I'm 75 and have been thinking about expanding my home layout, which takes up about half my basement, and maybe buying one or two of great looking remote-controlled engines that are available. But then I was also thinking, "I'm 75, maybe I ought to start thinking about scaling back and selling off some of the stuff I have." You've inspired me.
Thank you. Like they use to say in 70s 'keep on truckin' 😂😂, all my trains will end up with my four grandsons and they can do what ever they wish with them
This is absolutely the finest layout I've ever seen. The only mistake is thinking that there are mistakes! I beautiful job, well done! I'm looking forward to more video's. HG
What a wonderful accomplishment. No derailments, smooth operation through the switches and what appears to be a massive, intricate and interesting track plan. Any and all issues can be remedied over time. Most observers marvel at the entire picture and don't notice things that you are aware of. Great job! I started my first large permanent layout five years ago at 78 years old, and am so happy I did. Still adding details.
I wish I had all that space for my layout. As long as you can get to all areas of the layout,I don’t see anything wrong. Love to see the progress. Good luck.
What’s the lesson here? Hard work, imagination, hard work, vision, hard work, determination-did I mention hard work and watching role models build their dream is a lesson that perhaps one day I will build my dream. Thanks for sharing and giving us something to shoot for.
I truly would like to write an original comment, but the positive message I wish to convey has already been so well expressed by others. This is incredible! Something tells me you are visualizing the scenery, buildings, etc. as you operate your trains on the layout as it is now. Something also tells me your layout will be as exquisite as you envision!
Thank you everyone for your comments, I plan to answer all questions and try to give a more detailed explanation of the title😅😅 I have been on the clock to get the man cave and layout ready for 8th December, for our Chrissy show and only just now realised how many of you have commented. By Monday everything will be back to normal (I hope) and I'll begin explanations. Many thanks👍👍👍👍👍
God what an impressive layout. Everything after that track laying is just a formality. I hope to one day have the time, space, energy, motivation, and knowledge to create something even nearly as impressive as this. I wish you dry rails and smooth running.
I'm 74, don't be sad if you think you won't be able to finish what you started; you have done more than most; you have made a great whimsical railroad. You should do no more, just fine tune what you have made. I Love seeing all the construction marks on the wood. Do Not paint. The train drivers view is great; very steady do to your excellent shaping of the 'rail bed.' I see all thread is your best friend. Greg
I’m 78 and in the process of building my 9th different layout. Each one was either smaller or larger than the previous one. I will never have the money tied up in my layouts as you have in this one. Trains have been a part of my life since day one.
I have amended the title (slightly) and that leads me the points I should have seriously considered before starting the construction of the layout. 1. Consider your age 2. Big is not better!!! 3. Plan the layout in what you want 4. Before starting, create a plan and decide how the construction phase will develop. 5. Legs? Permanent? Or wheeled? Height? Brace after form work completed. 6. Will you use threaded rods or ribs, or both. Decide where they go and how they fit. 7. If possible, print out the design 1:1 that can be laid on the form work. 8. Speaking of the form work, pick the right type of construction, size of timber, and what the layout will support. 9. Get your head totally around the levels of the layout, which is 00, the form work or the sheet. (had lot’s of problems with that in making a decision and sticking to it. 10. If you feel you will have problems with helixes, research all details on different types of constructions. 11 And the golden rule, measure twice, cut once. There were some more rules, but having senior moments, I can’t think of them. These are all the points I should have taken into consideration before I began, and the main one should have been planning the order of construction. That’s why I titled it How not to build a layout, and I definitely did not want the title to be click bait. I will now try to answer all your comments as best as I can.
@@SSandA2 HO scale Aussie from Adelaide and if you mean model railroading, getting my Märklin train set for Christmas in 1957 (still have) in Germany and collecting ever since.
@@mmrcsa Thanks for replying. We have our barbeque in July. It's an upside down World. I won't ask about which way the water flushes in your toilet - but now I'm curious how an Aussie gets to Germany. Sounds like an overseas posting.
@@SSandA2 I was born in a country that doesn't exist anymore, moved to Germany in '56 and came to Australia in '59 with my Märklin train set well packed in all our gear we were taking with us
That looks like a ton of work and planning went into that layout. I'd love to have enough room in build something even half the size of your layout. The fact the locomotive ran smooth with no power hiccups and there wasn't a single derailment means it's well planned, well built, and well maintained. Good job on functionality. Now just start piecing in the scenery and you'll be set.
Thank you, but in actual fact I should have planned more and not been so greedy in trying to fill the whole area, at my age there are certain things that you can't do like you used😂😂. The system is Märklin three rail and their double slips are known to be temperamental, so I feel I was lucky. And again many thanks on your praise.
Thank you. Bench work could have been better, but at the moment it is holding👍 I am totally surprised how well they work, knowing how temperamental the Märklin double slips can be
Märklin tracks have absolutely no issue with dirt on the track. I had even slightly rusty M-tracks and could run my 40yr old trains on them no problem. C-tracks are even better in this regard.
