I bought the Cordoba Stage
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- This is the new Cordoba Stage. I feel like this guitar was made for me.
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Thank you for adding unplugged. This is the most important metric when buying a cross over guitar.
I watched this video last week and ordered one immediately. It is awesome. Thank you for putting this together and sharing, Alex.
Awesome! I think I deserve a commission...
This is probably the best review of this guitar I have seen. Thank you for a great review!
Glad you liked it!
@@alexrockwellmusic enjoyed the review. Thanks 👍
Noob question here because I'm relatively new to playing guitar and have only played electric. Is the spacing between the strings like a lot more than say on an electric guitar like Ibanez? Asking because I'd like to know how difficult it would be for beginners/ intermediates to get used to the difference and switching back and forth.
Lastly, the action and string tension of metal string acoustics were always an issue for me on the one's I did briefly try. Can the action be set really low on this one? And do nylon strings help with comfort/ playability?
Waited ages but I collected a Cordoba Stage from the shop a few days ago. Early days in terms of playing, but it looks fabulous and as far as I can tell it's well put together.
That's awesome! Thanks brother! I got one today, and found this video. I'm stoked to get it!
I have been intrigued by this guitar. Just happened to come across your video, which is really great. I'm buying one! Thanks for all the info!
Dude! I watch a ridiculous number of videos of every instrument I’m interested in. Excellent job! Very well spoken with no fluff. The big question no one before you answered was “how does it sound unplugged.” I like to sit in my lazy boy and play quietly after the family has gone to bed. I had a solid body classical that you could barely hear at all without headphones and a headphone amp. This is at least getting an in person audition for my collection. Thank you.
Thanks! I honestly don't think it sounds amazing unplugged, but that's not really what it's meant for anyway. Regardless, I think it sounds good enough for quiet practicing. Nothing about it beats a proper classical, of course.
@@alexrockwellmusicbut plugged in, does it beat a classical guitar?
@@alexrockwellmusic Alex, please tell me, is it possible to practice on it at night if play quietly? Or is it better to buy Yamaha Silent?
It'll be a great added and creative tool for you, with its cool range of tones - and for various applications. May it bring a ton of musical inspiration and creation!
I agree!
Excellent review, thank you for your honesty. Will be purchasing one soon.
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you so much for the review! I just bought the blue burst limited. Guitar Center locally does not have any and showed no interest in having them. So with that said I ordered online. You helped me make that decision. My hats off to you for your generosity.
played one last week and was surprised at how loud it is acoustically
just ordered one, can't freaking wait!
Thanks for that little unplugged moment- I looked at a dozen videos as I’m thinking about buying one and your the first who did an unplugged test. Cheers
Thanks for the specs and sweet playing.
This sounds great unplugged!
i will get one super soon. maybe a month. need this for recording FOR REAL. amazing playing and thank you for sharing.
you play 'Arirang' so gracefully. Thank you!
Thanks! That's from my own arrangement
I ordered mine last night and cannot wait!!
I had being searching for live tone of this guitar with unplugged. Great review and it was very helpful. Thanks.
And arirang! It was good too.
i’m buying one, thanks for the insights and helping me decide on a nylon string to get without waiting for the tim henson signature!
Mine should be here in two weeks! So stoked. Great review man
Hope you love it!
Thank you for this exhaustif explanation
Hello, guitar maker here. While nylon guitars traditionally don't need truss rods, some makers may add them for longevity, as even nylon guitars suffer from neck bowing over a long period of time.
Since a lot of the setup happens by putting a twist in the fingerboard, if a neck bow happens without a truss rod long into the lifespan of the guitar, it could lead to the guitar needing a neck reset, using a heated metal beam. This process could take weeks if the neck woods are particularly dense and it's not an easy or cheap repair.
Great Demo Thanks
Great review and beautifull playing!!
I saw one of these at a local shop, and am going back to try out today... THANK YOU ALEX, for a wonderful video review, agree one of the best, and now I have an online source to be able to refer students to you in the future.
