These are both tremendous games, I think,most are going to favor Turtles in Time and rightly so its more like the arcade version and is the namesake. But Hyperstone Heist is it's own experience and SEGA diehards that were Turtles fans hold it closer to their hearts. The more more difficult debate I think would be between the opposing tournament fighter games. Those are so completely different and I can't decide which I like better.
I just got done playing Hyperstone Heist. I was one stage away from shredding the Shredder. Great game that stands its own against Turtles in Time, one of my all-time favorite SNES games.
First off, I love the video!!!! Actually just found your profile and I love your Videos!!! Okay, now, back in the day I had a Genesis and my neighbor had and SNES. Back in the day, this was the best combo. We spend so much time at each others 2 player machine with this game. Hyperstone Heist at first seemed worse, but in time it seemed better to both me and my neighbor. The Genesis version just seemed to be smoother and faster. It also seemed the turtles had different performance (speed, attack, etc.) in Hyperstone Heist. Too me Genesis wins in overall playability, SNES wins in presentation with exclusion to the frames and animation being a bit better on the Genesis.
It was a hard game especially for ....7 year olds. Was it 1991 it came out? Anyway maybe 8 years old but difficult. I see James and Mike still have a hard time
Both games are awesome and among my top 10 favorites for both systems. I have a lot of nostalgia for the Hyperstone Heist as I rented that one a lot from Blockbuster back in the day and eventually bought it and then finally beat it, but I have to give a slight edge to Turtles in Time as it feels a little bit balanced as far as gameplay and controls go and is slightly more addicting, even though the Slash turtle always gives me trouble.
@@dannym6207 Exactly, who cares about graphics. Both games are awesome but I always wondered why konami fucked genesis owners over. Why didn't we get Turtles in Time??? The one thing that kicked ass about hyperstone was the Tatsu fight.
@YTCensorsMe Poop Yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense. I'm just wondering why Konami decided to "cheat" the genesis owners like this. I mean, an entire stage is like dedicated to a bunch of boss fights we have already fought. It was such a waste of time. So much potential wasted.
That's a very fare shack down of both games and I really liked you balanced perspective about what or breaks each one if these two games as they are compared to each other, ty for the interesting review and keep up the good work.
AS somebody who grew up with a Genesis and not a SNES, as someone who loved the Turtles and owned Hyperstone Heist as a kid, Turtles in Time is way better. Hell, I'd even say that the SNES Turtles in Time is better than the arcade because of the additional and expanded content, although with the arcade obviously having better graphics, sound, and 4 player capabilities, it's close.
@@StaticTV80 The Genesis game plays fine, it's just a slog. There's only 4 levels and they are very long levels, and the last level is just a boss rush. The best and only unique thing in the game is they have a Tatsu boss fight, I don't think he's in any other game, and it's nice to see something from the movies.
I feel that Turtles in Time's 6th stage boss, Slash, represents too much of a difficulty spike. I like Turtles in Time equally as Hyper Stone Heist, but I just wanted to note that. I also REALLY appreciate the dash button. I dunno how useful it was for you since the gens has a garbage tier controller, but using a modern controller on an emulator, it's awesome.
Both are really great games. I prefer the Genesis version, as a owner of both systems, I always hated the sample sound of the Snes. Turtles in time, had the mode 7, really that's where the Snes, excelled at.
I love both of these, great to run thru with a buddy over lunchtime at work. I don't mind the SNES vs Genesis differences, they both have their charm and neither are the arcade game :P
Well, I have owned Turtles in Time for a long time and love it. I just got Hyperstone Heist, and I also enjoy it. When it comes to music, graphics, and gameplay I give Turtles in Time 1st prize, but Hyperstone Heist is a close second. Both great games, and every gamer should have both. Long live the SNES and Genesis!
For TMNT i will remember that in Arcade i played it as a kid in 1994 and we got to the end and we did not have coins but was my birthday so the owner gave it an acceptation and pass some few to finished it along with my brother was a wonderful tag team and again we did it on the Sega Genesis in 97.
Just discovered Hyperstone Crisis & Turtles in time. Great games. I guess I grew out of the turtles just before they came out... So when I was a kid I focused on other games. Who new I missed such great games? Playing them now and really enjoying them... Takes me back.
Forced to run with button push ruins the gamplay for me on the genesis. 2 x forward feels so much natural and works way better, especially for people that grow up with SNK 2D Fighters that supported Dash & Run. The Buttons on the Genesis Pad got to much distance, there is no good solution. Even when you change it like: A Jumps, B Dash, C Attack...........now the gap is small, but theres a long distance between Jump and Attack. All this slow down fast players like me.
REALSlutHunter try playing it on an emulator. I’ve played Hyperstone Heist on a genesis emulator with a SNES controller and you’ll love button dash. I found turtles in time to be a fun game but the combat wasn’t as crisp as HH. I can pull off any move and have total control of my mobility in HH whereas in TIT I found myself inadvertently running and getting out of position far too often thanks to the auto dash when holding the dpad.
As a Genesis owner I have to grudgingly admit the SNES version is superior in almost every way. I prefer the faster gameplay on the Genesis, but the level variety, sound, and ability to throw characters at the screen all make Turtles in Time the 16-bit version to own.