All I saw was a beautifully executed design that runs smoothly and is very visually interesting. As with all the artistic people I know, all you can see in your own work is the imperfections. Know that no one is perfect but this layout is magnificent! Enjoy it and know that it's head and shoulders above the overwhelming majority of layouts I've seen. Congratulations!
Not that I know anything at all about model train layouts except that I enjoy watching them and wish I had one, but I'm not sure what you are talking about because it looks pretty darn awesome to me. Thanks for the ride.
Amazing, all track tested and working so it's going to be fun. However,... I would fear some of those longer stretches of unsupported plywood are going to sag a bit in the future. Knowing it's probably not convenient to add more supports some narrow stringers could be added under the longer sections. Think "I-Beams" but just strips of 1/2 ply 1 1/2 to 2 inches wide and it will never develop a sway.
@@mmrcsa I was not sure about expressing my observation, but the more I thought about it I'd hate to see that nice of trackwork have problems down the road. Like most all things in life a good foundation is needed for success. Enjoy, that layout is going to be an amazing amount of fun,..
I would say that you are doing a brilliant job at your age.. never give up because you can only enjoy this life once?? & what better way is to be doing that than living though your childhood all over again with ideas you have now but also wish you had in your younger days.. Great thing you are doing & lets see more in the near future.
For the most part, the track is laid out very well and love the way the locomotive flies through the switches with ease! My only tiny thing that would bother me, is some sudden angular deviations while the trains is moving, ie: 1:11 & 2:31 and I'm sure the locomotive clipped those wires at 3:08. 😎👍
And I was feeling pretty proud of myself for making a hanging platform to run three connected loops. To me, a very much novice modeller, this is a spectacular layout. I'd love to have a layout this long and big to run some of my locomotives on.
Thanks for the ride! The amount of hidden train yards hints to future operations with a lot of trains! Have fun with it and keep sending updates, please. Very nice. Have you thought about adding roads that can be used with those remote controlled cars/trucks or Faller/Magnorail tracked cars? I want to do that to have my grandchildren involved early...
Thank you. The only thought at the moment is to have it running as trouble free as possible, as Murphy struck in the past couple of days, on my own, no probs, have a viewing audience, problem after problem doh!!!!!
I rather envy the large space you have available to dedicate to this layout. That is awesome. And I'm not sure why you entitled "how not to..." as this looks really nice to me. Really nice!
Layout looks great to me... but what do I know. I appreciate the time, effort and expense that went into constructing this masterpiece. Great job. Can’t wait to see it landscaped.❤
Thank you. I can't attach the plan here (so I believe), but if you search facebook Brima, a German company that makes layouts for customers all over the world and you also search anlaga910 you should be able to see the plan
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This is a great start. I would love to see more as you go along. As well as changes you make to address your concerns. We are building and rebuilding ourselves. Great videos!
Now that was an incredible and very intricate layout and I saw nothing wrong with it, actually I really wish that I had my own house with a large dry basement and the money in which to build something simple as this. I'd like to see what it looks like after all of the scenery has been added.
Thank you. Only reason I can afford the layout was the years of collecting and finally being able to retire at a rate that I could continue with my hobby👍👍👍
If I had your layout, I'd be the happiest man on the planet! What I want to know is how you managed to get the flex tracks so darn straight?!!! 😕🤔 I'm really impressed, despite the perceived errors you didn't mention. Happy model railroading!!! 🚂
Thank you. Hate to tell you this, but there is no flex track😃😃 The track is Märkiln C track and it is sectional. Please read my latest comment on the points I should have followed
@@mmrcsa Ohhhh! I just went back to look and I see that! I noticed there was something in the middle of the track but I couldn't tell what it might be. Then I look back as I have it paused at the end and I can see the studs. Very interesting. I DID notice one time where the train went through a switch thrown the other way. Thanks!
Thank you for the ride, it was entirely enjoyable! In fact, it is sofa king cool, I've never seen one like it. Must be miles of track, and half a lumber yard, and it is very much bitchin'! 😁😁
love it - wish I had even a quarter of the space! As for imperfections, I am at a loss to quote any - the most important thing is that the trains run without derailing, and that is the situation here! On the basis of what I see here I have subscribed.
Thank you and thank you for subscribing. The majority of the posts are about our club, locos we run and layouts we build, and build, and build and build (I think you get the picture😄) and from time to time I post about the layouts I have tried to build or am in the process of trying to build, so videos will not be on a regular basis
Rails with all those dots seems Marklin. Cheers 🫂 I too have some from the year dot. Great job, going to set automatic signal system? Then looked into your comments and yeap speed could be a bit slower. Will be eager to watch futher videos as the scenery comes along. Have enjoyed your ride Last, haven't looked into the goods shunting area. Greetings from 🇦🇷 Argentina 🇦🇷🧉😁👀
Thank you. Yup, Rework is required to get a goods yard. No automatic signals, will have to do it like in the old days, hope you set the right signal and then wait for a crash🤣😂🤣
I dont see ANYTHING to complain about. I'd be proud of it had I built it or even help build it. Town settings are nice for model railroads regardless of gauge but there are layouts like yours that are very nice.