Re' the beginnings of this type of design, Chet Atkins had one model/per Gibson, which at the time felt to use just a few words "too thick," and an amazing Luthier in Phoenix, named Ron Carrriveau, who developed steel and classical models of what he called the "Eloustic" models. I bought a beautiful steel string that I used on my first guitar album "The Year of the Tiger.".. (Kenn Harris) released on cassette (remember those) in 1986 now remastered from Tape( cut and past was literally cut/splice/paste !!! >Dat>CD 2009>2023 Remastering... now on youtube music, and soon Apple & Spotify etc.in case anyone wants to hear this instrument in action.
I had asked Ron to customize the neck thinner and and to make the body more ergonomic. The guitar has 2 humbuckers and an acoustic piezo, and a custom electronic active system specifically designed to service the design, with a selector switch for different combination of pickups, and only a volume nob for each, and one for master volume tone was achieved by dialing in the natural tone of each pickup... the design included a chambered body and bracing to achieve acoustic tones. It was simply brilliant. I call this guitar "the Grey." Although the guitar pre customization that I bought was reviewed Guitar Player, April 2005, it was from a small shop that unfortunately, was not able to achieve commercial scale/success. Ron went back to full time teaching. He should be noted in the history of guitar making as an innovative and great luthier, wonderful human being, and brilliant innovator. Eventually Godin and Taylor with T5, Fender etc... developed their instruments in this evolution.
Now Cordova has what seems like a wonderful instrument.
Ron Carriveau's bio on line states he "started making guitars full time in 1968 at the Village Luthier, 1922 E. Hedrick St.,Tucson, Arizona . Carriveau also operated as Precision Guitar Works. Carriveau introduced the Eloustic models in the 1980s, these were versatile guitars with both magnetic and piezo pickups mounted on thin lightweight hollow bodies with no sound-hole and a unique transducing brace and bridge system."
Thank You Ron
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Thank You Alex
Kenn Harris
I'm back.
I'm so impressed with your brain that I came back to subscribe.
Love you man
Cliff
Thanks a lot!
Nice job reviewing!
Very informative, first review I've seen w/pedals.
Probably because running it through pedals is kinda dumb, but I'm down for it
It has a great sound. Thanks.
I LOVE my Cordoba C10. Went thru a bunch before I settled on it. Thinking I might give this a try
Well you gone and done it! Convinced me to buy one! My GC actually had two in stock and I put some money down on one until my mandolin sale goes through. Great review!!
Just got a GK studio negra a month ago. Love it. Great quality.
Awesome video! I've been shopping for a nylon string guitar and this was the main one that caught my eye. Sounds like it's time to pull the trigger. Thank you sir! Liked and subscribed for that.
Oh, I was just surprised because I haven't expected hearing Arirang from a guitar review video. And your review is very nice. I guess I try this guitar in a local shop soon.
Nice review, really interesting!! Thanks.
Great review!
We've seen the future!! I thought the same thing, "We need a guitar just like this." ESP also made one years back, but it was only available in Japan.
I want one for fingerstyle, such a cool instrument
Great review Alex. Didn't know about this guitar. I have always liked Cordoba guitars and have one of their GK Studio models. I gig mostly with nylon string guitars playing different fingerstyle arrangements (Earl Klugh style and others). My main guitar is a Takamine TC135, a "crossover" nylon. This Stage model reminds me of the old Gibson Chet Atkins CE model. Will definitely check one of these out and maybe buy. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
Great Great really really really great job. Thank you so much.
Chorus just sound really good
Dude, how on earth do you only have 2K subs? that is criminal! subbed! great video and now I need one of these...
Spread the word!
If I am not mistaken, the truss rod will make this guitar easier to manage traveling with, as the temperature and humidity changes can still cause issues even though the nylon strings don't exert a lot of force on the neck.
You're not mistaken. Adding truss rods to classical necks, while typically not necessary, doesn't hurt.