+Cannot be Tamed the control scheme on Genesis is not as good either. It only caters to the 3 button controller and not the 6-button. Did you know that beating Turtles in Time on the Hardest difficulty gets u the ending from the Turtles in Time Arcade game? Not really a huge bonus but worth it
hunter371 its a challenge as on the hardest difficulty, you start off with fewer lives and the AI is tougher. I learned of this after beating the Turtles in Time Arcade game recently. That"s why on the console versions if u beat it on default or lesser difficulty, Splinter will challenge u at the end to beat it on a harder difficulty
I absolutely love turtles in time and hyperstone heist. I love how they are similar yet have small differences. I think that the idea of one being better than the other is really down to opinion. Each game brings something to the table the other doesn’t have. ToT has better audio and mode 7, Sega has a exclusive level with an awesome song.
I remember playing turtles in time with my older brothers when I was like 3 oh good times and great review I'm glad I found your channel today definitely earned my sub.
I was mostly a Sega kid growing up, but I agree that Turtles in Time was the better game for all the reasons you pointed out. I was also a big fan of Konami during the 16-bit era, and find this comparison really fascinating. I'd be interested in seeing your thoughts comparing Contra III: The Alien Wars with Contra: Hard Corps (which I feel is the better game), and Super Castlevania IV vs. Castlevania: Bloodlines (which is actually my favorite Castlevania, largely due to the awesome and woefully underappreciated soundtrack).
Cool video, yeah Turtles in time is the superior game to Hyperstone Heist which feels like a bootleg Turtles in Time but it's not bad I suppose. Btw regarding the control element, actually in turtles in time there is a control option to have 3 buttons via the configuration options. You can have the special move as A so you have 3 buttons to use, Y for attack, B for jumping and A for youe special move. They give you a few different options.
Great review, Pam! I, too, have always liked Turtles in Time better of the two. I have started playing the arcade game more as well, and by and large, I actually prefer the SNES boss fights in many cases.
Nice video, and totally agree. I much prefer SNES Turtles. The soundtrack alone makes it better in my eyes. I always had an issue getting in to Sega as much as Nintendo, due to the music quality. But both are worth a play, especially on coop
Tucan Estudios It actually isn't short. It just feels shorter. While Hyperstone Heist has 5 levels, as opposed to 10 in Turtles In Time, the levels in HH are MUCH longer with 4 of the 5 levels consisting of 3 sections each. In reality both games takes just about the same time to beat.
hossain shahriar No it isn't. The SNES version of Turtles in time has less frames of animation and less detail on the characters. Hyperstone Heist definitely plays, looks, and moves smoother.
@Enan63 yea dude its generally agreed upon that Turtles in time while a better game does not play anywere near as smooth as hyperstone heist. Time lacks a burst run option that Heist has, this alone makes controlling your turtle way easier.
I remember as a kid, me and my friend Eian would literally use all our game tokens on the Turtles game. We'd be given a few dollars or whatever, and we'd run to the token change machine (remember those?) and we'd literally just play the one game. Even his mother just sort of commented about whether we were gonna play anything else in the arcade....nope. lol
+Cannot be Tamed Just revisited The Hyperstone Heist. Just wasn't feeling it. I enjoyed TMNT The Arcade game more even though its a more simple game. I think I just enjoy games 30 minutes at a time now. Hyper Stones first level took me almost 10 minutes to beat. Just enjoyed it more as a kid.
I never knew Hyperstone Heist existed until the TMNT Cowabunga Collection. Me the only difficult level to get pass was the Gauntlet where you had to defeat all enemies in prior levels.
Looking forward to Shredder's Revenge this year. Will be a nice throwback to this style of gameplay. The same developer already did a home run with Streets of Rage 4 last year.
I can agree that Turtles in Time was better than Hyperstone Heist, even though, I can say that HH was slightly more fun to play. The biggest advantage T.I.T. had over HH was that you can throw enemies off the screen. One fun fact: Hyperstone Heist had Master Tatsu from the first TMNT live action film. Turtles in Time on the other hand, had Tokka and Rahzar from Secret of the Ooze. Just subbed.
Just found your channel, and i'm already hooked! I'm supscribed and I'm going to go through all your other videos now :) And remember, the Mega Drive always needs more love ;)
Alien Storm and Splatterhouse 2 is always interesting to hear about. Especially Alien storm. :) Even if you don't think they'll review worthy you should sit down and play them for a couple of hours.
Cool video. I'm a huge TMNT fan and agree with you on most points here. Watch more of the cartoon though. :P Love how you patronize Hyperstone Heist at the end. I'll be playing that one more soon.
I recently received Hyperstone Heist for my Genesis today and played through it briefly on normal level. I immediately noticed it was more difficult than my Turtles In Time, even on the hardest setting, which I can breeze right through (hardest boss fight was with Slash, for me at least.). On Hyperstone Heist, I got destroyed by Tatsu's second fight (the one in the cave). I actually appreciate the difficulty! However, you're totally right about the controls. I've grown so used to double tapping to charge that having to actually press a button to do it, with the original Genesis control pad, was a bit tedious and like you, found myself doing it less than I would on the SNES version of the game. I'm planning to pick up an official 6 button controller to see if that helps. Most of my control issues come from the awkward button layout. The graphics and sounds are what you'd expect from any Genesis game. Sometimes they can be good and sometimes not so good. Regardless, I'm happy to have this game in my collection at a fraction of the going price on ebay.
+Nar Comic Underworld I've been playing more with the 6 button controller and I do find it much better. The A and C buttons are so far apart on the original one.
