I've had a Thudbuster LT on my bikes for almost 20 years now. They're the best suspension seat post out there imo (and I've tried them all). Doesn't negatively affect handling or performance at all. Feels like a full suspension but without the complexity or weight, very smooth and natural. Durable too. However, it's extremely important to match the correct elastomers to your weight, otherwise it's uncomfortable - either too jarring or always bottoming out. Once dialed in though, it's heaven - and disappears underneath you.
Useful tip. When you see a pothole or big bump coming, lift but off saddle, it makes a big difference. It's best to be aware of road conditions instead of just riding into everything.
I will get a Thudbuster on my already ordered Riese Müller, although everyone here in Germany raves about the seatpost from “bySchulz”. I like the uncomplicated way to change the elastomer of the Thudbuster.
I have this seat post for about a year and love it. Recently i change my seat to a cloud 9 seat, and unfortunately the C9 seat don't fit this seat post.(Thudbuster LT)
@@chuckkoehler9526 I installed the C9 seat on the Thudbuster LT and it is just fine. You just got to remove the piece from the seat the goes on a different seat post.
@@zeeman596 thanks, I added a seat cushion to the seat I bought on Amazon to see how well that works for now. will keep C9 in mind if needed. On my electric bike, after about mile 15, my ass starts to hurt and I go up to about 21 miles or so with only a 5 minute break.
May I ask how bad is it for climbing uphill? Self-quote: "This is potentially interesting for a hardtail MTB, except it doesn´t seem to have any locking mechanism whatsoever, so climbing uphill with this thing on could be much more tiring than it should be with a proper suspension lockout."
That´s the thing, I don´t really know if I want something without a lockout, since it´s a compromise between confort and riding efficiency. I ride long distances, I already have a full suspension without lockout, and whenever I´m on the road and I see a prolonged steep hill ahead, the one thing I miss the most is precisely that lockout, since it translates in a worse efficiency and/or decreased battery life. Not that important when you´re commuting, of course, but when you´re cycling a 9% grade hill for several kms at a time, it is a serious issue.
+1650million I don't notice my Thudbuster while climbing. The seat post will absorb weight only as suspension will absorb energy as well. When the climbing gets steep I'm usually out of the saddle anyways. The only problem I have with mine is it raises your minimum seat height by 4-5 inches. I usually run my frame sizes toward the small side so this ends up working out for me. I got mine off Amazon for $140... I personally love them! I did a video "how steep will an electric bike will climb" and have a thudbuster on that bike.
Hey, thanks for the info. I do think they're cool, but my problem is not climbing 13% hills for a few hundred meters, more like 9%ish for several kms at a time. And the fact that you don't "notice it" doesn't mean you're not bobbing like crazy, thus losing energy/battery over extended periods of time. There's a reason every decent FS bike has a lockout, after all... I actually have a Rockshock Tora Air 130mm travel at the front, with poplock, and I find myself locking it up more often than not. For a recreational, "normal" use, the thudbuster looks pretty good anyway.
So the ST is 330lb max rider weight. I bought the LT and had to return it. Maybe I am confused. with the elastomers. Those were low stock or back ordered. Great info love your videos together. I almost wished I could drive to Cali. and visit the store.
When I was about 70 years old I had something like that. I found it difficult to get off the bike because I could not stand up on my tip toes. So I often fell over at a stop sign! Eventually I Learned how to get off was to swing one leg out very far away from the bike
This is awesome for people who suffer from herniated discs on their backs. This should absorb all of the impact if not most of it. Would adding a cloud 9 gel seat bike make the rider even better?
Bought one but can't use it because the seat clamp does not truly fit the rails of my saddle. It's not only that it's a bit narrow but also that they've made seat railing channel that is too narrow to fully allow a secure cradling of the rails. I have three saddles and it didn't allow any of them to sit IN the rails and not ON the rails. I'm gonna try and find a work around but the company should have thought of more adaptability to saddles.
I understand that you're pretty knowledgeable in what you're doing, but when you ask someone something, and they're talking, maybe just let them finish what they say, then you can add on the knowledge of yours.