Cool beans.
I took up building stringed instruments in my retirement and definitely a nylon electric is on my 'next' list.
Great video, we’ll thought out and informative!
Thanks!
Dude, I just ran into this guitar last Saturday. I play on a Esteves Spanish guitar and was looking for a lighter nylon guitar with a smaller acoustic box knowing that I need to get into this type. I was blown away by the looks and the sound. I confess I have a very primitive knowledge on amplifying and electric guitar sounds and tricks and even less skills but do enjoy trying to learn how to play guitar. You impressed with your skills.
I had a c5, beautiful tone! Didn't like the scale length so sold it to a friend. He's actually got talent, so a good use of the universe's resources!
Thanks for the great video- happily subscribed
Good review and good sound. I Bojght one ready.
great video wow!
Wow so nice and I love cordoba as well I own my gk studio. Yes I like the truss rod helps with the temperatures and or neck relief
Wow, sounds amazing for this type of guitar. Maybe someday :)
Your a good player. This is the most inspiring video l have seen today.
Thanks a lot!
The more I play mine the more I love it . I did a good investment/ purchase for this and pair it with the lr Baggs venue direct box unit and a perfect combination and sound I am using a harbinger 8 inch powered speaker and with the direct box is perfect sound 🔊
The dirty pedals almost give a Jack White vibe. Pretty cool. I think the feedback on the distortion was the multiple mic pickups. I would turn those down/off when using distortion.
i want this guitar.
i guess i'll build one. it's been on my mind and this is the first review of one that i have seen. i knew it was a good idea!
got the planning wheels cranking now.
My plan too! Started the project years ago, might be time to pick it back up
Thank you for the pedal part. I always wondered what a classical guitar thru a Hendrix rig would sound like if possible. Always thought it’d be cool to combine nuance of nylon string w/ the textures of classic loud electric guitar, working the feedback and sustain and everything. The right person could really make it shine, I think
Great job….I want one!😃
Very nice!
This guitar might be a great candidate for some nylon classical guitar IRs (impulse response). Possibly turn a passable nylon sound into a great one that way?
Nice overview. I gig with the Goding Multiac Encore and its a great guitar but i'm tempted by one of these. I also have a C10 Parlour which is lovely hence the Cordoba temptation! Iplay with a thumpick trying my best to play Jerry Reed tunes (and failing!) so plugged in nylon is a sound i really like.
I've never played a Godin, so it's hard for me to compare. But at the Stage's price point it's hard to go wrong!
I upgraded to the fusion model 48mm neck! boom! love it even more now on my back knee or standing/jamming...
I want this guitar so bad. And that Syntax Error pedal gave such Amnesiac or Kid A vibes, it's awesome!
Man, it sucks not being able to afford new gear, haha.
Now, I wonder what this would sound like fretless. I want to experiment with fretless guitars and I don't know if traditional electrics would work well. It'd be a shame to ruin one of these to attempt it, though, since the neck seems to be set (and thus buying a neck would be impossible). Seeing the price I ABSOLUTELY will pick one up as soon as I'm able to!
Sounds like you can play around and practice with it unplugged? How does it sound unplugged in person compared to regular classical in terms of timbre? Thx for wonderful video - your enthusiasm is infectious :). And you called the Tim Hanson special! 😀
Yeah, I practice with it unplugged quite a bit actually. It terms of timbre, it's not anywhere near as pleasing as a regular classical, but how could it be? It mostly lacks a strong bass presence. Still, it sounds pleasing enough for quiet practicing.
Beautiful song, Arirang.
Wonderful demo. Highly informative. I have heard some criticism about the intonation. Any opinion on that? Thanks!
The intonation is solid in my opinion. On mine, the 1st and 6th strings are just a hair sharp at the 12th fret, which I suspect is due to a combination of the fretboard radius and the arc of the saddle. The outside strings are displaced a little bit more than the inside strings when pressing down. Maybe the saddle could be reshaped a little to correct it, but it's certainly not even close to being unplayable.
