But what does really mean when Muslims all live in nation states, pay taxes to nation states, etc. I think this statement often needs to be explained clearly. And Allah knows best.
Why are you butt hurt atheists saying he doesn’t know what he’s saying cuz he’s using fancy words?! He has more degrees than y’all could ever acquire in your life . Saying he’s speaking gibberish lol. Listen to what he is actually saying without your emotions clouding your judgement
The reason why religion as a concept is faulty is that there is no way to prove which religion is true and which is false. If we are to assume that only one religion is real, we wouldn't know which it was. There is no physical way to prove it and the only way to possibly prove it is if you were able to die and then come back to life with your mind still intact. When a body dies the brain dies almost instantly. This is the greatest hurdle in proving something like the afterlife or a god.
Why not ask God himself when you die? A debate between atheist and a believer will come to point that atheist will say ‘ok I agree that the system is highly complex to be came in existence by itself and was created by God, so who than created God?” The answer is “No body knows”. So why not ask God almighty himself when you die. But If this life is a test by God, and the good doer will go to heaven and the bad to hell, than why risk it?? Why God hide him? Because the creation cannot tolerate to See Him. Can you witness Atomic bomb at 6 feet away ? you will be vaporized. So I m saying that God who created Sun and million times bigger starts,galaxies etc etc. Imagine how magnificent will be Himself who created them. Can you withstand seeing him? We can sure answer not in this life.
The meaning of God is uncreated because he is the founder of this complex creation. In islam , we believe we'll see god in the paradise. So seeing god is a gift for those who believe. And for me what is the best moment than seeing who created me. Test is the law of nature. God knows everything because he's out of time. Test is for us to know if where we are in our faith. If there's no creator then why all these happened? Oh people believe The only one God who created each and everyone. God just want simple from you and that is your heart.
This brother #hamza has broke the bones of their prophets (prophets of athiesm) so all who's talking against him are either uneducated or intllectually dishonest.
Why go atheist, i mean isn't that the complete opposite of religious extremism & why do atheists believe in the notion that evil is real if they don't believe in god, it doesn't make logical sense to me. You can't disprove, nor prove the existence of god, so why go from one extreme to another. Shouldn't there be a balance to be kept in check...truth can be one of the many concepts that keeps your balance.
***** Thats a good point brother, we shouldn't believe in something before doing extensive amounts of research before coming to a conclusion in our own selves. Everything should be looked at critically and carefully if we are to find the truth i suppose... i never used to believe in god or anything for that fact.. but that all changed when i started seeing how the world is and what people can do or say to one another also looking at history and creation helps to humble myself with our current reality we live in.
true believer well since you seem eager to know my position on what I've found, i can teach you what information i have accumulated so far. My reality is based upon my external observable findings in my environment and what is proven to be scientific fact which is always subject to change. I'm skeptical of religious teachings but i do not discount them completely unless they appear to sound completely ludicrous. According to some statisticians, life on planet earth couldn't have come about through random mutation from chemicals bonding throughout billions of years and eventually forming to see what we have today. Which may indicate another theory(creationism) but i like to leave room for more information to be taken into account so i can increase my foundation of knowledge on this subject. It's a rather wide range of information an individual can come across when trying to discover the origins of the universe and whether or not it was created by an omnipotent,omniscient being that is outside of time and space. The truth of what most religions teach is that our thoughts and emotions can be applied to angels/demons or God or perhaps all together as 'one' tampering with us in the spirit world, which can be a highly interesting hypothesis, as it could explain a lot of what modern science today has not been able to figure out, till this day. Still, it remains to me a hypothesis, wisdom and knowledge that I've gained. I believe the concept of heaven and hell to determine morality seems very relevant and important to the thoughts and actions all humans experience & its not something that we can truly fathom That wisdom and knowledge may be for 'God' alone. Thats just my concept of reality, which most likely will evolve with any given increase of my knowledge and understanding. Everyone, i believe has been indoctrinated to believe in whatever concepts they've been taught or forced to learn(whatever the case may be), even me, myself have been indoctrinated to a certain extent. That is what my current reality is based on.
"Rejecting Allah = Rejecting the real world as the real world" I can't know with 100% certainty that this world is "real" in some absolute sense and I accept that I may be a brain in a vat. However that is irrelevant to my everyday life and I have no reason to believe I am in the matrix. What does matter is the consequences of my actions in this world, whatever it may be. I suppose I am effectively acting on the assumption that this world is "real". I see the axiom that Allah exists as superfluous.
"but to claim the great pumpkin exists I need to be aware of mythologies, or legends, or some type of understanding of English culture" And to claim Allah exists don't we need to have some type of understanding as well? I don't quite understand this point about what he's calling "information transfer".
