knight is actually hitting you with his right hand there. He does that simultaneously to the sword stab, so that distracts the player from seeing what's in their face
Not entirely convinced that touched him either, but he definitely is punching back which is neat
That’s badass, I never realized rhat
Uhm no it's because the game is bad and not that I'm bad at the video game??
Its because he has hit boxes running up all the way to his shoulders that are so much disproportionately larger than the model You'd be forgiven for mistaking them as SpongeBob's Anchor Arms if they were ever visually enabled. This is incongruous with the rest of the series where the hit boxes are isolated to the weapon specifically and are shaved down to be almost perfectly to scale with the weapon model itself.
@@sasaki999pro Ds1 hitboxes are way worse.
Feeble: "I am done with Dark Souls 2."
**Two Months Later**
"Dark Souls 2 No Hit Run"
The worst thing about the lack of adaptability is that every other stat is optional if you are skilled enough, and the lack of them makes the game more hard as time goes on. For example:
Health. Enemies do more and more damage so without leveling health you need to dodge better and more and not get comboed
Endurance: enemies do longer combos as the time goes on, so you will have to manage stamina better and better
int faith strenght dex: enemies get more health so you need this stats to beat them faster
equip load: you need better armor cause the enemies do more poise damage (usually)
Adaptability doesn't work that way. Different enemies and bosses need more or less adp to rol through their attacks completely not based on how far they are in the game.
For example I had much less problem with fume knight on my sl1 than with regular smelter demon because fume knights attacks dont need that much adp cause they are faster, but smelter demon attacks slower and you need more s to dodge it, on sl1 you need to be frame perfect nearly
Tying s to a stat was a bad idea
@castor Personally, I'm very mixed on ADP as a stat. For a positive, I think that being able to control how effective your roll is means that we can be as OP or as underpowered as we want to be. My biggest complaint is a lack of explanation given for the stat, and therefore making new players feel like it's resistance from DS1. If they had explained it at all, then I don't think it would be nearly as frowned upon.
Equip load is to reduce damage through armour wtf are you using it for?
You’re using it for POISE? WHY ARE YOU TRADING HITS TO BEGIN WITH WRYYY
or just get 20 str get a great shield and block instead of using ADP to dodge and you'll even spend less stamina doing that.
Or get 16 str and higher vit and wear heavy armor and offset your bad rolls with mukbanging lifegems in heavy armor.
Or increase Dex or int and and use range to minimise amount of being upclose to enemy.
Or increase faith and cast some regenerating spells to offset damage taking.
Like you have a choice like RPG games do, you know
even though the gargoyles are just a rehashed boss, i still like it from the perspective that two different encounters across two games implies that the gargoyles are creatures that exist all over the place as a fairly developed species instead of just an exclusive enemy.
The Prowling Magus boss is the equivalent of putting a health bar on the channeller and hollows in the undead parish and calling that a boss. It's just embarrassing.
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Feeble, I have to admit, your the only ytuber that could make 3 videos about ds2 in 2023 and everyone is very entertaining and your creativity and sense of humor is what I love about your vids. Keep em coming, you will eventually blow up if you stick with it. And thanks for all the suffering you do to make these vids, ds2 level 1 run, your a true masochist and must love to torture yourself for all our viewing enjoyment. 👍👑
@@ramrodbldm9876 if you think giving props where it's due is some sort of homo thing, than you must not be very confident in your manhood and I love how you would never say that to anyone's face. A real man don't talk smack behind a keyboard cause they know they will never get the chance to put hands to them so it's not worth it. I'm laying right next to my chik playing PS5 while she's butt naked waiting for me to pipe her while your probably sitting at your mom's house playing games and planning on hitting a lick and going to bed. Grow up boy, take this advice and learn something from it. Positive vibes make good things come your way. Your obviously not happy with yourself or you wouldn't have written a cringe reply like that. Have some pride about yourself. Man up. I'm out, this thang thang calling me. Peace.
@@ramrodbldm9876 suprised you havent already😱
This was a joke video BUT it had the BEST boss rankings. I can’t stand when 90% of bosses are placed in A tier on a ranking
I have just started a Dark souls 2 "Adaptability level only run", its basically this same run but with ds3 dodge frames and animations. So its just the sane and fun version of this.
