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It's time to take on Majula..except without leveling up. I'm sure it wont be that hard right, surely this game isn't known for being janky or having funny hitboxes...right? Well let's find out today I answer the question: Can I beat DARK SOULS 2 at SOUL LEVEL 1?
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Ramen eating simulator pfft
How is this comment 5 days old if the video came out less than a day ago?
@@TheRealEldenRingSotE video was unlisted, anyone with the link can see/comment on it (including myself as the creator lol). So I wrote the comment, then just made it public earlier today
@@DoomWolfOfficial okay, thank you
I hope you do this for money and you dont like this garbage for real.
I beat my SL1 for DS2 with a different mental constitution by the end. Iron Passage was the most brutal section, where I died 152 times, with only 19 of those deaths being to the Blue Smelter Demon.
Jesus, that sounds accurate though. before the run even began I had told myself, Iron keep, Iron passage, and Sir allone I will just full clear, no questions lol
After finishing DS2 SL1 a few days ago, Iron Passage was one of the better runbacks, the first section is probably the worst of it but the other two parts are so scripted.
Felt the same about Sir Alonne’s Runback, first part was pretty bad but the second part was 100% consistent.
I’m pretty sure most of my Runbacks were minor inconveniences at most, overall not too bad…
…now Frigid outskirts on the other hand… i may have actually lost my humanity IRL doing that runback and boss over and over and over again… was probably the worst experience i’ve had in my entire No levelling Marathon.
@@HeinzBeanz2002 this is so strange to me because I only died three times in total in the entire area. If you get the Old Knight Hammer, you can pancake the reindeer. I saved frigid outskirts for last, thinking it would mentally defeat me, only to complete it with ease
@@123afish two different SL1 experiences lmao
Who would have thought.
Honestly, my experience overall was mostly positive i’d say, ADP aside i had just as much fun in this game as i had in any other, frigid outskirts and Lud & Zallen was the only real terrible experience.
@@HeinzBeanz2002I can't even imagine doing that.
SL1 runs always felt so interesting because with no maiden to transpose souls into artificial strength, it feels like a regular person managing to overcome ancient heroes and monumental monsters.
Especially with something as mundane as a rapier and poison.
Is this how an ancient kingdom is overcome?
Yes, yes it is.
Interesting perspective, never really thought of SL1 being like a normal guy
Not even just a normal guy. Someone who just came back from the grave, who barely remembers their name and lacking all their humanity. Basically more of a weak Zombie than a regular guy.
That’s what I like about them. Blood level 4 Bloodborne feels way more like how the fights would go.
Rapier user detected
Unleash the "dexfag" jokers
Damn I’ve never thought about the “just don’t get hit strategy” before. Definitely gonna try strat in my next souls run
It's an amazing strategy lol
Is that a NEW strategy? Don't think I've seen that on Reddit
24:04 That Pharros Lockstone does indeed do something, it's one of the few "trap" devices in the game. You see that slot in the wall beside it? If you're a good little hollow, you stand in front of the device and wait for the illusory wall to start glowing. If you do, a saw blade comes out of that slot and hits you. That's about it.
Interesting, thanks for the explanation!
I don't think you need the lock stone to even access the wall. Just walk up and activate it. The lock stone is indeed a giant troll
The main pain with this run
A: No adaptability (horrendous healing)
B: No adaptability (No dodge I-frames)
C: NO ADAPTABILITY.
(Edit) Holy COW this video was 2 months ago!?
..Damn
Time flies
low ADP did make up most of my deaths lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial I Know.
I’ve done this before as well.
It’s Not Fun
AKA, my first playthrough
There's a YTer who plays the game x2 speed regularly and almost never adaptability unless he farmed extra souls.
