Loosing the unlimited range from the eagle is going to be a huge meta shift. Very surprised they removed that...And the th now being a defense form the start of the attack without activation is going to very different
i thought so too but then i thought about it for a little and i think the utility and strength from th17 is more than having an EA and th16, although i will miss the giant EA range in the town halls going forward
Definitely a house for the hero that will not be utilized in attacks since you can only bring 4 and there will be 5 with the new minion hero. I also assume they pushed the archer queen to an earlier town hall because they plan on making the minion hero available at th9 and will have the clan house available starting at th8. So effectively you can either bring an archer queen or barbarian king into a th8 attack. And at th9 you will be able to use two heros as normal, with the choice between minion hero, archer queen, or barbarian king.
@@emwolsis that confirmed that the minion hero will be unlocked a th9? i just assumed they pushed the archer queen down to th8 since when u unlock it at th9, its 30 levels that u have to upgrade and it might be a little overwhelming
@ it’s not confirmed but this to me makes the most sense. They want lower level players to have access to some of the new features. It would make sense that don’t want “choice of hero in an attack” feature to only be unlockable at the highest town halls but rather when you first start unlocking multiple heroes
Confirm leak - hero hall where u can set any 4 heroes for attack or defense along with pets and equipment i guess and equipment buliding will be gone i guess
Literally what is the point of supercharging defenses so early on? They might as well be permanent levels seeing as they'll last a year. I don't want to see blue sparkles on my defenses
I wish. They should have fixed it as soon as it was discovered. But they have actually made changes to keep it alive over the years. I hate it personally. It always feels like an exploit.
I think the th weapon and dmg is way lower compared to the previous th and the fact that eagle is also in it. And I expected the th to have way more hp now bcz of the double high def merge.
I dont understand how the Town Hall Weapon is an Upgrade Lmao.. The base weapon damage isnt even stronger than the TH16 version let alone an eagle on top with it...??
@@jordanwallace4086dont u think the poison is going to be very annoying to deal with though?... Also there is going to be other stronger defences added so it wont be that easy... Since u wont know when to pop warden ability in a well designed base
I think the blimp thingy will require more skill, as th activates right away so it will shoot on the blimp when it's near and then u can't open blimp near it anymore as the poison from shots still remains for few seconds which can kill the blimp troops, pretty similar mechanism like poison tower. While doing blimp we had to be wary about poison towers dropping on the blimp location now we got another one. Pretty sure it's not gonne be easy to do blimp in th17
@@djgames5880 I don't think u understood what I mean, I am not questioning the safety of blimp here I am referring to the safety of troops that come out after the blimp is opened Which isn't covered by eternal tome as we send the blimp with it, the troops are not affected by it. When blimp approaches the town hall, the th will immediately shoot towards it and the area it shot we can't deploy our blimp there cuz The shots have after poison effect, get what I mean now? Base builders can build bases in such a way that safe blimp spots are covered by the town hall poison shots and anything ahead us covered by giant bombs and the new bomb trap? Now u get what I mean?
Definitely a house for the hero that will not be utilized in attacks since you can only bring 4 and there will be 5 with the new minion hero. I also assume they pushed the archer queen to an earlier town hall because they plan on making the minion hero available at th9 and will have the clan house available starting at th8. So effectively you can either bring an archer queen or barbarian king into a th8 attack. And at th9 you will be able to use two heros as normal, with the choice between minion hero, archer queen, or barbarian king.
Is quite smart from supercell that in the recent upgrades we are being forced to upgrade to max some buildings (archer towers and canon in the past, and now the eagle). Rushing will be more complicated for higher TH
attacking lower town halls Or they should just make that the new town hall counts towards the town hall and the eagle achievments. Right now in clan games if you have a goal of destroying cannons or archertowers the merged ones also dont count, they should fix that too.
Queen level 100 was a dream back then in 2014 ❤ ....the moment has finally arrived! So excited about this particularly.....been playing since that time🙃
Seems like they’re really targeting spam strategies with the new TH weapon and added levels for the bomb and wiz towers - will be interesting to see how this affects the meta!
Town hall being active immediately and removal of giga bomb and poison are huge mistakes, especially with the limited range. Should’ve at least made the range the median of what it currently is and that of Capital Hall.
