The Best Grooveboxes To Buy in 2022 (So Far)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- Grooveboxes are a great option for producers that want to have a streamlined all-in-one unit for idea and song generation, and in 2022 there are a bunch of great options. See what Fess's picks for 2022 (so far) are.
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0:00 - Intro
2:00 - Roland MC-707
2:53 - Roland MC-101
3:42 - Novation Circuit Tracks
5:01 - Elektron Model:Cycles
5:51 - Polyend Play
6:45 - Teenage Engineering OP-Z
7:40 - Outro - บันเทิง
Polyend Tracker in use here. It grows on you and I love the portability. I haven't checked out the Deluge yet but I hear great things about it.
I’ve owned all of them and the MC707 is the one still on my desk and in use. The far superior sound engine. A pretty amazing sequencer (could be better but it’s incredible regardless), great efx and efx routing, faders (lets not underestimate the faders), and a lot more.
polyend tracker ftw
most full featured actually mobile production center you can have outside a laptop. even has mic inputs and a fucking _radio so you can sample whatever is in the airwaves._ which is absolutely insane to me even now
It looks great but i wish i could get used to tracker workflow
Very excellent narration and factoids. I enjoyed this older education. When's the update ye Mr. Groover Man?
Still rocking the MC-707 in 2023...Great piece of kit!
IMO the MC-101 isn't just a smaller sized MC-707, the 707 can sample directly into the device from any audio source and has a full blown synth engine, you don't even need Zenology Pro to edit and create patches from scratch with it.
I'd say the 707 easily enters the workstation territory.
If only they hadn't put "Groovebox" on the front.
its ZEDCORE!! Get it right... lollll
Jokes aside, if this guy presenting ACTUALLY owned one, he''d be saturated with knowledg & he sure as hell would NOT have been calling it 'zedcore' LOLLLL
Oh and youre right about the workstation thing.. there ARE some limitations to it, BUT if you set it up correctly, AND ONLY IF you forget about oldskool MC drum track part mutes, recording modes and the say gbye to the phenomenal arpegiator of the MC legacies, then YOu'll do fine...
BUT even better, toss in a Midi socketed Novation Launchpad Pro mk3 as a controller (or any other controller that can be programmed and accomodate custom midi data per button/pad such as Program change), then youve literally got Ableton in a box BUT its actually better and more efficient coz you can use any one clip on any one track from any row, as opposed to being locked into roaws of clips.. Mind u on a PC it makes no difference coz memory is king, but either way, youre not stuck on row-centric clip launching meaning no need to double handle clips
They just shipped an 1.80 firmware update to the MC-101 and now you can create patches from scratch or edit existing presets right on the device!
It's got some polyphony issues and memory issues sadly
Fun video, thanks!
Love my circuit tracks it changed my whole workflow for the better!
Dirtywave M8 ftw
You didn’t even mention the top 3- Deluge, maschine + and the MPC live2/one.
Machine and MPC are more like little computers with buttons rather than a groovebox and the Deluge is not the easiest to buy its more on the boutique side of things.
@@chuckvicious “A groovebox is a self-contained electronic or digital musical instrument for the production of live, loop-based electronic music”
Maschine + lool, so much limit
prolly coz the profit margin isnt so high coz NI and Akai have their own online stores and software 'expansions' are done online virtually instantly..
- 'use' refers to making use of something within its limitations, whereas, 'utilize' indicates using something beyond its main intended purpose.
What, no MPC One?
Deluge . But all are great! Buy them all!
I have all elektrons, live2, Maschine+, Op1 and Deluge…. But I still miss my MC707, which I’ve sold with regrets.
Op1 or mc 707?
@@Hellboy_2109OP1 is very unique but limited as hell compared to others.
Mpc one can do it all I have tried everything else don’t even come close it’s the Swiss Army, knife and Chameleon of music production
What about the Synthstrom Deluge? That is the best Groovebox imo.
Gets overlooked because it's direct to consumer, I reckon.
I came here to say this, it's like a polyend play but it's got a polyphonic fm/wavetable/subtractive synth with I think voices up to processor power. You can make as many tracks as you want, it's got sampling, a song arranger, and polyrythmic capabilities (euclidian algo) more money than the polyend but def more features. Are we allowed to link it?
Deluge is incredible, it does so much I didn’t want to label it as just a groovebox. But good mention.
I have the Deluge and love it more than my MPC Live and Maschine+. That said...I think the caveat our dude mentioned in the opening is that a "groovebox" can't arrange your sequences into a song, where as a "workstation" (all of this is his definition) like the Deluge (or MPC Live/One?X etc) can arrange your sequences into a song....and chain mode doesn't count as an arranger, per his description.