That sounds like it would actually be more fun. On the other hand, seeing a level higher than 1 on my character screen is enough of a dealbreaker that I’ll intentionally diminish my enjoyment of the game for the sake of the challenge run.
Whats the point of making a superiority cake if you cant eat it too
I started a 50 Strength and 50 Vigor Dark Souls 2 run, so now I can smash everyone with my +10 Large Club while tanking some decent hits.
I physically cannot play dark souls 2 without my 99 agility. It's straight up torture
Part of the reason why so many hitboxes feel so bad is the developers put hitboxes on things other than the weapon. For example, Fume has hitboxes on his legs and arms depending on the attack, so if you're standing on the opposite side of an attack but you just happen to be a little too close to an arm that isn't even holding a weapon, guess who just got hit?
Which on its own, isn't the worst idea, yet for some reason getting elbowed does the same damage as the sword even at the end of the attack which is just.. aggravating
Gaping dragon hitboxes ? Titanite demon hitboxes ?
basically the same thing but a ton more horrid ? go check a hitbox visualisation video
You're gonna hate hearing this, but... You made the game harder on yourself. You can get the Ice Rapier at SL1. As long as you use the Work Hook you can use it, and it would have trivialized Blue Smelter since you can blast him out of range of his fire aura.
People want a reason to complain about anything. Especially DS2
Ice Rapier is great with SL1. While you're at it, get the Bracing Knuckle Ring to make it last longer
@@shoobydooprobably because it’s a garbage game
@@madmanpecoswow stop glazing so much on all the youtubers that trash on ds2 that crazy
@agostonbazmajer1100 Never said I was a DS2 fan; it's my least favorite Souls game. I only know about the Ice Rapier because before the superior DS3 arrived, I used to SL1 invade with that weapon and the ring that stopped soul acquisition (Soul Memory tiers is the worst mechanic). Just thought I would inform him he could have made the game slightly more palatable during his run.
The hardest boss on sl1 in ds2 (in my opinion) is blue smelter demon. This boss shows all the wrong things about the ds2 mechanics:
1. you need to be frame perfect nearly with your dodges with blue smelter demon with low adaptability (assuming you have adp boosting gear) without it good luck.
2. The passive damage was extremely painful cause it would make me have to heal with lifegems, cause normally he would do 80% of my health with a single hit. and the drain would put me in oneshot territory every 10 seconds. (with low adp its extremely bad)
3. the mechanic of human effigies and your max health draining made this fight even worse cause I had to farm human effigies every 2 fights.
It took me 50 tries to beat him sl1. Later on my normal run i beat him without taking a hit. Because I had s
Just soloed him on NG+7 CoC. On NG he's a piece of cake if you stack magic defense. He starts by buffing his sword and as the fight gets longer he eventually ONLY deals magic damage. So a one shot (physical) in the early stages is just a fraction of that when he deals magic (and you have the gear to handle it). Also, if you try to roll as a reflex you'll get hit, he can adjust his delayed attacks at will, and on the fly. You need to watch how he moves, and contrary to Fire Smelter Demon, this one is better dealt with while locked off. All in all, a superb fight if someone has the patience to observe the differences with the Vanilla Demon. Also, beating Burnt Ivory King lets you use King's Crown to its full potential,no more hollowing/effigies. (Tho on NG+7 CoC that didn't made any difference 😂) On SL1 tho it was the only fight I had to summon, although i didn't know how to approach his moveset back then.
That runback gave mt ptsd
Honestly, in terms of runbacks, the Burnt Ivory King has arguably the worst "runback" in the game. It takes no less than 5 minutes to kill all his stupid guards and seal the gates, and everytime you die, you gotta do that BS all over again. At least with the COTD, or the Iron Passage or MOTOIK the runbacks are 45 seconds at worst.@@Jimmyvdpost
Blue smelter is a bullshit overatted boss. Even on a normal run
@@matatertots536he's pretty widely hated, wdym
"im tired of fighting the same boss over and over again"
Ah yes, truly a dark souls 2 and elden ring experience.