Idk how I feel about the giga bomb being gone from the th, and especially it being visible for the attacker. That's kind of stupid. Also the th doesn't do nearly as much damage anymore
New building is hero hall it just selects heros New spell is revive spell that brings backs dead heroes New hero Minion prince His equipments minion puper may be not sure and dark bomb i think Grand warden wont be statue any more on defence There is a Lab apprentice comming New defence Fire spitter Apprentice builder can get a house New event tab
Hopefully there will be some actual content this TH, TH16 was a massive dissapointment in that. just 2 pets for offense and the merge mechanic for defense. TH9-TH15 all have massive gameplay changes and TH16 was a massive dissapointment in that regard.
interesting most Clashers dont seem to like the Th16 design For me its the most beautiful and creative Base design. I love the red+nature theme. I also like the druid troop. Nature+Fantasy is one of my favorite genres
Looks like there is a house for the hero that will not be utilized in attacks since you can only bring 4 and there will be 5 with the new minion hero. I also assume they pushed the archer queen to an earlier town hall because they plan on making the minion hero available at th9 and will have the hero house available starting at th8. So effectively you can either bring an archer queen or barbarian king into a th8 attack. And at th9 you will be able to use two heros as normal, with the choice between minion hero, archer queen, or barbarian king.
the th is so much weaker than before which is idiotic considering it was merged with a key defense, all this change does is make blimps even more op then they already were. getting rid of the poison makes zero sense
The giga bomb being taken out from the th and being visible is going to be an insane game changer. I'm really excited to see how the meta develops with that plus the eagle/th merge. I always thought the th bomb was a bit too much, but I never thought or expected it to be completely taken out of the th. Each siege machine counted 25 housing space for the eagle and for challenges, do you know if it will also trigger the giga bomb? For example does a blimp passing over trigger the explosion? If that works triple yeti blimps will actually be insane
Lol the new townhall weapon is pretty weak compared to removing the epic eagle artillery (especially with no bomb and poison effect after exploding)... And triple yeti blimp is going to be insane. So no, townhall 17 is not going to be that hard. Probably the same difficulty as townhall 16.
The TH17 has a lot of cons i. terms of defense. Yeah, the great inferno on townhall is great but the artillery being merged is a lot down to defense plus the giga bomb unattached to the townhall is a big mistake and also the giga bomb now has no poison effect that can wipe out large amount of push army. sadly the attacks now is more easy like a th9 era
Nah, all spam and blimp super will not, except fireball, your blimp and spam troop will get poison overtime and they move together the damage will be insane
@@jordanwallace4086 LOL. Well, 200 isn't half either then so who knows. Maybe they are splitting it up in smaller chunks or that part just isn't complete.
Queen Walk won't be viable to be sent into TH compartment, since the new TH weapon will be able to hit the Healers. Warden walk on the other hand should still be viable
TH 17 seems like a serious downgrade! - Initially when th isn't activated, defense targetting troops do not target TH. - Damage rate has actually decreased. The effective part is the splash poison damage. - Eagle artillery with unlimited range gone. - Bomb with the TH separated. - Range increase from 10 to 12 tiles.
the TH is activated from the very start of the battle btw. The damage rate has decreased perhaps, but you can not longer freely take it with a Flame Flinger or a Queen Walk since the new TH weapon can hit a FF or the Healers that are sitting behind the Queen
queen charge is definitely not the most popular attack. even if u only look at pro players. most pros r running super witches, titans or warden charge rocket loons. queen charges fell out of the meta when th16 released
@@Reversely I believe QC will still work, one invis Or freeze will work, and there is no after effect of th poison so queen+healers can simply walk after th is destroyed, that's a plus too. Overall a plus and a minus I guess
Galadon already done 😅
Yes😂
Yeah but barely plays
He leaked it early, and should have his code taken for it.
Except Itzu better 😘
@@CoreyDuhSavageyeah, everyone else is posting up right now. He must've broken the embargo period. That's sketchy
Now people will really gotta prioritize protecting TH
repent to God
TH now is a lot weaker than before. This update must be a joke but I like the design of all new level except the townhall
Loosing the unlimited range from the eagle is going to be a huge meta shift. Very surprised they removed that...And the th now being a defense form the start of the attack without activation is going to very different
i thought so too but then i thought about it for a little and i think the utility and strength from th17 is more than having an EA and th16, although i will miss the giant EA range in the town halls going forward
@@skippi99r32 Yeah, I'm not saying it will be any weaker, it will just require some big changes in approach.
