Instant Analysis | USC Fires Defensive Coordinator Alex Grinch
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- In this edition of Instant Analysis, USCFootball.com reporters Jack Smith and Shotgun Spratling discuss USC firing defensive coordinator Alex Grinch.
USC announced late Sunday morning that Grinch had been relieved of his duties as defensive coordinator by head coach Lincoln Riley following the Trojans' 52-42 loss to Washington in the Coliseum.
With Grinch out, defensive line coach Shaun Nua and inside linebackers coach Brian Odom will serve as interim co-defensive coordinators. Former defensive analyst and USC safety Taylor Mays will be elevated to an official on-field assistant coach, working with the safety position. Grinch, along with being USC's defensive coordinator, was also the coach previously responsible for working with the safeties.
Shotgun and Jack talk about why USC felt it needed to fire Grinch midseason and what the move means for the Trojans going forward. The two also hit on fan and current player reactions that have emerged online following Grinch's firing.
Jack, Shotgun, and Ryan Abraham will be live at 7 p.m. to break down the move and the Washington loss on Tunnel Vision later tonight.
Grinch shouldn't have accompanied Riley from Oklahoma in the first place. But unfortunately, he did, and he should've been gone at the end of last season at the latest, which means he wasted two seasons for the team. What a truly boneheaded decision Riley has made to retain him up to this point!!
Agreed. No questions there at all. Let’s just pray that usc can fork
Up the dough to actually get an actual real quality Defensive Coordinator. Tremendously disappointing season after all… can’t believe it with the decently high quality offense and the d can’t stop a single nosebleed. Tremendously disappointing. Praying for west coast football going forward . Yikes
They all have to take a look in the mirror. Including the five star that's always out of position.
You will see Riley isnt a great Coach!
Riley told ALL the coaches he was leaving for SC. He said if you want to go with me the plane leaves at 6am. This is how SC/LR did Oklahoma. Grinch had to go cause Venables would’ve fired him as soon as his plane landed in Oklahoma.
Facts
Get Jim Leonhard on the phone and have a blank check ready.
Is he better than Muschamp?
As an OU fan, I'm happy for you guys. Both our programs had to suffer with that defense...
I haven’t been this happy since we fired Helton. We can now truly FIGHT ON ✌🏼
quick! think of the next excuse for USC's shortcoming's.
Careful what you wish for as it can be the same or worse
@@yaboireagan5849 don’t have to Grinch left
@@Beck-Stein if I don’t have hope what do I have? I’m not a Browns fan. Things can get better lol
@@Beck-SteinIt actually can’t be worse… USC was 2nd to last among power 5 teams in points allowed per game with 34.50. And 4th to last in power 5 in yards per game allowed with 436 yards allowed per game. They were pretty much at the very bottom defensively and couldn’t drop much further. I suppose it could be just as bad though. A change in coordinator doesn’t necessarily mean improvement. Although, it’d be kind of hard not to given how historically bad the numbers were this season.
It's a little too late, but knowing grinch is gone I don't have to call anymore!! Watch and enjoy the game. Fight on!
Credit goes to AD JEN and PRES. FOLT. Hopefully, CW's Stats increases chances for Heisman next 3 games.
Hopefully, this will help recruiting and keep some of the defensive players from leaving through the portal.
Maybe but here's a thought: (1) Top HS Players in our region should be SITTING at SC Games on Saturdays (Paid for by Local Companies) to Promote our Brand. (2) Pete Carroll was Brilliant in taking a few minutes before games just to say hello to HS prospects who may be sitting in lower seats. There is NO VIOLATION to say HELLO to someone enjoying the game. (3) Stop focusing only on Mater Dei & St. John Bosco. Talent is Everywhere (i.e. Carlsbad HS has a 6'7 & 6'8 300lbs DL right now, SC missed Fred Warner to Utah from the same area, etc.). th-cam.com/video/ompevuR1644/w-d-xo.html&start_radio=1
USC is not fooling around. Grinch getting canned with 3 games (including bowl) remaining says it all.
JENNIFER COHEN/CAROL FOLT MADE THE DECISION. I doubt it was Riley - please don't give him the credit. He needs to go as well.
That’s heartbreaking that a player was apologizing. I hope they know this isn’t on them. Fight on and let’s see who we hire!!