@@edinburg3519 in the U.S it's recommended that you wear a helmet when riding a bike Some States it's the law. He was probably riding or going to ride a bike after the talk
Valid constructive criticism..... This is more like a live in life conversation and it makes it more real for me. Rather than an interview style which can be very boring and scripted. 2X playback speed really gets the job done.
Hi, I just purchased 4 LT for my bikes, but the 3 LT has the see through bushings, and one has solid bushings you cannot see through, would that be a first generation model...older? Also, it feels soggy and will not return to the top of the travel. Stripped, greased and fully serviced it, tried 2x 5 rubbers, and 2x 7 rubbers, but still the same, feels quite limp. Is it because I need a new bushing kit? Any advice would be a help. Simon, Wales UK.
Video was made almost 5 years ago. Is that man still 300lbs? Would like to know! I'm 305 riding a beach cruiser style 250w ebike and down 60 pounds since I started in Aug 2020. I am outgrowing my bike very quickly now but cannot afford to upgrade either.
I just picked up a RadRover with a Suntour SP12-NCX. However I have shorter legs, and with the Suntour and my rear fender installed, its almost too high to ride comfortably. Can you recommend a seatpost suspension/shock that doesn't sit quite so high? Thanks in advance.
Is there an updated version of the suspension post or have there been other brands to go with? Thanks for the help my seat has been hurting to seat on and I think I might have to change the post.
Hello .. So I have the problem you described ..Thudbuster would put my seat too high ...also pivoting back would bump into the battery ..What's the choices for this situation ?
is your seat high enough? I believe when the back part of your foot is on the pedal is should be locked or almost locked out. I have my thud really high in the air on my 20" e-bike. I have to jump off when I stop it at a light since my toe either barely touch the ground or not at all.
@@chuckkoehler9526 Thanks for the reply ....mine is a 26 incher and I have the seat as high as I can get it and still touch the ground from a sitting position ... My leg is almost extended as far as you said ..I got this new bike to get off a 700 size bike I had for 20 years and was to tall for me when I bought it ...Older now I have trouble throwing my leg over the seat that's why I got this one ...Simple safe cruiser
@@liberalforfreedom ok, yeah. big difference. my wheel diameter is 23" fat tire and I am tall, so I am way up in the air from the battery.. I know the 26" fat tire has a diameter of 29", so the seat doesn't need to be raised much or at all. I didn't realize how the thudbuster worked until after I bought it.
I want One, been looking for something like this for my Electric Bike, not much of a Suspension for the Seat Area, I would like the Seat that was shown also. any information would be good. I'm also a Heavy person, just like the Retailer was 260, I'm 255
I wish Juiced still made bikes like this rather than what are basically just toy mopeds now... I'd have gotten one of these if they were still in production over what I ended up getting...
@@gloriouspopemantom373 Just another question, I weigh bout 80 Kgs (176 Pounds) was wondering which one I should be going for, or is it in relation to which spring I should get?
Ok I was about to order one of these my partner will get one but I can't I am too short. Please recommend a suspension post I can use. I try to ride 15 to 30 miles 5 days a week and my butt feels all those uneven spots in the road
Can anyone confirm the ThudBuster's seat post can be cut shorter and not affect the suspension? I would cut the seat post with a hacksaw myself and grind to smoothen out the end. This presumes the ThudBuster's suspension mechanism does *not* go down into the seat post like some other seat suspension types. I will need to shorten down a ThudBuster's seat post to fit on one of my bikes. EDIT: at 5:30 in the video, I can just glance that the seat post *appears* to be just a regular tube with no mechanism inside. I just need confirmation from an actual ThudBuster user though. :)
is there anyone over 250 lbs actually riding a bike? any kind of bike? i used to feel sad for small motorcycles when i saw a fat guy on it. i thought "poor bike must be in pain" this guy at 260 should just stop eating for 5 days. easy to do. the record is a 400 lb man who went 361 days and became NORMAL at the end of that year. true story.
This is potentially interesting for a hardtail MTB, except it doesn´t seem to have any locking mechanism whatsoever, so climbing uphill with this thing on could be much more tiring than it should be with a proper suspension lockout.
