This is the reason I don't do camera reviews over on my channel (despite the requests) - DPReview videos are so brilliant that I couldn't compete! Nice work :-)
Christopher do you know which lenses will use the full potential of the MP sensor for this camera? I'm thinking of the 35mm sigma art but open to recommendations
Especially when Jordan crawl and cry like a baby on the ground. Honestly I don't really care about cameras, what I like to watch is these guys introducing gears.
Nice review guys and you beat me to it! I actually thought rolling shutter in video was pretty well controlled in my tests, but then I'd been using the A6400 previously. I also agree about the lenses - the 15-45mm is definitely not good enough, although i do like having that wider than average coverage at the short-end. x
doogieham Chris talked about this on the video. Resolving more than 24MP on an APS-C sensor is very difficult-and it’s perhaps the main reason APS-C has remained at 24MP for so long on so many cameras. Recently Fujifilm moved all the way up to 26MP, and Samsung swing for the fences with 28MP back in the day. I think 32 is overkill (almost as much as 80MP on FF will be).
Gordon Laing The rolling shutter should be better in video since Canon isn’t supersampling their footage from 6K to 4K, but is instead using good ol’ 2012-era line skipping, and it’s soft image quality. Also, 15mm on an EF-S sensor is like 16mm on other brands’ APS-C cameras (like Sony and Fuji, the latter of which *does* have a true 15mm zoom kit lens).
Great review. Your reviews look gorgeous and flow smoothly. How hard is it to make the review look like you are just talking about the product to a friend? I'd love to see a detailed behind-the-scenes video of your process in making these reviews. For example, how do you outline the review? Do you write a script, pick bullet points or do the dialog off-the-cuff? Do you have a crew or is it just the two of you? On this partly indoor shoot, do you use lighting? What is post like. Who edits it? Thanks for making these reviews such a pleasure to watch.
I'd love to do a BTS episode in the future! After spending some time with the camera, we do a short bullet-point outline of information that needs to be covered, then Chris and I spend a meal arguing over what our opinions are. We rarely have a crew, except for our Wooden Niccolls episodes. We use small lights when necessary, either a LumaHawk Shadowless 300 Round LED, or an Aputure COB 300D. Chris edits his Raw files, and sends them off to me, and I edit the episodes. Full length reviews are generally two days of post, and shorts are a day. Hope this gives you a bit of insight into our process, thanks for the kind words!
Great review! I would love to hear/see a comparison from you between the M6 mkii and the M50, as one might argue that for instance the added resolution of the former is pointless until further developments on the lens front 😛
What a great review. I got the M6 Mk II in January 2020. I knew this would be the EF-M swan song, and I have no regrets. The final native lens, the 32mm is one of the best lenses ever made.
One of the reasons I bought this camera is the ergonomics and ease of use you mentioned. Sony Alphas may have better video capabilities, but M6 Mark II seemed like a more complete and convenient option for me
I usually shoot with an EVF on my Olympus Pen E-PM1, and I love the fact that it tilts for low angle shots. I know most people wouldn't care much about it, but for a rangefinder style camera, I find it essential.
Yeah, tilting EVF is very nice indeed! Surely more fragile, but can be truly useful. I really like it for low angle shots (which itself is often quite refreshing change to usual), but also sometimes when working with a tripod. I go in weird angles with the ballhead and tilting EVF can save the day. Good stuff!
Interestingly though, the Canon EVF-DC2 doesn’t have a tilt facility. The larger, earlier EVF-DC1 does and it is probably compatible (both units have been compatible with previous Canons that take an accessory EVF).
about lenses: Sigma announced it will be releasing ef-m trio, most importantly 16mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.4, combined with EF-M 32mm f1.4 and ef-m 22mm f2 - efm prime lens offering will be great value. Fast zooms for the tiny m6 is overkill way too costly (r&d investment)- adapting existing ef-s alternatives through m mount adapter makes more sense (gonna be huge anyway).
Great review, guys. Interesting what you're saying about most of the current lenses not being up to the resolution of the sensor. Canon are finally getting their sensor & focusing games together. Their AF has been great for years, but needed some improvement. The BSI stacked sensor with IBIS they have in development (they filed patents last year and again this year) will probably be amazing. They also filed a patent for quad-pixel AF. Nice intro too! 🙂
Mad English TV because not a lot of people watch all the reviews and rumors about the future of a system. They know canon they buy canon. Also if the consumers support the system I am confident canon will also do.
@@professionalpotato4764 They didn't make more lenses because they figured most people who run this type of camera are not "professionals". Aside from that, I am not sure why anyone cares about the number of lenses so much when there are good EF lenses you can adapt to this system. The Canon 100mm F2.8 'L' macro works perfectly for me with the stupidly expensive adaptor. Yes, you are losing light, but just buy a good lighting system. The EF-S lenses that they speak of ARE designed for crop sensor cameras, but are not as tack sharp, and this sensor NEEDS tack sharp.
Great I really love this camera I agree on what you pointed out on pros and cons, bought this camera after watching some reviews and this is the one of the videos that pushed me to buy this camera over other competition. I also made an unboxing on m6 mark ii and its great! Btw. 24 is now available!
Oh my god, maybe 12p or even 6p would be even "more cinematic"? I predict 60p as the soon to come "bare minimum", and a standard. Gaming monitors have even 144 Hz refresh rate, because... slower frame rates are visible to human eyes.
@@Raychristofer Best not to say anything here. The facts can be seen - at least at the moment I write this - in Wikipedia under Money for Nothing - the song.