Nice work but there sure is a lot of track hidden underneath other bench work and trackage. Would have to hate trying to fix any issues or try to rerail a train that’s gone off the rails. However the track work looks pretty solid. Good luck with the rest of the project.
Fun ride… however, if we’re to look for imperfections… it’s rather late in the game to fix most of them but here I go. First, the most difficult fix is layout-wide and that’s foundation. If there’s any humidity or if your scenery is water based (plaster, Sculpt-a-mold, paper machete) all that unsupported plywood will eventually warp giving you fits ten years from now. Second I’d the sudden entry into curves, it’s also widespread but fixable. Third, is my own humble opinion…too much track and very little running in open spaces. You’ve managed to fit lots of scale miles into one room and it is commendable as to how long you keep a train running before returning to the starting point. My own style is to have some miles in between. As for operating through closed turnouts, no black magic if you run heavy cars and spring loaded points. However you choose to build your home layout, or anyone else… at the end of the day it’s your railroad. My opinions are just those of a stranger who has not put the effort into this particular layout. My advice is to protect that plywood from moisture and possibly back it with some oak strips where possible. Ease into the curves… wherever the camera saw a sudden move rework the curve into a more gradual departure from tangent. Once it’s built rows of trees or buildings can go a long way to setting up visual separation of scenes. There’s two cents worth… or not! Thanks, Steve
Many thanks. Agree on the points and match the list of points I made in my latest comments. There will be a rework, even though it was a 'F Bomb' build🤣😂🤣😂I did enjoy it and I was pleasantly surprised how much my club mates liked it.
Looks great, smooth running for now but lots of switches on main line. Can't wait for the scenery build. But i think you will have lots of access issues that will manifest when you build scenery; which is why i have kept my bench work mostly shallow.
There are a lot of things to do, modify and strengthen, but with time and patience they can be done. Easements need to be used at all places where straight track enters curves. That can and should be done. To me there is one big situation to be dealt with first. About 75% of the track is "under ground". A basic of building layouts is that buried or inaccessible track should be completely avoided, or, at least, minimized. Hard to reach track is where derailments will most likely occur. "Murphy's Law". Thanks for sharing and good luck! It is a great thing that you have started. Keep at it!
I noticed a ton of turnouts hidden in what I assume are tunnels or in hard to access places. Still, you flew the train through all the switches, and around all those curves with a derailment... unless that was take number 40 or so. 😊
Thank you. The original design was copied from a company called Brima. All that was shown was visible track, you had to figure out what happened after the tunnels. also I had to convert the design to the track I use, Märklin C track. But I totally agree
I don't think there will be any mistakes as long as you have a lot of experienced and eager hands for building out the scenery, because that will take a ton of effort given the size of this layout. It sounds like you do have that with your MRR club.
It is a lot of work you have done and it runs nicely. The rest of your life to do the scenery and this layouts are never done I am told, your good for a long time
Luckily with Märklin C track (three rail stud system AC) the only cleaning you need is to run trains regularly. And the parallel lines are called Schattenbanhof - shadow stations.
@@bncsystemsshortline As stated by some others, lack of a yard, but my biggest problem is that I always thing big is best, how much can I fit in the room without taking into account how I'm going to get to parts when problems occur. I see something and I go for it, not doing a proper planning stage and at my age I should have learnt by now
Nothing wrong with starting out at 75. I am nearly 80 and I restarted my interest when I was 55. As any affectionado will tell you, your layout is not finished, it is merely a works in progress Well done.
What a fantastic layout, First of all how long did it take you to plan and then how long did it take to build, and the cost must have been out of this world. Well done for your efforts, you should b every proud of yourself
Thank you. Planning, I cheated, I scoured the internet for a design that might fit into the area I had, and I came across a website for a company called Brima, who design and build layouts for customers all over the world. There was one design they posted on their fb page, that I had to flip, so it would fit.....just😄, and convert it to Märklin C track, so the time span for that was about a month. Actual construction was done in two parts, first the base (very bare) and the two shadow stations, that took about two months, and then I really put an effort in last September to get the layout into operation by the start of December for our club Xmas show, so that was three months. The cost? I have been accumulating track for the last ten years and the timber was from previous failed layouts.
Not sure why this is not how to build a layout? Sure it's a bit of a spaghetti bowl track plan and yes, the train was going quite fast but everyone should build the kind of layout they want to build. One that they will enjoy building and enjoy running. Good luck with the rest of your build. I can see a lot of fun potential. Not everyone wants a point to point, switching layout that requires 10 people to run it. 🙂
Incredible! I'm totally impressed, Wishing I had a quarter of the space you have, how big is that room your layout is in? Your benchwork is great, hope when you add your scenery you can add some support to those long "underground" segments. It runs flawlessly now but the additional weight of your scenery might cause that to change. In previous answers, you stated that some or all of this is on wheels, how does that work, do you have to move some sections to gain access portions of the layout? How do you maintain alignment when the you move sections? Please post more videos as work progresses. Thank you!