The offset gets too much with this seatpost for me. Wish they would make a parallelogram seatpost with a shape that would compensate for the increased backwoulds offset, that is in the parallelogram design. Because the angle from the saddle down to the pedals gets less steep, which makes it harder to put energy into the pedals.
The long travel version is quite too bouncy for my taste, also more expensive than other products in the same range. The short travel seems to be more convenient but I have not had opportunity to try it.
Some of these seats have holes in them could never figure that out maybe it's for assholes sweat. I'm more worried about if the seat pole breaks off it could go up your ass. Never what I design a seat like that
In my opinion it's better than the short travel vertical shocks (mentioned in the video) and still cheaper than a Body Float or other so it has a place. What's your favorite suspension seat post? I want to test/review a bunch... Have you tried the COBL GOBL-R from Specialized?
Relatively light guy?! 135lbs is not relatively light my friend. Try extremely light. My 14 yr old weighs 135. Lol. I'm jealous so i had to call that out. Nice review thumbs up. Thanks for addressing weight limits. I'm extremely heavy. 295lbs. So weight limits are a thing for me with most products. I have to order extra extra fat ass.
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I have one (long travel); it is a quality product and does what it claims. Love it.
I've had a Thudbuster LT on my bikes for almost 20 years now. They're the best suspension seat post out there imo (and I've tried them all). Doesn't negatively affect handling or performance at all. Feels like a full suspension but without the complexity or weight, very smooth and natural. Durable too. However, it's extremely important to match the correct elastomers to your weight, otherwise it's uncomfortable - either too jarring or always bottoming out. Once dialed in though, it's heaven - and disappears underneath you.
Useful tip. When you see a pothole or big bump coming, lift but off saddle, it makes a big difference. It's best to be aware of road conditions instead of just riding into everything.
Excellent review. Having Sam chime in with his expertise just adds to your very thorough reviews. Great job.
Thanks Juan! I'm sure he appreciates that positive feedback, I enjoy reviewing with him :)
but doesn't he look WEIRD wearing a helmet at ALL TIMES?
I will get a Thudbuster on my already ordered Riese Müller,
although everyone here in Germany raves about the seatpost from “bySchulz”.
I like the uncomplicated way to change the elastomer of the Thudbuster.
I like Sam's no nonsense approach, thank you for including him in your videos
I used a coke can shim on my whammy bar recently. Not a bad idea
I have a ThudBuster LT 31.6 for my 2014 e-Motion 650B, love it!
I have this seat post for about a year and love it. Recently i change my seat to a cloud 9 seat, and unfortunately the C9 seat don't fit this seat post.(Thudbuster LT)
really? I thought all seats are standard. I have an LT Thud and was thinking about getting a Cloud 9.
@@chuckkoehler9526 I installed the C9 seat on the Thudbuster LT and it is just fine. You just got to remove the piece from the seat the goes on a different seat post.
@@zeeman596 thanks, I added a seat cushion to the seat I bought on Amazon to see how well that works for now. will keep C9 in mind if needed. On my electric bike, after about mile 15, my ass starts to hurt and I go up to about 21 miles or so with only a 5 minute break.
Thanks to your review I bought Thudbuster LT. It is awesome, it does a great job. Thank you.
Just ordered mine today. thanks for the useful (as always!) review.
I ride thudbuster lt on all my hard tails now. Just finished a new fat bike build complete with thudbuster and love it!
May I ask how bad is it for climbing uphill?
Self-quote: "This is potentially interesting for a hardtail MTB, except it doesn´t
seem to have any locking mechanism whatsoever, so climbing uphill with
this thing on could be much more tiring than it should be with a proper
suspension lockout."
Interesting point... In that case you might want to go for the short travel design? You might lose some energy to bobbing in either case.
That´s the thing, I don´t really know if I want something without a lockout, since it´s a compromise between confort and riding efficiency.
I ride long distances, I already have a full suspension without lockout, and whenever I´m on the road and I see a prolonged steep hill ahead, the one thing I miss the most is precisely that lockout, since it translates in a worse efficiency and/or decreased battery life. Not that important when you´re commuting, of course, but when you´re cycling a 9% grade hill for several kms at a time, it is a serious issue.