If one thing can be said to the benefit of DS2 in terms of SL1 runs, is there are a lot of items that give stat boosts. Like, a LOT of items, more than any of the others if I remember right
True, it's honestly overwhelming lol
ds2 has like 3x the amount of stat boosting items that the other games do. there is consumables for every damage stat, rings for every stat (except adp), and a lot more
I know this is an old comment but there is an Adp ring, it's called simpleton's ring, it makes your rolls invisible, but, more importantly, gives a whopping +5 adp
36:16 This may have been the first time I’ve seen a dark souls challenge runner acknowledge that leveling armor came as a useful mechanic
I honestly sometimes forget it's even a thing, in this case I had left over materials and decided why not use them, pretty sure it helped lol
Tbh, it ain't in the big picture, but it helps in subtle ways. I upgraded my kings armor set to max and amanaged to survive a hit at NG+7 with like 3 health or something. It helps, but most people simply overlook it.
Hell yeah, this made my boring shift at work allot more entertaining! Great job man!
I'm glad my friend :)
Congratulations on completing this at soul level 1. This was a brutal run. Hopefully the next run will be easy street to relieve some frustration.
Thanks my friend :)
DS2: yay!
Sl1: Ohno
I love the game, but I have never done an sl1 for it. No Agility is pure pain.
lmao, those first two sentences were my feelings too
Dooms posted!!!!
Hope you enjoy it :)
@@DoomWolfOfficial great video, the frigid outskirts is why I have up on my sl1 all bosses 2 years ago and never tried again
He says that definitely not being held hostage at ballista point or crossbow point. 0:01
The original edit actually had a gun off to the side, but I thought TH-cam would be mad at me lmao
I absolutely love your dark souls challenge runs. You are my favorite TH-camr by far.
Thanks my friend, you're too kind :) glad you enjoy the videos!
Seeing Doom struggle in agony in my beloved Dark Souls 2 does put a smile on my face.
I'm glad you enjoyed my struggle my friend lol
Nice video! I'm in the middle of a ds2 sl1 run and just beat Burnt Ivory King after struggling with him for a while. I also had to cheese the throne watcher and defender fight to beat them, so that was amazing seeing you beat them in 2 or 3 tries!
Thanks! Good luck on your run my friend! I think I got lucky on the throne water and defender, I was prepared for a long tedious fight but it just...didn't happen lol
Finally! Dark Souls 2!
The time has come!
a 100% physical shield is weirdly effective against the reindeer's charge attack
Sh..ield? What is that? Never heard of that weapon :P
@@DoomWolfOfficialbtw this is the best souls game for using shields as a weapon.
If you play this game with save files to prevent runbacks it’s actually the funnest ds game imo
true lol
22:10 There Is One Of Those, Along With A Flexile Sentry On The Water Pool (Flooded Area) Before The Lost Sinner
Really? I know the flexile sentry always attacks me but I've apparently never aggroed the other monster lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial The Undead Aberrations Are Slow AF, Maybe Even If You Got To Aggro Him Sometime, He Wasnt Able To Catch Up To You?
IMO the best way to deal with the Frigid Outskirts is to use either the Greatclub + stone ring or just the Old Knight Hammer (no stone ring needed). With that you can just stunlock the horses to death with the heavy attack.
Hey thanks for the advice! I'll try to remember it next time I go through there haha
I love when I discover all my favorite Soulsborne youtubers are interconnected (Doom Wolf, Press Continue, LilAggy, ...), either know knowing or watching each other.
It's all one big interconnected world, much liek dark souls ;) haha
I am 100% with you on the "I don't PvP" bit. That said, I do prefer playing online because I consider player ghosts on almost a vital part of the atmosphere. Really appreciate Elden Ring letting me opt out of other people having fun by ruining my fun without going offline.
Did toy with the idea of getting banned in DS3 and DS1 decided not to since but it's generally avoidable. Especially so in DS1 since being human gives you no benefit. I'm also pretty sure the ban servers would be worse :P
I do like seeing the bloodstains and messages and ghosts, they are a neat edition, I just don't like the forced pvp interactions lol
also I love the way you said 'did toy with the idea of getting banned' lmao
iirc only NPCs that actually have an invasion popup have a timer - NPCs that are technically ‘already there’ aren’t invaders
Fair, not something I would have encountered being perpetually offline lmao
Dark Souls III soul Level 1 Run when ?
