@@Hunterofalltrades lmfao I tried that and the server just never worked. No clue why but I just got some random error code that doesn’t exist anywhere on google I guess
broken router firmware is fun :) many have features that were never tested. like one i had that would not let you set dns manually if you did it would just put 0.0.0.0 lol
Ummm... ya... this makes no sense unless the item you have doesn't have any Wifi capability, then you plug it into the 2ndary router... otherwise, you should just use wifi.
Because that transition into corsair's ad was so buttery smooth, I watched the entire video. So smooth, I even questioned why Linus should even bother doing them anymore.
A secondary router is also great for bypassing parental controls. Just make sure the secondary router assigns ip-adresses higher than the primary one and that the two routers are connected via LAN instead. There's probably more to this but this worked for me.
Good vid! One thing I’ recommended is setting up a DHCP pool of 150 IPs on the primary router (ie 192.168.1.1- 192.168.1.150) then using the IP’s that are not in the pool for static IP assignments. (Make the 2nd router 192.168.1.151) then it will never conflict with the DHCP pool.
Damn, even though I know this feature i'm just impressed at how well you added all the important points on such as disabling DHCP on the secondary router and keep the video so short!
2:00 x.x.x.255 is not possible as it is your broadcast adress in the subnet and cannot be used as an ip-adress in a /24 subnet (same with x.x.x.0 and the ip your main router uses)
Btw, using a mask 255.255.255.0 which is the default for home networks, an address terminating with .255 is the broadcast address and not a valid device IP address!
I love how I had to figure everything in this video the hard way a while back when I set up my home network, but if I hadn't I wouldn't understand a thing now
I live in a large victorian home with walls that don't like wifi. So I have a network of routers connected together. I've been doing it for a few years now and never had a problem. Good to see others have figured this out.
Yes and no, 2.4 is already slow, plus the penalty to retransmit, plus the loss over distance, you'd be lucky to get 25-30Mbps at the far end. Would it work? Probably. Would you want to use it for anything other than your siblings devices when you are mad at them? No.
@@caniscerulean So you mean that I'm better off use only 5 Ghz band for both link and devices? I think not sir, 2,4 has better range than 5 Ghz and don't fall that much behind in speed. And to have a dedicated channal for the link is cuting a lot of traffic freezing up the 5 Ghz channel to handled the wireless devices. BUT, if you only use wired devices with your brigde then ofcourse the 5 Ghz channel should handle the link.
Nah, you always want the faster link for the back haul. Otherwise, all your devices will be connecting using the faster 5Ghz and then bottlenecking on the slower link. This is true of all networks, whether they be Wi-Fi, wired, road, rail etc...
@@leopold7562 that is true, the backhaul should be the faster one, good point. But what I ment to point out with my original post was the fact that you could split the duties between the 2 channels for improved results. Because that is something that isn't mentioned in the video.
Eh...set DHCP to give out 192.168.1.100 to 200. Use any of the rest for static IPs. Kinda crazy though if you have a big family you could run out with my strategy.
To be honest was nice to see this video back in 2010 . Because i did the same but using the wire method not the WiFi method. Was amazing in my hole backyard having strong wifi signal, this video man so nostalgic to see it . Keep the good work up 👍
Some regions configs "allow" more wifi channels in the router 'cause in some countries legislations don't allow wireless networks on some ranges. It's not rare to see from 1 to 11 and if you select another it shows 1 to 15 for e.g. That can help to put your network on a channel that there is less neighbors: less noise :P
"Setting the last number between 1 and 255". Actually you'll want to set it between 2 and 254. 255 is the broadcast IP for sending data to all devices on the network. You also don't typically want to set it to 1, because well, 1 is usually the gateway.
"We've run out of ideas for Techquickie. What do we do?" "Let's make a video about a technology that's been around since the turn of the century and still sucks." "Give this man a medal!"
IKR? I ended up running a 20-meter ethernet cable from the house to the shed in order to connect the two routers. The wireless version was painfully unreliable.
I have done this for multiple different reasons and it has worked reasonably well. For a while I needed a temporary wireless connection until I could get some cables long enough to run through the ceiling to provide data to a desk I had just moved. At this very moment, I am using it with a wireless baby camera that the wireless has died on, so I don’t have to run a line for it just to use it. TL;DR: great for temporary fixes, and makes wired devices wireless.
Even if there´s no WDS option you can still use it for extanded range, if you connect it via cable and setup a second wlan it works like a charm as well, using that way for 3 years now.
I'm definitely a fan of 192.168.0.1 myself, but my current network was set up for 10.0.0.1 from my last router, and I was too lazy to switch all the static IP's haha.