Yeah, no kidding. I had to adjust them in the options setting. I have charge set on A, attack on B and jump on C. Hopping from A to B+C is much easier but still requires very fast reflexes. By the way, I like your review channel. You're very calm and collected, which is a breath of fresh air. I can only take so much hyper active game reviews before I tune out. I'll be sure to sub. Take care.
R Moocher2 I've never actually seen the Japanese six button controller for the Genesis. Thanks for that tip. I'll definitely keep my eyes open for a set. I totally agree with you R Moocher2, the SNES control pad is quite possibly the best control pad I have ever experienced.
Hell ya nice to see a video made by people my age that can appreciate these amazing games! I love this video! Us kids that grew up in the 90’s (so born in the 80’s) need to band together haha.
I like the Genesis game better just because it is it's own game exclusive to the Genesis and wasn't an arcade port, and the gameplay is better and faster. Snes might look and sound a bit better but it came out well after the Genesis version, so they could easily improve in those areas and they really didn't shine much compared to the competition. The turtles themselves look better on the Genesis game though. Sega wins this one for me, although I do like both of them alot.
They've got their advantages. Turtles in Time lets you throw enemies at the screen, never seem to be able to do that in Hyper Stone Heist. This IS important to the gameplay, because slamming enemies back and forth is superior functionally, but offers less points (throwing enemies at the screen nets you 3 points in Turtles in Time). Points lead to lives, so there's an element of strategy in Turtles in Time not present in Hyper Stone Heist. Bosses have more personality to them gameplay wise in Turtles in Time, bosses like Shredder in the background, tricking Toka and Razar into attacking each other, ect. Hyperstone Heist has one BIG advantage though: Dash button.
I own both games, they make a great little 2 game marathon (or if you have MAME, you can play the 2 arcades on that to lengthen the marathon, or throw in TMNT 3 NES to add even more length). Both games are good in their own way, though I felt Konami copped out on the Genesis version by adding a boss rush of bosses you've already beaten (leave the boss rush to Gradius Konami, it fits there, and each boss is not a rehash of that games defeated bosses).
Love these games :) . In Turtle in Time you can do some moves while dashing . Some kind of front handspring with the A button I think, a slide on the back with arms and legs crossed I think ( called the snake ifI remember ) with the X button, and the shoulder hit with the Y button, and what's cool is that you can do some handspring and then trigger the snake or shoulder hit. You can also avoid hits while running all over the place in handspring move ( not 100 % sure of this one , or maybe not all hits ) :) . I don't know if it's the same for hyperstone heist.
Good review. Anything involving the turtles and beat em ups (I see you also reviewed Streets of Rage 2) is worth taking a look, and your video randomly popped up in my 'videos you should watch' thing. Only minor critique I would say is you should have mentioned that the Turtles could throw the Foot towards the screen in the SNES game but not the Genesis game. Anyways, subbed. Keep up the good work.
I played both games extensively as well, but I agree with you on "Turtles In Time" being better. I'd love to own arcade cabinets of both that and the original, someday.
Having played both games again recently with emus, I prefer the Hyperstone Heist. While less challenging and maybe shorter, the Hyperstone Heist felt more refined in gameplay, graphics aren't looked as washed out, and sound effect is way better. I find myself having more fun with Hyperstone Heist than Turtles in Time.
People stop comparing and competing hyper stone heist with turtles in time. It's just not fair. That's like trying to make Mary Kate and Ashley compete to who's better.
To be honest I liked them both equally. I had an SNES growing up, but didn't have Turtles in Time so I missed out on both games until much later in life so my only experience with it was at an arcade. Basically they're both solid games to play if you're playing games from one console or the other today. If I had to choose, it would be the SNES game. On two games that are so closely related like this where most things are on par between the two, sound is often the deciding factor for me. Rather than catering specifically to the Genesis sound chip (some Genesis games do sound better than their SNES counterparts), they ported it over and while the results were really good, the Genesis sound chip just wasn't made for it.
nice always cool to see a game vs game style review. snes had a ton of control options in the menu's aswell to change things up. both are good games, good replay value with the coop and the difficulty options, least on the snes. im not really sure about the gen version as ive never owned it.
A lot of people don’t know this but while the SNES had slightly better graphics than the Sega genesis the Sega was a faster system, which is why games like Sonic could have the characters zip around the stage super fast; meanwhile in Super Mario World it’s a slower game than even Super Mario 3 for the NES.
Turtles in Time was my very first SNES game! Interesting aside to this comparison -- usually, you expect arcade games to outshine their console adaptations, with their more powerful and better optimized hardware. And while the arcade version of Turtles in Time does look a little prettier and sound a little nicer, the SNES version is the better game by far! They made some real design improvements in the months between the two releases. It's also kinda interesting to see that Hyperstone Heist reverted to having the pizza monsters as the boss of the sewer level like the arcade game.
Both Tmnt Games Turtles In Time And Hyperstone Heist Are Both Awesome Games I Like Both Games I Played Them Both And They Are Good Games I Still Play Them Both
I also was a massive Turtles fan growing up, and you nailed this. I enjoyed Turtles in Time way more. I bought it, and only remember renting the Hyperstone game for a weekend. You mentioned how the sound was flatter on the Genesis. Everything I've read indicates the Genesis sound chip was inferior to the one in the Super NES, and only Sega really knew how to get the most out of it. But they were still both, and your guided tour down memory lane for me was highly enjoyed.