Love The Video and the Work you did with this :3
I will do that as my first DS3 challenge, not sure when though haha
Dark Souls 2 is a pretty damn good game, but aesthetically and mechanically it feels like a fan made game as far as fitting in with the rest of the trilogy. It is not bad by any means, it has tons of content and different ways to build your character. I definitely got my money's worth with it, but from a general perspective I prefer the rest of Fromsoft's lineup.
Pretty spot on comment, I agree. I make a lot of DS2 bad jokes, but it's really not, it's just _different_
It’s surprising how many hard boss runs you can just run past the enemies and just enter the fog in time. For example blue smelter demon you can just run and bait the giant dude and enter the fog before getting hit
this is what I normally do, but for SL1 I didn't want to do that run back at all lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial now your making question if should do the dlc in sl1
Ah, best souls. As a lunatic who beat the vanilla version plus dlc, then the sotfs edition, this video is definitely worth 50 awestones.
does that mean I get an irl vanquishers seal? lol
In case it helps for future videos, you can play offline by having your firewall block specifically dark souls 2, or just killing your internet connection completely of course. I preferred the firewall method so I didn't have to mess with my internet every time I started up.
True, I actually play on PC so I can just go offline in steam, which I've done before but this time I was lazy lol
I actually do do that in the next DS2 video that isn't out yet tho
"first up is everyone's favourite arachnid Rachnera".
Wait i heard this name before somewhere.
OH.
awesome video DW, loving all the hard work you put in dude.
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
the rings/gear that give you stats is what makes DS2 SL1 enjoyable, i hated how strict the path to DS1 SL1 is, so i went with a Level 1 Hunter and beat the game with Uchi and Claymore (Leo ring goes Brr)
Nice! I like the added flexibility, but it also makes it more intimidating to get into haha
His intro is basically: hello everyone today im selling my soul to dark souls 2
isn't that what we all do when we play DS2? lmao
Ds2 is a video game in the souls franchise and that is all I will say on the topic
I agree
Dark souls 2 saved my cat yesterday, thank you Dark souls 2.
This is the power of Dark souls 2, I hope your cat is okay!
how
20:35 all summons have a time limit I think invaders have around 10 minutes or less, also parrying is op on sl1 because the parry frames last longer with the slower animation. Buckler gives you enough time to parry anything long bwfore they even try hitting you
according to the wiki (so grain of salt lol) they do, I just didn't realized it applied to NPC invaders, figured those were just there permanently until you or they died lol
Congrats! While DS2 is unironically my favorite and most played fromsoft game (ER included), there's no way in hell I'd consider doing this. You, sir, are a braver soul than I.
Dark Souls 2 is a great game, I wish more people would give it a chance! DS2 at SL1 should never be touched lmao
5:53 am and I'm watching this..I'm gonna need one of these every morning with my coffee please
if I could push out a full video everyday..I would need more coffee than is in existence lol
Can't wait to fully watch this while I cook this evening but here's a comment in the meantime!
Don't forget to let me know what delicious meal you are preparing!
Well I actually prepared home made burgers while watching this! They were delicious and I appreciated the knife related shout out which I watched while using a kitchen knife to dice a chilli pepper to put in the burger. Needless to say, my experience eating that burger was likely far more enjoyable than your experience in the Frigid Outskirts 😂
Next One "can you beat DS2 without sitting at the bonefires"
If we are talking about classics challenge runs this Is perfect
yeahhhhh I don't mind not having those rings lmao
24:05 assuming that's the second one in the memory of Orro it is in fact pointless and actually triggers a trap if you have not killed all the enemies around the immediate area.
it was, thanks! I...think you're the only one who has mentioned that in a comment so far haha
@@DoomWolfOfficial no worries, glad to help out
I really enjoy watching Dark Souls 2 content, more than I like playing it (I kinda enjoy playing it as well, but watching it sure is sweet for some reason... The lack of content of it around sure is a shame), Very glad you're doing it. Also, man, I really feel Scholar of First sin makes the game worse, so really, my condolences playing it on lvl 1.