I guess I did a good when I at least hid it away behind furniture, then pushed into a crevice along the stairs and then up and over a doorframe to keep it out of sight and off the floor, then the rest of it just coiled behind my pc lol
.255 is not a valid address where a /24 subnet mask is in use as is the case for most home networks and consumer routers. Also .1 is most likely going to be the main router's address.
@@novicedroner2629 between x and y is ambigous between an inclusive range and an exclusive one, if you instead say “pick a number from 1 to 10” that’s unambiguous
Depending on your router, and its firmware, you can set the wan port to be another lan port. also it is possible on some routers to set antennae to be rx or tx only, so that you only lose a small amount of speed as it will dedicate transmission and receiving to those specific antennae. It doesn't eliminate the speed loss, but it can mitigate it to some extent. I used an old linksys router reflashed with dd-wrt as a wireless repeater for a while to grab the free wifi in my city, and connect wired devices to it. Setup with a script that auto reconnected and spoofed the routers mac address every so often to dodge usage limits. Worked surprisingly well.
It's also important to make sure the IP address of the secondary router is not in the range of the DHCP range on the primary router. Weird problems can happen otherwise.
I got a Pulseway add with Riley and this Tq is also hosted by Riley. The add started with the "now it's time for the quick bits". I thought for a moment I was in the middle of a TechLinked video. Bonkers.
I did something similar with an old linksys router, except instead of doing a wireless mesh, I disabled the wireless altogether and used an ethernet powerline adapter and used it as a switch for my server, TV, and desktop.
I used the 12v transformer from an old router to power quiet fans I put on a loud AF 3D printer (24v). I harvested the Sunon Maglev 4020 etc fans from Sky PVRs and used the 320Gb HDDs for storage.
I did something like this a bit over a year ago... except that the routers are connected to each other over 5GHz wifi, and the network I actually use is 2.4GHz, so it doesn't actually slow down anything (both of them support 5GHz and 2.4GHz, but most of my devices don't support 5GHz). It obviously wasn't called WDS, I had to figure it out myself. And good to know that my "hack" with setting the same ssid, password and encryption to both of them wasn't just my dumb idea that was never supposed to work.
The easy way to do this is to use a wireless gaming adapter for X box or similar wired console. It is designed from the start to be a wireless client with only one client port. This port can be connected to a switch if you need to expand the number of devices on the gaming adapter.
@@pablomonsalve3911 It makes no percievable difference with modern USB mice. But I agree there are not many videos on this topic, I found one here: th-cam.com/video/TAA1n_9cXrA/w-d-xo.html
The video could do with a heads-up about security issues like sticky devices (e.g. a tablet, laptop) you have trouble removing, and ROP-Attacks on older routers. Some of these things can be resolved, but do be aware of it firstly. If you're going to do this, sometimes it is better used where you've made a smoothwall or slackware server (from a PC) as the first "router".
I just use my old router to extend WiFi range but instead of WDS, I opted to use Powerline adapter. This ensure I get full WiFi speed on the secondary router as well.
My family had two access points in our old house. When Comcast upgraded us to fiber they left out old connection active. It was bizarre because our new one was inside the basement, the wire than ran up two stories via Ethernet, across the attic into my room on the second floor where the upstairs wifi router was. Later we pulled it across the ceiling and onto the office.
Or give the old router to your neighbour and as soon they have it plugged in so will you have the password to connect on their wifi and get free internet. 😏
Just ask for their password then go home and set up a router or signal repeater with the same name and password. They will benefit from the increased range, you benefit from free internet. I've seen people do this with free wi-fi from stores they are in range of.
I once organised 3 people who lived in a block to share there connection with extenders (made from routers) and as far as I know they still do it now 3 years later but its like 12 flats now and they run cables out of the windows to clear floors 🤣😂👍👌😉
It worked man....! I had an old router from cave mans that had an ADSL wan port. Got it buried under piles of junk in the store room. Got it and set it up. Got an wifi repeater for free. Thank you LTT. Loving it❤
Thanks for reminding me of my old Samsung Galaxy S3. That thing would hang on to WiFi signals even when it was only receiving a few bits per second from one AP and there was a 2nd AP right next to the phone. I was so happy when I got an OP3 and it was switching automatically just like I wanted it to.
This is as good as throughput between routers and every hop cut the already halved speed to half. You will get more pleasant experience through cable with different channels, optimized overlaping.
please take note that WDS only works reliably that uses the same chipset or at least the same generation and brand of the chip for it to work reliably. the replacement with WDS is Mesh, this one doesnt rely on using the same chipset, you only need for the chipset to support Mesh mode, if you run a openwrt querying the command "iw list" can display the supported modes.