Really curious what the purple structure with the hero logo on the roof is
Definitely a house for the hero that will not be utilized in attacks since you can only bring 4 and there will be 5 with the new minion hero.
I also assume they pushed the archer queen to an earlier town hall because they plan on making the minion hero available at th9 and will have the clan house available starting at th8. So effectively you can either bring an archer queen or barbarian king into a th8 attack. And at th9 you will be able to use two heros as normal, with the choice between minion hero, archer queen, or barbarian king.
Hero Guild
@@emwolsis that confirmed that the minion hero will be unlocked a th9? i just assumed they pushed the archer queen down to th8 since when u unlock it at th9, its 30 levels that u have to upgrade and it might be a little overwhelming
@ it’s not confirmed but this to me makes the most sense. They want lower level players to have access to some of the new features. It would make sense that don’t want “choice of hero in an attack” feature to only be unlockable at the highest town halls but rather when you first start unlocking multiple heroes
Confirm leak - hero hall where u can set any 4 heroes for attack or defense along with pets and equipment i guess and equipment buliding will be gone i guess
Just Overgrowth th 😂
Facts. Without poison bomb threat it won’t be as much an issue when it wakes up right on your troops
@emwols new th well activate directly when troops reach th range , not like privious th after 50%
@@yinkhahkhh4312 I should have said “blows up” or “gets destroyed” right on troops I didn’t mean “wakes up” my bad
Overgrowth spells are the new Edrag spam: just no skill whatsoever throw it down n get guaranteed two star sometimes 3
the overall design is so good. but they sold with not making the walls sharper like the wizard tower and storages
that is literally the best looking town hall i've ever seen dayum😮😮
Literally what is the point of supercharging defenses so early on? They might as well be permanent levels seeing as they'll last a year. I don't want to see blue sparkles on my defenses
give max players more to spend on without slowing down players from catching up.
Supercell hates queen charge
I wish. They should have fixed it as soon as it was discovered. But they have actually made changes to keep it alive over the years. I hate it personally. It always feels like an exploit.
@@CrisWhetstone if they remove queen charges I'm removing coc from my device.
@@Jack-jc1ht *shrug* I always wonder why people only play games for the exploits.
@@CrisWhetstone you hate it because you can't do it .😂
It's not chesty but high skill attack method .
@@CrisWhetstone define an exploit
I think the th weapon and dmg is way lower compared to the previous th and the fact that eagle is also in it. And I expected the th to have way more hp now bcz of the double high def merge.
Finally after galadon thing😅
I can already see TH 17 getting three starred left and right.
I dont understand how the Town Hall Weapon is an Upgrade Lmao.. The base weapon damage isnt even stronger than the TH16 version let alone an eagle on top with it...??
@@jordanwallace4086 Yes.
@@jordanwallace4086dont u think the poison is going to be very annoying to deal with though?... Also there is going to be other stronger defences added so it wont be that easy... Since u wont know when to pop warden ability in a well designed base
There isn't a poison effect anymore. It's just DOT@@yashc9087
Most average players are confused. It's understandable, people without good legend finishes are usually stupid and more talkative.
RIP EAGLE ARTILLERY😢
Ring bases incoming...
The giant bomb and poisen of townhall 17 is removed and i think that big mistake. Now you can easy destroy townhall by superarcher clone or any troops
I think the blimp thingy will require more skill, as th activates right away so it will shoot on the blimp when it's near and then u can't open blimp near it anymore as the poison from shots still remains for few seconds which can kill the blimp troops, pretty similar mechanism like poison tower.
While doing blimp we had to be wary about poison towers dropping on the blimp location now we got another one. Pretty sure it's not gonne be easy to do blimp in th17
@@Shuribusan Yeah but we can just use yetis instead
Warden ability @@Shuribusan
@@djgames5880 I don't think u understood what I mean, I am not questioning the safety of blimp here
I am referring to the safety of troops that come out after the blimp is opened
Which isn't covered by eternal tome as we send the blimp with it, the troops are not affected by it.
