LET'S TALK ABOUT SHOEGAZE ft. Nothing's Domenic Palermo | LAST WORDS

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  • This week on our heavy metal podcast LAST WORDS, Nothing's Domenic Palermo joins the show to talk about all things shoegaze and the genre's widespread acceptance in the metal community.
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  • @ThePit
    @ThePit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Want to hear the full, uncensored podcast? Listen & subscribe here: lnk.to/lastwords

    • @VT___
      @VT___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where can I find this review of the album that's being mentioned in the video?

    • @GreatGuad
      @GreatGuad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol ya ur dumb I want the music ur input is LAME

  • @JeserNoob
    @JeserNoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "Hey i shit talked your album also... im not really familiar with shoegaze.."
    B R UH

    • @elemenopycuaress7454
      @elemenopycuaress7454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      "I also have no respect for Smashing Pumpkins" like wtf it's ok to not like a thing but maybe recognise the difference between not liking a sound and denying a formative element of an entire genre.

    • @nestorgutierrez8311
      @nestorgutierrez8311 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      these people were mad annoying

  • @Daybreak_Enterprises_TV_
    @Daybreak_Enterprises_TV_ ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I honestly dont know how you could be a fan of guitar based music and not thoroughly enjoy Guilty of Everything.

  • @Alexanderbendo
    @Alexanderbendo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    love Domenic. Nothing is a great band

  • @user-vs5wd2cs5b
    @user-vs5wd2cs5b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If you are looking at these comments...move on...this conversation is a complete waste of time. Nothing is a great band. This lovely lady seems to have come on the scene a week before this video was made.

  • @Artefracture
    @Artefracture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How are these people legally adults.

  • @justinolley8513
    @justinolley8513 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    big respect for nicky letting these insufferable people talk about things they didnt know, but still try and get in a couple wise statements to maybe educate some people about where shoegaze comes from. mustve been very frustrating,. It's cool to see how hes chilled out and become more professional or respectful in these interviews in recent years OH and his band is better than ever!!!! the great dismal is an instant classic in the genre.
    AND Smashing Pumpkins are goated anyone who disagrees im telling you listen to the siamese dream album and then youll get it 3-4 songs in.

  • @sushirollthug
    @sushirollthug 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    dominic has the patience of a saint

  • @SHGZR
    @SHGZR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am with Dominic. They should try Smashing Pumpkins.

  • @comeonin76
    @comeonin76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    are these people for real? They seem to be facsimiles of people who like music to much

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One name Justin Broadrick, obviously his main band Godflesh but his other band Jesu is amazing shoegaze!

  • @dirtylikaratfpv6088
    @dirtylikaratfpv6088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dude. Gish... I, don't, remotely call myself a Smashing Pumpkins fan.. I personally don't own any of there music.. On CD or digitally for that matter, but Gish us with out doubt one of the best albums ever. And I mean that from every perspective. The band is tight as hell.. Every song is like a roller coaster ride (I am one , Siva especially like you have this driving intro.. This heavy build. Up.. This explosion.. This sort of calm resolution... Another sort of calm soothing build up and then that driving ass heavy shit again. I don't know if any of that made sense but there it is. Plus the proudtion on Gish is phenomenal. Katy..I FEEL YOU SISTER . Screw everythjng they've done BUT GISH BOO.... LISTEN TO GISH

    • @matthewreeves8408
      @matthewreeves8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree.

    • @judysblueeyes
      @judysblueeyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. I worked with them through that whole album and it’s by far their best pieces of music on GISH. Everything after is not even remotely near the level of brilliance that GISH encapsulates!!!

  • @rickyguerreiro
    @rickyguerreiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How much nonsense shit that girl and that metal guy can say? Meshugah shoegaze, the other likes Alcest but knows zero about shoegaze… it hurts just to listen! 😂😂 open your horizons if you want to use references from bands you know.

  • @ouisch23
    @ouisch23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    NOTHING is the best gaze band of all time💜💜💜

    • @OfficialYoungThugYoutube
      @OfficialYoungThugYoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no

    • @ouisch23
      @ouisch23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OfficialYoungThugTH-cam well I think so, it's called an opinion. I didn't ask you thougu, so.....

    • @OfficialYoungThugYoutube
      @OfficialYoungThugYoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ouisch23 you spelled thoughts wrong

    • @ouisch23
      @ouisch23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OfficialYoungThugTH-cam it was actually supposed to be "though". Way to read. Lol👍🏻

    • @OfficialYoungThugYoutube
      @OfficialYoungThugYoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ouisch23 you still spelled though wrong

  • @pomeloco1554
    @pomeloco1554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The female host is a typical naysayer. Reviews a strongly shoegazed band without digging into the prior to emitting her review. So bad.

  • @gorrilaman90
    @gorrilaman90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    hold up smashing pumpkins ain't even shoegaze

    • @tylercherneski1805
      @tylercherneski1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just saw spotify labeling them as shoegaze today too. Really weird, I have no idea hey smashing pumpkins even comes close to shoegaze minus some minor minor minor shoegazy backing vocals on 1979

    • @gorrilaman90
      @gorrilaman90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tylercherneski1805 like fr they really dont sound anything considerably close to the genre, even corgan himself hates that comparison because of how wrong it is

    • @tylercherneski1805
      @tylercherneski1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gorrilaman90 I've honestly never heard of them being called shoegaze before until yesterday and it makes zero sense to me.