Thank you. Wow a lot of questions. First wheels, yes, all the legs have wheels and yes I can move it (just) to get to the hard areas, and when I move the layout I manage to move the lot (again just), alignment what alignment🤣😂🤣😂. As far as scenery, that is still in the maybe yes, maybe no state. It'll take a while before the decision is made as I put in a huge effort to get it done by 8 December (club meeting) and now I'm just trying to enjoy it (and grumble about the parts that I did wrong😃😃😊)
I have tried to create super elevation in the helix by making the outside edge about 2 to 3 mm higher than the inside edge. In some places it has worked, in others not so well.
No derailments, so I call that a major WIN! Scenery can hide whatever imperfections you perceive. I think you did a great job.
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The amount of work is astounding! A true labor of love. Hats off to you Sir.
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I'm 75 and have been thinking about expanding my home layout, which takes up about half my basement, and maybe buying one or two of great looking remote-controlled engines that are available. But then I was also thinking, "I'm 75, maybe I ought to start thinking about scaling back and selling off some of the stuff I have." You've inspired me.
Thank you. Like they use to say in 70s 'keep on truckin' 😂😂, all my trains will end up with my four grandsons and they can do what ever they wish with them
This is absolutely the finest layout I've ever seen. The only mistake is thinking that there are mistakes! I beautiful job, well done! I'm looking forward to more video's. HG
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What a wonderful accomplishment. No derailments, smooth operation through the switches and what appears to be a massive, intricate and interesting track plan. Any and all issues can be remedied over time. Most observers marvel at the entire picture and don't notice things that you are aware of. Great job!
I started my first large permanent layout five years ago at 78 years old, and am so happy I did. Still adding details.
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I wish I had all that space for my layout. As long as you can get to all areas of the layout,I don’t see anything wrong. Love to see the progress. Good luck.
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I should have such an awful layout.
What’s the lesson here? Hard work, imagination, hard work, vision, hard work, determination-did I mention hard work and watching role models build their dream is a lesson that perhaps one day I will build my dream.
Thanks for sharing and giving us something to shoot for.
thank you and good luck
What beautifully straight sections of track, perfectly operating points and curves. Quite a journey to be enjoyed.
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Epic ride! Best layout I have seen all year on the interwebs. Looking forward to watch this one come to life. Amazing work!!!
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I truly would like to write an original comment, but the positive message I wish to convey has already been so well expressed by others. This is incredible! Something tells me you are visualizing the scenery, buildings, etc. as you operate your trains on the layout as it is now. Something also tells me your layout will be as exquisite as you envision!
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That was a fun ride!
But what did it teach me about how not to build a layout??
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@@davidcurtis5398 See my comment above
This is a labour of love and I do not see anything wrong. I do love the set up of the sidings!!
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Thank you everyone for your comments, I plan to answer all questions and try to give a more detailed explanation of the title😅😅 I have been on the clock to get the man cave and layout ready for 8th December, for our Chrissy show and only just now realised how many of you have commented. By Monday everything will be back to normal (I hope) and I'll begin explanations. Many thanks👍👍👍👍👍
This is a very well planned, well designed and nice layout. It doesn't matter what age you are. Build what you want.
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God what an impressive layout. Everything after that track laying is just a formality. I hope to one day have the time, space, energy, motivation, and knowledge to create something even nearly as impressive as this. I wish you dry rails and smooth running.
Thank you, but please read the points in my latest comments, things I should have done to make the journey more pleasant
I'm 74, don't be sad if you think you won't be able to finish what you started; you have done more than most; you have made a great whimsical railroad. You should do no more, just fine tune what you have made. I Love seeing all the construction marks on the wood. Do Not paint. The train drivers view is great; very steady do to your excellent shaping of the 'rail bed.' I see all thread is your best friend. Greg
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It's incredible! The amount of track is astonishing. Amazing.
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That is an amazing start to a never ending project. Well done. Keep us posted along your journey.
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That was really nice to watch, you put some seriously hard work into that construction and I hope you enjoy doing the aesthetics! Great work
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I’m 78 and in the process of building my 9th different layout. Each one was either smaller or larger than the previous one. I will never have the money tied up in my layouts as you have in this one. Trains have been a part of my life since day one.
This layout is something I've always wanted to do and being retired it has allowed me to do it (as well as being able to afford it financially)
I have amended the title (slightly) and that leads me the points I should have seriously considered before starting the construction of the layout.