Grinch is crying all the way to the bank. Oregon will embarrass fight on Troy. Williams will be crying on his mommy again. Next victim? Riley needs to go. 😢😢😢😂😂😂😂
It's on both the players and the coaches, to be perfectly honest. There have been so many missed tackles and blown assignments throughout these last 2 seasons as well, and apparently no consequence for the players. Instead, they are encouraged with NIL incentives and such despite poor performances. Players are coddled way too much these days. I remember when growing up in the '80s and '90s. you could see coaches, referees, basically everyone involved with college football keeping the players humble. Once they went pro (those who were good enough to go pro that is), then they could act like spoiled man-children all they wanted.
@@alakbar7870non of the things you listed are exclusive to SC so how come other top programs aren’t playing atrocious defense? SC is ranked 124 or 125th in the nation for points allowed. That’s embarrassing.
@@tmoney6475 Just HOW BAD is your reading comprehension?! "The things I listed...". What, you mean the fact that they miss tackles and assignments, but STILL get coddled by fans like @Incartem? I wasn't even talking about USC specifically, but rather the whole atmosphere of college football (and probably collegiate sports in general) nowadays. I'm talking about apples, while you want to talk about... IDK, dragons? 🤨🙄
And my point was exactly that. It's not that USC just had terrible coaching from the likes of Riley and Grinch, but the players themselves are not being held accountable for their poor performances! That's why we need old-school coaches, and need to get back to the old ways and keep players humble! Only then will the program improve.
@@alakbar7870 no doubt. I agree with your premise, kids are soft compared to when we played in the 80’s & 90’s.
Let’s see some simple concepts of defensive players staying home and not taking off as soon as movement starts by the offense. There was clearly a communication disfunction on defense. Not the whole 11 we’re on the same page
Little Jen flexed on Riley last night
🤣 Big donors flexed on Jen, who flexed on Riley! I imagine the conversation was something like Tropic Thunder where he had to choose between his friend and the G5 airplane.
USC needs to have a serious talk with Lincoln Riley. He needs to get some PR coaching for his postgame interviews so he can perform like a Professional who USC can be proud of. He seems to be vastly overrated. His chance of winning a National Championship is zero as he functions now! It was time to change the defense. Model Saban or Harbaugh?
We expect big changes on the defense going forward especially in the run game. The Big 10 teams run the football very well.
It be nice if we can recruit real linebackers, and D Linemen of appropriate size, DBs who can cover
IT's ABOUT TIME !!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎅 🎄
Choose wisely coach.
Yes now Wylie
Finally!!!!!!
Will this help the players tackle? I hope
I hope they get a DC that can recruit the So-Cal kids.I hope we can get Jim Leonard.
The problem is with USC’s recruiting is Lincoln. Riley doesn’t want to use NIL money for recruits and so Oregon has been beating us for a few years now they’ve been getting all the elite off until lineman from Southern California from Mater Dei and Saint John Bosco and they’re not going to Oregon. They’re going to Washington they’re going to Georgia they’re going to everywhere elsewhere people are paying the money to go there unless Lincoln Riley decides to use some of the NIL money on recruits then it’s not really gonna happen until we’re consecutively winning back to back seasons
Relieved... me, not he-who-shall-not-be-named. Literally saw the title and physically felt relieved. THE most baffling decision... not that HCLR made it, but that it took so long. Love the players, the remaining coaches. I believe in miracles!!! Be awesome in Autzen...duck hunting time! FightOnFreddy
If Grinch's defense had allowed opponents one touchdown per quarter (28 points/game) the Trojans would be undefeated.
True, but as the saying goes: “if ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas.”
@@toddmusser6537 No one says that, and it doesn't even make any sense when you actually think about it. 🤨🙄
The loss to Notre Dame was Caleb Williams' (and by extension, Riley's) fault, not so much the defense's. In fact, Riley deserves a lot of the blame for the team's overall performance this season. They managed to get by the first half of the season because they weren't playing ranked / quality opponents then (with the exception of Arizona who was still kind of getting it together with their back-up QB just starting his second game, and even then they gave 'SC a scare). But in this second half of the season, they are being exposed by better teams, and FAR BETTER coaches!