At least Elden rings bosses have good design...
@@alito8798 Only handful of them.
Only main bosses, but some lose a bit since you fight their weaker versions earlier.
So most of the bosses of elden ring are either crap or you have so enough of them.
@@michasokoowski6651 legit 90% of Elden Ring bosses are exceptional, if there weren’t copy’s of almost each one i’m sure we’d look at them very differently.
@@michasokoowski6651 That's an L statement
@TadPosting I can't disagree with that. Elden Ring is indeed a very fun game
"Sir Alonne has the worst boss run of the game"
Lud dans Zallen enter the room with the worst boss run of all FS games ☕️⚰️
Try to watch "The worst hitbox ever" of Fume Knight closely - he's hitting you with his free hand, not his sword.
Great video! It was a pleasure to watch it!
Why should a free hand deal damage? That’s still terrible design, only intentional instead of accidental. If they’re going to do that, they might as well make the walking animations deal damage as well.
@@grannytorrelli2560 I'm not protecting the game design here, I just wanted to mention that it's not a broken hitbox of his sword.
You can also get enemies to spawn after reaching the respawn limit by joining the Covenant of Champions. When you're done, just go to Shalquoir to leave the covenant.
Even if i was gay and on an island with you i wouldnt kiss you.
Not until you say sorry, and thats that
pretty fun to watch your run! I'm surprised people have so much hate for this game cause I always loved DS2.. the gimmicky bosses remind me alot of Demon Souls, getting there is the hard part. Shrine of Amana encapsulates it perfectly. unlike other DS games there are no stand out boss fights, except Elana and that was only because the first time I fought her I was already in NG+.
You're a better man than me for trying this run, just thinking about fighting executioners chariot at lvl 1 sends shivers down my spine.
i don't understand how executioners chariot would at level 1 would be bad, just use the chariot to kill the skeletons and be patient taking down the necromancers.
There is a hidden bonfire right next to the rotten brother. You have to drop down off the side to the path that takes you up to it.
Yay that spot were you have to drop where the giants are and I think 1 of the dudes to get to dark lurkers down there but I can't remember but finding that without a guide is almost impossible, even messages seem like tricks cause it's so dark and just doesn't look like it's possible. At least feeble makes mistakes sometimes but that proves that he doesn't just Google stuff and get strats that way, he must go in blind which is pretty cool.
@@BaxBoogey22 you don’t need to drop down at all. Walk along the edge until you find a stone dude blocking a cave, use branch of yore and there’s your bonfire. The drops are only for dlc, lucatiel, and hex guy/darklurker
Also no, he googled a build. No way he just knew about the Vessel shield and the chain ring hidden in the DLC, he even comments on this when he grabs the shield saying his build is complete
@@ToastUrbath really you don't have to drop down in that dark a spot to get there like I knew you can get to the bonfire but I know like right when you come in the level with all them poison statues to the right where you would never look it's so dark like there's a little tiny legs you can drop down and on to get to them two big ass Giants they're harder than anybody else in the game but yeah I didn't know you could just get there by using a fragrant branch of yore I thought that just took you to the bonfire I didn't know it would take you to that cave also but yeah if he did use a guide Idon't blame him I can't imagine doing a level-one run with no I frames that would be horrible he gets a lot of stuff wrong but his sense of humor makes up for it so I don't care he's just funny I think dark souls 2 is a lot better than people say at least it was creative and tried to do stuff different even if everything didn't work out but you know it's actually got some decent mechanics the people don't like but their mechanics to actually challenged you more and the pvp was awesome one time I was AFK and I came back and somebody'd casted all these crazy spells all over my character they were to making all these colors they put a bunch of prism Stones down and they dropped me like six effigies, it was cool as fuck. I'll never forget it.
i like how his voice changes after the smelter demon 😂something left his soul there
Part of the problem I'm seeing here is the hitboxes aren't always to blame, its that DS2 has a weird habit of having you receive damage late. And with low adaptability, the actual animations in rolls become MUCH more problematic. (Your tows stretched WAY OUT during the roll often mean your hitbox is present longer by rolling than just...walking to the side.)