"If God said X, then X is true." This is a solid foundation? How do you know if this a true statement? Because God says it's true? What am I missing here?
wala zikrullahu akbar... Remembering ALLAH with much saying of LA ILAHA ILLALAH..not 10/100 a day..but in millions throughout ones life..that will definitely protect your iman/faith.Also read selawat on the prophet much and often and seek forgiveness much and often...when i say much it means hundreds or thousands throughout the day ...With all the evil influences seen and unseen around us..we need to ...............
If you actually listened to his speeches you would know that sometimes he becomes shy of using complicated words for fear of not saying something people can't understand. Maybe you didn't understand them yourself :D
he is using 'fancy' words to try and impress the illiterate ... but to anyone with an education he is talking utter gibberish. laughable reasoning through using words out of context ... what an utter joke.
You're right, he probably doesn't even realise what he is trying to reference. He strikes me as someone who is quite delusional .. he fancies himself as some type of intellectual powerhouse lol I'm sure the illiterates who make up his audience are impressed by all those 'big' words :)
keep up the good work Hamza. In this modern era, the muslims are being tested in very hard way because Allah want to see our sincerity and patients towards him to see if we still have our emaan. The Atheist are lost soul with no guidance because they expect to see Allah or Divine Being to appear right in front of them. Allah will never reveal himself no matter what because He has nothing to lose, but we have everything to lose once we stop believing in Him. When the time comes, all sorts of law of science will be diminish and worthless. And that time the unbelievers or Atheist will say "this is beyond the law of physics". That time everyone will be thinking about themselves. This are the challengers that we have to face when Allah give us intellectual, He ask us to choose, thus He send all the Prophet to convey the Messages but the unbelievers has long started from the earliest Prophet because of their ignorant that only base on logic. We as a muslim, we have to accept the fact that we tried our best to persuade the unbelievers but is up to Allah to open your heart or not. Like Hamza said, we dont have to prove anything. If we keep on proving, the unbelievers will still be unbelievers as well. Anyway, May Allah protect us all and May He guide us on the straight path. Don't let the worldly life deceive you Oo mankind, remember your time to the grave is very near. There is no turning back once you are 6 feet under. That is the time NO human or your science can safe you or hear you.
Many people have been deluded to this idea of scientific “morality”, “liberty”, and “logic” that is only based on emotional as well as unnatural notions... This, of course, not because of science in itself, it’s because some people misconceived the things around us... Any real intellectual and rational individuals know the reality that science doesn’t call for any atheistic beliefs nor dismantling the existence of Allah, the Almighty...
I am an agnostic, I consider existence of god is irrelevant in human life. But I like Hamza. I am ok if someone took the path of religion by convinced by logic. I am against indoctrination. People must have right to choose, right to express their view.
Imagine if an atheist were to say "unfortunately there is approximately 1.5 billion Muslims on this planet". Imagine the outcry by Muslims. How are you any better than a person calling every Muslim a terrorist, when you're the one painting all atheists with the same brush? Don't confuse discrimination/racism with atheism. If anything, religion has fueled greater divisions between people. Believing in god nowadays is as default a position as believing the Sun revolved around the Earth during Greek civilization. Hamza Tzortzis is at best a pseudo-intellectual. I don't blame certain Muslims for following him, since I assume they are even less intelligent than he is in the field of philosophy and science.
Causation is more philosophical than scentific. In philosophy of science causation is an inference same way causation is an inference for the cause of the universe
This is the same question I ask atheists. If they really know that they are right, why shouting at others view? Atheist pathetically shouts on religion 10 times more than religious ppls do. Look at an atheist page and then look at a religious page. You'll see difference
@@commandar88 No its not. It's called education, When you question something. And if there's something that you can't get an answer to, its totally upto you to follow that which you like. Islam has no solution to this problem if it does then tell me, What is Islam's position on people not wanting to believe in it (islam) or follow it?
No information transfer is required to believe in the god of Islam? Hmmmm, I'm pretty sure the Qur'an qualifies as something that transfers information >.>...
@王芳Wang Fang Intellectual dishonesty at its best... This is why there even is a punishment for disbelief... Y'all are literally closing your eyes and ears to the Muslims when they bring arguments for Islam... Anyways, may Allah The Almighty guide you.
