Unwrapping Parcels of French Lapidary Rough from 1881
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The handwriting on the invoices are very elegant. Shows how people back then had very nice skillful handwriting skills.
Perhaps the glass beads were shipped in this fashion so that the lapidaries could melt them easier to pour into molds or fashion easier in larger sizes.
And I always thought a lapidary was a cow farm in Finland
lol. I never heard that before. The older English version of the word lapidary usually refers to encyclopedia-like medieval books about gems. Comes from the Latin lapidibus which is also a book about the properties of stones. I think the root In Latin is Lapid which I think means stone but you’ll use to double check.
@@JustinKPrim I believe you’re right. ‘Lapis lazuli’ refers to a blue stone, and since ‘lazuli’ is suspiciously similar to the Spanish ‘azul,’ it evidently translates literally to blue stone.
That is absolutely AMAZING!!!!!
Very interesting find.
I wonder if some are natural gemstones.
. . 💎 Beautiful old glass, I love it even still . . 🍀 Good Luck on your adventures going back in to time 🕰a renaissance ✨ and an age 💭
The Jura was a center for Anarchism in the late 1800's. The home workers were organised , and politically active.Prince Peter Kropatkin spent time there to study the Cooperatives when he was exiled from Russia. Maybe this will shed a little light on some of the paper work.
Womens clothing was hand made and often covered in hand cut glass work. It was not considered fake it was saleable to milliners, and dressmakers. Intersting find historically ....thanks
The round clear ones, could they be pools of light?
It is possible that the glass bits were practice for apprentices to facet.
I don’t think so. There are too many of them. Also I know there was a section of the Jura faceting industry that did synthetics and I think this would have gone to them.
So, in other words these "gemstones" were part of a costume jewelry trade, that used colored glass instead of real gemstones, which would have put their cost into a level that only more affluent people could afford. Cool, I have to say that the Bag of Sapphires you first opened made my heart up in my throat, because the color was fairly accurate, well, on some of them anyways. The machine is of much more interest for mee, so cool that you were able to buy it, now you need to return the entire setup back to working order! Back then, machines were meant and built to last generations, so they were built to last, to as high a level as they could achieve. Much like my Grand Mother's Singer Sewing machine that my Grand Father bought for her back before the great depression, and that machine was NOT new, it was second hand. so it was actually older than the 1920s, but for the life of me I cannot remember the actual date on the manufacturing stamp, which I looked at I know not how oft.
Yes. For the costume trade. And the machine is back in working condition and starting to be used already in my buddies office in London. I just bought myself a bench last weekend that I’m currently restoring. Video coming soon, once that project is finished.
Very Cool selection of goodies.
Justin - I have a feeling that the Hammer is used to Loosen (and/or tighten) the Horizontal Cast Iron Arm that supports the top of the Cutting Wheel Spindle. It seems a bit much for setting Diamond into a lap, especially when there was, what appears to be about a 3/4" Wheel on the end of a handle which would work the same as how you use a Bearing.
Just some ideas to see what you think ?
Yes that’s a good thought. It is a bit huge for pressing in diamond and I did wonder why they’d need a roller and a hammer.
Check for rare stamps…
Wonder if those postage stamps are of value. Historical non the less but still glass.
The stamps will definitely be of interest to certain collectors.
The invoices are of historic interest.
Be interested in buying some of the stones if interested
Sir any gem cutting vacancy in your country????pls let me know
Would you mind telling us how much you paid for this find?
It came with my buddies machine. I pitched in €250 and got 1/3 of the glass rough plus a few small accessories that I was wanting for my collection. I think the whole workbench and accessories and rough was €1500
nice one although 1881 is a bit of a misnommer if i may say so. the blue saffire at 3;21 looks a lot like synthetic saffire, vernuille?
definitely. Verneuil was invented in France in 1902. Same general time period. So maybe that helps date the rest of the parcel.
@@JustinKPrim lol, appologies if i sounded like an ass. incedently, that 4coloured round brilliant, is that a doublet with diffrent coulored inset?
@@andre-pauldasilva5726 no I think it’s glass with four colors inside. I need to look closer but it might be the cut version of one of those clear glass things with the colorful dot but I think it’s just 4 colors rolled into 1 piece and then Faceted.
Could any of them be synthetic sapphire? If so, then they could be for the watch and clock industry back then. Someone needed to make the "jewels" in pocket watches and clocks.
When we first saw them in the antique store that’s what I thought they were but now that I’ve seen them up close, I don’t think so. Synthetic Sapphire has a pretty specific shape and it’s not a sphere. I need to cut a flat on one and check it on the refractometer to confirm though.
The first synthetic sapphire wasn't made until 1874, I think, and the first synthetic ruby was made in 1885, so that makes it very unlikely that any of these are those
@@robertbradford3461 they’re glass.
@JustinKPrim hella funny, you answered to the first guy that that's what you thought, when you first saw it. I answered that that's not what I thought and a why, and then you answered me telling me it was glass, why?
@@robertbradford3461 the first time I saw these was in an antique store a year ago. We didn’t take any out of the packages, and just looked in one open bag and I thought they were round and flat which made me think ruby watch pivot bearings. Now that we’ve taking them home and looked at it all, they appear to be glass. From the date of the paper, they definitely could be sapphire. As you said, these “Geneva rubies” hit the market around 1880 and these papers are from just around 1881 or a bit later. If they were synthetic rubies, they would be first generation, which would be amazing, but on further inspection, they don’t look anything like Verneuil sapphire, which grow in bullet shapes like the clear ones you can see at the beginning of the video. These are almost all spheres or nearly spheres and that’s not what rough synthetics look like. I need to test to be 100% sure, but I would be really shocked if they’re anything but glass for the costume jewelry trade.
I meant no offense to you. When TH-cam shows me the comments I don’t always see them in the thread, just an individual comments and I didn’t realize yours was in response to a previous conversation.
Possible costume industry uses?
That's what he means when he says they were for the cheap jewelry trade.
Fakes all
. . fake glass you mean ? . . can glass be faked too ?
Commented before they mentioned glass. Then I had a “ Oh that makes sense”
Nice old scammers selling fake jewelry 👌 to the POORE
Huh? They weren't scamming. This is for a market of glass stone jewelry. It was quite common back then. The cutting industry was divided into those that cut glass and synthetics and those that only cut fine stones. Even now the French jewelry market is divided into different market segments with their own unique names. Bijou Fantaisie refers to jewelry with glass or other stimulants like CZ.
It's called costume jewelry and depending on a variety of factors some can be worth a decent price.