1. Consider your age
2. Big is not better!!!
3. Plan the layout in what you want
4. Before starting, create a plan and decide how the construction phase will develop.
5. Legs? Permanent? Or wheeled? Height? Brace after form work completed.
6. Will you use threaded rods or ribs, or both. Decide where they go and how they fit.
7. If possible, print out the design 1:1 that can be laid on the form work.
8. Speaking of the form work, pick the right type of construction, size of timber, and what the layout will support.
9. Get your head totally around the levels of the layout, which is 00, the form work or the sheet. (had lot’s of problems with that in making a decision and sticking to it.
10. If you feel you will have problems with helixes, research all details on different types of constructions.
11 And the golden rule, measure twice, cut once.
There were some more rules, but having senior moments, I can’t think of them.
These are all the points I should have taken into consideration before I began, and the main one should have been planning the order of construction. That’s why I titled it How not to build a layout, and I definitely did not want the title to be click bait.
I will now try to answer all your comments as best as I can.
OO Scale? Aussie or a Brit in Florida mate? Hahahahaa... Out of general interest, how did you start, trainspotting?
Measure twice, cut once? That can't be right. I usually measure thrice or even 4 times and have to cut n + 1.😅
@@SSandA2 HO scale Aussie from Adelaide and if you mean model railroading, getting my Märklin train set for Christmas in 1957 (still have) in Germany and collecting ever since.
@@mmrcsa Thanks for replying. We have our barbeque in July. It's an upside down World. I won't ask about which way the water flushes in your toilet - but now I'm curious how an Aussie gets to Germany. Sounds like an overseas posting.
@@SSandA2 I was born in a country that doesn't exist anymore, moved to Germany in '56 and came to Australia in '59 with my Märklin train set well packed in all our gear we were taking with us
That looks like a ton of work and planning went into that layout. I'd love to have enough room in build something even half the size of your layout. The fact the locomotive ran smooth with no power hiccups and there wasn't a single derailment means it's well planned, well built, and well maintained. Good job on functionality. Now just start piecing in the scenery and you'll be set.
Thank you, but in actual fact I should have planned more and not been so greedy in trying to fill the whole area, at my age there are certain things that you can't do like you used😂😂. The system is Märklin three rail and their double slips are known to be temperamental, so I feel I was lucky. And again many thanks on your praise.
I hope you have no Atlas diamonds to work and yard to classify. Thanks for the entertrainment! And good luck!!
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I wish you no troubles with dirty track. Benchwork and track integrity look impressive. Your double-slips worked flawlessly.
Thank you. Bench work could have been better, but at the moment it is holding👍 I am totally surprised how well they work, knowing how temperamental the Märklin double slips can be
Märklin tracks have absolutely no issue with dirt on the track. I had even slightly rusty M-tracks and could run my 40yr old trains on them no problem. C-tracks are even better in this regard.
All I saw was a beautifully executed design that runs smoothly and is very visually interesting. As with all the artistic people I know, all you can see in your own work is the imperfections. Know that no one is perfect but this layout is magnificent! Enjoy it and know that it's head and shoulders above the overwhelming majority of layouts I've seen. Congratulations!
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Looks very good to me, I'd be proud of that. Happy Christmas from New Zealand.
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"How to build a layout" more like it, WOW, I am just amazed at what you have achieved. Fantastic, thank you and it gives me huge inspiration.
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Not that I know anything at all about model train layouts except that I enjoy watching them and wish I had one, but I'm not sure what you are talking about because it looks pretty darn awesome to me. Thanks for the ride.
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I Love It! Miles of track swooping between multiple levels. Terrific! Now, about the landscaping....
Thank you. Yes, the scenery?
OMG, what’s an amazing setup, to have so much space for the design, we would be more than happy to have a quarter of that
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I’d say this is a win.
I did enjoy the little sun-kink in there.
Thank you, id certainly ended up being a win, as the club members were pleasantly surprised that it worked as well as it did.
Magnificent, and some of those intersections are works of art.
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Amazing, all track tested and working so it's going to be fun. However,... I would fear some of those longer stretches of unsupported plywood are going to sag a bit in the future. Knowing it's probably not convenient to add more supports some narrow stringers could be added under the longer sections. Think "I-Beams" but just strips of 1/2 ply 1 1/2 to 2 inches wide and it will never develop a sway.
Thank you, and you are totally correct. Now that I know what I should have know, some rework will occur
@@mmrcsa I was not sure about expressing my observation, but the more I thought about it I'd hate to see that nice of trackwork have problems down the road. Like most all things in life a good foundation is needed for success. Enjoy, that layout is going to be an amazing amount of fun,..
I would say that you are doing a brilliant job at your age.. never give up because you can only enjoy this life once?? & what better way is to be doing that than living though your childhood all over again with ideas you have now but also wish you had in your younger days.. Great thing you are doing & lets see more in the near future.
Thank you, and I'll keep choofing along until I run out of coal😆🤣😂
For the most part, the track is laid out very well and love the way the locomotive flies through the switches with ease! My only tiny thing that would bother me, is some sudden angular deviations while the trains is moving, ie: 1:11 & 2:31 and I'm sure the locomotive clipped those wires at 3:08. 😎👍
Thank you. You're correct, rework required.