Also the reason the poison breath hit you from behind is it bounces off walls. A few attacks like that work that was in DS2. They interact with terrain.
Also I think I figured out why people like or dislike Dark Souls 2. It comes down to:
Do you enjoy bosses or do you enjoy playing the general game with mobs more? Dark Souls 1 feels like a balanced experience where bosses and the world matter equally. Dark Souls 2's world and general 'road through' a level is the entire experience and bosses are just caps at the end of areas. And DS3 has zones that are utterly forgettable and exist to ensure you don't get sick of boss rushes cos that's its own genre.
I agree, literally the only areas I enjoy in Ds3 are in the DLC
That explains why I like DS1 less. DS3 does bosses better and DS2 does levels better, so really the only thing that DS1 did better was the interconnectedness. Now, I love DS1. Just slightly less then the other two
@@elk3407 I agree, with Ds2 the areas themselves feel like challenges to overcome, whereas with the other two they feel more like preludes/accompaniments to the boss
@@elk3407see- THATS the kind of analysis on DS1 that I can get behind. It’s a classic for sure but DS1 dick riders act like DS2 is an irredeemable pile of shit and it’s just not true. Every time Feeble brought up Quelaag my eyes rolled- it’s like, “how could I not see it before? They’re obviously copying Quelaag and yet NOT copying her at the same time, and so DS2 is both original and unoriginal at the same time! This game bad!” Like holy shit guys, there’s 48 bosses. The Lord Souls are the first half of gameplay, there’s more to this game, give it a damn chance
I dunno.
I liked the Undead Settlement and Irythil Dungeon more than any zone in DS2, and Archdragon Peak is close to the best in DS2. And, if I had to pick one, Farron Keep is probably my favorite poison swamp, if such a thing could be said to exist.
Alternate title:
Adaptability was a mistake: The Movie
Another alternative title:
Level Vigor to 50: The Solution
Finally, this is what this game was meant to convey.
Dark souls 2 is all about the world wanting to give up, nothing is making you complete the game.
but do you still continue?
the essence and philosophy of ds2, masterfully conveyed using the boring and slow gameplay,
Dark Souls 1 conveyed this exact same message, but ultimately did it in a reasonably fair and balanced manner with regards to leveling up stats, upgrading your equipment, and exploring to find new items. Dark Souls 2 is just completely cheap and unfair, and every mechanic and feature in it was intentionally designed to screw you over as much as possible.
You can say the exact same thing about any game in the trilogy though. Ds1 and even Ds3. First you prolong the age of fire until the world cannot be saved in the end anyway. Basically anything you do is pointless
This videi was so much fun to watch, amazing editing, storytelling, character development and analysis, my friend. It was also very sad to, but just because it was really envolving, cheers!
Fume Knight and Sir Allone were my favorite two bosses. I also liked the continuously upgrading Pursuers. That said, I had to take the most insane grinding strategy to actually beat this game and I can’t imagine trying a level 1 run.
Nice to see that the DLCs have the best bosses. Shows they listen to the fans. The boss runs are still pure dogshit.
16:34 The rotten has a bonfire seconds away from his fog door.
Looking forward to see how your run went.
A year ago I put thumb up on this video, but now when I completed this run myself (in SotFS) I'm not so sure.
1) I realized that most of the run you don't even need ADP. Base i-frames are enough if your rolls have precise timing. Or you simply move your character out of hitboxes without i-framing it. Like Smelter's overhead slash, just strafe sideways and then roll. But sometimes it's shitty, yes. In case of the Lost sinner you simply stick to her so she won't use her stab attack with absurd tracking.
2) You shouldn't have limited youself. As I see most of the time you used a mace, ring of blades and no armor\peasant set. I used dagger (lightning) - good dps but low stamina consumption, broadsword (dark) - the best thing, axe (fire) for more damage, and light crossbow (raw) to make some parts easier (Shrne of Amana easy 1st try). I also had mace for some pure blunt damage. Also poisoned knifes for some NPCs. I used dragon rings, Gundyr ring (you know what I mean) and life ring for more health and stamina. Armor to get a bit more surviveability. And of course, the brightbugs and mushrooms.