Kind of why I like the Verselab MV-1 it can be a performer groovebox or a workstation
Actual list for people who actually care about this topic (this video is a limited, short-sighted presentation):
- Akai MPC One
- Teenage Engineering OP-Z
- Roland MC-101
- Roland Verselab MV-1
- Roland SP-404 MKII
- Roland SP-404A
- Roland SP-404SX
- Sonicware SmplTrek (alternative to SP-404 MKII. coming this winter)
- Artiphon Orba 2
- Native Instruments Maschine+
- Akai MPC X
- Akai MPC Live I
- Akai MPC Live II
- Akai Force
- Korg Electribe 2 Sampler (Red)
- Synthstrom Deluge
- Roland MC-707
- Novation Circuit: Rhythm
- Polyend Tracker
- Polyend Play
- Novation Circuit: Tracks
- Elektron Octatrack DPS1 MKII
- Elektron Model: Samples
- Teenage Engineering OP-1
- Teenage Engineering OP-1 Field
- 1010music Blackbox
- Novation Circuit (mk1)
- Elektron Digitakt
- Roland TR-06 Drumatrix
- Roland SP-404A
- Teenage Engineering PO-33 (and 133) KO!
- Dirtywave M8
- Dirtywave M8 DIY/Headless on Teensy 4.1
- Elektron Syntakt
- Pioneer Toraiz Squid
- Korg Volca Beats
- Elektron Analog Rytm MKII
- Twisted Electrons BlastBeats
- Sonicware LIVEN Bass & Beats
- Elektron Model: Cycles
- Erica Synths Perkons HD-01
- Korg Drumlogue
- Elektron Digitone
- Arturia DrumBrute Impact
- Roland T-8 Beat Machine
- Erica Synths LXR-02
- Akai MPC-1000
- Roland TR-6S
- Roland TR-8S
- Korg Volca Drum
- Nunomo QUN
- Nunomo QUN MKII
- Critter and Guitari Organelle (technically)
- LMN-3 DIY Open-Source synth
- Norns
I’ve tried most everything on this list and easily. The MPC one the best.
Any suggestions for something below $350~$300?
@@zaltan0 drumbrute impact model cycles 🔁 or model samples pocket operator KO
@@zaltan0 Novation Circuit or MC101 is the best you can get at the bottom tier
Bars!! 👍
Missing the true king, the Deluge.
I think it has become a workstation at this point.
Carlos, true but when ya first get it it's just a groovebox 😁
The Deluge does it all: sequencer with song mode; FM, subtractive, sampling, and wavetable sound engines; and a looper. I got mine a few years back and the price has going up a few hundred dollars. Synthstrom provides the updates for free which is awesome.
Is it polyphonic?
@@SonicVibe Yep it's polyphonic. I don't think there's a limit on voices other than eventually you'd max out the CPU but I've never hit that point.
Deluge!
I still have my og mc303
YUP!! AAAAAAAAAAAAND still the best arpeggiator on the market... one knob instant drum roll insanity.. among other magical single knob goodness....
👍👍🇺🇸🇨🇦 Let me play with the Groove box!!
electribe
MC-707
Mpcs tho
Why is he calling Zencloud and ZenCore "Zed"?
Lack of knowledge. He's just a salesman. People tend to forget this, when he's claiming what 'he is actually using for himself.'
Lol I was just saying the same thing… I was like who the he$$ is Zed….
@@ameeqalli4248 clearly he’s on team Akai and could care less about Roland.
No bullshit. Dig it
who's Zed? 😁
Zed's dead babe, Zed's dead
microfreak.👍
Zedcore.
If you’re into rock, don’t bother, get an electronic drum kit and use in combo with your DAW. Way way better.
Wtf is zedcore?
hahahahahaha I came back just to ask that same question... SMH
RIP David Bowie
Or you could buy a drum kit.
Hmm 2022 still boring I'll stick with my SP-404
All I needed to know was..."you can buy more sounds on the Roland cloud". NOT INTERESTED!!!! In either the Roland money pit, the AKAI money pit, or the NOVATION money pit. All these "influencers" telling folks to buy this crap, so you can spend all your money downloading their sounds... LOL!!! Are we not suckers? Of course.. no mention of the supplied sounds "sucking".
I sold on Reverb until a buyer claimed my USED tascam tape player didn't work and Reverb FORCED me to pay for the return. Guess what, it worked 100% when i got it back. So i paid for shipping, TWICE and my 424 was back in my hands, Music Go Round took it off me, confirmed no problems with the unit. F U Reverb!
this presentation is quite superficial
What would you expect of a store?
They might be good just make sure you don't buy them from the scammers that are Reverb
Thanks for not playing any of them! Completely useless video.
I wouldnt like these plastic toys for free. They only look good just like any other cheap crap from China full of led lights and nothing else.
Akai Force is the most complete and badass beast.
The Force is a workstation.That is more than a groovebox.