Riley's up-tempo style of offense, run ALL THE TIME, is simply not a good idea, period. Even Oregon moved away from that style of play after the Chip Kelly / Mark Helfrich years. The reason being is it wears out the WHOLE TEAM and makes them all play more snaps than necessary. Even if the offense succeeds, the drive is over in 2 to 3 minutes. This is very taxing on the defense as they don't get adequate time to rest. And if the offense doesn't succeed, then that just means the defense has to get back out onto the field that much faster! This is just a terrible overall plan. Riley ought to be held accountable for that. He was doing some of the same things in Oklahoma, and fans were noticing it there as well.
And finally, Caleb Williams is overrated too. The only reason he won the Heisman last year is because USC had a relatively easy schedule not having to play Oregon or Washington (and Notre Dame wasn't a good team last year either). The only truly good teams they played were Utah and Tulane, and they lost to Utah twice and the bowl game to Tulane. Caleb holds onto the ball too long hoping for that deep pass opportunity to pad his stats. His athleticism allows him to escape some pursuers trying to sack him, but against a good defense (especially good pass rushers), he can't rely on his usual tricks as often. Anyway, he has been exposed as well, and will likely be leaving after this season, because this team will get hammered by good defenses week after week once it moves to the Big 10!
@@alakbar7870 USC should be favored to beat UCLA because of Caleb Williams. But Oregon has a very good passing attack and better coaching on defense. Maybe the Trojans will sneak by the Ducks, but don't count on it.
@@alakbar7870 Don Meredith, former Cowboys quarterback said it on December 17, 1970 on Monday Night Football --- you probably weren't born at that point...
When you're ranked 122nd out of 133 FBS teams in total defense and 124th in scoring defense, there's not much worse you can get. This change is a long time coming. I would have made the move after the loss to Tulane. It seems like Grinch half-assed his way through his time at USC counting on the offense to outscore any opponent.
Sooners fans warned y’all
He is the Matt Canada of defensive coordinators
@@ChiefBlue4298 That's an insult to Mr. Canada
Dave Aranda at Baylor would be a great hire.
I just dont think he would give up his HC job at Baylor.
Although Alex Grinch's firing was inevitable, but I think the new Athletic Director Jenn Cohen accelerated the move. Cohen knows how to "read the tea leaves" like when she quickly fired UW football head coach Jimmy Lake.
Alex Grinch: If I’m going down, I’m taking Caleb’s career with me
Crazy that Calebs accounted for nearly 40TDs this year. Caleb leads all players in total TDs and 2nd in the country in passing yards per game. USC offense is 2nd as a team in total points per game… and yet the season is already over for them. Crazy that if they had just a plain bad defense ranked like 90th in the country they’d probably be 9-1 rn with a chance still at the Pac title and playoff berth, but they literally had the worst def among power 5 teams. Crazy to waste a generational QB talent going 7-5. Wow.
Bring back Coach O!
As much as I would love that, he's been a head coach of a major program, so it would be a step down for him. Besides, I believe he is enjoying his retirement. But it doesn't hurt to ask...
Wut!?!
Absolutely not! No more former coaches.
YAWN
#FireRileyFireGrinch
Long over due, grinch should have been fire at the end of last year season ending debacle.
The team’s failure all falls on Riley and his lack of leadership. If USC really wants to shake things up and get serious about turning the program around Riley should be fired as well. He alone brought this on the team. How can you recruit all the blue chippers retain a heisman winner and turn in one of the worst season’s in USC football. The new recruits thinking about signing with SC have got to be asking themselves why go to SC when you have an unproven HC who may not have what it takes to get a team to a championship game.
SC cannot ever fire Riley since he signed a l0 contract @ approximately 10 million per year. We are losing recruits from California so we need to fix that also.
Now they need to hire a good DC in the offseason.
Great DC coordinator!
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. The worst Defensive Coordinator in USC HISTORY
I hate that he no longer has a job but man it had to happen also I feel even better now Lincoln ain't going to the NFL soon
Too bad he already wasted Caleb's career smh
That’s on Riley. This should have happened at the end of last season.
Grinch's Washington State teams gave up 131 points to Washington in three Apple Cups. Just sayin'.
11 months too late. Horrible error in judgment. I question anyone who lets it go on so long.
Get Leonhard or seriously NDSU'S DC Petrino. He has 6 years of proven experience against RPO offenses both FCS and FBS.