+1650million I don't notice my Thudbuster while climbing. The seat post will absorb weight only as suspension will absorb energy as well. When the climbing gets steep I'm usually out of the saddle anyways. The only problem I have with mine is it raises your minimum seat height by 4-5 inches. I usually run my frame sizes toward the small side so this ends up working out for me. I got mine off Amazon for $140... I personally love them! I did a video "how steep will an electric bike will climb" and have a thudbuster on that bike.
Hey, thanks for the info. I do think they're cool, but my problem is not climbing 13% hills for a few hundred meters, more like 9%ish for several kms at a time. And the fact that you don't "notice it" doesn't mean you're not bobbing like crazy, thus losing energy/battery over extended periods of time. There's a reason every decent FS bike has a lockout, after all...
I actually have a Rockshock Tora Air 130mm travel at the front, with poplock, and I find myself locking it up more often than not. For a recreational, "normal" use, the thudbuster looks pretty good anyway.
I added one to my ebike - a big improvement
I love mine. You can get a cloth cover for it to keep it clean - not sure if it comes with it, I've mine for 5 years.
So the ST is 330lb max rider weight. I bought the LT and had to return it. Maybe I am confused. with the elastomers. Those were low stock or back ordered. Great info love your videos together. I almost wished I could drive to Cali. and visit the store.
How does this affect handling and performance?
When I was about 70 years old I had something like that. I found it difficult to get off the bike because I could not stand up on my tip toes. So I often fell over at a stop sign! Eventually I Learned how to get off was to swing one leg out very far away from the bike
there's a fairly easy way to mount/dismount a bike if you know how.
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This is awesome for people who suffer from herniated discs on their backs. This should absorb all of the impact if not most of it. Would adding a cloud 9 gel seat bike make the rider even better?
EL EVO yes
I have had a surgery for a herniated disc and it still bothers me. I think I’m going to get this.
Bought one but can't use it because the seat clamp does not truly fit the rails of my saddle. It's not only that it's a bit narrow but also that they've made seat railing channel that is too narrow to fully allow a secure cradling of the rails. I have three saddles and it didn't allow any of them to sit IN the rails and not ON the rails. I'm gonna try and find a work around but the company should have thought of more adaptability to saddles.
I understand that you're pretty knowledgeable in what you're doing, but when you ask someone something, and they're talking, maybe just let them finish what they say, then you can add on the knowledge of yours.
Read my mind
Yes I thought the interruptions to be quite rude. Also why is presenter wearing a helmet?
@@edinburg3519 in the U.S it's recommended that you wear a helmet when riding a bike
Some States it's the law. He was probably riding or going to ride a bike after the talk
Valid constructive criticism..... This is more like a live in life conversation and it makes it more real for me. Rather than an interview style which can be very boring and scripted. 2X playback speed really gets the job done.
Hi, I just purchased 4 LT for my bikes, but the 3 LT has the see through bushings, and one has solid bushings you cannot see through, would that be a first generation model...older? Also, it feels soggy and will not return to the top of the travel. Stripped, greased and fully serviced it, tried 2x 5 rubbers, and 2x 7 rubbers, but still the same, feels quite limp. Is it because I need a new bushing kit? Any advice would be a help. Simon, Wales UK.
I am buying one, get on to them boys, YOU sold me on it and they should give you something. Great quality review
Ron Wylie are you happy with it?
Video was made almost 5 years ago. Is that man still 300lbs? Would like to know! I'm 305 riding a beach cruiser style 250w ebike and down 60 pounds since I started in Aug 2020. I am outgrowing my bike very quickly now but cannot afford to upgrade either.
Congrats! Keep cruising.
That long travel is important where I am ... Minnesota has terrible roads.
I just picked up a RadRover with a Suntour SP12-NCX. However I have shorter legs, and with the Suntour and my rear fender installed, its almost too high to ride comfortably. Can you recommend a seatpost suspension/shock that doesn't sit quite so high? Thanks in advance.
Thudbuster ha... I'll definitely buy one for my ebike thanks! for another EBR video 👍
Is there a longer post version for the Xiomi Mi Qicycle ebike?