And I was feeling pretty proud of myself for making a hanging platform to run three connected loops. To me, a very much novice modeller, this is a spectacular layout. I'd love to have a layout this long and big to run some of my locomotives on.
Thank you. On a slow run it takes 7 minutes and if you include the branch lines it takes 11 minutes.
@@mmrcsa that is so much nicer than the entire 10 seconds it takes for my models to run around the loop
Hell of a layout. What I would have loved to run 40 yrs ago. Super job!!!
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Thanks for the ride! The amount of hidden train yards hints to future operations with a lot of trains! Have fun with it and keep sending updates, please. Very nice. Have you thought about adding roads that can be used with those remote controlled cars/trucks or Faller/Magnorail tracked cars? I want to do that to have my grandchildren involved early...
Thank you. The only thought at the moment is to have it running as trouble free as possible, as Murphy struck in the past couple of days, on my own, no probs, have a viewing audience, problem after problem doh!!!!!
I like it! Definately not boring! Wish I had the room. Access to some of the track might get interesting
Thank you, it's on wheels, but bloody heavy and a real job to move.......might have to do some rework.
Also, my apologise, it was never meant to be 'click bait'. If that's they way you thought it was , sorry.
Beautiful layout 😊 what an awesome ride. It will look fantastic with the scenery added. Not to mention how much work it has taken to build
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I rather envy the large space you have available to dedicate to this layout. That is awesome. And I'm not sure why you entitled "how not to..." as this looks really nice to me. Really nice!
How not to construct. I did everything the wrong way during the construction stage with even re-enforcing the legs as a last stage....dohhh!!!😂😂
Layout looks great to me... but what do I know. I appreciate the time, effort and expense that went into constructing this masterpiece. Great job. Can’t wait to see it landscaped.❤
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WOW! That was a fun ride, nicely done! 🚂 Thanks for sharing! 😃
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I think it is awesome.. I would love to see the layout plan...
Thank you. I can't attach the plan here (so I believe), but if you search facebook Brima, a German company that makes layouts for customers all over the world and you also search anlaga910 you should be able to see the plan
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don't see what was wrong with it.
Please read my latest comments of the points I should have followed
Aside from Houston-grade freeway *AWESOMENESS* on rails, I don't see anything that I call wrong.
Totally agree on the freeway statement, reworks are in order and thank you.
This is a great start. I would love to see more as you go along. As well as changes you make to address your concerns. We are building and rebuilding ourselves. Great videos!
And just today those darn double slips. They just randomly vibrate and change direction.
Thank you, will try to keep up to date
Now that was an incredible and very intricate layout and I saw nothing wrong with it, actually I really wish that I had my own house with a large dry basement and the money in which to build something simple as this. I'd like to see what it looks like after all of the scenery has been added.
Thank you. Only reason I can afford the layout was the years of collecting and finally being able to retire at a rate that I could continue with my hobby👍👍👍
If I had your layout, I'd be the happiest man on the planet! What I want to know is how you managed to get the flex tracks so darn straight?!!! 😕🤔 I'm really impressed, despite the perceived errors you didn't mention. Happy model railroading!!! 🚂
Thank you. Hate to tell you this, but there is no flex track😃😃 The track is Märkiln C track and it is sectional. Please read my latest comment on the points I should have followed
Fine job. You should be proud. I'm not sure if I could do the job you did. I'll be looking for updates.
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Great job buddy.....smashing layout.🚆🚅👍👍👍
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How is your loco able to go thru switches thrown the other way without derailing or causing a short? What kinda black magic is this?
Think its Marklin track, which is kinda like O gauge three rail, you can do reverse loops with no problem. I've never used Marklin stuff though.
Märklin points are spring loaded, and the Märklin system is a three rail AC, there is no third rail, just studs.
@@mmrcsa Ohhhh! I just went back to look and I see that! I noticed there was something in the middle of the track but I couldn't tell what it might be. Then I look back as I have it paused at the end and I can see the studs. Very interesting. I DID notice one time where the train went through a switch thrown the other way. Thanks!
This is awesome!! Love it! Hope you keep posting videos as you work on it.
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speed like a lionel set. interesting turnout layouts in a couple spots.
but yes, i too wish i had that much room to work with.
Thank you. The speed is what our club calls a 'Scalextric Run'😂😂
Wow, what a layout! Fantastic yard with switches galore.
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Great layout and use of fiddle yard at a the lower level. Look forward to the next video up date
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Thank you for the ride, it was entirely enjoyable!
In fact, it is sofa king cool, I've never seen one like it. Must be miles of track, and half a lumber yard, and it is very much bitchin'! 😁😁
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love it - wish I had even a quarter of the space! As for imperfections, I am at a loss to quote any - the most important thing is that the trains run without derailing, and that is the situation here!