Some what right. Sega tried to make easier for Western Developers to use the FM Synthesizer especially one without programming exp . So they created a program called GEMS. Which offered some generic sound effects, sounds and music. The program had customization but what happened most times is they went the easy route. So a lot ( not all) that used this music editor sounded inferior. In the right hands the Genesis sound chip could and did produce excellent music and sound.
Nice to see some ninja turtles fans ! I remember playing turtles in time I think I actually beat it ..I didn't play hyperstone but the first one on Nes was a pain in the ass ...sad to say being 31 I still am a fan of the franchise
Hyperstone heist is superior in input response and general ease of combat. It does lack certain gameplay mechanics and is kind of a crammed game, BUT despite much shorter game length and mechanics I found it to be much more enjoyable. Only negative thing about hyper stone is the gaunlet. Also, the level leading up to the boss flight with shredders second hand man from the live action movies is my favorite from the whole series. The train level in turtles in time is probably my favorite from that version
Cool video idea. I agree: both are very fun, but I prefer Turtles In Time for pretty much the same reasons you discussed. The level and boss variety, plus the better music and sound effect quality, push the SNES game above the Genesis'. I still enjoy playing through both though with my sis once in a while :)
Constructive criticism here, but for review purposes I believe that capturing footage without using graphical filters would be a better option. It's hard to give an accurate review of the graphics when there is a filter changing how it looks by itself. Otherwise, I like the review. Glad I stumbled upon your channel.
You know, I looked at 2015 and thought "That wasn't too long ago..." Not quite realizing that it's 2017. Sorry if your newer stuff that I will be watching takes care of that.
I played the s**t out of Turtles in Time and loved every second of it. Mostly together with my friends. ohh good times. Wasn't even aware of the Genesis game, but it seems they are very much alike. So thanks for enlighten me AND bringning back so lovely memories.
These are both tremendous games, I think,most are going to favor Turtles in Time and rightly so its more like the arcade version and is the namesake. But Hyperstone Heist is it's own experience and SEGA diehards that were Turtles fans hold it closer to their hearts. The more more difficult debate I think would be between the opposing tournament fighter games. Those are so completely different and I can't decide which I like better.
I just got done playing Hyperstone Heist. I was one stage away from shredding the Shredder. Great game that stands its own against Turtles in Time, one of my all-time favorite SNES games.
First off, I love the video!!!! Actually just found your profile and I love your Videos!!! Okay, now, back in the day I had a Genesis and my neighbor had and SNES. Back in the day, this was the best combo. We spend so much time at each others 2 player machine with this game. Hyperstone Heist at first seemed worse, but in time it seemed better to both me and my neighbor. The Genesis version just seemed to be smoother and faster. It also seemed the turtles had different performance (speed, attack, etc.) in Hyperstone Heist. Too me Genesis wins in overall playability, SNES wins in presentation with exclusion to the frames and animation being a bit better on the Genesis.
The first Ninja Turtles NES game added soo much stress to my life when I was a kid. Anyone else?
Stress from a game as a kid? You know nothing of stress.
What does that even mean??
You had to go back to the start when you die. It was punishing
It was a hard game especially for ....7 year olds. Was it 1991 it came out? Anyway maybe 8 years old but difficult. I see James and Mike still have a hard time
The swimming level.
I've always appreciated that the games were different. Since I had an Snes and my buddy a Genesis, it gave some variety on sleep over weekends.
Both games are awesome and among my top 10 favorites for both systems. I have a lot of nostalgia for the Hyperstone Heist as I rented that one a lot from Blockbuster back in the day and eventually bought it and then finally beat it, but I have to give a slight edge to Turtles in Time as it feels a little bit balanced as far as gameplay and controls go and is slightly more addicting, even though the Slash turtle always gives me trouble.
SNES came out 2 years after Genesis. The fact there's even a debate in graphics makes the Genesis that much more impressive
Nya Stclair I agree.
who cares?
Nah
@@dannym6207 Exactly, who cares about graphics. Both games are awesome but I always wondered why konami fucked genesis owners over. Why didn't we get Turtles in Time??? The one thing that kicked ass about hyperstone was the Tatsu fight.
@YTCensorsMe Poop Yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense. I'm just wondering why Konami decided to "cheat" the genesis owners like this. I mean, an entire stage is like dedicated to a bunch of boss fights we have already fought. It was such a waste of time. So much potential wasted.
Turtles in Time was the BEST! Great review, I'd never seen them compared side-by-side like that!
That's a very fare shack down of both games and I really liked you balanced perspective about what or breaks each one if these two games as they are compared to each other, ty for the interesting review and keep up the good work.
Hyperstone was great but turtles in time was epic
AS somebody who grew up with a Genesis and not a SNES, as someone who loved the Turtles and owned Hyperstone Heist as a kid, Turtles in Time is way better. Hell, I'd even say that the SNES Turtles in Time is better than the arcade because of the additional and expanded content, although with the arcade obviously having better graphics, sound, and 4 player capabilities, it's close.
Yeah the snes version is easier and slower, the Genesis is too fast
@@StaticTV80 The Genesis game plays fine, it's just a slog. There's only 4 levels and they are very long levels, and the last level is just a boss rush. The best and only unique thing in the game is they have a Tatsu boss fight, I don't think he's in any other game, and it's nice to see something from the movies.
I feel that Turtles in Time's 6th stage boss, Slash, represents too much of a difficulty spike. I like Turtles in Time equally as Hyper Stone Heist, but I just wanted to note that.