Well this helps a bunch. I was about to go buy a new router but still have an old junked one laying around that i might play around with to see if it helps put wifi in the black-hole that is my kitchen...
Almost everyone on the planet: "Make sure to use 192.168.0.* or 192.168.1.*" My router: "192.168.178.*" I love it though, it's got a lot of very interesting features
back in ~2013 we had one that was 192.168.2.* and I've rarely ever seen any mention of them since, as in my experience at least, *most* routers follow that, but not all.
This video it makes it look so easy until you realize by configuring your routers that you've summoned some diabolic IPs that weren't suposed to assign to your PC and now your router portal fade into oblivion.
I've been using open source Linux based firmware to allow me to use old routers as wireless bridges for years. Often there will be a setting in this firmware to switch the WAN port to a LAN port and allow you to use it as well, but you do have to check that box if you want to take advantage of that feature. I currently favor openwrt if available for the hardware, though I have one wireless bridge running dd-wrt. I actually run openwrt on my main router as well.
I used this technique to connect my security camera DVR to the internet using a second router, because the DVR in the room is too far away from the primary router in the middle of the house.
Used an old ISP router as a switch in one of the kids rooms - I turned off wireless on it, but forgot to turn off DHCP and it was on a .0.1 range while main router was .1.1 - took me 2 years to realise why I had loads of annoying issues connecting to network, assumed it was issue with crappy configs on DD-WRT.
Most routers I have used do not have WDS options... but DD-WRT firmware does if your router is supported... and BTW both routers must have the same chipset, you cannot mix Atheros with Broadcom for example... bandwidth is cut in half with a repeater but WDS is not a repeater...
Nah, ethernet cables without cables are just an even number of rj45 connectors. Unless you got one of them weird split cables, then you have an odd number of connectors.
Last year, during a rather hot week here in England, I basically did this with my Raspberry Pi 4. We were all outside, social distancing of course, but music was needed, so I set up my Pi as a WiFi extender and connected good old Alexa to it. Power was the only problem, it was irritating getting power several meters away from the house, but I succeeded. It was quite a fun project, I just wish I backed up the SD card, I can't really remember how I did it. Remember to save your projects!
Asus are the best I bought the same one in January new from Amazon, but they sent a used faulty one, I sent it back after a week and its been out of stock ever since so had to buy a TP link AX6000 instead.
A few correction about the 192.168 private IP range. 3rd octet can be in the range of 0 to 255. While the 4th can be in the range of 1 to 254. As 0 and 255 are reserved for the network address and broadcast address respectively. So you cannot use those 2.
I'm not an expert but doesn't it sound like a bad idea to set them both to the same channel? Can anyone who's rather knowledgeable give an opinion on this?
Pretty much spot on, they'll alternate receiving/broadcasting so not not mess with each other's signal, effectively cutting up- and download speeds in half. Alternatively they might not pay the good neighbor policy and you'll get heavy interference, reducing bandwidth even more. All in all this video needs a bit more work, not the usual beacon of technical salvation we've come to expect from this channel.
the problem came when you want to use UDP (video streaming, RTC, etc) since WiFi is half duplex... So when you send a packet to the bridge, it will create a new to the router and back, but when the bridge trasmit to router or receive from client device, the other communication cannot be exist. If possible, connect your router and bridge with LAN port, which is full duplex, and not affected by the neighbour's WiFis...
why not both? :D ran a 50m ethernet line to shed, have an old router w/ dhcp disabled out there for the PCs setup in there.. and bridged wifi for extending that shite for the times when i have my phone or nintendo switch out here too. gigabit through to house for wired connections, full speed wifi for the wireless stuff. having strong wifi thats near 100% all throughout the household and still near 100% way out in the back yard is awesome too
Another reason to use a 2nd (or more) old router - they can take the load off the main router for all your IoT devices - I have nearly 50 wireless devices connected to two old routers and my main router zips along with 350/36Mbps down/up speeds quite happily all day long. Connecting lots of pinging devices to the main router can kill its ability to work efficiently (learnt the hard way). Also, wire network devices that you care about if you can, you can't beat a wired connection [yet].