I'm going on 200 hours of camera reviews now and every single camera has serious drawbacks. None of the cameras are good unless you spend $5500. It's really depressing.
The lack of a flip-out screen makes it a rather bad vlogging camera. The tilt screen it has is completely useless if you want to use a shoe-mounted external microphone and have it on a tripod.
@@АлексейНовиков-у6ф6б I have a very important question, please answer quickly with regard to the microphone. Is it possible to connect the microphone Rode to this camera or not compatible with it? I want to use a wireless microphone Thanks for your understanding
The review makes me very happy that I just bought an A6400. It comes the closest to ticking all the boxes for me, especially in terms of video capability. I wish Canon would have kept the 24MP sensor and instead focused on some of the deficiencies highlighted in this video. I really like using Canon cameras, but as @CameraConspiracies would say, the Canon Cripple Hammer is in full swing here.
I still want to see an M5 MK II. Give it the same sensor/processor as on this one, built in EVF and joystick of the MK I, fully articulated screen and weather sealing comparable to the x0D line. Then just have to wait for the lenses to catch up.
Interesting review! Excluding the kit lens, I never would have considered lenses not being up to the task. I'm using Canon's ef adapter on my M50 and don't care for the wiggle in the mount.
Every EF and EFS Lens I tested on the Canon EOS 6M mark 2 is sharper than the lenses that come with this camera. So I advise everybody to buy the original canon adapter and use your old lenses. You will get way better images with less grain. Regarding the IS, the kittens has build in IS, but you have to turn the IS in the camera menu to on too for filming.
@DPReview Thank you for 30-fps, so much smoother judder-free video. Thank goodness more camera makers are dumping the ancient and obsolete 24-fps framerate of 1927 used for sound recording on celluloid film.
But you start to trade weight for performance and at that point why not go for the RF system, seeing as you are going into a price range that's obviously higher than this intended market? Mirrorless doesn't just mean more compact bodies, it also means great quality lenses that can be smaller. See for example Sony's new 35 1.4 and 20 1.8. Also Nikon's doing a great job with these.
One thing I would like to know: Does the M6 Mark II turn off the auto exposure bracketing (AEB) as soon as anything is inserted into the hot shoe (e.g. like the view finder seen in this video)? The M6 Mark I unfortunately does that, it has a tiny switch under one of the metal flaps inside the hot shoe mount. This makes it impossible to shoot AEB with even a simple trigger, like you can on the 6D and other Canons.
So the EOS M6 Mk2 has a UHS-II slot, differentiating it from cameras like the A6400 and GX9 that are stuck with an older UHS-I card interface. You mention that this Canon is slow to clear buffer, but is it as slow as the Sony?
@@niccollsvideo Thanks, Chris! Are you allowed to say if you're going to do a new generation midrange APS-C shootout between the M6ii, A6400, and X-T30?
Thanks a lot for a very detailed informative video. 😊 Have you tried with the EF-M 11-22mm f4-5.6 lens? Though smaller maximum aperture it usually gave very high quality images with 24 mega pixel sensors. Please also try the EF-M 22 mm f2 for real how it really perform with the new sensor.
I love the singing at the beginning - in a world overwhelmed by stupid pop melodies, it's good to hear an interesting line. Also agree with your statement, 24p video is awesome, gives the right look and better low light performance
A question for Jordan: For "4K" 30 fps, what kind of bitrates did you guys find (highest and typical)? Also, with Canon's announcement that 24fps will come in early next year, it will be interesting to see of "4K" 24 fps gives better files. I am looking forward to multi-camera "Crop Frame" comparisons.
BTW you can also connect EF lenses via a 3rd party focal reducer, which can make for some interesting focal length/aperture numbers (interesting for video too). IMHO Canon should make a first-party one. Oh and the World is short on zoom lenses that look as good as good primes, especially at kit lens prices. They should also turn out a higher-MP EVF option at some point - one of the advantages of it being modular. Provided they have the in-camera stuff to support that. It wouldn't suit me, but for a lot of people the approachability is good. Also worth a test with a 400/2.8 to see how much more detail you get than a 5Dsr/5DIV/etc... Way cheaper than getting a 600...
I noticed there is no mention of Electronic First Curtain Shutter usage....I need that info. Reason being, and THANK YOU for mentioning the shutter slap potential issue. It's actually a HUGE item to consider with these high megapixel bodies. I've been banging this drum for months since I've been experiencing odd focus issues with a new M50. My feeling is the body is just too light.
Han He The M6 Mk2 does in fact have EFCS. It's in one of these reviews around here (panning issues). Also, I saw it in action at photoplus. All good. The panning stuff sucks but it's better than only relying on the shutter. these bodies are no longer made of metal, so if your lenses is too light, it will be blurry pics everywhere. M50 suffers from this greatly
Great review - as a primarily Canon 5dMarkIV shooter, all I want is a decent alternative when I want to travel and not take a huge kit, so it looks like this camera with a 50mm equivalent prime would fit that niche perfectly.
Yes , it still looks excellent , every video with GH5 just looks amazing . But i suppose we should probably give some credit to the bloke/s behind the camera too ;) .
Nico Bien I don’t know why Fuji has been the o my lens maker to do this. Sony’s recent 16-55mm (a 15-52mm on Canon’s smaller 1.6X APS-C sensors) was 8 years late, a total surprise, lacking IS, and way overpriced-I don’t care how awesome it is... Sigma or Tamron should drop a new 16-55mm f/2.4 mirrorless zoom with IS, and make a killing with it...