Religion's premise is illogical & if the premise is illogical, every single premise that follows is automatically illogical & dismissible ! Whenever you put forth a proposition that God exists, in actuality, you're not really putting forth a proposition that God exists, you're just saying consciousness exists without energy or matter, which lives forever, knows all things & has all power etc etc You can't just make up a rule & say " God exists! ", what you're actually saying when you say such is that, " Infinite, all wise, all knowing, all powerful, benevolent, virtuous, perfect consciousness can exist without material form, without central evidence, without energy traces or anything like that! If you do put forth ^such a proposition^, if you accept such as truth, that consciousness can exists with out matter, energy or biological constraints, then there's absolutely no reason to believe that only *one* of those "beings" exist! The burden of proof lies with those that made the initial assertion - which is that God exist. If they insist that it is a *fact*, they *must prove it* before it can be a *fact*. The *Atheist* does not have the burden to prove anything. To claim that because one cannot disprove the initial assertion, that it becomes fact, is an argument of ignorance. This Tzorrtzis character is a dunce! He's basically saying, God/Allah is super natural, outside the universe & can't be explained with the most intellectual form of inquiry known to man in the 21 century, which is *"scientific based inquiry"* & calls that intellectual tranquillity ?? I pity such reasoning, i truly do!
Muslim604 theres no new atheism. Atheism is nothing Is just a defenition - the lack of believe in god I bet with you that you dont see atheist preaching Like: "Atheist's burn the Quarans" OR "Atheist's kill all the believers" That shit doesnt exist, what is happening is that now people are clamming more then before that they don't believe in a god witch some years ago that didnt happen or like Census asking if they were religious or not, so no theres no movement or action or preaching of it. Theres just non believers who dont even waste time thinking about god they just do their life normaly like my self.
***** they are giving there on opinions, do they cement what i already believe ? sure - but theres stuff i dont agree with them when it's a muslim listenning to a preacher they take it like its fucking gold
***** And about the takbir, normaly they do that after a statment is made, and is like an agreement thing like, you say one thing and someone says takbir, and everybody goes allah akbar. Its like agreing to what the preacher is saying at least in my view maybe to you is just a crazy person shouting out takbir in the middle of a preacher talk.
I pray that you are guided to the imams of the Ahlulbayt. You need Imam Ali a.s wise sayings , the true torch bearer of carrying Islamic tuitions of the prophets
I am an atheist who has long been impressed with Mr Tzortzis' speaking abilities. I enjoy his lectures very much and I think he is one of the best apologists for Islam in the world today. If he could embrace logic and reason he would be a powerful force for atheism. :-)
Well when you think about it all religion is the same as the next science gives us a far better understanding about our existence than religion ever has lol science looks for the point in existence and religion just makes you believe without questioning it lol
@Abdulrahman Why it's just an up dated version of the bible no disrespect but I already know enough not to believe in that God maybe you should question the book and question your God
@@hanalane6865 if you believe science answers everything then you dont believe science. Maybe you should question science and understand the philosophy of science
"Hello my choir. Atheism is a problem now, because atheists are reasoning with Muslims into making them doubt their beliefs. So today I want to go over the epistemology of what we Muslims believe and how we arrive at those beliefs. Is everybody ready? Here we go. God's word is true, so whatever he says must be true. Everyone clear? Great!" Oh dear.
@@whisperingwhiskerss4877 so can almost anyone else, including yourself. Mostly, only someone who already made their mind about the speaker sticks around after ten minutes of introduction.... I don't think this message was intended only to such audience. What is your point?
%6 atheists in Saudi Arabia is just an exaggeration, I don’t say that there are no atheists here but it’s far from that percent, but there are a lot of Muslims (in name at least) who don’t care about religion and think all religions are the same etc and even those are few but the threat is that they are increasing and they are active.
Allah is not an axiomatic truth, neither is any religion, the closesed belief to the axiom was Buddhism because they made no claim to any assumption of what the higher power was, the only axiom at the core is that the universe and reality came from something and somewhere, the second you go in to the realm of its god, its many gods you have moved off the axiom of what's universally accepted as truth, if you assume its this particular god who commands you to be this particular way or its these particular specific gods that want you to behave this particular specific way then you are now completely divorced from it and completely delusional if you have nothing to base that assumption on that without a doubt concludes it or concludes it enough to be logically sound.further more the more you move away from that axiom without building off it with reason beyond the book said so the more and more likely you are to be so wildly incorrect. Don't get me wrong there is a lot of wisdom in many religious text , metaphorse that cut close to the core of the Axiom's of being, and you can see them in many religions isolated from each other but when you take a literal interpretation instead of a meta one you are A missing the meta truth B making an assumption so unlikely to be true, in fact I have been more compelled and aww inspired by religious text then I could ever dream of when I was a theist and took them literally. Its like I was pointing to the ocean and saying that's the fish, no that's just a body of water for the fish to exist in, its no more representative of what the fish is then oxygen is representative of you, religious text is never the litural truth its at best just a body for exerstentual metaphorical and philosophical truth to be articulated in.
@@hanalane6865 Holding logically unproven or invalid premises is dogma. - Atheism is holding the premise that there is no God. - The premise that there is no God is unproven and invalid. - Therefore Atheism is dogmatic.