Great demo. Presumably by turning down the body blend can be used to reduce feedback at high volumes
I have yet to have any feedback issues other than with the distortion pedal (that was supposed to be a joke). Even at a high volume, I've only been able to get it to feed back by holding the guitar right up to the speaker.
@@alexrockwellmusic Thanks for the info I think I'm going to get one
This thing with some light chorus would make some great sounding bossa nova
For sure. It sounds great with chorus.
Love it
Way back in the day the Gibson SST, CE & CEC. Godin and Carvin had thinbody acoustics as well. Niche market that comes and goes.
For sure a trussrod makes a lot of sense also on a nylon stringed guitar !
I wish my other nylons had one.
This way one can finetune and adjust the action to ones personal taste independent of the string gauge just like with an electric guitar.
Never could get used to the tone of this guitar. Returned it to Sweetwater and bought the Cordoba fusion orchestra instead . Awesome guitar 🎸
Those have a nice tone
How do you like the fusion orchestra? My next guitar is going to be a fusion nylon but I can’t decide on which.
Chet Adkins was the first dude to play ‘em. He had the builds commissioned cause he was old and they were comfortable to play live for his tv show. Dude had a sense of humor
atkins
I find this instrument to be far more interesting than the Polyphia one tbh. This one has depth and control over your tone while Tim's new one seems to always sound like it's being played through cardboard regardless of the amp.
Yeah, the body blend is what really makes this guitar not sound like a duck. Also, I like the look of it a lot more.
Yeah Tim's honestly sounds awful :/
Its funny you put exactly the same comment on the tim henson one review 😂 and that comment brought me to this video
Yeah I think its a juicier sound than the alternatives
Polyphia is AWFUL
Nice review...
Rondo Music have produced this form of guitar for years for cheap. Their brand is Hadean and had a flamed top. I have a natural top Babilon which is OK for a $150 guitar and I use distortion with it too. But would love to have this one.
Finally, a demo with the unplugged sound. Thank you for a comprehensive review.
I dismissed the TH Ibanez because of the lack of body mics.
PS: I received my Cordoba from Sweetwater yesterday. I love it. Had you not edited in the acoustic sound, I may have gotten the Henson signature, which sounds "plinky" to me.
Your review is spot on.
Subbed.
Kiesel/Carvin has for years. The NS1 is nylon with a standard Jack for amp and a 13 pin Jack you can run midi through a guitar synth.
You sound terrific.
Thanks!
I must have one!
Antonio Hermosa AH-50. No longer available. Used it as a bass with Savarez Low Octave strings. It had 45 seconds sustain on the low end.
Wow, never seen one of those. It looks like the construction is pretty similar to the Cordoba. Good sound?
This guitar sounds a lot like the one Chet Atkins used when recording the song Vincent. This was very fun to watch. Looking forward to owning this guitar in the near future.
The Fishman sounding great is no surprise. My electric-acoustics all sound amazing through my Loudbox Mini Charge.
Wow! You played Arirang? That is Korean traditional song! Thank you for playing, and I feel proud that I am Korean.
Yes! I have a set of variations on it that I composed years ago. My wife is half Korean, if you're wondering why a white dude is playing traditional Korean music.
I believe the neck joint is at the 14 fret which is great (instead of the 12 fret of a classical guitar)
Yes it is. It actually still throws me a little because I'm so used to the joint being at the 12th fret.
I was on the fence about this guitar. After watching your video...I just got back from Guitar Center with a blue one! Thank you.
Nice! I hope it serves you well!
Ibanez just brought out another. But I like the look and sound of this Cordoba. I found this video very useful!
Cordoba is great... a classical guitar bastion. I own 3. Stage, GK Studio, Fusion Orchestra....