Thanks for the video!
How reliable is it? I think those rubber things will wear pretty quickly, no?
No. They last forever.
Seat suspension makes my back hurt on heavy hub motor ebike by day 2... I put the stationary post back on and I have no back irritation.
Is there an updated version of the suspension post or have there been other brands to go with? Thanks for the help my seat has been hurting to seat on and I think I might have to change the post.
Manuel C IIl sorry for the late response you should also check out the SR SUNTOUR NCX SEAT POST
Hello .. So I have the problem you described ..Thudbuster would put my seat too high ...also pivoting back would bump into the battery ..What's the choices for this situation ?
is your seat high enough? I believe when the back part of your foot is on the pedal is should be locked or almost locked out. I have my thud really high in the air on my 20" e-bike. I have to jump off when I stop it at a light since my toe either barely touch the ground or not at all.
@@chuckkoehler9526 Thanks for the reply ....mine is a 26 incher and I have the seat as high as I can get it and still touch the ground from a sitting position ... My leg is almost extended as far as you said ..I got this new bike to get off a 700 size bike I had for 20 years and was to tall for me when I bought it ...Older now I have trouble throwing my leg over the seat that's why I got this one ...Simple safe cruiser
@@liberalforfreedom ok, yeah. big difference. my wheel diameter is 23" fat tire and I am tall, so I am way up in the air from the battery.. I know the 26" fat tire has a diameter of 29", so the seat doesn't need to be raised much or at all. I didn't realize how the thudbuster worked until after I bought it.
bounce harder on that pole bro'
I want One, been looking for something like this for my Electric Bike, not much of a Suspension for the Seat Area, I would like the Seat that was shown also. any information would be good. I'm also a Heavy person, just like the Retailer was 260, I'm 255
Exactly what I have been waiting for.
I have suntour ncx and I Love it. If you wonder, stop and buy it.
I wish Juiced still made bikes like this rather than what are basically just toy mopeds now... I'd have gotten one of these if they were still in production over what I ended up getting...
We need more from sam
Very thorough, excellent review.
Thanks, it's nice to have a second voice and Sam offers a great perspective. Going to be reviewing the Body Float soon as well :)
where can I order one of these?...am 80Kgs and I uber eats and menulog, which means that I do a lot of riding on my e-bike.
Amazon has em, I ride with the Suntour SP12, amazing, got the black heavy spring for 100kg.
@@gloriouspopemantom373 Just another question, I weigh bout 80 Kgs (176 Pounds) was wondering which one I should be going for, or is it in relation to which spring I should get?
@@NicolaMs007
You will be fine with the built in one.
Enjoy.
How long does the rubber last? If you go on a tour to the third world would spares need to be taken?
Ok I was about to order one of these my partner will get one but I can't I am too short. Please recommend a suspension post I can use. I try to ride 15 to 30 miles 5 days a week and my butt feels all those uneven spots in the road
A Brooks saddle with springs also works really well. It can be a little noisy and could take a while to break in but mine is super comfortable.
Can anyone confirm the ThudBuster's seat post can be cut shorter and not affect the suspension? I would cut the seat post with a hacksaw myself and grind to smoothen out the end.
This presumes the ThudBuster's suspension mechanism does *not* go down into the seat post like some other seat suspension types. I will need to shorten down a ThudBuster's seat post to fit on one of my bikes.
EDIT: at 5:30 in the video, I can just glance that the seat post *appears* to be just a regular tube with no mechanism inside. I just need confirmation from an actual ThudBuster user though. :)
What's the bike again? ODK juicer 500?
Yeah, we were testing on the Juiced Bikes ODK U500 V3 and I've reviewed it more in depth here: electricbikereview.com/juiced-bikes/odk-v3/
Thudbuster has stated max rider weight of 250lbs....
A 300+lb rider using a product with a 250-lb limit.
Good luck with that.
is there anyone over 250 lbs actually riding a bike? any kind of bike? i used to feel sad for small motorcycles when i saw a fat guy on it. i thought "poor bike must be in pain" this guy at 260 should just stop eating for 5 days. easy to do. the record is a 400 lb man who went 361 days and became NORMAL at the end of that year. true story.