With substitute teachers in at DC: (1) Oregon will stomp us into a mud hole, (2) ucla will have their best game against us, and (3) we are headed for the SRS First Responders Las Vegas Bowl or the El Paso Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl.
And HC LR saying we can still win the PAC-12 is a level of self-deceit I haven't seen in quite some time.
Sun bowl or La Bowl that's USC's options for 2023. I doubt Caleb plays in either bowl game. CFP contender to likely a game vs a Mountain west lol!!! Grinch best leave L.A or find some serious disguises to hide his face
Ed Orgeron time.
It’s always better to make the switch in-season, particularly when you either have championship aspirations or you fall short of those aspirations as it signals to your your recruits that the performance on the field wasn’t acceptable and that you are serious about getting the issues corrected by having a well thought out coaching hire. And it also signals the coaching community that a major coaching vacancy is available. So better earlier than later, if it’s possible.
Should be a fun game vs Oregon
Grinch should’ve been pink-slipped after the Tulane debacle.
Riley does not want a quality defense. He wants to outscore every opponent. That is not how to win anything meaningful.
I don’t see the point in firing Grinch now other than to ensure we lose our remaining games like we did when Donte Williams was named interim.
Besides, keeping Grinch for the rest of the season would’ve given me hope that our new AD would dump the entire staff.
Is grinch missing tackles is grinch 40 pounds lighter than his future big 10 opponents . Actually yes some of those coaches are huge fat guys . Seriously usc with very few exceptions is so small they don’t even look division 1 . Michigan Penn state even Wisconsin are huge compared to usc . They better get sone big bear size dudes or next season will be a 6 win at best .
Riley never has a a good defense. When he doesnt have a great QB the team will be really Bad!
I thought Jack was Lincoln Riley at first
I wish Coach Grinch the best. He will be well compensated.
Just the first step. Riley needs to realize that patty-cake practices won't get it done. The new DC needs to make it clear that tough practices will help, not only the defense, but the entire team!
About damn time and finally some good news for USC fans. Grinch is a bum and had to go
Riley finally maned up and coached up!
He didn't want this to happen, but there was too much pressure coming down on him
You mean jen cohen
Pretty sure everyone BUT him - had him fired... Im definitely giving Riley the side eye as well, that man loves abandoning the run...
Riley didnt make the decision. If it were up to him, Grinch would still be on the sideline
USC must make an offer to Jim Leonard NOW! An offer he can't refuse! Angel USC'78
Ken Norton Jr. Should be an option. He coached at USC during the Pete Carroll era during the last dynasty. He has coached for years in the NFL in Seattle and San Francisco. He was a defensive coordinator in the NFL too. How about Michigan State's former head coach Mel Tucker. Ken Norton Jr. coached and recruited current USC DB coach Taylor May's and many of the NFL hall of famers that played linebacker at USC duringthePete Carroll era. He was a phenomenal recruiter too. Mel Tucker was considered a defensive coordinator with genius level expertise prior to becoming a successful head coach prior to this year. Those two should be at the top of the list honestly. I also think they would do well with Alabama. Mel Tucker could easily be the heir apparent for the Alabama Crimson . or Assistant Head Coach under Riley at USC. Just saying. Here are thier Wikipedia files:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Tucker
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Norton_Jr.
FINALLY!!!!
Riley is the problem
Perhaps. I think we;ll have a clearer picture of whether that's the case after the end of another season. Moving forward, it should be made clear to Riley that, indeed, the "honeymoon" is over. We're not gonna sit through 3-4 loss seasons.
Think about it. He leaves one of the best programs ever. I'll leave it at that.
@@toddm9501 Only to go to one of the best programs ever
Good for firing the DC, no excuses for our loses last 2 years. Our offense were scoring points, and not stopping other teams was DC fault.
Let’s get a really good DC and make this a championship level team
Does this mean we won't have the Grinch for Christmas? Unfortunately, the other half of the problem is the play calling by Lincoln Riley. He refuses to depend on the running game which has an enormous impact on clock management. This means the defense will still be on the field more than the offense no matter who they have as defensive coordinator.
I’d like them to hire a NFL experienced coach. Donald D’Alesio a defensive assistant under Andy Reid could be a good fit. He has experience as a college DC and coaches DB for the Chiefs. He’s young and should understand how to recruit.