It just means that you wont get the "full 32mp" out of the image. i mean you will get 32mp photo. but the lense would not be able to show all the sharpness details that the sensor is capable of. it doesnt mean that the lens gets worse, it just doesnt get much better than on other M bodies.
I have looked for an explanation as to why people like 24p over something mathematically simpler to use like 30p and I cannot find anything beyond "they use it for movies/broadcast." Can someone help me understand? I would think you'd get more detail and less blur with 30p. On top of that we aren't filming for movies OR broadcast anyway.
I am also thinking about getting that camera after the new firmware. I heard the new software has turned that camera into a great video cam. Watch Peter Forsgard, Red35 Photography and Kinotika's review on that.
A bit of a narrow topic, but I've got that camera so I'd love to hear what JD thinks of FW3.1 too. Especially if he has some tips for getting the most out of it - which, of course, he will.
Great! I've got a question. What kind of adapter do I have to use for M42 lenses? I tried a number of them. It says "No lens attached". On the flip side with 5D mark iii simplest adapters work no questions asked.
Would this be good for a beginner? I am deciding on this or the Sony a6400. I will most likely be doing photography more than video. Pics of the city life and animals.
About video quality: you said it doesn't hold a candle to the oversampled footage. I am interested how it compares to 5div and EOS R 4k detail. Lots of reviews were pointing out that those are less detailed than competitors and suffer from enormous RS but 4k on 5div looks astonishing to me, I don't need any more detail I can't see. If m6ii's 4k footage is anything like 4k coming out from 5div or eos r, I am sure me and most other buyers will be beyond satisfied. Also, M50's 4k, no matter how flawed, looks so much better than its 1080p, especially colors.
Regarding the shutter, would you say that this can be a problem with long time exposures? Is the EVF better than the M5? Great review, thanks for the impressions.
I don't get why people compare the EOS M series to much more expensive systems like the Fuji X when nothing about it is in the same price range. Yes the M6 Mk2 still lags behind in some aspects but at half the cost of a similar setups in Fuji/Sony that's hardly a comparison at all
@@toast1797 sure.. canon does have that advantage.. even if the M system doesn't have enough lenses, plenty of EF & EF-S lenses are available.. but adapter+large lenses add to the bulk..
This is a great review, except for all the whining about 24fps in the begining. This camera seems to be a great addition to the APS-C mirrorless line but I wish Canon had produced a M5 mark II (built-in EVF, same great dials, larger battery, etc) with the same specs as this camera instead. The only native lens that is sharp enough for the new sensor & resolution seems to be the 32mm f/1.4 but there will be EF-M prime lenses from Sigma in the market soon. I would love to see an EF-M 15-45mm f/2.8 (or at least f/2.8-f/4). For now, I think the M50 is the best cost/benefit out there.
I freaking love this camera, much more than sony apsc. Sony has a lot better lenses but the M6 MkII is way more fun to take photos with. And the 33mp makes a big difference
I have a m100, still rockin it to this day. Contemplating buying the 32mm lense. What does everyone think? I would rather keep the m100 body after seeing this video.
However finding alternative Glas for EF-M, EF-S and EF might be less a challenge than for the Fujifilm-X-Bajonett. With system native and cheaper 3rd party adapters available. Today many people switching to mirrorless like Canons R many awesome EF lens became available for a split of the price of new classes - a Canon L IS UMS II f2.8 goes for about $650 the initale price was close to $3000 and this lens is still one of the best zooms made in history of photography. While Sigma has pushed out many extreme excellent ef-mount primes through out the entire range from 20-135mm, redefining image quality and speed.
I use this camera as a second backup for stills on jobs.. (I shoot restaurants mainly.) I bought it as a lightweight video camera to throw on a gimbal. This review is dead right. The biggest issue is shooting RAW stills and that buffer filling up even with fast cards.. It also chews through all of my EF lenses (even my "L" zooms) I use it with the sigma trio and it works like a charm.. If you're a 90's kid think of it a bit like a TVR cerbera on gran turismo... Its flipping awesome for video though, especially on a gimbal with a third party flat profile. C-log would have been nice.. but for the size of the thing its a monster.
Releasing a brand new Body to a system wich isn´t supported with lenses from it´s own manufacturer for years. Canon, what where you thinking. Why are no lens announcements for the EOS-M? I left this system because the lack of lenses.
Great review Chris and Jordan. I was really interested in the M6 II, but the pricing and lack of native lenses capable of resolving for the sensor resolution really gives you pause. In Canada, it's $1,500 for the M6 II + EVF + 15-45 kit. That puts you within a hundred dollars of an EOS RP + EF to RF adapter + bonus battery. Now if you factor in the $630 CAD you need to for the 32 f1.4 to actually resolve for the M6 II's sensor, you're within $400 of the EOS RP + 24-240 + EF to RF + bonus battery kit. I know what I would take, even with the limitations of the RP.
@@snowwalker9999 err you can adapt EF glass and the RF glass will be *substantially* faster than most of the EF-M line up. Also the RF glass will be optically excellent, whereas most of the EF-M are good to adequate.
The way reviewers treat this issue...especially DxO...is a pet peeve of mine. Lenses do not "cap" sensors (or vice versa). Final resolution of an imaging system is always going to be less than the weakest component, but improving ANY component improves the final result. Note that this is not an opinion, it's scientifically demonstrated and the formula for computing it can be found online. What does this mean in the real world? In the case of a M6 II the final image using a 15-45 zoom may not be as good as when using, say, a Sigma ART lens. But it will be better than the 15-45 on the old M6. So if you were happy with prints from the old M6 and 15-45 you are not going to be disappointed with the same lens on this new camera.