Thanks glad you enjoy the video :)
The noble's slender sword is the best weapon in Elden ring
its not bad thats for sure haha
Congrats on a good run, it was fun to watch especially since I barely remember DS2
Thanks, DS2 is a fun game and I'm looking forward to doing it more in the future :)
This was my first souls game and despite the hate I love it
It really is good and doesn't deserve the hate it gets
I knew you referenced jk leeds bc you added puns in left and right.
What can I say, the master of puns has influenced me lol
24:45 rare attack actually pretty neat he ran into it.
Is it? I saw him do it twice in my attempts lol
This 43 min video went by sooo quick. Keep up the good work. Love from Germany, stay safe everyone ❤
I'm glad you enjoyed it my friend, thanks you too!
What people forget about Dark Souls 2 are two things. One most if it's Problems (Hitboxes, etc.) are also present in other games and second, it has a NG+ that actually changes the game apart from enemies doing more damage and having more health. It is perfect. No, not by a long shot. But for me it stands one the same pedastal as Dark Souls 1 and 3. Slightly under Bloodborne, Elden Ring and Sekiro.
I absolutely LOVE that NG+ changes things, I know it's much extra work (or can be) but it really is something that should be considered if a game has NG+
Also agreed the other games also have bad hitboxes, but I feel like in DS2 they are at the worst. I'm not necessarily bagging on it here, but it's definitely the game I went "no, I call BS game" the most lol
The rest of the games have hitbox issues the difference lies with the fact that ds2 also has stats that affects your of all things so your rolls start up horrible
So bad hitboxes mixed with the fact that you need a stat to roll properly makes ds2 stay above the rest by a very substantial large margin
And while the Ng+ stuff is nice a lot of people will try ds2 once and never again because of all the bull this game has a game has to captivate people with their first playtrough in order to keep them there.
And ds2 is by far the roughest first playtrough anyone can have in a fromsoft game
what i cant forget about ds2 is the horrible ganky enemy placement of SOFT
Can you beat Dark Souls 2 with a smile on your face and joy in heart?
impossible challenge lmao
OMG IM IN THE VID AT 6:31 IM RIGHT THERE STANDING AS A PHANTOM OMG WTH I NEVER THOUGHT THIS WILL HAPPEN!!!
I think someone else has said that (or maybe it was you twice who knows lol)
Great job!
Thanks my friend :)
"knight zoolander" is an extraordinarily good joke and you deserve to feel proud of it 10/10
Thanks, I thought it was a funny joke lol
3:14 crazy, I was crazy once they looked me in a room a rubber room, a rubber room with rats and rats makes me crazy, I was crazy once they looked me in a room a rubber room, a rubber room with rats and rats makes me crazy, I was crazy once they looked me in a room a rubber room, a rubber room with rats and rats makes me crazy, I was crazy once they looked me in a room a rubber room, a rubber room with rats and rats makes me crazy, I was crazy once they looked me in a room a rubber room, a rubber room with rats and rats makes me crazy, I was crazy once they looked me in a room a rubber room, a rubber room with rats and rats makes me crazy
this fits even better when i mentioned the royal rat vanguard lol
Not gonna lie, you got me with the subscribe button.
Glad you liked that bit :)
I just beat ds2 for the first time a few days ago
It's not as bad as people say, is it?
It's a great game, isn't it!
Dark Souls 2's SL1 run was even more horrendous prior to the Scholar update because most armor didn't have its bonus effects (though the DLC items were already stat buffing mostly). I did my original a few months after the game came out and OH BOY was it a pain! Good video, hope to see more fun DS2 runs from you in the future.
well guess it's time to do a vanilla DS2 SL1 run then! WOO lol
What’s the meaning of “save state “ in the abyss? Back up save?