Lincoln Riley has never had a defense, e er. Anywhere. He fired Grinch to cover himself. Riley is to Blake. When you understand his goal is to outscore the other team, you understand he was a Mike Leach disciple. This is smoke and mirrors.
A BONUS for recruiting…
Never before have I seen someone take that much talent and literally make them forget how to tackle. Absolutely ridiculous and thank god it’s over
Coach O for front seven coach on defense. Knows how to develop talent, great motivator, exudes toughness and players love him.
No more former coaches...
They've had their time at USC.
Coach O is not coming. SC burnt him
Yes one of the best recruiters SC has had. They did do him wrong I agree.
Seriously grinch shouldn’t be fired like seriously let him finish out the season they have a winning record
To late. I feel bad for Williams.
About a year and a half too late. Also, maybe recruit some damn defensive guys
We told you???))
Lincoln doesnt like anybody telling him what to do or who to hire. If the AD made this decision Lincoln will be job hunting.
Grinch wasn't on the field playing, so only time will tell how much of a difference another coach will make?
Sooner fan seen your pain on the horizon 😂😂
Fight on baby ✌️ 🔴🟡🔴
Should have let history repeat its self and left him on the tarmac after the ASU game
Fight On ✌
49ers DC next to be canned.
Sweet fitted backwards hat my guy Jesus Christ you look so chill and so sick. FIGHT ON or whatever! *fart noise*
Nothing gonna change. Until we get a hard nose coach.
Congratulations, Grinch (you're a mean one).
You get to be the distraction that stops people talking about Caleb crying like a little girl.
Sc players need to get rid of some bad recreational habits.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAA
So much wasted money, hiring, firing, buy outs.. so much money $$ in sports, unbelievable. Millions in entertainment and sports.
🥳
Alex Grinch is not the root cause of USC's defensive woes, but keep drinking that sweet-sweet very expensive Lincoln Riley kool-aid USC. LR just tossed his "best friend" under the bus to save his own ass for a little while longer. That man has no spine, no character, and no respect for defensive football.
Regards, From a OU fan who has seen this movie before.
I’d worry about what bv is doing in soonerville
@shameless1047 OU's fine....Yes, going through a rough patch right now, but they are about where I thought they would be year 2 after getting gutted and trashed by the great offensive mastermind currently holding the top spot at USC.
Little lincoln will be looking to bolt. Once a quitter, Always a quitter. Good luck trojan fans.
Go coach Oklahoma
That would be the best thing to happen to SC. They can get a real head coach in who actually knows what a running play is.
You should probably be less worried about USC and more worried about how not to give up nearly 40 points to Kansas. Thanks for your opinion no one wanted.
Boomers y'all losing to bums we put 42 and should of won against a top 5 team
🙌🙌🙌✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
It’s not Grinch. Why would anyone resign from a million dollar job? Riley was culpable as he is the acting ceo along with cohen.
Just goes to show a unacceptable season & a bad loss can come with GOOD NEWS. The Grinch is on his way out of Whoville & little "Cindy-Lou Who" who is no more than two along with all the other USC fans will not have to suffer another stolen Christmas by the Grinch. Lincoln Riley is still under the gun in my book though. He's the Head Coach & he is the one that continues to abandon the run game, has not shown to be a solid recruiter & is the guy that brought Grinch back after last year. So Hopefully we get a solid top of the line DC but this is only the first step. We need to get more than just a few top Skill Players on the Offense as far as recruiting goes to be competitive & LR & his staff need to show they go out & do just that otherwise as a lifelong USC FAN I want COACH O back because in my mind he got done wrong when he was let go as the interim Head Coach at the end of that season. I know I am not the only USC FAN that feels that way. So lets see now what LR does from here on out NO MORE EXCUSES. If this dont really improve the program & turn USC around I am going to be the 1st one calling for LR head & screaming for USC to make amends to COACH O & bring him back. I still got LR on probation lets see what happens both in Recruiting & on the field next year. THIS COULDN'T BE BETTER NEWS!!!!!!!! FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!
Riley is a snake.
It's a little too late, but knowing grinch is gone I don't have to call anymore!! Watch and enjoy the game. Fight on!