Great video. Thanks. My A6400 is still within the return window. The sigma primes are massive except for the 56mm. Does the Canon M mount have better small primes than Sony. How does Sony 35 OSS compare with Canon 32 and the Sony 24 f1.8 vs Canon 22mm f2??? I just need those two focal lengths and need the camera to compact. Thanks.
In terms of sharpness and detail which one would you recommend me to buy, iPhone 12/13 Pro Max or Canon M6 Mark II? And my second question would be if Canon M6 Mark II can compete with iPhone 12/13 Pro Max in nnight and low light situations? Thanks in advance for your response.
Hey guys, now that Canon has relented, can you also nag DJI to include 24 fps on their more affordable drones like the Spark and Mavic Mini? Even if it's just 1080p, that would make these products so much more useful!
Nice camera (I have one), but I'm not finding the dial function to be an improvement over a dedicated exposure compensation dial on the M6. It would be less fiddly if you could cycle through its options via repeated presses on the button. And how come it you dedicate it in the menu to exposure compensation you have to press the button before turning the dial does anything? I find that a needless extra step. I do like that the EVF is removable and you can still use the first EVF that tilts up. And how come Chris always looks too lightly dressed for the weather?
Again it appears that only dpreview are saying this replaces both the M6 and the M5, yet Canon UK WILL NOT confirm this when asked... has anyone actual seen an official statement from Canon regarding this??
Just bought the canon M6 for $345 on ebay brand new. I know it's grey market but it's shipped/sold in the US with seller warranty and that crazy ebay + paypal two layers of return policies no questions asked that I've used countless times, giving free return shipping even for buyer's remorse purchases, and all items have been exactly as described. That versus the updated canon M6 mk II on pre-order for over twice the price at $850. Why did I not get the mk II even though it was so close to release? 1. Price. Duh. It's over twice the price. 2. Megapixels. I don't see the difference. If the extra 8-9 megapixel bump in resolution is actually there, then like the dpreview video mentions, neither native nor adapted EF lenses are sharp enough to resolve the extra detail. I can't even find the focus point in those flower shots. All these images (the full resolution jpegs from dpreview.com) look great zoomed out, but if it's gonna be this blurry even with the sharpest lenses available, I can probably make due with just 12 megapixels and not suffer much loss. 3. ISO noise performance. It hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better either. If they can achieve parity with their older sensor while increasing the pixel count, why can't they instead keep the older pixel count but increase the ISO performance? Because then they would actually be competitive with Sony in this department. Right now, anything over ISO 6400 looks like cellphone mush still. 4. If they are skipping lines for 4k and it looks only marginally sharper than 1080p, why bother with 4k at all? The filesizes and processing are exponentially higher for very little benefit. And the original M6 has 24p cough cough. 5. The dpreview video shows reduced tracking and autofocus accuracy at the highest drive modes, no autofocus at all for 120p recording, and a small buffer writing to the same slow SD card interface. There's a 30fps RAW burst mode that will lock up your camera if you don't time it properly, giving you only one or two chances. They all seem like crippled features designed more to embellish a spec sheet than to help you. If you are gonna set it to 5fps c-af anyway for the best balance of speed and accurate continuous shooting, why bother "upgrading" from the original M6? 6. Some might not care but the mk II is larger and heavier in every dimension, if only marginally. The original M6 and M100 with a 22mm pancake are borderline pocketable while having far better performance than APSC compacts like the Ricoh GR series or Fuji X70/XF10. They are basically the breaking point of pocketability for cameras, while having better image quality than 1" compacts (if worse versatility). A few millimeters and grams added here and there can make all the difference. The Sony A5100 is pocketable. The A6000 is not. And they just get bigger from there.
Sooo how do you like the M6 because I found a good sale too and now heavily considering it for my first mirrorless for both stills and TH-cam vids. It's not future proofed, lacking 4K capabilities but so far 1080P is more than enough for everyone watching on PC and phones and I will use it more often for photography. No EVF makes me nervous but the price with kit lens is so good right now, IF the camera is even better than its sale price. Please help...sale ends soon haha
Are there any reviews that you guys do, that don't contain more negatives than positives? Do you review for professional photographers or "happy snappers"? I've watched many reviews from you on here and I can't emember the last time I left your channel not looking for a seemingly "unbiased" report card.
Love you guys. You have taught me a great deal about photography and film making. I’m looking for the best mirrorless or dslr for around $1200 (body only) to record my nieces. One is a gymnast and the other does local community theater. I will be purchasing a 70-200mm f2.8 lens for whatever body I choose as well. I’m looking for eye autofocus that functions in 4k. Some have suggested Sony a6600 (I’m a little concerned about the rolling shutter) others have suggested Canon M6 Mark ii (some have said eye autofocus doesn’t work in 4k) Any help would be appreciated.
This is the reason I don't do camera reviews over on my channel (despite the requests) - DPReview videos are so brilliant that I couldn't compete! Nice work :-)
Maybe you could do a review of this camera with the speed booster and L lenses for us :)
Appreciate it! Love your lens reviews!
Best lens reviews on youtube!
Hey Christopher🤙🏽🤙🏽 so perfect to see a comment from my favorite lens reviewer on my favorite camera review channel!