Yeah, quit out in the abyss to make a save in the chasm, then back up the save that way if I die I can load it back up. I very rarely do that, but I can't be bothered to clear those chasms and use an effigy everytime just to try the boss lol
I'm impressed on how you managed to get invaded in SL1... My run took about 60h and half of them I was online and never got invaded.
Also, you played much better than me, I got A LOT of deaths in the SL1.
I'll trade you, I don't want to be invaded ever lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial well I despise PvP too so... xD
But I play offline mostly because the bloodstains sometimes annoy me
honestly dark souls 2 is my favorite of the dark souls games to play casually. Other than the adaptability stat, I have no major complaints about the gameplay or features.
I have a couple issues with some hit boxes being wildly off, but I agree. It's a great game and an overall great experience, I wish people didn't jump on the DS2 bad bandwagon
Gank squad on my SL1 playthrough gave me a cerebral hemorrhage (I hadn’t known about the ledge strat)
They were absolutely doing the same to me, honestly I don't want to ever fight them normally again lol
2:42 Ninja Gaiden.......... that on it's own already screams *"this game is hard as fuck"* on it's hardest difficulty
facts lol, even on the normal difficulty the game was giving me problems , but it's good fun!
Love your videos. I cant stop laughing. And i always learn something new. So thanks for that.
I'm glad you like them :)
Ever tried getting into the fallout or resident evil series, maybe even tried to think of different ways of trying to beat sekiro, like instead of just using thrust attacks, you can use normal attacks but you cannot dodge, sure its not as hard as the thrust only no dodging challenge you did, but its good to have different variants considering sekiro is a game where you may not beat the game in all the ways like in every other souls game, but different variants on their own is fine, even if you have already done it before, it can still be fun. Oh wait, you are not the person who did the thrust only challenge, oh well, you can still try no dodging sekiro challenge
Lmao, Baron did thrust only. But anyway, I would like to do more sekiro videos, but as you said the game doesn't lend itself to a lot of options. Still I have a couple ideas planned
Thanks Mr. Wolf! Happy to see more dark souls!
Glad you enjoyed it my friend :)
Moom look, doom is back and he's posting
haha, hope you enjoyed it :)
Tbh, i never use the ring of binding. I would if they had made it do something else. Maybe let you keep a certain percentage of souls on death, hence "binding" the souls to you, or maybe every 100 kills or something like that acts to reduce 1 level of hollowing. You know, something to help reduce resource loss/consumption.
I just never use effigies so it's the way out of being half dead for me lpl
When you’re normally around LV 200 at the final boss without needing to farm, I think ds2 suffers the most from a sl1 run lol
Yeah, DS2 throws the most amount of souls at you for any of the games I feel. Maybe because it has so many bosses idk haha
that ranged vendrick attack is actually only around a 5% chance! it's never happened in any of my games p cool to see :^)
I must be lucky then, iirc he did it twice but I only showed it once haha
14:48 "first up is everyone's favorite arachnid, Rachnera. If you got that reference, welcome fellow degenerate" I tip my hat to you, my fellow degenerate
m'degenerate lol
so many people have a "i dont pvp" mindset with souls and its interesting to see considering one of the main draws for me to the original dark souls was its pvp.
I know a few people that absolutely LOVE it.
I love the asymmetrical nature of it, but I just don't like playing against other people. The only game I pvp in is smash bros lol
Mom! New Doom Wolf video!
Haha hope you enjoyed it my friend :)
First time I got invaded I was helping the family with cleaning up. When I got back someone was throwing some weapon degrading probably poo cost me 20k to fix all my broken gear. That was my last time I’ll play ds2
Oof that's unfortunate my friend, could have been the start of your DS2 villain arc lol
Great video!
I'm currently doing a sl1 ds2 playthrough myself! My friend dared me to complete the game sl1 and no summons and I'm kinda dreading Zud and Allen. Do you have any tips for more challenging bosses such as Blue Smelter demon?
blue smelter isn't the worst it's mostly just the run back that sucks, id recommend using poison, it's really easy to proc it on him and does...enough damage? lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial Hello again! I finally beat Blue Smelter demon! I used lightning resin and poison knifes and finally got him
Thank you so much, I learned a lot from your video and now, there's only lud and zallen + throne of want left
Wish you best of luck!