3) You should have embraced the despawn. I turned on some cool music, summon NPC dudes and in for about an hour I cleared the road to Alonne.
I feel bad just listening to the explanations that you’re giving about these bosses at SL1
About the executioner chariot, I can't confirm, but I think the attack bounced on the wall, the black flames from the horse looks similar to the Iron king fire breath, so I think they have similar physics, since the fire breath can hit the wall in a angle and change direction(but in this case it helps you since the flames don't get in the area close to the exit)
It makes sense why you wouldn’t fight darklurker at lvl 1, but you should definitely fight them at some point if you haven’t because it is a top 3 boss in the game and very fun to learn in my opinion.
you can use fire arrows or roll through the black puddles in black gulch to light them on fire and kill the hand worms without having to fight them.
I level up as much as I can because the enemies will stagger you just by coughing in your general direction.
I agree with sir alone. Your not alone my friend
It's so refreshing watching these videos. For so long now there's been this rhetoric going around that "dark souls 2 is actually a really good game that was so misunderstood at the time when it came out." But no, that's wrong. This game is awful. And you get it. It's so nice seeing you get it
No sorry bud it's actually people finally saying "yeah the games good" and people that have a body pillow of miazaki can't stand that people enjoy something he didn't make
Yes ds2 is the prolly the worst from game
It still has tbe best fashion, build variety, atmosphere (that's very subjective tho) and ng+
The other games are pure gold, ds2 is silver. Not bad at all especially compared to other franchises but falls short of its brethren because it was trying new stuff
The thing I hate the most about this game is the absolute abysmal durability of all your weapons and other equipment. It's all so extremely brittle, so you can only get a very short use out of them before you're forced to rest back at a bonfire to automatically restore them before they completely break. This actually makes fighting other enemies on the way to a boss a liability, because your weapon could completely break before you manage to kill the boss, in which case you're totally screwed.
Fight Darklurker on a regular play through. It’s one of the better bosses in DS2.
i can't lie, seeing someone else rant about ds2 again makes me happy lmao. i've been seeing too many people talk about how ds2 is perfect and the best souls game ever
Literally no one calls the game perfect
No one says that? Sorry people admit that this game isn't actually that bad (and is pretty good by comparison to alot of other games) because SHOCKINGLY when every game from touches is gold, the only one that's silver isn't as amazing
@@brendandonohue2398
i'm sorry but i don't care about your experiences lmao. i said that i see too many people who call it perfect, doesn't matter what you see
@@Tulip_bip I mean fair enough? I'm just saying as someone who's been a from fan since demon souls I have never seen anyone call ds2 perfect :/
But in the end, neither of our experiences matter I guess? Or does only your experience matter? Lmao
Also I hate to be "that guy" but saying "don't care lmao" is generally pretty clear proof you don't have much to really say ;) besides just spouting "ds2 bad" over and over
@@brendandonohue2398
it's an anecdote, of course it doesn't matter. idk why you think i need to have a point. i don't like ds2 and i was sick of seeing people who think it's perfect, so i'm glad this video exists. that's literally it
Holy moly that smelter boi hitbox at 1:23 was diabolical
I think its funny that the gargolyes in ds2 are viewed as a ds1 rip off and are bad/worse because of that, but ds1 gargolyes are ripped from demon souls and nobody minds 😂
For the alonne run, killing the first knight and the salamander above the drop helps. The second room requires git gud. Large club is a godsend for the charred knights before burnt ivory king. You just need to respec your equipment before the king. Steel protection and spell quartz helps with learning his move set. I was annoyed that the knights were harder than the ivory king himself ahaha. And blue smelter demon is truly pretty toxic
PS3/360 scholar of the first sin was the better experience, witch is literally the vanilla game, with 3 dlc's and a new ending. No enemy reallocation, and no stupid fragment branch every corner. The only thing that I missed in PS3's SotFS was the Forlon, that doesn't exist in this version.
I play it on PS5 and Forlorn invades, it’s not just PS3.