Dein Kommentar ist ungefähr so wie als hätte ein Professor 2 Stunden einen Vortrag gehalten und dann bricht ein betrunkener Student ein lallend "Ach, sie haben doch gar keine Ahnung." Ironisch wenn man bedenkt, dass ihr euch immer so als etwas besseres fühlt wenn das alles ist, was ihr drauf habt.
@@manieralocked Do solltest aus deiner persönlichen Erfahrung als betrunkener Student nicht auf andere schliessen. Wenn du überhaupt einen Vorlesungssaal jemals von innen gesehen hast. Der Hass und das Elend das Religionen verursacht haben und noch tun sollte dich eine Weile innehalten und Demütig werden lassen......
@@newheavyion Dann bring mir mal eine Studie bzw eine Statistik wo man ganz deutlich erkennt, dass Religion ein häufiger Hauptgrund für Krieg ist. Und sowieso bist du immer noch nicht auf einen einzigen Punkt aus dem Video eingegangen und betätigst einfach nur leere Aussagen.
@@manieralocked Weil es weder mein Wunsch noch Aufgabe ist auf jeden Punkt einzeln einzugehen. Das hier ist der Kommentarbereich eines TH-cam-Videos und keine Diskussionsseite. Und deine geforderte Studie/Statistik werde ich für dich auch nicht ergooglen, das kannst du schön auch alleine machen (was du natürlich NICHT machen wirst).
@@newheavyion Trotzdem sagst du einfach dass es bullshit ist, obwohl du absolut keinen Grund gibst, so etwas zu glauben. Außerdem kann man sich diese Statistik ganz schnell ergoogeln, nämlich steht in der Encyclopedia of war, dass von allen 1763 historischen Konflikten 123 den Hauptgrund Religion haben, was c.a 7% entspricht. Gerngeschehen ;)
"No nationalism in Islam" end quote.
But what does really mean when Muslims all live in nation states, pay taxes to nation states, etc. I think this statement often needs to be explained clearly. And Allah knows best.
lol at all the atheists in the comments getting mad at Hamza. No actual rebuttal - just ad hominems, tears, and red faces.
maybe it's because hamza didn't even give a good argument...
have you thought about that?
Proof?
+NyeusiMuslim
he talks about fitrah as if it is something important but it is just a form of cognitive bias.
@@banana6428 Even our belief and experience that we are conscious beings is nothing more than a cognitive bias. What's your point?
@@conversationnation1425 Idk man, I forgot what this whole thing was about anymore
My Iman just skyrocketed after watching this. SubhanAllah. All praise for Allah who is worthy of worship.
Unless the new generation is satisfied, they won't stop doubting the religion ...
1:25 I'd argue it's specifically Christians... I'm Christian and I go to videos like these because they have less atheists in the comment section
I do the same thing!
There is no god but Allah
That's what they all say lmao
Yalai omer+
There is no god. ....... you should have stopped there.
Nice Zelda reference.
@@fatmaramadan6928 the direct statement 'there's no god" is non sense. Science can not have conclusion before they find some consciousness singularity
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It is as factual as the statement there is only one god,allah.
Why are you butt hurt atheists saying he doesn’t know what he’s saying cuz he’s using fancy words?! He has more degrees than y’all could ever acquire in your life . Saying he’s speaking gibberish lol. Listen to what he is actually saying without your emotions clouding your judgement
The reason why religion as a concept is faulty is that there is no way to prove which religion is true and which is false. If we are to assume that only one religion is real, we wouldn't know which it was. There is no physical way to prove it and the only way to possibly prove it is if you were able to die and then come back to life with your mind still intact. When a body dies the brain dies almost instantly. This is the greatest hurdle in proving something like the afterlife or a god.
What makes the intellectual ground from which you view and judge all religions any more objective, universal or unbiased than religion?
I love brother tzortsis and subhoor may Allah SWT give them resounding success in this life and the hereafter.
I don't even understand what this topic means. Is Christianity natural? Is Judaism natural? What is "natural" ?
Topic is that atheism is unatural
A billion atheists? You've got to be counting Buddhists right? Because excluding them, how do we get anywhere near that?
the hour will come when people are unware of it, now think how will people be unaware of it.
just think.
May Allah protect you and guide us all....Allahumma Ameen
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SubhanAllah this man is really guided you can hear it in the wisdom he is speaking.
#877-Why-Islam
"If God said X then X is true"
Could you please explain what that means
It means that if Allah says something then its the truth and nothing can change that
@@mehmet20003 Wow. That was deep.
Why not ask God himself when you die?
A debate between atheist and a believer will come to point that atheist will say ‘ok I agree that the system is highly complex to be came in existence by itself and was created by God, so who than created God?” The answer is “No body knows”. So why not ask God almighty himself when you die.
But If this life is a test by God, and the good doer will go to heaven and the bad to hell, than why risk it??