I also REALLY appreciate the dash button. I dunno how useful it was for you since the gens has a garbage tier controller, but using a modern controller on an emulator, it's awesome.
Ha ha the snes version is easy and slower
Both are really great games. I prefer the Genesis version, as a owner of both systems, I always hated the sample sound of the Snes. Turtles in time, had the mode 7, really that's where the Snes, excelled at.
I love both of these, great to run thru with a buddy over lunchtime at work. I don't mind the SNES vs Genesis differences, they both have their charm and neither are the arcade game :P
Sometimes I feel bad why nobody talks about konami's TMNT ( 2003 ) & TMNT battle nexus, I love both of them & both are couch co-op
Oh man I spent hours playing Turtles in Time. Just hearing it bring back so many memories.
Well, I have owned Turtles in Time for a long time and love it. I just got Hyperstone Heist, and I also enjoy it. When it comes to music, graphics, and gameplay I give Turtles in Time 1st prize, but Hyperstone Heist is a close second. Both great games, and every gamer should have both. Long live the SNES and Genesis!
For TMNT i will remember that in Arcade i played it as a kid in 1994 and we got to the end and we did not have coins but was my birthday so the owner gave it an acceptation and pass some few to finished it along with my brother was a wonderful tag team and again we did it on the Sega Genesis in 97.
Just discovered Hyperstone Crisis & Turtles in time. Great games. I guess I grew out of the turtles just before they came out... So when I was a kid I focused on other games. Who new I missed such great games? Playing them now and really enjoying them... Takes me back.
It be comes a really nice habit to watch you show every day 😁👍🏻
Love both, but as is sometimes the case the megadrive game handles better. The fighting is faster and feels more smooth in HH.
But the game is easier overall, specially due to that, but mainly due to the AI taking too much time to attack.
Forced to run with button push ruins the gamplay for me on the genesis.
2 x forward feels so much natural and works way better, especially for people that grow up with SNK 2D Fighters that supported Dash & Run.
The Buttons on the Genesis Pad got to much distance, there is no good solution.
Even when you change it like:
A Jumps, B Dash, C Attack...........now the gap is small, but theres a long distance between Jump and Attack.
All this slow down fast players like me.
U mean Sega mega drive
REALSlutHunter try playing it on an emulator. I’ve played Hyperstone Heist on a genesis emulator with a SNES controller and you’ll love button dash. I found turtles in time to be a fun game but the combat wasn’t as crisp as HH. I can pull off any move and have total control of my mobility in HH whereas in TIT I found myself inadvertently running and getting out of position far too often thanks to the auto dash when holding the dpad.
The snes version is easy & slow ha ha
Pretty much agreed on all points, and your analysis/description was put together very well. Subbed!
Thanks!
As a Genesis owner I have to grudgingly admit the SNES version is superior in almost every way. I prefer the faster gameplay on the Genesis, but the level variety, sound, and ability to throw characters at the screen all make Turtles in Time the 16-bit version to own.
Throwing characters at the screen is very much missed on the Genesis version.
+Cannot be Tamed the control scheme on Genesis is not as good either. It only caters to the 3 button controller and not the 6-button. Did you know that beating Turtles in Time on the Hardest difficulty gets u the ending from the Turtles in Time Arcade game? Not really a huge bonus but worth it
+Derron Browning I did not know that! Pretty cool.
hunter371 its a challenge as on the hardest difficulty, you start off with fewer lives and the AI is tougher.
I learned of this after beating the Turtles in Time Arcade game recently. That"s why on the console versions if u beat it on default or lesser difficulty, Splinter will challenge u at the end to beat it on a harder difficulty
I absolutely love turtles in time and hyperstone heist. I love how they are similar yet have small differences. I think that the idea of one being better than the other is really down to opinion. Each game brings something to the table the other doesn’t have. ToT has better audio and mode 7, Sega has a exclusive level with an awesome song.
I remember playing turtles in time with my older brothers when I was like 3 oh good times and great review I'm glad I found your channel today definitely earned my sub.
+Melendr3z Thanks!
I was mostly a Sega kid growing up, but I agree that Turtles in Time was the better game for all the reasons you pointed out. I was also a big fan of Konami during the 16-bit era, and find this comparison really fascinating. I'd be interested in seeing your thoughts comparing Contra III: The Alien Wars with Contra: Hard Corps (which I feel is the better game), and Super Castlevania IV vs. Castlevania: Bloodlines (which is actually my favorite Castlevania, largely due to the awesome and woefully underappreciated soundtrack).
Cool video, yeah Turtles in time is the superior game to Hyperstone Heist which feels like a bootleg Turtles in Time but it's not bad I suppose. Btw regarding the control element, actually in turtles in time there is a control option to have 3 buttons via the configuration options. You can have the special move as A so you have 3 buttons to use, Y for attack, B for jumping and A for youe special move. They give you a few different options.
I liked Hyperstone Heist better due to better soundtrack rendition (IMO).
Great review, Pam! I, too, have always liked Turtles in Time better of the two. I have started playing the arcade game more as well, and by and large, I actually prefer the SNES boss fights in many cases.
Your vids are so good!! Great choice of games everytime. Keep it up
Dude what the hell is up with your avatar
Xorrak memories. U like?
Xorrak cutie wasn't he?
Strangled corpse, yeah cute man
Xorrak well he is a good kisser and that's what's most important to me.