When blimp approaches the town hall, the th will immediately shoot towards it and the area it shot we can't deploy our blimp there cuz
The shots have after poison effect, get what I mean now? Base builders can build bases in such a way that safe blimp spots are covered by the town hall poison shots and anything ahead us covered by giant bombs and the new bomb trap? Now u get what I mean?
@@Shuribusan lot of ways are there …. U can use eternal tome cover for instance….with eagle gone basically theres no threat left
7:43 What's that building in the bottom compartment near the Ricochet Cannon🤔
😉
Definitely a house for the hero that will not be utilized in attacks since you can only bring 4 and there will be 5 with the new minion hero.
I also assume they pushed the archer queen to an earlier town hall because they plan on making the minion hero available at th9 and will have the clan house available starting at th8. So effectively you can either bring an archer queen or barbarian king into a th8 attack. And at th9 you will be able to use two heros as normal, with the choice between minion hero, archer queen, or barbarian king.
@@emwolsyeah bro i am totally agree on that.
Th 17 weapon is kinda weak compared to the eagle and it is not worth it to combine them right now tbh.
repent to God
what you gonna do? stay at th16😂😂 🤦🏽♀️
@@jagmbaksvshsh😂
The new Townhall is going to cause a lot of difficulty in attacking.
@@jagmbaksvshsh 😂
I have prepped my hammers and books for this... I'll be 20% thru the flagship defences on day 1😂
Same lmao, hammer jam packs came in clutch
Is quite smart from supercell that in the recent upgrades we are being forced to upgrade to max some buildings (archer towers and canon in the past, and now the eagle).
Rushing will be more complicated for higher TH
Stopped playing at th 15, is this the way they plan to stay under 100 buildings by mearging th with eagle lol
how will people achieve the eagle artilley achievment?
that's actually a good question
attacking lower town halls
Or they should just make that the new town hall counts towards the town hall and the eagle achievments.
Right now in clan games if you have a goal of destroying cannons or archertowers the merged ones also dont count, they should fix that too.
I would guess destroying the townhall will count towards the achievement now
Eagle artillery is merging with Town Hall on TH17 not on lower levels, so until then you'll have time to complete the achievement.
Free 1000 gems yeyyyyu
Queen level 100 was a dream back then in 2014 ❤ ....the moment has finally arrived! So excited about this particularly.....been playing since that time🙃
I think it is time, as a town hall 14, to drop out of legends league 😅😅😅😅
Ayoooo the hero alters 😂
Air is gonna be the meta with yeti blimp and and spamming any dragon
Old eagle was coolerr T.T
I really like the theme of this TH the walls look really good and the new defense designs look super detailed
Seems like they’re really targeting spam strategies with the new TH weapon and added levels for the bomb and wiz towers - will be interesting to see how this affects the meta!
Town hall being active immediately and removal of giga bomb and poison are huge mistakes, especially with the limited range.
Should’ve at least made the range the median of what it currently is and that of Capital Hall.
Small boss was here 💀
Rip Eagle Artillery (2015-2024)😢
Remember they only said no new equipment levels at th17 launch
Thanks to GALADON GAMING😂
Yup😅
repent to God
@@Baggerz182 repent to my ass
Itzu a small question 🙋♂️
Does giga bomb get separated in the lower townhalls as well?
no. it’s only for th17
Obviously not... It's so obvious😒
4:19 So, Level 17 is 9 million and level 18 is 8 million.
no 17 is lesser
No, level 17 walls are reduced to 7M
repent to God
@@Baggerz182 ?
ngl Townhall weaponry Damage is pretty underwelming
Facts
I didn't even expect TH to merge with eagle just to add 400 hp its quite a nerf 😂
wait until new defenses are announced
@@ORHAN-g5w But that won't change that the TH damage is low :/
Town hall was supposed to be nerfed.
The design of TH11, 14 & 16 are my favorites. First impression of TH17 design is mwoah.