    • @gorrilaman90
      @gorrilaman90 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylercherneski1805 ahh get it, ZERO

    • @yucaipakid123
      @yucaipakid123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can definitely see smashing pumpkins having shoegaze qualities, so I agree. I would at least consider some of Siamese dream to be shoegaze.

  • @chrismullaney6024
    @chrismullaney6024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am from Chicago and have seen the Pumpkins sooo many times.. Can't stand them... But Gish is SUCH a great album! Rocks!

  • @deityvessel7085
    @deityvessel7085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As usual, genres criticizing other genres. Bunch of elitists

  • @aaronchase1973
    @aaronchase1973 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I think of Shoegaze, I think of Curve, Ride, Lush, My Bloody Valentine, Swervedriver, etc. Even Blur’s “Oily Water” & “Sing” are Shoegaze to me.
    I’m not familiar with most of the newer bands you all mentioned. It’s cool that Shoegaze didn’t die from Britpop. It just spread its wings into other generations of bands.
    I have fond memories of Shoegaze from 89-92, but I think at the time people got bored of it. Glad it’s back, even if most of the original bands that started it are long gone.

    • @melocomanTV
      @melocomanTV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video and all bands mentioned are not carrying the torch of shoegaze forward

  • @photonfartsqueeze6694
    @photonfartsqueeze6694 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These people are woefully unaware of first wave Shoegaze and it’s affects on the modern revival.

  • @jessicagreer5015
    @jessicagreer5015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yay, someone else doesn’t like Smashing Pumpkins! 3 hour live set sounds like pure torture... 🤮😱

  • @ThomCoe
    @ThomCoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Doc: shoegaze... Deftones and Meshuggah.
    This is one of the worst things I’ve watched in a long time. It’s like when I was a teenager in the 90s and deathrock (goth punk) made a “comeback”. So many clueless music journalists had zero clue as to how to write about it and made dumb references to Coal Chamber instead of Misfits, Bauhaus or Joy Division. Even worse was the post hardcore/emo (Rites of Spring, Swing Kids, Heroin, etc) non-revival revival with nu metal influenced bands claiming to be “screamo”.

  • @rolandgonzales3343
    @rolandgonzales3343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was with their hookup in Houston, then I heard the next day from a friend how high they were, their live show was horrible and they were just wasted. I thought - that sounds about right. Hilarious!!! Smashing Pumpkins do have amazing studio albums though - that's undeniable.

    • @judysblueeyes
      @judysblueeyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well Billy played all the instruments on Gish as well as others after due to his control and perfection frenzy. The band was just not sounding the way he wanted it to sound. This also in turn caused a super amount of animosity and difficulty playing solid live. Hence all the fallouts that continued after their debut of GISH. Which is their most brilliant work. Other is ok. Would never categorize SP as SG band except for many tunes on Gish. I still have a cassette of Gish with the songs typed out that were only given to people in and close to band. Was in industry and good friend was besties with Who she called “Billy Pumpkin”

  • @ryeann2567
    @ryeann2567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a painful video. I'm not sure there could have been a worse panel to talk Shoegaze or NOTHING. The Deftones??? Seriously? That's your Shoegaze barometer? Wtf.

  • @brianporter138
    @brianporter138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They are definitely not overrated. I don't listen to them a lot but whoever thinks that they are knows nothing about art or music and that's the unfortunate truth. Some people may not like them but they are definitely not overall. Thats just an idiotic question , plain and simple, and going to see a band play for 3 hours that you feel "lukewarm" about ? Well that's just stupid.

  • @releasethe01
    @releasethe01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:38 slowdive, catherine wheel, lush... what's the 4th band?

    • @aneleaveizam
      @aneleaveizam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pale Saints, but you probably figured that out already

  • @simpleexplodingmaybe
    @simpleexplodingmaybe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After a metalgaze episode you’ve gotta review the new Jesu album from Justin Broadrick next time

  • @GR8_S8N
    @GR8_S8N ปีที่แล้ว

    ..Gish all the way up to Zwan are worth hearing if you're diving in Pumpkins/Corgan territory (post Zwan however... stitch in time was good...)

  • @photonfartsqueeze6694
    @photonfartsqueeze6694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “DeeJenty” lol

  • @danmorrison8746
    @danmorrison8746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Godsmack is a great Alice in Chains song and a terrible band name. Doc's takes are eye popping sometimes

  • @dreamsburndown9164
    @dreamsburndown9164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Critics. Lol

  • @GreatGuad
    @GreatGuad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok Sargent stutter why dont you make music?

  • @trentonsmallwood8273
    @trentonsmallwood8273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your shirt mercyful kate

  • @shaka_lutherking7152
    @shaka_lutherking7152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LMAO Doc said "dajango"... Hahaha

  • @juliekelley3747
    @juliekelley3747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i amn ,ooking for4e help bitgvc gi away

  • @Dsowers777
    @Dsowers777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first shoegaze bands considered themselves advanced guitar music: the term shoegaze literally ruined most of their careers. Even the first emo bands like cap n jazz and fugazi were considered weirdo punk rock. Subgenres and this need to constantly compare is soo inane and stupid

  • @ozmarichardson6524
    @ozmarichardson6524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok Domenic, wtf is up with "cease to coexist"? Just some edgy stuff or what?