On the basis of what I see here I have subscribed.
Thank you and thank you for subscribing. The majority of the posts are about our club, locos we run and layouts we build, and build, and build and build (I think you get the picture😄) and from time to time I post about the layouts I have tried to build or am in the process of trying to build, so videos will not be on a regular basis
Rails with all those dots seems Marklin. Cheers 🫂 I too have some from the year dot.
Great job, going to set automatic signal system?
Then looked into your comments and yeap speed could be a bit slower.
Will be eager to watch futher videos as the scenery comes along.
Have enjoyed your ride
Last, haven't looked into the goods shunting area.
Greetings from 🇦🇷 Argentina
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Thank you. Yup, Rework is required to get a goods yard. No automatic signals, will have to do it like in the old days, hope you set the right signal and then wait for a crash🤣😂🤣
I dont see ANYTHING to complain about. I'd be proud of it had I built it or even help build it. Town settings are nice for model railroads regardless of gauge but there are layouts like yours that are very nice.
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Nice work but there sure is a lot of track hidden underneath other bench work and trackage. Would have to hate trying to fix any issues or try to rerail a train that’s gone off the rails. However the track work looks pretty solid. Good luck with the rest of the project.
Thank you. That's the price you pay for having shadow stations
Fun ride… however, if we’re to look for imperfections… it’s rather late in the game to fix most of them but here I go.
First, the most difficult fix is layout-wide and that’s foundation. If there’s any humidity or if your scenery is water based (plaster, Sculpt-a-mold, paper machete) all that unsupported plywood will eventually warp giving you fits ten years from now.
Second I’d the sudden entry into curves, it’s also widespread but fixable. Third, is my own humble opinion…too much track and very little running in open spaces. You’ve managed to fit lots of scale miles into one room and it is commendable as to how long you keep a train running before returning to the starting point. My own style is to have some miles in between.
As for operating through closed turnouts, no black magic if you run heavy cars and spring loaded points. However you choose to build your home layout, or anyone else… at the end of the day it’s your railroad.
My opinions are just those of a stranger who has not put the effort into this particular layout. My advice is to protect that plywood from moisture and possibly back it with some oak strips where possible. Ease into the curves… wherever the camera saw a sudden move rework the curve into a more gradual departure from tangent. Once it’s built rows of trees or buildings can go a long way to setting up visual separation of scenes.
There’s two cents worth… or not!
Thanks,
Steve
Many thanks. Agree on the points and match the list of points I made in my latest comments. There will be a rework, even though it was a 'F Bomb' build🤣😂🤣😂I did enjoy it and I was pleasantly surprised how much my club mates liked it.
Looks great, smooth running for now but lots of switches on main line. Can't wait for the scenery build. But i think you will have lots of access issues that will manifest when you build scenery; which is why i have kept my bench work mostly shallow.
Thank you and you have very good points that's why there is rework in the future
There are a lot of things to do, modify and strengthen, but with time and patience they can be done. Easements need to be used at all places where straight track enters curves. That can and should be done.
To me there is one big situation to be dealt with first. About 75% of the track is "under ground". A basic of building layouts is that buried or inaccessible track should be completely avoided, or, at least, minimized. Hard to reach track is where derailments will most likely occur. "Murphy's Law".
Thanks for sharing and good luck! It is a great thing that you have started. Keep at it!
I noticed a ton of turnouts hidden in what I assume are tunnels or in hard to access places. Still, you flew the train through all the switches, and around all those curves with a derailment... unless that was take number 40 or so. 😊
Thank you. The original design was copied from a company called Brima. All that was shown was visible track, you had to figure out what happened after the tunnels. also I had to convert the design to the track I use, Märklin C track. But I totally agree
Well... if you like spaghetti - why not !
There is some serious amount of run time on that layout. If the scenary is as impressive as the design so far it will be phenomenal.
Thank you. If I do a very slow run, doing the two branch lines and the mainline it can take up to 17 minutes
as long as you are enjoying it , it's all good
FANTASTIC LAYOUT YOU SHOUKD BE WORKING FOR A THEME PARK, DISNEY, GREAT ADVENTURE!!!!!!!!!❤ BEAUTIFUL JOB
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look forward to this build, really great job, love the layout.Merry Christmas!
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I don't see any problems! It is your railroad, you build it how you wish. It looks like it runs pretty good to me! Great Job!
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I don't think there will be any mistakes as long as you have a lot of experienced and eager hands for building out the scenery, because that will take a ton of effort given the size of this layout. It sounds like you do have that with your MRR club.
Something to do in my old age🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I am not sure what your overall vision for this layout is but what i saw looks good and well built.
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Simply put, It is fantastic! I've had my layout for years and I didn't spot anything wrong!
Thank you. It was the method of construction that was incorrect and adding to my back pain😀
Bloody good job! Most excellent.....