They should add a directive spell where wherever you place it your troops go to
7:48 I was gonna say th17 look menacing, but sexy works too LOL
Idk how I feel about the giga bomb being gone from the th, and especially it being visible for the attacker. That's kind of stupid. Also the th doesn't do nearly as much damage anymore
New building is hero hall it just selects heros
New spell is revive spell that brings backs dead heroes
New hero Minion prince
His equipments minion puper may be not sure and dark bomb i think
Grand warden wont be statue any more on defence
There is a Lab apprentice comming
New defence Fire spitter
Apprentice builder can get a house
New event tab
#7:49 wholesome itzu said that. 💀💀
Hopefully there will be some actual content this TH, TH16 was a massive dissapointment in that. just 2 pets for offense and the merge mechanic for defense. TH9-TH15 all have massive gameplay changes and TH16 was a massive dissapointment in that regard.
They nerfed the townhall 😂😂😂😂😂
interesting most Clashers dont seem to like the Th16 design
For me its the most beautiful and creative Base design.
I love the red+nature theme.
I also like the druid troop.
Nature+Fantasy is one of my favorite genres
Looks like there is a house for the hero that will not be utilized in attacks since you can only bring 4 and there will be 5 with the new minion hero.
I also assume they pushed the archer queen to an earlier town hall because they plan on making the minion hero available at th9 and will have the hero house available starting at th8. So effectively you can either bring an archer queen or barbarian king into a th8 attack. And at th9 you will be able to use two heros as normal, with the choice between minion hero, archer queen, or barbarian king.
FINALLY SNEAK PEAKS LETS GOOO
the th is so much weaker than before which is idiotic considering it was merged with a key defense, all this change does is make blimps even more op then they already were. getting rid of the poison makes zero sense
The giga bomb being taken out from the th and being visible is going to be an insane game changer. I'm really excited to see how the meta develops with that plus the eagle/th merge. I always thought the th bomb was a bit too much, but I never thought or expected it to be completely taken out of the th.
Each siege machine counted 25 housing space for the eagle and for challenges, do you know if it will also trigger the giga bomb? For example does a blimp passing over trigger the explosion? If that works triple yeti blimps will actually be insane
lol you think that it helps no it will make it more difficult as cloned loons is a waste of spells for just the TH
Yeah the blimp passing over triggers the explosion saw it in judo's video, the trap triggered while the blimp was on it
Galadon already done 😂yesterday
Everyone else is putting it up today, Galadon might have skipped the embargo
This makes it sound like TH17 is going to be super hard but also the devs have clearly tried to make it well balanced
Lol the new townhall weapon is pretty weak compared to removing the epic eagle artillery (especially with no bomb and poison effect after exploding)... And triple yeti blimp is going to be insane.
So no, townhall 17 is not going to be that hard. Probably the same difficulty as townhall 16.
Thanks for the info, itzu. 👍
Hey ITzu do you know if th16 and below will keep the townhall poison/slowdown effects and the explosion instead of the new giga bomb?
No shit
Some of those new defense levels look awesome honestly. Gotta give them some credit for design there.
Finally 🎉🎉🎉
Galadon the ultimate legend❤❤
Can’t wait for itzu to buy everything first day and then use this advantage to take 1st again
3:02 Queen's nightmare 😅
8M wall with 20% gold pass discount i assume, right? So 10M without GP.
No, its just 8m
@@FishinYou And then TH16 walls will be discounted +2M? thats crazy tbh
@@robertmobu7556 They'll get cost reductions probably, would be crazy otherwise for sure
it’s dev build. there is no gold pass or pass in general on it unless u specifically add it on to show it off
No, they will be 8m (default), so it will be 6.4m with 20% GP, Townhall 16 walls will be 7m (default) so 5.6m with 20% GP
I'm going to no life it with this game and my 10 accounts over Thanksgiving break. So many new things to play with. I'm excited.
The TH17 has a lot of cons i. terms of defense. Yeah, the great inferno on townhall is great but the artillery being merged is a lot down to defense plus the giga bomb unattached to the townhall is a big mistake and also the giga bomb now has no poison effect that can wipe out large amount of push army. sadly the attacks now is more easy like a th9 era
Nah,spam/push army will get poison and slow overtime before reach th,plus blimp super can't drop troop because th shoot poison
Any else notice Itzu use his thumb to indicate three, and then immediately think of the scene from Inglorious Bastards?