Christopher do you know which lenses will use the full potential of the MP sensor for this camera? I'm thinking of the 35mm sigma art but open to recommendations
you guys are really taking the intro game to S1h level
Especially when Jordan crawl and cry like a baby on the ground. Honestly I don't really care about cameras, what I like to watch is these guys introducing gears.
That Canon M 32mm F1.4 is a gem! 😍
@@mikhailphoto31 lol
Lo es amigo. Tengo el 22, 28, 11-22, 55-200 y el 32. Y precisamente el 32 es el padre del resto de los lentes. El mejor !!
Jati Setiawan Not no, but heeeeelllll NO!!!👎
José Colón m.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-ef-m-32mm-f1-4-review/2
has abberation issues at 1.4. Thats eough to make it a no buy
Nice review guys and you beat me to it! I actually thought rolling shutter in video was pretty well controlled in my tests, but then I'd been using the A6400 previously. I also agree about the lenses - the 15-45mm is definitely not good enough, although i do like having that wider than average coverage at the short-end. x
Gordon Laing interested if the ef-s 10-18 would be good on this camera. Any thoughts?
I am thinking about replacing my 60D with this one
@@eddimaruyama it's cheaper than the EF-M 11-22mm, but obviously bigger especially with the adapter.
Gordon and Chris: What are your thoughts on how the EF-M 22mm will work with the new sensor?
doogieham Chris talked about this on the video. Resolving more than 24MP on an APS-C sensor is very difficult-and it’s perhaps the main reason APS-C has remained at 24MP for so long on so many cameras. Recently Fujifilm moved all the way up to 26MP, and Samsung swing for the fences with 28MP back in the day. I think 32 is overkill (almost as much as 80MP on FF will be).
Gordon Laing The rolling shutter should be better in video since Canon isn’t supersampling their footage from 6K to 4K, but is instead using good ol’ 2012-era line skipping, and it’s soft image quality. Also, 15mm on an EF-S sensor is like 16mm on other brands’ APS-C cameras (like Sony and Fuji, the latter of which *does* have a true 15mm zoom kit lens).
Great review. Your reviews look gorgeous and flow smoothly. How hard is it to make the review look like you are just talking about the product to a friend? I'd love to see a detailed behind-the-scenes video of your process in making these reviews.
For example, how do you outline the review? Do you write a script, pick bullet points or do the dialog off-the-cuff? Do you have a crew or is it just the two of you? On this partly indoor shoot, do you use lighting? What is post like. Who edits it?
Thanks for making these reviews such a pleasure to watch.
I'd love to do a BTS episode in the future!
After spending some time with the camera, we do a short bullet-point outline of information that needs to be covered, then Chris and I spend a meal arguing over what our opinions are. We rarely have a crew, except for our Wooden Niccolls episodes. We use small lights when necessary, either a LumaHawk Shadowless 300 Round LED, or an Aputure COB 300D.
Chris edits his Raw files, and sends them off to me, and I edit the episodes. Full length reviews are generally two days of post, and shorts are a day.
Hope this gives you a bit of insight into our process, thanks for the kind words!
Great review! I would love to hear/see a comparison from you between the M6 mkii and the M50, as one might argue that for instance the added resolution of the former is pointless until further developments on the lens front 😛
What a great review. I got the M6 Mk II in January 2020. I knew this would be the EF-M swan song, and I have no regrets. The final native lens, the 32mm is one of the best lenses ever made.
Are you have any other lenses better for m6 ii
One of the reasons I bought this camera is the ergonomics and ease of use you mentioned. Sony Alphas may have better video capabilities, but M6 Mark II seemed like a more complete and convenient option for me
I usually shoot with an EVF on my Olympus Pen E-PM1, and I love the fact that it tilts for low angle shots. I know most people wouldn't care much about it, but for a rangefinder style camera, I find it essential.
Yeah, tilting EVF is very nice indeed! Surely more fragile, but can be truly useful. I really like it for low angle shots (which itself is often quite refreshing change to usual), but also sometimes when working with a tripod. I go in weird angles with the ballhead and tilting EVF can save the day. Good stuff!
@@villemononen5303 Honestly, tilty/rotatable EVFs on hybrid mirrorless cameras should be a lot more common by now.
But the screen tilts...
Patrick Rose Canon made a tiltable EVF for the M series. I have it on my M6. I chose that over the newer non-tiltable one for low to the ground work.
Interestingly though, the Canon EVF-DC2 doesn’t have a tilt facility. The larger, earlier EVF-DC1 does and it is probably compatible (both units have been compatible with previous Canons that take an accessory EVF).
I love watching these two guys from the camera store as it was one of the first review channels I started to watch.
Superb review. Concise, clear, perceptive and you hit all the main points very honestly. Thanks!
about lenses: Sigma announced it will be releasing ef-m trio, most importantly 16mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.4, combined with EF-M 32mm f1.4 and ef-m 22mm f2 - efm prime lens offering will be great value. Fast zooms for the tiny m6 is overkill way too costly (r&d investment)- adapting existing ef-s alternatives through m mount adapter makes more sense (gonna be huge anyway).
aumrdoc I don’t think it’s overkill when you’ve sold tons and tons of S35 cinema cameras that also need a 16-55mm f/2.8 stabilizer lens also.
Loving the Breakfast Club fist bump at 1:53 👏✊
Ikr!
“Oh they’re nice they let us shoot here”
*Chris walks around the back and sits on a forklift like he owns the place* LOL
1:45 Definitely get the thumbs up for sneaking in that reference.