"Never plug it in to the WAN port"
If you do Linus and Luke will never stop interrupting you
Very very true
But maybe than they'll start the show on time
Me:WELL. IT JUST GAVE ME NO WIFI😑😑
@@Roeclean But were you able to watch the WAN show?
unless you've got custom firmware that lets you bridge them all together
I can’t be the only person who tries these 20 minute type projects sometimes and always runs into crazy issues that nobody else has ever seen
Me trying to port forward for my Minecraft server :(
@@Hunterofalltrades lmfao I tried that and the server just never worked. No clue why but I just got some random error code that doesn’t exist anywhere on google I guess
broken router firmware is fun :) many have features that were never tested.
like one i had that would not let you set dns manually if you did it would just put 0.0.0.0 lol
@@ratbag359 if only it were 1.1.1.1, which actually is a DNS server, but sadly it wasn't to be lol
I always have the exact wrong hardware revisions for any of the 'good stuff' to work. Always.
"it's like running an ethernet cable, but wirelessly" my man just explained wifi
Does connecting a router to a main by wire better than this solution?
@@夏愛-j7z yes
@@夏愛-j7z wired is always better, just not always convenient.
@blah blah but it cuts the bandwidth by half for each hop
Ummm... ya... this makes no sense unless the item you have doesn't have any Wifi capability, then you plug it into the 2ndary router... otherwise, you should just use wifi.
I never throw away my old router, I Craigslist that thing.
Lol
subsrcibe to pewidpeie
@@memesauce7703 9 year old
@@ilovecatsandalsorabbits yes
Just get a new router from the same manufacturer, and see if you can enable Mesh networking.
Works much better for larger homes
Let's appreciate that they keep their videos short and straightforward, doing what their name says.
They know their audience which are the Zoomers...
@@takehirolol5962 Lol
@Owol Yeah
Shortcircuit: am I a joke to you?
I thought that I made a comment on this as we have the exact same profile pic
Because that transition into corsair's ad was so buttery smooth, I watched the entire video. So smooth, I even questioned why Linus should even bother doing them anymore.
0:40 "Kind of like running an ethernet cable, but wirelessly." Damn, did Ryley just invent Wifi?
yes
indeed
@@HearMeLearn
Hey SINUS 😂
And you can add Wired Equivalent Privacy
@@HearMeLearn Brings a new meaning to "sinus headache"
A secondary router is also great for bypassing parental controls. Just make sure the secondary router assigns ip-adresses higher than the primary one and that the two routers are connected via LAN instead. There's probably more to this but this worked for me.
i actually got an ad with riley for pulseway, saying its time for quickbits. Love it
Me too
Yeah same here
me too
it's*
I got an add for weetbix...
Good vid! One thing I’ recommended is setting up a DHCP pool of 150 IPs on the primary router (ie 192.168.1.1- 192.168.1.150) then using the IP’s that are not in the pool for static IP assignments. (Make the 2nd router 192.168.1.151) then it will never conflict with the DHCP pool.
I Just changed my router a hour ago, your video just saved his life.
What router you get I’m in the market ?
Rember speed is cut in half
don't use wds theres probably a better repeater option in the settings of your router. wds is pretty old and unsafe
@@aiko_incr Still beats dropping the connection when ur ever so slightly too far...I knew my old router might come in handy! :p
Were you really going to just throw away a perfectly working piece of tech?
Damn, even though I know this feature i'm just impressed at how well you added all the important points on such as disabling DHCP on the secondary router and keep the video so short!
2:00 x.x.x.255 is not possible as it is your broadcast adress in the subnet and cannot be used as an ip-adress in a /24 subnet (same with x.x.x.0 and the ip your main router uses)
Thank you! They had a lot of ciritcal info right, shame that they made this „small“ mistake
Technically he said between 0 and 255, you are right though.
.1 is probably the address of the main router too, that's why he said BETWEEN, so, 2-254
I agree, hi I'm a computer networking student
@@luisgeraldes32 gateway ip's will most always be x.x.x.1
"Don't throw away your old router"
*Cries in 802.11g
I'm throwing away my old AND new router right now. How about that?
You still have a komputer don't you?
Smart, just get a mesh network system. 🙃
Even better: sell them instead. :P
yeah, gotta get that starlink satellite instead lol. its now available in my area owo
Rage quit?
Btw, using a mask 255.255.255.0 which is the default for home networks, an address terminating with .255 is the broadcast address and not a valid device IP address!
Riley: "Wow, you watched the whole video"
Well actually I listened to the whole Riley ...... ASMR ya know
You are missing out on the epicness that is called Riley tho
I love how I had to figure everything in this video the hard way a while back when I set up my home network, but if I hadn't I wouldn't understand a thing now
2:12 damn didn't know Riley was from Pakistan
damn wtf pakistan
Raja Riley Khan Tanoli
Land of terrorism
@@jinxblaze true haha
They probably did that to increase bandwidth allocation
I live in a large victorian home with walls that don't like wifi. So I have a network of routers connected together. I've been doing it for a few years now and never had a problem. Good to see others have figured this out.