Having I frames attached to stat is why I will never do ds2 sl1
I had to stop at the final boss, I couldn't imagine doing the DLC bosses. I sooo look forward to the Bloodborne BL4 experience.
i loved doing bloodborne BL4
@@ThePalebloodDoll the dlc bosses were brutal though
Love your videos. I'm looking forward to your video about the dlc for elden ring when it comes out 😊.
Just in case no one pointed it out. When the horses nasty breath hit you because it bounced off the wall. For more examples of this type of thing see elden ring :). Some projectiles like fire or fog like attacks have pretty much always done this. Get to close to the wall while fighting bayle? Well now hos fire can hit that wall and bounce back to burn your butt.
If I were to give Covetous Demon AKA Jabba the Hutt his own tier, I'd give it H tier for Hilarious. That boss just makes me crack up, his lore, his movements, all hysterical to me.
Fume knights off hand hits you. - so it's not a hitbox issue or janky. His backhand just counts as damage
My favourite part of every feebleking video is when he screams "ITS FEEBLIN TIME" and feebles allover the place
Games of today Truly the channel of all time
You have a bonfire near the rotten in case you don't know
Btw Darklurker is one of the best boss in DS2. Totally worth it trying to get to him.
LEVEL 1?
FEEBLE KING?
DARK SOULS 2?
now this is an epic W
As someone who holds DS2 as his favorite in the series... I can't stop watching, laughing, and enjoying your differing opinions. You have a true passion for hating one of my favorite games and it is that pure distaste mixed with wit that is truly admirable.
Finally someone who gets it. Fellow DS2 lover here haha
Ds2 is my least favorite of the series, but "having an issue" with the "AI" when it's a PS3 game era game is wild.
I am a big ds2 defender alonne is mid and the boss run is absolutely the worst in the entire series
Btw you dont need to use a ascetic to respawn the peasents for your farm you can just join covenent of champions to make the respawns infinite at the cost of making them a bit stronger so abandon it before you fight a boss
00:07 "It's not the way Miyazaki intended" because he did not work on this game xDD
Can't get enough of your DS2 videos, lol.
I'll be the first to admit that DS2 has some janky hitboxes. They give a lot of boss power attacks a shockwave aoe that's hard to see/predict and that doesn't feel fair. But at 35:00 you just got backhanded upside the face with his open right hand
I liked how you talked in slow motion to match the slower pace of Dark Souls 2.
I agree with you on so much. The Fume Knight is the best boss and the SL1 run is awful. As always, a super entertaining video. Good luck on the Bloodborne DLC bosses, you'll need it. Spam those Beast Pellets.
the champion’s seal is fun to play with and can combo with bone fist for anyone interested in a DS2 build
Also! if you put a caestus in the main hand while powerstancing fist in offhand, you still get good damage from the Seal but have a much faster power stance attack from the Caestus
As if playing Dark Souls 2 wasnt torture enough
Aside from adp, what do you actually dislike about the game (Boss dupes and repeating textures don't count lol)
@@DreadGB what i really dislike is the Boss dupes and repeating textures
@@Jahycore Understandable, have a good day
@@arturkey9084 That would be a good comparison if I said "Aside from the community view, what do you actually dislike about the Ds2 (Adaptability, boss runs and soul memory don't count lol)"
@LukeGB _dread I just think it's weak compared to the other games of the series and it's bosses aren't very memorable it's more quantity over quality
Dude, there is a second bonfire in black gulch, very close to the fogwall. And you can join covenant of champions to farm.
Sir Alonne is an excelent example why DS2 is fucking atrocious. No matter is the boss is cool or challenging in the right way, if EVERYTHING around him is god-awful. The joke would be to write DS2 was done by the B-team of FromSoftware, but it's not a joke that is the case and it shows
I love Aava, i've played that fight a million times 😁 something that would make things a little faster is how you react to his spell move: if you sprint directly behind him as soon as he starts doing it, the magic spears can't reach you and you're starting out back closer, with another opportunity to do damage
This video gets a D tier from me for 50 minutes straight boring Ds2 bashing
nobody cares about your tierlist nobody even knows who you are
@@gonfreecss6002 I care
@@APerson-si8jr don't lie the only thing you care about is making sure you get a chocolate shake with your fries and mcnuggies.