Conratz! Lovely guitar, the Fishman and 'body sensor' pair seem like a great pair. Will check one out - I think some stock arrived here in HK recently. I have played a Sadowsky Electric Nylon since 1992 - another name to add to the Godin / Ibanez list of options. Cheers.
How do you rate the Sadowsky? Looks like a really nice instrument from what I can tell
@@Jefferson-ly5qe It has been my 'go to' for a lot of recordings since I bought it in 1992. That said, I don't use it for a pure 'Classical Guitar' thing, I have a lovely Yairi acoustic for that. For live work it's perfect for bossa style, jazz backing etc but I mainly use it for soloing - with a touch of plate reverb and maybe light delay it is unique - it sings. I guess just try to track down any TH-cam stuff with it - I'm sure there's some out there . . . cheers. Also, the neck is very comfortable for electric players, it's not a classic wide flat neck.
@@mortonwilson795 100% can see the use of that kind of instrument. I also own a nice classical but this would just fill a different niche. All the other solid nylon string guitars I've seen have that piezo quacky sound but the Sadowsky seems different. Honestly tempted to build a sadowsky clone
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you!
So after a bit of searching it came to my surprise that there've been a lot of these around, all not very expensive too! Cort makes one, so does Harley Benton, then there's this one called Angel Lopez which I'm getting. Then you have the more expensive Yamaha and Godin obviously. You also have a few much harder to find ones like LTD makes one and Epiphone apparantly did? And then there's the old Gibson Chet Atkins.
😮 It's the perfect guitar for me, I need to buy it
Do it!
Chet Atkins played a Kirk Sand electric nylon as I recall -
they are very expensive, sound nice
I just ordered the Tim Henson Sig yesterday, Been looking for an Acoustic-Electric lately. I first learned on a classical nylon guitar, plus with the hype I was sold immediately. Then I found this one today & now im considering cancelling and getting this one instead lol. I love the warmth & fullness of this one. I worry Tim's may not quite stand up to it in that sense. Everything Tim & Scott have played on them sounds amazing, but then again it's Tim & Scott. Playing God & Tim's TH-cam videos with it aren't really focused on the "Proper" classical music/tone. I feel like its more sharp than it is warm. That might be enough to turn me off of it. It would be nice to get a proper review with more classical playing first, but then I worry not being able to get it at the street price after the pre-order ends before regular people start posting reviews.
Yeah the intricate hybrid picking technique those guys use really brings out the piezo quackiness. I'm sure they'll sound just fine with traditional classical technique. The body blend on the Cordoba is what really sold me. It doesn't sound like a real classical, but it doesn't lack for a full, rich, balanced tone. I'd say if you're thinking about canceling and switching, at least see if you can try one in a store first to see if you like it.
I relate so much to this, well said
I pre-ordered the Tim Henson a week ago myself. I almost bought this Cordoba a few months back, but I waited for the TH mainly because I think the TH looks cool with the black and fret inlay.
Gibson, Yamaha, Ibanez, Cort, ESP, Stagg, Lopez, Ortega, even Harley Benton have all produced solid body nylon guitars.
Great review! How loud is it when unplugged? It's hard to judge from the "future" demo? Is it as loud as a regular classical guitar?
See 6:42
Not even close to as loud as a regular classical. But pretty loud considering, and pleasing enough for unplugged practicing.
Edit: Oh, I see what you meant by "future" demo. Well, I didn't adjust my mic gain or positioning going from speaking to playing, if that gives you an idea.
Nice review bro you definelty earned a sub you are massively underrated ! Can i ask what classical song (the first one) you were playing? Id like to look it up and learn it.. cheers !
Thanks! That's Arirang, a traditional Korean folk song. That was from my own arrangement and variation set based on it. I don't have it published yet. It will be available alongside my first album when I release it.
Not a finger stylist and do not play nylon guitar .......however...... I can find myself playing a guitar like this . Think Cordorba has another winner with this one. Thanks for the review ! 👍👍👍
I found it as good as the Godin but less expensive I just ordered it and can't wait for it to arrive and jam