Why God hide him? Because the creation cannot tolerate to See Him. Can you witness Atomic bomb at 6 feet away ? you will be vaporized. So I m saying that God who created Sun and million times bigger starts,galaxies etc etc. Imagine how magnificent will be Himself who created them. Can you withstand seeing him? We can sure answer not in this life.
The meaning of God is uncreated because he is the founder of this complex creation.
In islam , we believe we'll see god in the paradise. So seeing god is a gift for those who believe. And for me what is the best moment than seeing who created me.
Test is the law of nature. God knows everything because he's out of time. Test is for us to know if where we are in our faith.
If there's no creator then why all these happened?
Oh people believe The only one God who created each and everyone. God just want simple from you and that is your heart.
A Must Watch.
Hamza Believing in the Believable and not Believing in the Unbelievable is about as natural as it gets.
This brother #hamza has broke the bones of their prophets (prophets of athiesm) so all who's talking against him are either uneducated or intllectually dishonest.
Why go atheist, i mean isn't that the complete opposite of religious extremism & why do atheists believe in the notion that evil is real if they don't believe in god, it doesn't make logical sense to me. You can't disprove, nor prove the existence of god, so why go from one extreme to another. Shouldn't there be a balance to be kept in check...truth can be one of the many concepts that keeps your balance.
***** Thats a good point brother, we shouldn't believe in something before doing extensive amounts of research before coming to a conclusion in our own selves. Everything should be looked at critically and carefully if we are to find the truth i suppose... i never used to believe in god or anything for that fact.. but that all changed when i started seeing how the world is and what people can do or say to one another also looking at history and creation helps to humble myself with our current reality we live in.
true believer sorry, i'm not quite sure what you meant by that statement
true believer well since you seem eager to know my position on what I've found, i can teach you what information i have accumulated so far. My reality is based upon my external observable findings in my environment and what is proven to be scientific fact which is always subject to change. I'm skeptical of religious teachings but i do not discount them completely unless they appear to sound completely ludicrous.
According to some statisticians, life on planet earth couldn't have come about through random mutation from chemicals bonding throughout billions of years and eventually forming to see what we have today.
Which may indicate another theory(creationism) but i like to leave room for more information to be taken into account so i can increase my foundation of knowledge on this subject.
It's a rather wide range of information an individual can come across when trying to discover the origins of the universe and whether or not it was created by an omnipotent,omniscient being that is outside of time and space. The truth of what most religions teach is that our thoughts and emotions can be applied to angels/demons or God or perhaps all together as 'one' tampering with us in the spirit world, which can be a highly interesting hypothesis, as it could explain a lot of what modern science today has not been able to figure out, till this day. Still, it remains to me a hypothesis, wisdom and knowledge that I've gained.
I believe the concept of heaven and hell to determine morality seems very relevant and important to the thoughts and actions all humans experience & its not something that we can truly fathom That wisdom and knowledge may be for 'God' alone. Thats just my concept of reality, which most likely will evolve with any given increase of my knowledge and understanding.
Everyone, i believe has been indoctrinated to believe in whatever concepts they've been taught or forced to learn(whatever the case may be), even me, myself have been indoctrinated to a certain extent. That is what my current reality is based on.
If something cannot be proven, it shall be regarded as false unless sufficient evidence can be provided.
What happened to the epidemic of "the fastest growing religion?" atheism is just as much of a religion as NOT playing football is a sport.
"Rejecting Allah = Rejecting the real world as the real world"
I can't know with 100% certainty that this world is "real" in some absolute sense and I accept that I may be a brain in a vat. However that is irrelevant to my everyday life and I have no reason to believe I am in the matrix. What does matter is the consequences of my actions in this world, whatever it may be.
I suppose I am effectively acting on the assumption that this world is "real". I see the axiom that Allah exists as superfluous.
"but to claim the great pumpkin exists I need to be aware of mythologies, or legends, or some type of understanding of English culture"
And to claim Allah exists don't we need to have some type of understanding as well? I don't quite understand this point about what he's calling "information transfer".
"If God said X, then X is true."
This is a solid foundation? How do you know if this a true statement? Because God says it's true? What am I missing here?
He means if you establish first the quran is from God first then whatever it says goes.
Anyone else want to see Hamza Tzortzis debate William Lane Craig?
wala zikrullahu akbar... Remembering ALLAH with much saying of LA ILAHA ILLALAH..not 10/100 a day..but in millions throughout ones life..that will definitely protect your iman/faith.Also read selawat on the prophet much and often and seek forgiveness much and often...when i say much it means hundreds or thousands throughout the day ...With all the evil influences seen and unseen around us..we need to ...............
really? la ilaha illlalah .....shit it didn´t work. now i´m an atheist! Why????? Why????????? Allah? Why???????
@@stiryotype4695 to seek rewards. DUH
@@stiryotype4695 because you have free will.