Great 32mpx, great iso performance, 14fps, best crop camera for stills is here, m6ii is in my shopping list
Great work as always guys. Nice to see you have not lost touch with your roots as well. It was nice to meet Jordan today in the store
Great review, guys. Interesting what you're saying about most of the current lenses not being up to the resolution of the sensor. Canon are finally getting their sensor & focusing games together. Their AF has been great for years, but needed some improvement.
The BSI stacked sensor with IBIS they have in development (they filed patents last year and again this year) will probably be amazing. They also filed a patent for quad-pixel AF.
Nice intro too! 🙂
Nice review as usual. That 32mm 1.4 lens looks great.
Btw, Chris with a camera strap is an interesting change. :) What brand is it?
This intro 😂😂Thank goodness the 24p is finally here!!
Awesome review! I just don't know why people would buy into a system that Canon obviously isn't committed to.
Mad English TV because not a lot of people watch all the reviews and rumors about the future of a system. They know canon they buy canon. Also if the consumers support the system I am confident canon will also do.
@The Oculist They are clearly aiming for everything RF, so I don't think so
@The Oculist Count the number of native lenses since the start of EF-M and RF. You'll get your answer. EF-M is deader than M43. Fact.
What's better to buy
@@professionalpotato4764 They didn't make more lenses because they figured most people who run this type of camera are not "professionals".
Aside from that, I am not sure why anyone cares about the number of lenses so much when there are good EF lenses you can adapt to this system.
The Canon 100mm F2.8 'L' macro works perfectly for me with the stupidly expensive adaptor. Yes, you are losing light, but just buy a good lighting system.
The EF-S lenses that they speak of ARE designed for crop sensor cameras, but are not as tack sharp, and this sensor NEEDS tack sharp.
Great I really love this camera I agree on what you pointed out on pros and cons, bought this camera after watching some reviews and this is the one of the videos that pushed me to buy this camera over other competition. I also made an unboxing on m6 mark ii and its great! Btw. 24 is now available!
This camera is in dire straits w/o 24p. Thanks for the review!
Yeah, and at this price you pay all the Money for Nothing!
Oh my god, maybe 12p or even 6p would be even "more cinematic"?
I predict 60p as the soon to come "bare minimum", and a standard. Gaming monitors have even 144 Hz refresh rate, because... slower frame rates are visible to human eyes.
Hey Jordan these young gits don't have a clue what you just did in that intro. Bless their hearts LOL
I was aware I'd be alienating a lot of viewers with that...
I got it and it was AWESOME
Yep. That song was banned on Canadian Radio in 2011.
@@hankroest6836 why??
@@Raychristofer Best not to say anything here. The facts can be seen - at least at the moment I write this - in Wikipedia under Money for Nothing - the song.
I'm going on 200 hours of camera reviews now and every single camera has serious drawbacks. None of the cameras are good unless you spend $5500. It's really depressing.
Very helpful review, even now in 2024 under consideration for a second-hand M6ii. Many thanks!
I think M6 mk2 I ideal camera for vlogging. Maybe you can try and test it how it compares to M50 for vlogging?
Ivan Savkov I think no matter what the lack of a crop gives the M6 II the win
The lack of a flip-out screen makes it a rather bad vlogging camera. The tilt screen it has is completely useless if you want to use a shoe-mounted external microphone and have it on a tripod.
You can simply use smallrig to mount mic on the left side.
@@АлексейНовиков-у6ф6б I have a very important question, please answer quickly with regard to the microphone. Is it possible to connect the microphone Rode to this camera or not compatible with it?
I want to use a wireless microphone
Thanks for your understanding
All I want is the perfect camera all I want is the perfect camera
Camera Conspiracies fan? Same here, man, same here. Where's the Canon hammer?
have u found one and which is it?
The review makes me very happy that I just bought an A6400. It comes the closest to ticking all the boxes for me, especially in terms of video capability.
I wish Canon would have kept the 24MP sensor and instead focused on some of the deficiencies highlighted in this video. I really like using Canon cameras, but as @CameraConspiracies would say, the Canon Cripple Hammer is in full swing here.
how is menus and ergonomics on ur a6400 :)?
I still want to see an M5 MK II. Give it the same sensor/processor as on this one, built in EVF and joystick of the MK I, fully articulated screen and weather sealing comparable to the x0D line. Then just have to wait for the lenses to catch up.
Interesting review! Excluding the kit lens, I never would have considered lenses not being up to the task. I'm using Canon's ef adapter on my M50 and don't care for the wiggle in the mount.
We need a flat-shaded polygon version of Jordan and Chris NOW!
Can someone get on this, please?
@@thatjordandrake 😍
Every EF and EFS Lens I tested on the Canon EOS 6M mark 2 is sharper than the lenses that come with this camera. So I advise everybody to buy the original canon adapter and use your old lenses. You will get way better images with less grain. Regarding the IS, the kittens has build in IS, but you have to turn the IS in the camera menu to on too for filming.
What about sigma 16mm and 56mm
I referenced your review on my video "Movie Making Cameras from $600 to $1,000 Part ll in 2020". Thanks for your review!
@DPReview Thank you for 30-fps, so much smoother judder-free video. Thank goodness more camera makers are dumping the ancient and obsolete 24-fps framerate of 1927 used for sound recording on celluloid film.
The best intro so far 😂👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
There are lots of APSC EF lenses from Canon and Sigma. I don't see a problem with using the adapter.