@@PellegrinoPool WTF is the matter with you? Biking is for everyone.
@@PellegrinoPool me. 285 lbs on a fat bike. no problem at all. by the way....i am not a big fat guy. still, i weight at 285 lbs
maybe you should stop and think what your saying buddy. not all people are skinny that likes to ride bikes
Very informative video.
I have similar SR Suntour seatpost with my Flyer Isy.
This is potentially interesting for a hardtail MTB, except it doesn´t seem to have any locking mechanism whatsoever, so climbing uphill with this thing on could be much more tiring than it should be with a proper suspension lockout.
well this is electric bike reviews, I suppose if it is a manual bike it would have a slight problem uphill.
The problem is exactly the same. How tired you get/how much battery you waste is just a ratio.
+1650million I don't get it why you need this on a mtb hardtail. if you ride trails, you can not sit down anyway.
There´s life outside trails, mate. I use my bike for everything. See my other reply if you want.
I often remain seated when climbing medium steepness on e-mountain bikes and feel the bumps then quite a bit
The offset gets too much with this seatpost for me. Wish they would make a parallelogram seatpost with a shape that would compensate for the increased backwoulds offset, that is in the parallelogram design. Because the angle from the saddle down to the pedals gets less steep, which makes it harder to put energy into the pedals.
WalMart Online has the Cane Creek Thudbuster Lt X-Soft #1 Black - BAE0003 for $10.44
The long travel version is quite too bouncy for my taste, also more expensive than other products in the same range. The short travel seems to be more convenient but I have not had opportunity to try it.
Will this fit an E-Joe Swan?
Liz Childers yes but you’ll need a shim
Sam is the best of the best.
YOU CAN ALWAYS CUT THE BOTTOM POST TO SHORTEN IT
Some of these seats have holes in them could never figure that out maybe it's for assholes sweat. I'm more worried about if the seat pole breaks off it could go up your ass. Never what I design a seat like that
Very helpful Review
Travel ?
i love mashoon made things!
hehe!
I love pandas and bunnies... truly :D
*No Comment* 3:33
LOL
He was one of the guys in the woods off the highway in the movie something about mary.
sir this product availabil in Amazon India please share a link
Hi! I'm not sure, it's called the Cane Creek Thudbuster LT. I have never been to India so I do not know how to check?
It is an elasomer shock. A la 1993.
In my opinion it's better than the short travel vertical shocks (mentioned in the video) and still cheaper than a Body Float or other so it has a place. What's your favorite suspension seat post? I want to test/review a bunch... Have you tried the COBL GOBL-R from Specialized?
ElectricBikeReview.com
Probably this one. I was just pointing out that this is very old tech.
+ElectricBikeReview.com Test the Suntour NXC SP-12. It's very similar to this CK Thudbuster, but at about half the price.
is it durable ?
Relatively light guy?! 135lbs is not relatively light my friend. Try extremely light. My 14 yr old weighs 135. Lol. I'm jealous so i had to call that out. Nice review thumbs up. Thanks for addressing weight limits. I'm extremely heavy. 295lbs. So weight limits are a thing for me with most products. I have to order extra extra fat ass.
Doesnt look like it has any damping? Better than nothing i guess.
wonderful metric world.
Metric is so much simpler. I support metric every 2.54 cm of the way.
You're customer needs a quad recumbent
Why? I’m 6’3 and 300. I’m not an invalid, just big.
This isn't a video on the best suspension seat post....it's an advertisement.
This looks like a design people will laugh at (like WTF did they do that?) 10 years from now.
The nose of that saddle seems set too high, I think it's not the right setting...sorry, painful to watch this part :-(
Hello From Russia
Is anyone else tired of hearing about Corts weight!?(138!!!!!!)
And please...someone tell him how dorky he looks by Never taking off that helmut
I wonder if this ebiker is a Trump supporter.?. 🤔
I definitely hope so trump 2020
@@philipcox5041 Keeping America Great 2020
You're fired. 😂
This is the official e bike for weenies available to purchase at weenie hut jr outlet near you
Maybe the 300lb guy should ride a real bike and actually lose some weight