I remember watching your channel you really have come a long way 90K now
Hey it doesn’t matter which is best.....its turtles!
Slash was the bane of my existence as a kid!
Nice video, and totally agree. I much prefer SNES Turtles. The soundtrack alone makes it better in my eyes. I always had an issue getting in to Sega as much as Nintendo, due to the music quality. But both are worth a play, especially on coop
Turtles in Time has an option that changes the player characters' colors which I find adds a bit to its graphical appeal. Nice review :)
+David Gibson Thanks!
You can change the turtles appearance on Genesis too.
Hyperstone best gameplay and faster, but very short
Tucan Estudios It actually isn't short. It just feels shorter. While Hyperstone Heist has 5 levels, as opposed to 10 in Turtles In Time, the levels in HH are MUCH longer with 4 of the 5 levels consisting of 3 sections each. In reality both games takes just about the same time to beat.
hossain shahriar No it isn't. The SNES version of Turtles in time has less frames of animation and less detail on the characters. Hyperstone Heist definitely plays, looks, and moves smoother.
I don't think so. Looks short because HH have less stages, but it's divided in sub-stages. TiT isn't much longer.
@Enan63 yea dude its generally agreed upon that Turtles in time while a better game does not play anywere near as smooth as hyperstone heist. Time lacks a burst run option that Heist has, this alone makes controlling your turtle way easier.
Turtles in time is one of my all time favorites I never got a chance to play hyperstone tho I'm sure I would have loved it too
Turtles in time clearly is the better game in all categories, but Hyperstone Heist isn't bad either.
Amazing video. Both are classic to me. I loved the Sega when I was younger though.
I remember as a kid, me and my friend Eian would literally use all our game tokens on the Turtles game. We'd be given a few dollars or whatever, and we'd run to the token change machine (remember those?) and we'd literally just play the one game. Even his mother just sort of commented about whether we were gonna play anything else in the arcade....nope. lol
I'd put all of my quarters into the Jurassic Park light gun game.
Just found your channel looking up HyperStone Hiest videos.
Surprisingly there aren't many reviews of it on YT. Subbed =)
Unboxing Gamer Sweet, thanks :)
+Cannot be Tamed
Just revisited The Hyperstone Heist. Just wasn't feeling it. I enjoyed TMNT The Arcade game more even though its a more simple game. I think I just enjoy games 30 minutes at a time now.
Hyper Stones first level took me almost 10 minutes to beat. Just enjoyed it more as a kid.
Grew up on these, got to love the turtles🤘, great video pam.
TMNT TURTLES IN TIME FOR SNES AND HYPERSTONE HEIST ROCKS SO MUCH !!!
I still have my hyper stone heist lol
I never knew Hyperstone Heist existed until the TMNT Cowabunga Collection. Me the only difficult level to get pass was the Gauntlet where you had to defeat all enemies in prior levels.
Looking forward to Shredder's Revenge this year. Will be a nice throwback to this style of gameplay. The same developer already did a home run with Streets of Rage 4 last year.
I can agree that Turtles in Time was better than Hyperstone Heist, even though, I can say that HH was slightly more fun to play. The biggest advantage T.I.T. had over HH was that you can throw enemies off the screen. One fun fact: Hyperstone Heist had Master Tatsu from the first TMNT live action film. Turtles in Time on the other hand, had Tokka and Rahzar from Secret of the Ooze. Just subbed.
KT Johnson I really like throwing enemies offscreen in Turtles in Time, and enjoy the Shredder fight where they made that the way to defeat him.
Nice review Pan. I still have my copy of Hyperstone Heist, had since 1994
Just found your channel, and i'm already hooked!
I'm supscribed and I'm going to go through all your other videos now :)
And remember, the Mega Drive always needs more love ;)
Stefan Johansson Thanks! I do have a lot of Sega games to play, any particular recommendations or requests?
Alien Storm and Splatterhouse 2 is always interesting to hear about. Especially Alien storm. :)
Even if you don't think they'll review worthy you should sit down and play them for a couple of hours.
Neon Night Riders is my favorite stage from TMNT 4 Turtles in Time and my favorite song.
It's one of my favourite levels too
Cool video. I'm a huge TMNT fan and agree with you on most points here. Watch more of the cartoon though. :P Love how you patronize Hyperstone Heist at the end. I'll be playing that one more soon.
+Stephen Wilds I didn't want Hyperstone Heist to feel bad.
So excited you did this game! :D I loved this game as a kid.
Really enjoyed this review. And if you intended to inspire jealousy with your glassware, then mission accomplished!
I recently received Hyperstone Heist for my Genesis today and played through it briefly on normal level. I immediately noticed it was more difficult than my Turtles In Time, even on the hardest setting, which I can breeze right through (hardest boss fight was with Slash, for me at least.). On Hyperstone Heist, I got destroyed by Tatsu's second fight (the one in the cave). I actually appreciate the difficulty! However, you're totally right about the controls. I've grown so used to double tapping to charge that having to actually press a button to do it, with the original Genesis control pad, was a bit tedious and like you, found myself doing it less than I would on the SNES version of the game.
I'm planning to pick up an official 6 button controller to see if that helps. Most of my control issues come from the awkward button layout. The graphics and sounds are what you'd expect from any Genesis game. Sometimes they can be good and sometimes not so good. Regardless, I'm happy to have this game in my collection at a fraction of the going price on ebay.