If your routers have both 2,4 and 5 Ghz channels you can use say the 2,4 one as the bridge and connect devices to the 5 one to improve speed.
Yes and no, 2.4 is already slow, plus the penalty to retransmit, plus the loss over distance, you'd be lucky to get 25-30Mbps at the far end. Would it work? Probably. Would you want to use it for anything other than your siblings devices when you are mad at them? No.
@@caniscerulean So you mean that I'm better off use only 5 Ghz band for both link and devices? I think not sir, 2,4 has better range than 5 Ghz and don't fall that much behind in speed. And to have a dedicated channal for the link is cuting a lot of traffic freezing up the 5 Ghz channel to handled the wireless devices. BUT, if you only use wired devices with your brigde then ofcourse the 5 Ghz channel should handle the link.
Nah, you always want the faster link for the back haul. Otherwise, all your devices will be connecting using the faster 5Ghz and then bottlenecking on the slower link. This is true of all networks, whether they be Wi-Fi, wired, road, rail etc...
@@leopold7562 that is true, the backhaul should be the faster one, good point. But what I ment to point out with my original post was the fact that you could split the duties between the 2 channels for improved results. Because that is something that isn't mentioned in the video.
@@viktor4174 Ah, I get you now. Yeah, that would be better, then you're not sharing the backhaul with other devices.
best sponsor ever, been using the hs70 pro for a year now and its just so freaking amazing and versatile! would highly recommend it!!!
Within 2 and 254 is more accurate. .1 is invariably used by the main router and .255 is a special address used for broadcast.
He did say between
Use 42. 254 is also often assigned to routers
Eh...set DHCP to give out 192.168.1.100 to 200. Use any of the rest for static IPs. Kinda crazy though if you have a big family you could run out with my strategy.
i was using the wrong channel settings 3 years ago when i was trying to do this. Thank you for reviving this project for me!
I've decorated with the cables draped from the celling aesthetic.
Mmm that's the best one.
To be honest was nice to see this video back in 2010 . Because i did the same but using the wire method not the WiFi method. Was amazing in my hole backyard having strong wifi signal, this video man so nostalgic to see it . Keep the good work up 👍
2:12 "Region: Pakistan" ?!?
Nice catch man 😂
Some regions configs "allow" more wifi channels in the router 'cause in some countries legislations don't allow wireless networks on some ranges. It's not rare to see from 1 to 11 and if you select another it shows 1 to 15 for e.g.
That can help to put your network on a channel that there is less neighbors: less noise :P
@@P4NCH1 true but it's illegal per FCC regulations.
@@lands1459 Indeed. But we all know that "can" and "should" are not the same thing..
@@P4NCH1 idk what you mean but kek
Being straight to the point, it is, no doubt, the best WDS configuration guide on TH-cam.
"Setting the last number between 1 and 255". Actually you'll want to set it between 2 and 254. 255 is the broadcast IP for sending data to all devices on the network. You also don't typically want to set it to 1, because well, 1 is usually the gateway.
"We've run out of ideas for Techquickie. What do we do?"
"Let's make a video about a technology that's been around since the turn of the century and still sucks."
"Give this man a medal!"
IKR? I ended up running a 20-meter ethernet cable from the house to the shed in order to connect the two routers. The wireless version was painfully unreliable.
I have done this for multiple different reasons and it has worked reasonably well. For a while I needed a temporary wireless connection until I could get some cables long enough to run through the ceiling to provide data to a desk I had just moved. At this very moment, I am using it with a wireless baby camera that the wireless has died on, so I don’t have to run a line for it just to use it.
TL;DR: great for temporary fixes, and makes wired devices wireless.
LTT: "Don't thrown away you old router".
Me who had stored his first 28Kbps dial up modem 😏
I still own my 300 baud modem for my C64.
@@Null-- ooh, the big fat rubber cups? Acoustic coupler from hell?
@@Dranok1 This actually has a wired phone plug - though at the time I thought the acoustic ones looked so amazing. Also Wargames.
Even if there´s no WDS option you can still use it for extanded range, if you connect it via cable and setup a second wlan it works like a charm as well, using that way for 3 years now.
Plugging directly into the WAN port increases the resolution of Linus by 3840%
I did not know you could do this - this is jolly useful - thank you Riley 👍🏽
"192.168.0.1"
10.0.0.1 Gang rise up.
And also 172.16.0.1 - Why nobody wants me?