But you start to trade weight for performance and at that point why not go for the RF system, seeing as you are going into a price range that's obviously higher than this intended market? Mirrorless doesn't just mean more compact bodies, it also means great quality lenses that can be smaller. See for example Sony's new 35 1.4 and 20 1.8. Also Nikon's doing a great job with these.
Mark Knopfler would be proud of you.
I really doubt it.
Sting sung that part... he might be proud. Maybe he has lower standards...
The drumming impressed me even more than the singing.
Hank Roest That’s good, because I’d call myself a drummer but never call myself a singer.
Great review
dang, that lady at 10:39 looked like a robot
One thing I would like to know: Does the M6 Mark II turn off the auto exposure bracketing (AEB) as soon as anything is inserted into the hot shoe (e.g. like the view finder seen in this video)? The M6 Mark I unfortunately does that, it has a tiny switch under one of the metal flaps inside the hot shoe mount. This makes it impossible to shoot AEB with even a simple trigger, like you can on the 6D and other Canons.
So the EOS M6 Mk2 has a UHS-II slot, differentiating it from cameras like the A6400 and GX9 that are stuck with an older UHS-I card interface. You mention that this Canon is slow to clear buffer, but is it as slow as the Sony?
Nothing is as slow as the Sony. To be fair to Canon we are also dealing with larger files too.
@@niccollsvideo Thanks, Chris! Are you allowed to say if you're going to do a new generation midrange APS-C shootout between the M6ii, A6400, and X-T30?
Loved this location for the review...
That intro took me to a different place 😁
8:05 Loved the "patience" joke. And the shot. And the drums at 0:14!
Thanks a lot for a very detailed informative video. 😊 Have you tried with the EF-M 11-22mm f4-5.6 lens? Though smaller maximum aperture it usually gave very high quality images with 24 mega pixel sensors. Please also try the EF-M 22 mm f2 for real how it really perform with the new sensor.
I love the singing at the beginning - in a world overwhelmed by stupid pop melodies, it's good to hear an interesting line. Also agree with your statement, 24p video is awesome, gives the right look and better low light performance
A question for Jordan: For "4K" 30 fps, what kind of bitrates did you guys find (highest and typical)? Also, with Canon's announcement that 24fps will come in early next year, it will be interesting to see of "4K" 24 fps gives better files. I am looking forward to multi-camera "Crop Frame" comparisons.
What camera is used to film the review/ speaking portion?
BTW you can also connect EF lenses via a 3rd party focal reducer, which can make for some interesting focal length/aperture numbers (interesting for video too). IMHO Canon should make a first-party one.
Oh and the World is short on zoom lenses that look as good as good primes, especially at kit lens prices.
They should also turn out a higher-MP EVF option at some point - one of the advantages of it being modular. Provided they have the in-camera stuff to support that.
It wouldn't suit me, but for a lot of people the approachability is good.
Also worth a test with a 400/2.8 to see how much more detail you get than a 5Dsr/5DIV/etc... Way cheaper than getting a 600...
I noticed there is no mention of Electronic First Curtain Shutter usage....I need that info. Reason being, and THANK YOU for mentioning the shutter slap potential issue. It's actually a HUGE item to consider with these high megapixel bodies.
I've been banging this drum for months since I've been experiencing odd focus issues with a new M50. My feeling is the body is just too light.
It doesn't have EFCS. The 90D has. I will do a test this weekend to see how bad the shutter slap could be. Both hand hold and on a heavy tripod.
Han He The M6 Mk2 does in fact have EFCS. It's in one of these reviews around here (panning issues). Also, I saw it in action at photoplus. All good. The panning stuff sucks but it's better than only relying on the shutter. these bodies are no longer made of metal, so if your lenses is too light, it will be blurry pics everywhere. M50 suffers from this greatly
Great review - as a primarily Canon 5dMarkIV shooter, all I want is a decent alternative when I want to travel and not take a huge kit, so it looks like this camera with a 50mm equivalent prime would fit that niche perfectly.
Apart from the dire song, what was the strap used with the M6ii? Great review btw.
Nice reviews guys, like the way you guys do it!
I give props to the GH5... it’s what, over 2.5 years old, the video quality here is still pretty good and so are the colors.
Yes , it still looks excellent , every video with GH5 just looks amazing .
But i suppose we should probably give some credit to the bloke/s behind the camera too ;) .
everyone says it can't focus so I didn't buy it.
mikldude agree the content and operator make a big difference.
Allan Sh I’ve enjoyed my GH5 so far, I think quite a few TH-cam people use the GH5
Shoutout to GH3 also. Nice 1080p, cheap and reliable. Case in point -> th-cam.com/video/gDhVLdNHIYo/w-d-xo.html
Mind if I ask where you found that leather camera strap?
Finally, most awaited video
"Just let us know and we'll be happy to claim the prize for you"🤣🤣
Your intros are hilarious keep it up. I’m using the Canon M50 I want to upgrade mainly for 4K video. What would you recommend this or the 90D? Thanks!
1:48. Epic move there. Love that movie
when the full review of 90D is coming ?
Time for canon to release a 17-55 f2.8 ef-m version :)
zoltan4113 both IS. I don't mind having an 85mm F1.4 also
@goollink You forgot the built-in 1.4x TC.
Nico Bien I don’t know why Fuji has been the o my lens maker to do this. Sony’s recent 16-55mm (a 15-52mm on Canon’s smaller 1.6X APS-C sensors) was 8 years late, a total surprise, lacking IS, and way overpriced-I don’t care how awesome it is...