The apathy you felt at the end is exactly how i felt when i platinumed SOTFS. It’s just so bad hahaha
I rage quit the blue smelter demon on a fully leveled character many years ago and have not gone back to it ever since. That's how much it pissed me off.
The fact that you beat it level 1 is trully a testament to your mental strength. Congrats my dude!
its not that hard man.. its actually kind of a cakewalk even on sl1
@@Celatra Ah yes of course it's easy. Because if it's easy for you, it's easy for everyone. Congratulations.
@@Melotaku i mean smelter isnt hard compared to more modern fromsoft bosses
That is just because you're bad.
@@drvofoka7033 maybe they didnt level adp and also suck at dodging
the oddly fitting sans music over the blue smelter demon combined with the patrick bateman speech was peak, i love this video
I actually had the most amount of fun with SL1 in DS2. all of the different stat boosting equipment, incasing and just weird usually useless items like the Dark Pyromancy flame and Work Hook suddenly become invaluable.
I think it took me about 2 or 3 hours to get Throne Watcher and Defender. Never did the DLCs tho, fuck that lmao. I like playing DS2 with 0 ADP but getting one shotted by every enemy is something I don't have the patience for, especially shit like the runback to Sir Alonne.
I did a run with no weapons(used Vanquisher's seal) and no armors, I didn't level ADP because at that point I didn't knew ADP was a thing(they put ADP as RES on my language and I thought it was resistência(resistance), and didn't pay attention to it), still was a fun experience.
...Worst part is that 2 years later I decided to check the stats names and look for the ADP that everyone was talking about, and RES was actually adaptabilidade(Adaptability), so ADP was still a valid abbreviation and they changed to RES for no reason.
@@ehmolekkkkk both adaptability and attunement increases agility.
you really need to try out the dlcs, they have the best content, just remember that you don't have to fight everything on the way to a boss, sir alonne you can just run to with planned dodges and an optimal route.
@@Ghorda9 I know, when I played with magic my AGL was OK because I usually put the 75 ATN for the 10 spell slots and got a good amount of AGL even with the base ADP, but for str or dex build both ADP and ATN was at base, so I did need to learn the timing for dodging, Fume knight was the most memorable one when I did the run on Vanquisher's Seal and no armor.
@@Ghorda9 I mean yeah I know I've played through the DLCs many times, I just don't have the patience for them at SL1.
>he didn't beat the game at lvl -46...
My first playthrough, I wasnt aware that adaptability was tied to i frames. It made almost every boss awful. I only think there are 4 bosses that are higher than 6/10 and they are sin, burnt ivory king, fume knight, and alonne. Even though sin and ivory king are my favorites, they are A tier at a max because of the shit hitboxes. Trust me when I say that darklurker fucking sucks. One of the worst runbacks in the series, awful hitboxes, little to no time to heal, and they squeezed two high damaging enemies in a tiny room. I dont understand why people like it, way worse than pontiff.
DS2 was my first souls game. I died to last giant, a lot (like ten times), I've had 40 tries on bootleg Ornstein, trrifying 70-ish on Pursuer, and the Absolute, nonbeatable record for me - more than one hundred tries on Vendrick (I didn't know about the giant souls thing), I beated him by leveling stat connected to endurance to 90 and blocking his 3-hit combo.
Tbf I never had many problems with the Sir Alonne boss run, for two reasons:
1 - I treated the run itself with respect. I didn't try just running away from everything. I took my time, meticulously killing every enemy. It was fun!
2 - If I died during the run, I could just come back and kill them more, get my souls and level up. Rince and repeat until the boss run is empty and I myself am stronger for it.
this is the most soulsborne video ever made. You can see the madness affect the player as the game goes on. One could even say DkS2 is the most Souls game because it makes us want to go hollow in real life just to stop playing.
every ds2 criticism ive ever seen is either applicable to dark souls 1 or elden ring and its never complained about in either game
You gotta fight Darklurker. It’s really good.