I’m here
Xfinity: 10.0.0.1
@@DB-47 lol no one seems to use it
192.168.x.x king
and 10.x.x.x runner up
172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x never seen used
I'm definitely a fan of 192.168.0.1 myself, but my current network was set up for 10.0.0.1 from my last router, and I was too lazy to switch all the static IP's haha.
I actually have run a 100ft ethernet cable all over my house. I get so much more consistent speeds than wifi. Luckily I haven't tripped over it yet.
I guess I did a good when I at least hid it away behind furniture, then pushed into a crevice along the stairs and then up and over a doorframe to keep it out of sight and off the floor, then the rest of it just coiled behind my pc lol
I use my old Asus router as an access point connected to my new router by ethernet. The speeds are much better this way.
Me too
Sht. I really knew my tech in the late 90s and early 2Ks. I got old, but the reminders here are priceless. Thanks!
Back in the good ol'days we use to hand write then bit bang dd-wrt on to our routers!
I recently did that at my parent's house, but thanks for educating more people on how to reuse old hardware! :D
.255 is not a valid address where a /24 subnet mask is in use as is the case for most home networks and consumer routers. Also .1 is most likely going to be the main router's address.
he said *between* those values
@@sodiboo but the first one is possible while .255 isn't
@@sodiboo When someone says pick a number between 1 and 10 do they never pick 1 or 10?
@@novicedroner2629 Do you "throw a dice and get a number between 0 and 7"?
@@novicedroner2629 between x and y is ambigous between an inclusive range and an exclusive one, if you instead say “pick a number from 1 to 10” that’s unambiguous
Depending on your router, and its firmware, you can set the wan port to be another lan port. also it is possible on some routers to set antennae to be rx or tx only, so that you only lose a small amount of speed as it will dedicate transmission and receiving to those specific antennae. It doesn't eliminate the speed loss, but it can mitigate it to some extent. I used an old linksys router reflashed with dd-wrt as a wireless repeater for a while to grab the free wifi in my city, and connect wired devices to it. Setup with a script that auto reconnected and spoofed the routers mac address every so often to dodge usage limits. Worked surprisingly well.
The wan port is my private line to The Wan Show 😂🏆
So helpful and useful, not just for wifi in the home but for a networking module I’m doing at univer
It's also important to make sure the IP address of the secondary router is not in the range of the DHCP range on the primary router. Weird problems can happen otherwise.
I got a Pulseway add with Riley and this Tq is also hosted by Riley. The add started with the "now it's time for the quick bits". I thought for a moment I was in the middle of a TechLinked video. Bonkers.
but it makes for the perfect firsbee!
so that would make it wi-fly?
I did something similar with an old linksys router, except instead of doing a wireless mesh, I disabled the wireless altogether and used an ethernet powerline adapter and used it as a switch for my server, TV, and desktop.
That smooth segway though
I used the 12v transformer from an old router to power quiet fans I put on a loud AF 3D printer (24v). I harvested the Sunon Maglev 4020 etc fans from Sky PVRs and used the 320Gb HDDs for storage.
lol I'm listening to this on the HS70 pros that's having connection issues after only 2 years of owning them
I did something like this a bit over a year ago... except that the routers are connected to each other over 5GHz wifi, and the network I actually use is 2.4GHz, so it doesn't actually slow down anything (both of them support 5GHz and 2.4GHz, but most of my devices don't support 5GHz). It obviously wasn't called WDS, I had to figure it out myself. And good to know that my "hack" with setting the same ssid, password and encryption to both of them wasn't just my dumb idea that was never supposed to work.
dont worry ill just throw away my new router
I'll*
@@CreeperPookie I’ll
@@stxnw I’LL
I'lL
Thanks for the help!
The easy way to do this is to use a wireless gaming adapter for X box or similar wired console. It is designed from the start to be a wireless client with only one client port. This port can be connected to a switch if you need to expand the number of devices on the gaming adapter.
Video suggestion: Comparing the latency of an 8000 Mhz Polling Rate Gaming Mouse with a PS2/ mouse
Yes, theres a lack of videos discussing this properly
th-cam.com/video/mwf_F2VboFQ/w-d-xo.html
@@eniff2925 This video is great, but all the mice he tries are USB based. I want to see the results of PS/2 mouse
@@pablomonsalve3911 It makes no percievable difference with modern USB mice. But I agree there are not many videos on this topic, I found one here:
th-cam.com/video/TAA1n_9cXrA/w-d-xo.html
The video could do with a heads-up about security issues like sticky devices (e.g. a tablet, laptop) you have trouble removing, and ROP-Attacks on older routers. Some of these things can be resolved, but do be aware of it firstly. If you're going to do this, sometimes it is better used where you've made a smoothwall or slackware server (from a PC) as the first "router".