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It is a lot of work you have done and it runs nicely. The rest of your life to do the scenery and this layouts are never done I am told, your good for a long time
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One crazy layout, only one flaw I saw, or rather heard, was with the low hanging wiring that sounded like it hit the train at 3:08
Something to be fixed
Well, your construction may have been wrong, but the results seem to have worked out okay! Thanks for sharing!
Only problem I see is that section with several parallel lines that are hidden under a large section of plywood. Difficult to clean or access.
Luckily with Märklin C track (three rail stud system AC) the only cleaning you need is to run trains regularly. And the parallel lines are called Schattenbanhof - shadow stations.
Loved the two staging areas on top of another. Solid stuff.
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Haha the best model railroad click bait ever!!!!! Got me to sub! Please make Layout Update videos! Awesome Layout!
Didn't mean for it to be click bait, but thanks and will try
Yea I know! I really like your layout! What don't you like about the layout? @mmrcsa
@@bncsystemsshortline As stated by some others, lack of a yard, but my biggest problem is that I always thing big is best, how much can I fit in the room without taking into account how I'm going to get to parts when problems occur. I see something and I go for it, not doing a proper planning stage and at my age I should have learnt by now
Well built layout. I like it. The video is so cool
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I think its a damn good job! I'm jealous!
Beautiful layout and with C tracks :-) Only fault I can se Is with to minor bends left right og wise versa. But it is all with C traks. Amazing. 🙂
Thank you. Fault fixed👍
Easements on the curves would eliminate the jerkiness ..
Thank you, another problem I should have thought of
Impressive. Very impressive. Have fun with the scenery.
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Nothing wrong with starting out at 75. I am nearly 80 and I restarted my interest when I was 55. As any affectionado will tell you, your layout is not finished, it is merely a works in progress
Well done.
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thank goodness I'm only 74. Just made it under the wire to build my new 35x20 layout
Go for it
What a fantastic layout, First of all how long did it take you to plan and then how long did it take to build, and the cost must have been out of this world. Well done for your efforts, you should b every proud of yourself
Thank you. Planning, I cheated, I scoured the internet for a design that might fit into the area I had, and I came across a website for a company called Brima, who design and build layouts for customers all over the world. There was one design they posted on their fb page, that I had to flip, so it would fit.....just😄, and convert it to Märklin C track, so the time span for that was about a month. Actual construction was done in two parts, first the base (very bare) and the two shadow stations, that took about two months, and then I really put an effort in last September to get the layout into operation by the start of December for our club Xmas show, so that was three months. The cost? I have been accumulating track for the last ten years and the timber was from previous failed layouts.
Impressive!! You're very lucky to have such a wonderful space
Thank you., Took a lot of years to finally achieve that space
@@mmrcsa I know the feeling. I have a half finished workshop in the garden, never enough money to finish it off
That layout is a work of art. 👏👏
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Not sure why this is not how to build a layout? Sure it's a bit of a spaghetti bowl track plan and yes, the train was going quite fast but everyone should build the kind of layout they want to build. One that they will enjoy building and enjoy running. Good luck with the rest of your build. I can see a lot of fun potential. Not everyone wants a point to point, switching layout that requires 10 people to run it. 🙂
😄😆😂Thank you, you have made real valid points
Congratulations, great job 👌
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Incredible! I'm totally impressed, Wishing I had a quarter of the space you have, how big is that room your layout is in? Your benchwork is great, hope when you add your scenery you can add some support to those long "underground" segments. It runs flawlessly now but the additional weight of your scenery might cause that to change. In previous answers, you stated that some or all of this is on wheels, how does that work, do you have to move some sections to gain access portions of the layout? How do you maintain alignment when the you move sections? Please post more videos as work progresses. Thank you!
Thank you. Wow a lot of questions. First wheels, yes, all the legs have wheels and yes I can move it (just) to get to the hard areas, and when I move the layout I manage to move the lot (again just), alignment what alignment🤣😂🤣😂. As far as scenery, that is still in the maybe yes, maybe no state. It'll take a while before the decision is made as I put in a huge effort to get it done by 8 December (club meeting) and now I'm just trying to enjoy it (and grumble about the parts that I did wrong😃😃😊)
Sorry I forgot about the first question. The room is 6m by 5m and the layout is 5m by 3.8m.
looks good to me thanks for sharing ..😊😊👍👍
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Is the appearance of reverse super elevation on curves an optical illusion ? With the other flawless trackwork it seems odd
I have tried to create super elevation in the helix by making the outside edge about 2 to 3 mm higher than the inside edge. In some places it has worked, in others not so well.
Nice ride. The only two problems that stand out to me are you are there and I am here, in the States. Also, I'm running 'N' gauge.
Merry Christmas!
Thanks and a ho ho ho to you☃⛄
I love it! Great work!
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Looks awfully fine to me. Great job. Thanks.
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Ah, Warp Speed.
Would love to see this when you start scenicing
If you mean the speed of the loco taking the video, our club calls that a Scalextric run🤣🤣