I stopped this run after I beat Sinh - one of the best fights took about five attempts and I felt nowhere near the satisfaction I did playing DS3 level 1. I couldn't quite explain it, but I took it as a sign that the run wasn't worth my investment. Looking back, I guess it's because none of the fights are challenging enough to feel like a worthy challenge, and anything hard about them usually involves DS2's shitboxes.
Thank you for this video, you really did a great job!
x1.25 speed 👍
Currently replaying DS2 right now, I think the executioners horse spray attack aims for the player no matter where they’re at, and this is the same with any other enemy and boss attack that’s ranged, they track you.
For instance the imperfect, their ranged attack will literally follow you from left to right if you try to dodge it, you need to roll into it or sprint several feet to your side, which it will still track you and explode by you, and that attacks hit box is ridiculous. I don’t care how high your ADP is, if you’re in a (in game) 10-15 radius of that projectile, you’re getting hit unless you roll into it and let it explode behind you. It also clips through obstacles, like we can’t shoot from around the corner because of the walls hit box being more than an inch out from the wall/columb/door, etc… but enemie projectiles can go through those hit boxes, and arrows track you as well in this game.
It’s really fucked because the tracking for us is shit, you every try to use a greatsword in that fucking game? You’re missing your target 4/10 times, easily. You need to be directly in front of them if your greatsword has an overhead slice. There’s a lot of wonky enemy and boss advantages against us, which tells me that they made this game to be hard, flat out. They didn’t want this game to be fun, they wanted us to think it was the hardest thing ever and they could only do that by giving enemies and bosses more advantages than we get
Tbh DS2 SL1 makes more sense in real life perspective.
You shouldn't get random invulnerable frame just because you press a roll bottom :P
Damn it’s almost like it’s a sequel to video game devoted to being tough but fair and this sequel went out of its way to be as unfair and annoying as possible.
Oh wait, that’s exactly what happened. ;)
A redeeming quality about The Persuer is how you can use the ballistas to shoot him, but if you stay far for too long he'll use a projectile attack against you, which can destroy the ballistas if you're too slow.
I just used the Twin Dragon Greatshield with a +3 Club, and alternated between blocking and getting a strong attack in at the end of his combo.
Sir alonne's boss run suck but you refuse to learn enemies movement pattern. You refuse to figure out a consistent path to the boss and instead keep bumping your head into a wall until it works out. You hate sir alonne because of your own skill issue
The guy who has beaten every souls game at level 1 just needs to git gud. then he'll be able to enjoy the game. the minds of ds2 players are enigmas
It would interesting to see this journey continue in the Ascended Mod or Seeker of Fire mod.
You don't have to run straight for the Giant Lord right after the statue head rolls by, you can wait for a few seconds for the smoke to dissipate or use the smoke screen as a buff period before going in to the fight.
It honestly seems like more often than not you're making this more difficult for yourself and complaining about it.
Yeah he showed he didn’t get at least two close to the fog gate bonfires when complaining about Rotten and not-Medusa boss runs and showed footage of stuff you wouldn’t have to ever do.
The NpC invasions in Rotten in Scholar are the only real annoyance there.
15:00 lol The cameraman got hit there 😂😂😂
hmm...DS2 hitboxes are AIDS and cancer combined with syphilis, yet in ER where enemies hit the ground in front of them and you get tagged by some delayed aftershock on the other side of the arena is 100/10. got it. DS3 and ER enemies changing orientation mid-swing is okay. got it. Half of the enemies in ER being reskins of DS3 (or even DS1) enemies and AI is 1000/10. got it. DS3 and ER enemies playing Bloodborne while the player is playing DS3 is just fine. got it. Gank squads in DS2 is bad, but gank squads in DS3 and (especially) ER is good. got it.
NONE of FromSoft's titles are without major and more than likely repeated flaws. They have only become more adept at hiding their obvious limitations in flashy effects and speed.
the thing is that ds2 has all of those weaknesses (but worse) and 1/10th of the strengths , ds2 boss hitboxes are not intentional, they are just bad, if you dont like the bosses tracking you in ER and Ds3 either git gud, or stay mad that you cant beat every boss by circle strafing like ds2
@@mrerectric5999 DS2's hitboxes are usually the most accuratein the series , check some hitbox visualisation videos .