Working in IT for so long WDS for me, means Windows Deployment Services.
I just use my old router to extend WiFi range but instead of WDS, I opted to use Powerline adapter. This ensure I get full WiFi speed on the secondary router as well.
I see Riley, I click.
My family had two access points in our old house. When Comcast upgraded us to fiber they left out old connection active. It was bizarre because our new one was inside the basement, the wire than ran up two stories via Ethernet, across the attic into my room on the second floor where the upstairs wifi router was. Later we pulled it across the ceiling and onto the office.
"don't throw away your old router"
Shows a nicer router then I've yet to even see in person...
XD
🎩👌
i love the FLASH BACKS in there because there is nothing worse than 2 devices on the same network giving each other new IP addresses
Or give the old router to your neighbour and as soon they have it plugged in so will you have the password to connect on their wifi and get free internet. 😏
They will reset it and change it's password 😂
Just ask for their password then go home and set up a router or signal repeater with the same name and password.
They will benefit from the increased range, you benefit from free internet.
I've seen people do this with free wi-fi from stores they are in range of.
@@MohsinExperiments Note down their WPS pin. No one changes that shit ever.
I once organised 3 people who lived in a block to share there connection with extenders (made from routers) and as far as I know they still do it now 3 years later but its like 12 flats now and they run cables out of the windows to clear floors 🤣😂👍👌😉
@@EZ-D-FIANT wow nice one
It worked man....! I had an old router from cave mans that had an ADSL wan port. Got it buried under piles of junk in the store room. Got it and set it up. Got an wifi repeater for free. Thank you LTT. Loving it❤
Thanks for reminding me of my old Samsung Galaxy S3. That thing would hang on to WiFi signals even when it was only receiving a few bits per second from one AP and there was a 2nd AP right next to the phone.
I was so happy when I got an OP3 and it was switching automatically just like I wanted it to.
This is as good as throughput between routers and every hop cut the already halved speed to half. You will get more pleasant experience through cable with different channels, optimized overlaping.
Am i the only one that noticed Pakistan at 2:12 😂
please take note that WDS only works reliably that uses the same chipset or at least the same generation and brand of the chip for it to work reliably.
the replacement with WDS is Mesh, this one doesnt rely on using the same chipset, you only need for the chipset to support Mesh mode, if you run a openwrt querying the command "iw list" can display the supported modes.
This is so weird, I literally was searching of this yesterday because I want to extend my WiFi range and you guys uploaded this video now....
they heard u
@@priestofhiro fr
Well this helps a bunch. I was about to go buy a new router but still have an old junked one laying around that i might play around with to see if it helps put wifi in the black-hole that is my kitchen...
"wow you watched the whole video"
omg the *WHOLE* 4:40 minutes, yay me O_o
Almost everyone on the planet: "Make sure to use 192.168.0.* or 192.168.1.*"
My router: "192.168.178.*"
I love it though, it's got a lot of very interesting features
Also mine router: 172.30.0.0/23 (gateway 172.30.0.1)
back in ~2013 we had one that was 192.168.2.* and I've rarely ever seen any mention of them since, as in my experience at least, *most* routers follow that, but not all.
I am happy with my 100 metre ethernet cable running through my house.
This video it makes it look so easy until you realize by configuring your routers that you've summoned some diabolic IPs that weren't suposed to assign to your PC and now your router portal fade into oblivion.
I'm remembering all those weird stuff that happened when I set up a wifi vendo machine.
I've been using open source Linux based firmware to allow me to use old routers as wireless bridges for years. Often there will be a setting in this firmware to switch the WAN port to a LAN port and allow you to use it as well, but you do have to check that box if you want to take advantage of that feature.
I currently favor openwrt if available for the hardware, though I have one wireless bridge running dd-wrt. I actually run openwrt on my main router as well.
Perfect! Riley's mom always complains about the bad wifi on here side of the truck stop.
I used this technique to connect my security camera DVR to the internet using a second router, because the DVR in the room is too far away from the primary router in the middle of the house.
I'm offended by the "snaking a 100 ft ethernet cable through your house" comment.
I did even worse. I used two 50 foot cables and patched them togethor.
Used an old ISP router as a switch in one of the kids rooms - I turned off wireless on it, but forgot to turn off DHCP and it was on a .0.1 range while main router was .1.1 - took me 2 years to realise why I had loads of annoying issues connecting to network, assumed it was issue with crappy configs on DD-WRT.