Iv platinum Elden ring so Iv gotta pick up the other fromsoft games at some point
So I guess you could say the will cost me extra
lmao, great one ;)
Now do it at soul level -44, which is when you skip the character creation and all your stats are at 1!
I did debate doing that instead of SL1
..nahhhh lol
Really nice run, congrats.
Because of your videos i installed DS2 again. I played it a long time ago and while i had to get used to the controls after DS1, i really loved it.
But now, after playing a few hours, i realized one thing...i can handle the janky controls, but what's REALLY annoying is the lock on. You lock on, move away a bit because the enemy attacks, and while pressing away if you then attack, you attack in the direction you pressed and not the one you locked on oO
After some deaths to this i got frustrated and quit 😅
Awesome!! DS2 is such goodfun but I also agree that attack direction thing is...not ideal haha having to let go of the analog stick to attack is weird
@@DoomWolfOfficial
Yes, especially when you wield the Greatsword early on, it leaves you wide open and a lot of stamina goes poof. Maybe i try again with Mace or Rapier 😅
I’m drunk af but this is based, love you, it’s my favourite game!
DS2 is a great game, wish people would give it a chance instead of just thinking it's bad
also I hope you drink lots of water my friend! gotta avoid that hangover!
i did a DS3 SL1 run ... was fun.
but DS3 has consistent s. i cant imagine how infuriating this must have been
you might also enjoy the "all stats at 1" run by Press Continue :) its basically a SL -46 run
I've seen his video over it, it looks...quiet painful lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial i just watched the video again and noticed something: you can actually take the iron key even if the fire is still burning, you just need to be quick ;)
also: you can play ds2 offline, just go into your firewall settings and block ds2 from accessing the internet. i do that with all fromsoft titles since i dont like the online aspect either.
when there is no internet access ds2 wont go into the long connection loop either
@@xXRunDeathXx about the iron key, true, but mah progression! Lol
And about DS2 offline, also true! But if you're on steam like me you can also just go offline in steam lol
0:01 he got me on a fucking chokehold
you weren't the only one ;) lol
Of course you can! Should you though? That's the real question...
Fair enough lol
that raw infused rapier hits like a truck ngl
It really does lol
14:48 Ah yes, a fellow person of culture.
If I could post the meme I would lol
this game seems like it would be fine to do a sl1 run on but then you forget you have barely any s
Basically though lol
22:20 I actually said: " you're an idiot" , jokingly right before the text popped up and it sent me for a spin.
haha yeeeah, that wasn't my brightest moment
Ninja gaiden 3 razors edge ultimate ninja mode literally broke me ❤️
That's...fair lol
would love to see an alternate interpretation of "Can You Beat Dark Souls 2 With Only Strafing?" and the starting class is a UH-1 Iroquois
That's a mod if install lol
1:40 wow playing dark souls 1 before doing this challenge and forgot how to jump in ds2😂
It happens to the best of us lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial me finish ds3 without upgrading weapons and every boss I defeat with weapon than I can't use the weapon forever and no armor
"the amount of times you die plus one" is brilliant
and accurate ;) lol
Bro really said the sponsor was a "hidden gem" like they havent been paying every single youtuber to show off the game lol
how many youtubers are there compared to normal gamers though? so statistically that statement works ;)
(I do actually really like Wanted Dead though lol)
Okay, now we need a PvP special. Fight club for 100k subscribers?
you just wanna watch me get beat up :P lol
I just recently finished DS1-3 at SL1 and overall DS2 was probably the hardest but Soul of cinder was the hardest overall
I wonder if DS2 was because of ADP haha
36:36 not just a meme that it's called "Horse-Fuck Valley"
indeed lol
Powerstancing the mace is how i beat all of ds2
Well, two are better than one, but I still can't get over the range haha
You can use the ice rapier with a good combination of rings and armors, just enough to use it
Didn't that drop and I used it in this one? Or was that the other DS2 video I did lol
@@DoomWolfOfficial yeah you did use it, but I writed this before you did and didn't deleted it because im dumb
I've actually been a player to be summoned by looking glass knight and was really awesome!