@@stiryotype4695 your iman cant get stronger if you have none.
the day i believe the earth is flat, please, hurt me hard.
seems to be a wannabe philosopher and intellectual throwing around words which he doesn't understand himself. ludicrous.
If you actually listened to his speeches you would know that sometimes he becomes shy of using complicated words for fear of not saying something people can't understand. Maybe you didn't understand them yourself :D
he is using 'fancy' words to try and impress the illiterate ... but to anyone with an education he is talking utter gibberish. laughable reasoning through using words out of context ... what an utter joke.
The dude is shifting the burden of proof on to the atheist to prove the positive proposition of a god's existence.
You're right, he probably doesn't even realise what he is trying to reference. He strikes me as someone who is quite delusional .. he fancies himself as some type of intellectual powerhouse lol I'm sure the illiterates who make up his audience are impressed by all those 'big' words :)
@@zatarawood3588 all I see is negative remarks but no real substance. Adhominem attacks is just how an illiterate talks
Its tough on Muslims. You are not allowed to kill disbelievers in the west.
keep up the good work Hamza. In this modern era, the muslims are being tested in very hard way because Allah want to see our sincerity and patients towards him to see if we still have our emaan. The Atheist are lost soul with no guidance because they expect to see Allah or Divine Being to appear right in front of them. Allah will never reveal himself no matter what because He has nothing to lose, but we have everything to lose once we stop believing in Him. When the time comes, all sorts of law of science will be diminish and worthless. And that time the unbelievers or Atheist will say "this is beyond the law of physics". That time everyone will be thinking about themselves. This are the challengers that we have to face when Allah give us intellectual, He ask us to choose, thus He send all the Prophet to convey the Messages but the unbelievers has long started from the earliest Prophet because of their ignorant that only base on logic. We as a muslim, we have to accept the fact that we tried our best to persuade the unbelievers but is up to Allah to open your heart or not. Like Hamza said, we dont have to prove anything. If we keep on proving, the unbelievers will still be unbelievers as well. Anyway, May Allah protect us all and May He guide us on the straight path. Don't let the worldly life deceive you Oo mankind, remember your time to the grave is very near. There is no turning back once you are 6 feet under. That is the time NO human or your science can safe you or hear you.
Many people have been deluded to this idea of scientific “morality”, “liberty”, and “logic” that is only based on emotional as well as unnatural notions... This, of course, not because of science in itself, it’s because some people misconceived the things around us... Any real intellectual and rational individuals know the reality that science doesn’t call for any atheistic beliefs nor dismantling the existence of Allah, the Almighty...
this dude is awesome.
The amount of atheists commenting in this video is too damn high
Would you rather live in an echo chamber and only hear ideas you already agree with?
It's not high enough
Nora Chakaf Lol 4 of the most active replied, I was checking other people’s reply sections and most of these guys popped up
I am an agnostic, I consider existence of god is irrelevant in human life. But I like Hamza. I am ok if someone took the path of religion by convinced by logic. I am against indoctrination. People must have right to choose, right to express their view.
If God exists, why wouldn't he try ro communicate with His creation?
Your display is disturbing
Which country is Hamza in?
He is too smart. May Allah give him long life.
To know Allah, is to know yourself.
Imagine if an atheist were to say "unfortunately there is approximately 1.5 billion Muslims on this planet". Imagine the outcry by Muslims. How are you any better than a person calling every Muslim a terrorist, when you're the one painting all atheists with the same brush? Don't confuse discrimination/racism with atheism. If anything, religion has fueled greater divisions between people.
Believing in god nowadays is as default a position as believing the Sun revolved around the Earth during Greek civilization. Hamza Tzortzis is at best a pseudo-intellectual. I don't blame certain Muslims for following him, since I assume they are even less intelligent than he is in the field of philosophy and science.
so god is outside of the scientific domain and yet you use the cause & effect to prove his existence.
Causation in an atemporal perspective
Causation is more philosophical than scentific. In philosophy of science causation is an inference same way causation is an inference for the cause of the universe
this man make me smile
If Islam is so good, then Why is this guy so worried about Atheism?
This is the same question I ask atheists. If they really know that they are right, why shouting at others view? Atheist pathetically shouts on religion 10 times more than religious ppls do. Look at an atheist page and then look at a religious page. You'll see difference
Because atheism is unatural
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If it's unnatural, then Why is it happening?
@@Bob-hd5js primary source and secondary source socialization and popularization
@@commandar88 No its not.
It's called education, When you question something. And if there's something that you can't get an answer to, its totally upto you to follow that which you like.
Islam has no solution to this problem if it does then tell me, What is Islam's position on people not wanting to believe in it (islam) or follow it?
The word „fitrah“ seems to be of kushitic origin. Brought back by muslims returning from Abyssinia.