I also recommend installing OpenWRT.
That’s over the head of most people watching this video.
@@Bob_Smith19 Learning and bettering yourself to make your life easier is over most people's heads? Huh?!
Most routers I have used do not have WDS options... but DD-WRT firmware does if your router is supported... and BTW both routers must have the same chipset, you cannot mix Atheros with Broadcom for example... bandwidth is cut in half with a repeater but WDS is not a repeater...
0:40
It's an Ethernet cable just without cable..... Ummm wifi?
Nah, ethernet cables without cables are just an even number of rj45 connectors. Unless you got one of them weird split cables, then you have an odd number of connectors.
Last year, during a rather hot week here in England, I basically did this with my Raspberry Pi 4. We were all outside, social distancing of course, but music was needed, so I set up my Pi as a WiFi extender and connected good old Alexa to it. Power was the only problem, it was irritating getting power several meters away from the house, but I succeeded.
It was quite a fun project, I just wish I backed up the SD card, I can't really remember how I did it.
Remember to save your projects!
lol I just got exactly same asus router
Asus makes this easy and has mesh networking built in.
@@Bob_Smith19 true. it was incredible easy to instal and setup
Asus are the best I bought the same one in January new from Amazon, but they sent a used faulty one, I sent it back after a week and its been out of stock ever since so had to buy a TP link AX6000 instead.
A few correction about the 192.168 private IP range. 3rd octet can be in the range of 0 to 255. While the 4th can be in the range of 1 to 254. As 0 and 255 are reserved for the network address and broadcast address respectively. So you cannot use those 2.
Don't throw them away just upgrade the software and you can use it as a graphic card.😂😂
Good timing Riley, I was just trying to set up a second router as an access point.
I recently wired up my entire condo with cat 6. The network has never been more stable.
from what I can tell from your profile picture, your cat 6 seems healthy and well configured.
Thanks for the best network tip ever :-)
You can also use it if you have 5 cables and only 4 ports on the router. One port can go to your old router and then on to the wired devices.
2:42 that's what she said
wtf. I literally googled ethernet cable to buy today to get wifi access to the other side of the house. This shit just saved me so much time and money
I'm not an expert but doesn't it sound like a bad idea to set them both to the same channel? Can anyone who's rather knowledgeable give an opinion on this?
Pretty much spot on, they'll alternate receiving/broadcasting so not not mess with each other's signal, effectively cutting up- and download speeds in half.
Alternatively they might not pay the good neighbor policy and you'll get heavy interference, reducing bandwidth even more.
All in all this video needs a bit more work, not the usual beacon of technical salvation we've come to expect from this channel.
But the second router needs to receive the first one so it can re-transmit it onwards.
They need to be on the same channel so they can talk to each other
the problem came when you want to use UDP (video streaming, RTC, etc) since WiFi is half duplex... So when you send a packet to the bridge, it will create a new to the router and back, but when the bridge trasmit to router or receive from client device, the other communication cannot be exist. If possible, connect your router and bridge with LAN port, which is full duplex, and not affected by the neighbour's WiFis...
Pfft... 100 foot ethernet cable, more like wlan on a budget
Wan*
Wide area network*
why not both? :D
ran a 50m ethernet line to shed, have an old router w/ dhcp disabled out there for the PCs setup in there.. and bridged wifi for extending that shite for the times when i have my phone or nintendo switch out here too. gigabit through to house for wired connections, full speed wifi for the wireless stuff.
having strong wifi thats near 100% all throughout the household and still near 100% way out in the back yard is awesome too
idk why but its so natural to see him in his glasses that when he makes a video with no glasses it feels like its not him
"you can think of it like running an ethernet cable, but wirelessly"
Riley that's called regular wifi
Another reason to use a 2nd (or more) old router - they can take the load off the main router for all your IoT devices - I have nearly 50 wireless devices connected to two old routers and my main router zips along with 350/36Mbps down/up speeds quite happily all day long. Connecting lots of pinging devices to the main router can kill its ability to work efficiently (learnt the hard way).
Also, wire network devices that you care about if you can, you can't beat a wired connection [yet].
It's good if we don't wanna spend extra money but they can be slow if the router is too old
Damn you finally made an original comment
@@hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-Mikel.Montalat *serious comment
Ftfy
@@zikzein What does "ftfy" mean?
Before he gets lots of likes JUST BECAUSE he's verifyed
@@hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-Mikel.Montalat Fixed that for you.
ALL the deets none of the BS this is why I love you.