I believe max th16 can triple max th17 easily with max heroes's equipment.
th17 isn’t done. in about ~6 months from now they’re going to release the second update for th17 which will come with more levels
Even th15 can lol
Nah, all spam and blimp super will not, except fireball, your blimp and spam troop will get poison overtime and they move together the damage will be insane
Only 100 walls to be upgraded? Should be 200
They've done this the last couple years. Only half of the walls can be upgraded now. Then the other half with the summer update.
@@CrisWhetstone U do realise 100 Walls isnt Half of 325
@@jordanwallace4086 LOL. Well, 200 isn't half either then so who knows. Maybe they are splitting it up in smaller chunks or that part just isn't complete.
The hero altars looks smaller than before.
To make space
@@Mooner-v3b is this for everyone ? or only if you reach level 100 on heroes
@@Razgris pretty sure everyone
itzu, is it still possible to do your queen/warden walk at th17?
Warden walk could be better now since less damage on warden and healers at a safe distance from town hall damage
Did you even watch the video?
Queen Walk won't be viable to be sent into TH compartment, since the new TH weapon will be able to hit the Healers. Warden walk on the other hand should still be viable
People are now going to have to figure out how to defend their base without the Eagle distraction from opposing sides of the base from the TH
They removed the eagle and nerfed the townhall wtf. And why make the giga bomb visible 😂
Good diddy
Wait, so should I stop doing the super charge levels for the current defenses?
The current supercharged defenses are not getting a new level.... so continue supercharging them.
To be honest I hope that hammer gam stays a little bit longer it's a great aportonety for us to catch up with higher tawn hall levels 😅
I bet you that they are only doing sneak peek one today because Galadon leaked it yesterday 😂
TH 17 seems like a serious downgrade!
- Initially when th isn't activated, defense targetting troops do not target TH.
- Damage rate has actually decreased. The effective part is the splash poison damage.
- Eagle artillery with unlimited range gone.
- Bomb with the TH separated.
- Range increase from 10 to 12 tiles.
the TH is activated from the very start of the battle btw. The damage rate has decreased perhaps, but you can not longer freely take it with a Flame Flinger or a Queen Walk since the new TH weapon can hit a FF or the Healers that are sitting behind the Queen
Also Galadon did it first😂
That wizard tower looks amazing! Love the design.
Removing the poison is such a bad idea lol
minion prince incoming
thanks Galdon!
RIP ground attacks
✅Tx17 towin Hall Level ✅
MADEN IN UKRENE FRUM KIEV 🇺🇦🇺🇦
It will be tough to locate buildings because of the color of the buildings.
Wait the townhall targeting the healers is just badddd. Queen charge is literally the most popular attack
queen charge is definitely not the most popular attack. even if u only look at pro players. most pros r running super witches, titans or warden charge rocket loons. queen charges fell out of the meta when th16 released
@@Reversely I believe QC will still work, one invis Or freeze will work, and there is no after effect of th poison so queen+healers can simply walk after th is destroyed, that's a plus too. Overall a plus and a minus I guess
Queen charge is obsolete just do smash attacks or air blimp raid
All strategies and base designs we've used over the years change dramatically because of eagle/th merge. Good or bad? I don't know.
Very bad … coc is going downhill with defense nerf just catering the noobs
Not having to activate TH for fireball is nice, and RC rocket spear
I know that I’m out of the topic, but I miss the F2P series, I want it back if u wish
I honestly believe COC TH17 will be easier than COC th16 I mean 16 vs 16 gonna be more challenging than 17 vs 17 .. but just gotta wait on see.
Th17 with the justice scenery will look dope🤩🤩
Oscar level acting 😂😂😂
absolutely love the design but i'm still th15 😭 hope by the time i get to th17 there wont be th18 releasing lol
Rip queen charge strategies
Galadon is the name of the new hero
😂
can you use hammer to finish TH upgrade?
rip eagle and this game(
The archer queen change is so random I wonder why they did that
I dont understand why the rockets change the target before it dies.. and why we still have that th15 archer tower and cannon...
AT and Canon are for Geared up versions as you can't merge those.
archer towers and cannons will not receive any new levels because they will eventually all change into merged defences
TBH the town hall design dosent do it for me, but man everything else looks so damn cool
2 dragon riders and loon blimp with triple clone should be interesting.
The designs look cool
07:51 😂