I bet it would be cool to be summoned for it, never cool to be the one against it though haha
@@DoomWolfOfficial yeah it was cool, you have to invade at the central castle bonfire after twin dragonriders
@@DoomWolfOfficial Oh it definitely wasn't cool for the player fighting the boss cause I used to be decent at PVP HA, no mercy
The only time the looking glass knight summons another player is NG+
I have never heard this before, I went to see if I could find information about it and it's not on the wiki (not that that is super reliable haha) but the first reddit post I found stated that you could be summed in regular NG as well, so i'm not sure haha
@@DoomWolfOfficial What's funny about NG+ in Dark Souls 2. New things happen. Like duke ambushing you. (And I think it maintains its HP if you don't rest)
Or lost sinner gaining two very powerful Pyromancers as backup.
I love those kinds of videos, lucky to get that gem recommended!
Well I am glad you enjoyed it my friend :)
I played Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1,2,3 Bloodbourne, Elden Ring, Lies of P and Lords of the Fallen + some unknown Soulslike like Mortal Shell, Thymesia, Salt and Sanctuary etc.
I'm a fan of soulslike for a long time and yes Dark Souls 2 is a good game, but a bad soulslike. I noticed this, when i replayed it again and directly after that playes Dark Souls 3. It was like night and day. The combat is more fluent, the animations are cleaner and i felt like i actually control the ingame character instead of hoping that he does what i want. Yes i finished DS2 wirh an ADP of 35, so this should not be the problem here. It still feels very very odd to play. In a Soulslike the first thing the game needs to get right is the controls. If you don't feel that your actions are transfered to the character ingame it breaks everything. The immersion, the atmosphere etc. Also DS2 is way to long. In the time i finished Dark Souls 2 i finished Dark Souls 3 2 times. This would not be a bad thing if the Content in this game wouln't feel so rushed because of this. The areas don't make sense at all, everything looks ugly and muddy. Almost all of the bosses are trash. The only exception to this are the DLC Bosses and the DLCs in general. This is peek Soulslike in my opinion and i really liked them. Honestly i can't imagine that the base game is the favorite game of anyone that played all the other good soulslikes out there. Either the people are bias, because its their first one or the people like it, because it has so much content OR they played the DLCs last and now only remember the good stuff in there.
Hey thanks for the comment! See I would agree that movement is part of what makes a souls game a good souls game, but beyond that it is the combat, specifically the commitment in combat. Now the newer title likes BB, DS3, and ER are _way_ faster than the ones that came before but the older titles have so much weight to the combat, you really are throwing your weight around and committing to every swing.
which also happens in DS2, but something...does feel off about it. I can't exactly put my finger on it but DS2 is _different_
I def agree the game is long, too long. and most of the bosses are piss easy lol, but the world is still put together fine, if a little disconnected because of the way it's set up + warping from the git go
my issue with a lot of souls like is they get the combat wrong. Like Mortal shell for example, I played it and even enjoyed it but the combat felt too ...slow? clucky? I don't know, it didn't feel good to swing my weapon around. Lies of P gets it right but that's because the combat loop, like sekiro, is really tight. parry hit parry hit.
anyway, I totally get where you're coming from, but in my opinion I think DS2 is a good souls game, not the best, but it does it's job well enough haha
Ds2 was pain, especially since I also decided to only use fists weapons, meaning I COULDNT WIELD THE CAESTUS UNTIL I GOT TO BRUME TOWER (needed the strength ring)! Yes, I could have two handed one caestus, but that looks silly, the only real way is to duel wield them (fashion is more important), and I could have used the conquerors seal, but didn't feel like farming 50 awestones (which I eventually did have to do for Burnt Ivory King and Lud and Zallen). Pain, pure pain.
That does sound rough! And agreed, fashion above functionality