No information transfer is required to believe in the god of Islam? Hmmmm, I'm pretty sure the Qur'an qualifies as something that transfers information >.>...
Did you sleep through the rest of the video? That's not very academic.
@王芳Wang Fang I'm going to ask you to reconsider and perhaps look into the religion the way it was preached originally by Muhammad PBUH.
@王芳Wang Fang wow what an academic statement!
@王芳Wang Fang Intellectual dishonesty at its best... This is why there even is a punishment for disbelief... Y'all are literally closing your eyes and ears to the Muslims when they bring arguments for Islam... Anyways, may Allah The Almighty guide you.
Is chopping peoples heads off “natural “…?
what is your argument?
26:09 wonderful advice
Wa 'alaykumussalaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu
Religion's premise is illogical & if the premise is illogical, every single premise that follows is automatically illogical & dismissible !
Whenever you put forth a proposition that God exists, in actuality, you're not really putting forth a proposition that God exists, you're just saying consciousness exists without energy or matter, which lives forever, knows all things & has all power etc etc
You can't just make up a rule & say " God exists! ", what you're actually saying when you say such is that, " Infinite, all wise, all knowing, all powerful, benevolent, virtuous, perfect consciousness can exist without material form, without central evidence, without energy traces or anything like that!
If you do put forth ^such a proposition^, if you accept such as truth, that consciousness can exists with out matter, energy or biological constraints, then there's absolutely no reason to believe that only *one* of those "beings" exist!
The burden of proof lies with those that made the initial assertion - which is that God exist. If they insist that it is a *fact*, they *must prove it* before it can be a *fact*. The *Atheist* does not have the burden to prove anything. To claim that because one cannot disprove the initial assertion, that it becomes fact, is an argument of ignorance.
This Tzorrtzis character is a dunce! He's basically saying, God/Allah is super natural, outside the universe & can't be explained with the most intellectual form of inquiry known to man in the 21 century, which is *"scientific based inquiry"* & calls that intellectual tranquillity ??
I pity such reasoning, i truly do!
we stand sholder sholder this giant man tong of truth is hamza. keep smile bro you got truth as wepon.
well done Hamza for showing the light to all ignorant out there.
I'm not atheist but it's not a religion
SubhanaAllah
theres no sutch thing as an atheist movement, but ok whatever
***** It's called "New Atheism."
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theres no new atheism. Atheism is nothing
Is just a defenition - the lack of believe in god
I bet with you that you dont see atheist preaching
Like: "Atheist's burn the Quarans"
OR
"Atheist's kill all the believers"
That shit doesnt exist, what is happening is that now people are clamming more then before that they don't believe in a god witch some years ago that didnt happen or like Census asking if they were religious or not, so no theres no movement or action or preaching of it. Theres just non believers who dont even waste time thinking about god they just do their life normaly like my self.
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they are giving there on opinions, do they cement what i already believe ? sure - but theres stuff i dont agree with them when it's a muslim listenning to a preacher they take it like its fucking gold
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And about the takbir, normaly they do that after a statment is made, and is like an agreement thing like, you say one thing and someone says takbir, and everybody goes allah akbar. Its like agreing to what the preacher is saying at least in my view maybe to you is just a crazy person shouting out takbir in the middle of a preacher talk.
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Muslims insult too dont be an hipocrite i have video proof if u want
Achhado an la ilaha illa alah wa ana mohammad rassol ALLAH
Hamza: Religion is natural and atheism is not.
However, keep in mind that rape is also natural.
Great speech, God bless you brother
I pray that you are guided to the imams of the Ahlulbayt.
You need Imam Ali a.s wise sayings , the true torch bearer of carrying Islamic tuitions of the prophets
islam is complete on prophet muhammad s.a.w. other things are political so please stop ur politics
I am an atheist who has long been impressed with Mr Tzortzis' speaking abilities. I enjoy his lectures very much and I think he is one of the best apologists for Islam in the world today. If he could embrace logic and reason he would be a powerful force for atheism. :-)
are u ex muslim?
are u ex muslim?
how is he illogical?
Well when you think about it all religion is the same as the next science gives us a far better understanding about our existence than religion ever has lol science looks for the point in existence and religion just makes you believe without questioning it lol
@Abdulrahman Why it's just an up dated version of the bible no disrespect but I already know enough not to believe in that God maybe you should question the book and question your God
Can you explain consciousness with science @hana lane? Not the easy part but the hard part of consciousness?
@@hanalane6865 if you believe science answers everything then you dont believe science. Maybe you should question science and understand the philosophy of science
Science isn’t a believe, science is a way of finding truth not that science is truth. But u believe wat u want
"Hello my choir. Atheism is a problem now, because atheists are reasoning with Muslims into making them doubt their beliefs. So today I want to go over the epistemology of what we Muslims believe and how we arrive at those beliefs. Is everybody ready? Here we go. God's word is true, so whatever he says must be true. Everyone clear? Great!"