+Nar Comic Underworld I've been playing more with the 6 button controller and I do find it much better. The A and C buttons are so far apart on the original one.
Yeah, no kidding. I had to adjust them in the options setting. I have charge set on A, attack on B and jump on C. Hopping from A to B+C is much easier but still requires very fast reflexes. By the way, I like your review channel. You're very calm and collected, which is a breath of fresh air. I can only take so much hyper active game reviews before I tune out. I'll be sure to sub. Take care.
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I've never actually seen the Japanese six button controller for the Genesis. Thanks for that tip. I'll definitely keep my eyes open for a set. I totally agree with you R Moocher2, the SNES control pad is quite possibly the best control pad I have ever experienced.
Hell ya nice to see a video made by people my age that can appreciate these amazing games! I love this video! Us kids that grew up in the 90’s (so born in the 80’s) need to band together haha.
Congratulations on the video!
I like the Genesis game better just because it is it's own game exclusive to the Genesis and wasn't an arcade port, and the gameplay is better and faster. Snes might look and sound a bit better but it came out well after the Genesis version, so they could easily improve in those areas and they really didn't shine much compared to the competition. The turtles themselves look better on the Genesis game though. Sega wins this one for me, although I do like both of them alot.
Hyperstone Heist did not come out before Turtles in Time (SNES). Not in any region.
They've got their advantages. Turtles in Time lets you throw enemies at the screen, never seem to be able to do that in Hyper Stone Heist. This IS important to the gameplay, because slamming enemies back and forth is superior functionally, but offers less points (throwing enemies at the screen nets you 3 points in Turtles in Time).
Points lead to lives, so there's an element of strategy in Turtles in Time not present in Hyper Stone Heist.
Bosses have more personality to them gameplay wise in Turtles in Time, bosses like Shredder in the background, tricking Toka and Razar into attacking each other, ect.
Hyperstone Heist has one BIG advantage though: Dash button.
I own both games, they make a great little 2 game marathon (or if you have MAME, you can play the 2 arcades on that to lengthen the marathon, or throw in TMNT 3 NES to add even more length). Both games are good in their own way, though I felt Konami copped out on the Genesis version by adding a boss rush of bosses you've already beaten (leave the boss rush to Gradius Konami, it fits there, and each boss is not a rehash of that games defeated bosses).
Love these games :) . In Turtle in Time you can do some moves while dashing . Some kind of front handspring with the A button I think, a slide on the back with arms and legs crossed I think ( called the snake ifI remember ) with the X button, and the shoulder hit with the Y button, and what's cool is that you can do some handspring and then trigger the snake or shoulder hit. You can also avoid hits while running all over the place in handspring move ( not 100 % sure of this one , or maybe not all hits ) :) .
I don't know if it's the same for hyperstone heist.
Good review. Anything involving the turtles and beat em ups (I see you also reviewed Streets of Rage 2) is worth taking a look, and your video randomly popped up in my 'videos you should watch' thing.
Only minor critique I would say is you should have mentioned that the Turtles could throw the Foot towards the screen in the SNES game but not the Genesis game.
Anyways, subbed. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
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A very good review, quite accurate and detailed.
I played both games extensively as well, but I agree with you on "Turtles In Time" being better. I'd love to own arcade cabinets of both that and the original, someday.
Genesis game looked way better! It’s obvious she is a Nintendo fan girl
I really enjoyed turtles in time on both arcade and snes versions . Hyperstone heist is good too but needs improvement
I often found/find it odd how the Foot soldiers protect their stomachs as if they are human when attacked,anyone else see it too??
Sammy Lane maybe there was confusion as to if they were human.cartoon and games robots live action movies they are human.
Explosive Diareahh. Who knows what Shredder and Krang feeds them.
@@kevynhansyn2902 something explosive because they explode when defeated.
I wished the arcade version was released for Sega CD but I had to settle for the snes port.
Having played both games again recently with emus, I prefer the Hyperstone Heist. While less challenging and maybe shorter, the Hyperstone Heist felt more refined in gameplay, graphics aren't looked as washed out, and sound effect is way better. I find myself having more fun with Hyperstone Heist than Turtles in Time.
Actually HsH is more harder because the enemies are more aggressive.
People stop comparing and competing hyper stone heist with turtles in time. It's just not fair. That's like trying to make Mary Kate and Ashley compete to who's better.
Turtles in time definitely the better one,the hyperstone heist is is a good game for sega
To be honest I liked them both equally. I had an SNES growing up, but didn't have Turtles in Time so I missed out on both games until much later in life so my only experience with it was at an arcade. Basically they're both solid games to play if you're playing games from one console or the other today. If I had to choose, it would be the SNES game. On two games that are so closely related like this where most things are on par between the two, sound is often the deciding factor for me. Rather than catering specifically to the Genesis sound chip (some Genesis games do sound better than their SNES counterparts), they ported it over and while the results were really good, the Genesis sound chip just wasn't made for it.
Sorry if I missed it in the review, but do you have a favorite turtle? Was always a Raphael guy, myself, but I love all of them.
My favorite as a kid was always Mike. But now... he’s pretty annoying.
nice always cool to see a game vs game style review. snes had a ton of control options in the menu's aswell to change things up. both are good games, good replay value with the coop and the difficulty options, least on the snes. im not really sure about the gen version as ive never owned it.
Wow,this takes me to memory lane, miss these games
A lot of people don’t know this but while the SNES had slightly better graphics than the Sega genesis the Sega was a faster system, which is why games like Sonic could have the characters zip around the stage super fast; meanwhile in Super Mario World it’s a slower game than even Super Mario 3 for the NES.
Turtles in Time was my very first SNES game!
Interesting aside to this comparison -- usually, you expect arcade games to outshine their console adaptations, with their more powerful and better optimized hardware. And while the arcade version of Turtles in Time does look a little prettier and sound a little nicer, the SNES version is the better game by far! They made some real design improvements in the months between the two releases.
It's also kinda interesting to see that Hyperstone Heist reverted to having the pizza monsters as the boss of the sewer level like the arcade game.
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Both Tmnt Games Turtles In Time And Hyperstone Heist Are Both Awesome Games I Like Both Games I Played Them Both And They Are Good Games I Still Play Them Both
I have Turtles in Time; it's great
Saw that "Heist" features Tatsu, who is an interesting choice
Some of the best co op experiences ever, along with sunset riders. Also, id say the turtlesintime soundtrack makes into my alltime top 5
I also was a massive Turtles fan growing up, and you nailed this. I enjoyed Turtles in Time way more. I bought it, and only remember renting the Hyperstone game for a weekend. You mentioned how the sound was flatter on the Genesis. Everything I've read indicates the Genesis sound chip was inferior to the one in the Super NES, and only Sega really knew how to get the most out of it. But they were still both, and your guided tour down memory lane for me was highly enjoyed.
Some what right. Sega tried to make easier for Western Developers to use the FM Synthesizer especially one without programming exp . So they created a program called GEMS. Which offered some generic sound effects, sounds and music. The program had customization but what happened most times is they went the easy route. So a lot ( not all) that used this music editor sounded inferior. In the right hands the Genesis sound chip could and did produce excellent music and sound.
Nice to see some ninja turtles fans ! I remember playing turtles in time I think I actually beat it ..I didn't play hyperstone but the first one on Nes was a pain in the ass ...sad to say being 31 I still am a fan of the franchise
Nothing wrong with that.
Teenage mutant ninja turtles four turtles in time is one of the greatest games on the super Nintendo entertainment system priceless.
Turtles in time animation is too stiffed hyperstone heist animation was perfectly done
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I like the SEGA Megadrive better because you can manually run which is cooler!
Hyperstone heist is superior in input response and general ease of combat. It does lack certain gameplay mechanics and is kind of a crammed game, BUT despite much shorter game length and mechanics I found it to be much more enjoyable. Only negative thing about hyper stone is the gaunlet. Also, the level leading up to the boss flight with shredders second hand man from the live action movies is my favorite from the whole series. The train level in turtles in time is probably my favorite from that version
What gameplay mechanics are missing from hyperstone?
Just did full runs of both of these.. Nice review.
Thanks!
I had the Hyperstone Heist and loved that game. I want to buy it again on ebay, but I'm not sure if it's worth $120.
Play it for free on your PC on an emulator.
I grew up with the Genesis and had Hyperstone Heist but I definitely enjoyed Turtles in Time more.
Hyperstone is faster she said so it had BLAST PROCESSING
These tmnt games are very good I still play time after time over the years
Nice, but I prefer the soundtrack on Genesis , more clear, vibrant, and close to arcade
how about reviewing maximum carnage (snes) VS separation anxiety (genesis) both are
spiderman games.
Cool video idea. I agree: both are very fun, but I prefer Turtles In Time for pretty much the same reasons you discussed. The level and boss variety, plus the better music and sound effect quality, push the SNES game above the Genesis'. I still enjoy playing through both though with my sis once in a while :)
LMAO I'm sorry but that casual sip of water out of the Ninja Turtles glass was classic!
:)
Did you look at the rom sizes for each game? Konami short changed Sega with less rom space for animation and background
Actually the sega version has more frames of animation to the turtle sprites movements 👍
@@segaforce8310 With repetitive backgrounds and really long levels that don't change much.
The slow repetitive animations of turtles in time balances out your statement.
TMNT 4 on SNES is easily the best Turtles games ever made. EASILY.
Amen
And it's the easiest and slowest
Constructive criticism here, but for review purposes I believe that capturing footage without using graphical filters would be a better option. It's hard to give an accurate review of the graphics when there is a filter changing how it looks by itself.
Otherwise, I like the review. Glad I stumbled upon your channel.
Valid point. Pam from 2 years ago thanks you.
You know, I looked at 2015 and thought "That wasn't too long ago..." Not quite realizing that it's 2017. Sorry if your newer stuff that I will be watching takes care of that.
I used filters less as time went on. Though I don't think I've done any more comparison videos. Maybe I should remedy that.
Cannot be Tamed this is my favorite turtles game of all time. Have you played the new one on ps4?
+Gen Warts I have not
I prefer the music of the Sega version for sure. The Genesis had a lot of games with fantastic music!
It's weird that Konami started making those TMNT games starting with a sequel.
Thanks for share this video
I'm a professional penciller, and a TMNT fan, who wanna draw them someday
I was drawing them back in the day.
I played the s**t out of Turtles in Time and loved every second of it. Mostly together with my friends. ohh good times. Wasn't even aware of the Genesis game, but it seems they are very much alike.
So thanks for enlighten me AND bringning back so lovely memories.
You're welcome :)
Great review! But it seems like I've seen this before, something familiar, something from the past, oh that's right I've watched this a few years back