Oh dear.
i'd love to see a debate between you and hamza if you're so much smarter than him.
Ma'Sha'Allah ( ماشاءالله) Hamza Tzortzis is doing a wonderful job. May Allah bless him.
Respectfully I listened up to the first 10 minutes, and I feel he's still on introduction for something...
I’m sure you can do a lot better, since you can put a sentence together.😒
@@whisperingwhiskerss4877 so can almost anyone else, including yourself. Mostly, only someone who already made their mind about the speaker sticks around after ten minutes of introduction.... I don't think this message was intended only to such audience. What is your point?
Is Atheism Unnatural NO ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!
Muslim... Are you scare? Don t worry we don t do the same think you do.
%6 atheists in Saudi Arabia is just an exaggeration, I don’t say that there are no atheists here but it’s far from that percent, but there are a lot of Muslims (in name at least) who don’t care about religion and think all religions are the same etc and even those are few but the threat is that they are increasing and they are active.
Masha'Allah
not quite so!
Allah is not an axiomatic truth, neither is any religion, the closesed belief to the axiom was Buddhism because they made no claim to any assumption of what the higher power was, the only axiom at the core is that the universe and reality came from something and somewhere, the second you go in to the realm of its god, its many gods you have moved off the axiom of what's universally accepted as truth, if you assume its this particular god who commands you to be this particular way or its these particular specific gods that want you to behave this particular specific way then you are now completely divorced from it and completely delusional if you have nothing to base that assumption on that without a doubt concludes it or concludes it enough to be logically sound.further more the more you move away from that axiom without building off it with reason beyond the book said so the more and more likely you are to be so wildly incorrect. Don't get me wrong there is a lot of wisdom in many religious text , metaphorse that cut close to the core of the Axiom's of being, and you can see them in many religions isolated from each other but when you take a literal interpretation instead of a meta one you are A missing the meta truth B making an assumption so unlikely to be true, in fact I have been more compelled and aww inspired by religious text then I could ever dream of when I was a theist and took them literally. Its like I was pointing to the ocean and saying that's the fish, no that's just a body of water for the fish to exist in, its no more representative of what the fish is then oxygen is representative of you, religious text is never the litural truth its at best just a body for exerstentual metaphorical and philosophical truth to be articulated in.
here comes the coping atheists!!🤣
Atheism may have not been a religion but now it is
No it ain't
@@hanalane6865 Holding logically unproven or invalid premises is dogma.
- Atheism is holding the premise that there is no God.
- The premise that there is no God is unproven and invalid.
- Therefore Atheism is dogmatic.
@@conversationnation1425 Atheism is the lack of belief in a God or gods.It does not say 'God does not exist'.Lack of belief is not a belief.
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those muslims would have left islam anyway.
Tripe!
LOL! Praise Hitchens.
was für ein gequirlter bullshit
Dein Kommentar ist ungefähr so wie als hätte ein Professor 2 Stunden einen Vortrag gehalten und dann bricht ein betrunkener Student ein lallend "Ach, sie haben doch gar keine Ahnung." Ironisch wenn man bedenkt, dass ihr euch immer so als etwas besseres fühlt wenn das alles ist, was ihr drauf habt.
@@manieralocked Do solltest aus deiner persönlichen Erfahrung als betrunkener Student nicht auf andere schliessen. Wenn du überhaupt einen Vorlesungssaal jemals von innen gesehen hast. Der Hass und das Elend das Religionen verursacht haben und noch tun sollte dich eine Weile innehalten und Demütig werden lassen......
@@newheavyion Dann bring mir mal eine Studie bzw eine Statistik wo man ganz deutlich erkennt, dass Religion ein häufiger Hauptgrund für Krieg ist. Und sowieso bist du immer noch nicht auf einen einzigen Punkt aus dem Video eingegangen und betätigst einfach nur leere Aussagen.
@@manieralocked Weil es weder mein Wunsch noch Aufgabe ist auf jeden Punkt einzeln einzugehen. Das hier ist der Kommentarbereich eines TH-cam-Videos und keine Diskussionsseite. Und deine geforderte Studie/Statistik werde ich für dich auch nicht ergooglen, das kannst du schön auch alleine machen (was du natürlich NICHT machen wirst).
@@newheavyion Trotzdem sagst du einfach dass es bullshit ist, obwohl du absolut keinen Grund gibst, so etwas zu glauben. Außerdem kann man sich diese Statistik ganz schnell ergoogeln, nämlich steht in der Encyclopedia of war, dass von allen 1763 historischen Konflikten 123 den Hauptgrund Religion haben, was c.a 7% entspricht. Gerngeschehen ;)
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