Sigma or Tamron should drop a new 16-55mm f/2.4 mirrorless zoom with IS, and make a killing with it...
@goollink And a small crane to carry it :D
Canon has a 15-45 f2.8 on their apsc g1xm3 that's only 1 inch wide. They have the technology but are not aware of what their customers want.
What does it mean for a lens to be able to handle the resolution?
It just means that you wont get the "full 32mp" out of the image. i mean you will get 32mp photo. but the lense would not be able to show all the sharpness details that the sensor is capable of. it doesnt mean that the lens gets worse, it just doesnt get much better than on other M bodies.
check out DxOmark page where it shows you the specs on cameras and lenses and what you can expect to get out of each combo.
I have looked for an explanation as to why people like 24p over something mathematically simpler to use like 30p and I cannot find anything beyond "they use it for movies/broadcast." Can someone help me understand? I would think you'd get more detail and less blur with 30p. On top of that we aren't filming for movies OR broadcast anyway.
LOL the intro.
Can we get a Jordan video focused review of the omd em1 mk2 after the 3.1 firmware adding phase detect af to the video?
I am also thinking about getting that camera after the new firmware. I heard the new software has turned that camera into a great video cam. Watch Peter Forsgard, Red35 Photography and Kinotika's review on that.
A bit of a narrow topic, but I've got that camera so I'd love to hear what JD thinks of FW3.1 too. Especially if he has some tips for getting the most out of it - which, of course, he will.
at 1:35 iso 2000, still looks awesome
inter milan I think that's jpeg bro
lots of light there though. noise doesn't really happen in these conditions
Great! I've got a question. What kind of adapter do I have to use for M42 lenses? I tried a number of them. It says "No lens attached". On the flip side with 5D mark iii simplest adapters work no questions asked.
Would this be good for a beginner? I am deciding on this or the Sony a6400. I will most likely be doing photography more than video. Pics of the city life and animals.
About video quality: you said it doesn't hold a candle to the oversampled footage. I am interested how it compares to 5div and EOS R 4k detail. Lots of reviews were pointing out that those are less detailed than competitors and suffer from enormous RS but 4k on 5div looks astonishing to me, I don't need any more detail I can't see. If m6ii's 4k footage is anything like 4k coming out from 5div or eos r, I am sure me and most other buyers will be beyond satisfied. Also, M50's 4k, no matter how flawed, looks so much better than its 1080p, especially colors.
Thanks for the review. I was seriously about to buy this but now thinking the video isn't quite there.
Dpreview, it would be nice if you could show 1080p video quality.
Love that strap. Care to share who made it?
Also curious who makes the strap. Looks nice.
Regarding the shutter, would you say that this can be a problem with long time exposures? Is the EVF better than the M5? Great review, thanks for the impressions.
24p is on its way to the 90d, RP, and the M6 II
I don't get why people compare the EOS M series to much more expensive systems like the Fuji X when nothing about it is in the same price range. Yes the M6 Mk2 still lags behind in some aspects but at half the cost of a similar setups in Fuji/Sony that's hardly a comparison at all
X-T30 is at the same price range as m6 mk2 🤔
@@Ra-Hul-K sure, how about the lenses?
@@toast1797 sure.. canon does have that advantage.. even if the M system doesn't have enough lenses, plenty of EF & EF-S lenses are available.. but adapter+large lenses add to the bulk..
This is a great review, except for all the whining about 24fps in the begining. This camera seems to be a great addition to the APS-C mirrorless line but I wish Canon had produced a M5 mark II (built-in EVF, same great dials, larger battery, etc) with the same specs as this camera instead. The only native lens that is sharp enough for the new sensor & resolution seems to be the 32mm f/1.4 but there will be EF-M prime lenses from Sigma in the market soon. I would love to see an EF-M 15-45mm f/2.8 (or at least f/2.8-f/4). For now, I think the M50 is the best cost/benefit out there.
I freaking love this camera, much more than sony apsc. Sony has a lot better lenses but the M6 MkII is way more fun to take photos with. And the 33mp makes a big difference
I have a m100, still rockin it to this day. Contemplating buying the 32mm lense. What does everyone think? I would rather keep the m100 body after seeing this video.
However finding alternative Glas for EF-M, EF-S and EF might be less a challenge than for the Fujifilm-X-Bajonett. With system native and cheaper 3rd party adapters available. Today many people switching to mirrorless like Canons R many awesome EF lens became available for a split of the price of new classes - a Canon L IS UMS II f2.8 goes for about $650 the initale price was close to $3000 and this lens is still one of the best zooms made in history of photography. While Sigma has pushed out many extreme excellent ef-mount primes through out the entire range from 20-135mm, redefining image quality and speed.
EOS M6 Mark II 24p will be back starting 2020 with a Firmware Update !!
I use this camera as a second backup for stills on jobs.. (I shoot restaurants mainly.) I bought it as a lightweight video camera to throw on a gimbal. This review is dead right. The biggest issue is shooting RAW stills and that buffer filling up even with fast cards.. It also chews through all of my EF lenses (even my "L" zooms) I use it with the sigma trio and it works like a charm.. If you're a 90's kid think of it a bit like a TVR cerbera on gran turismo... Its flipping awesome for video though, especially on a gimbal with a third party flat profile. C-log would have been nice.. but for the size of the thing its a monster.
This camera has been shown to experience shutter shock. The 15-45 is one of the lenses impacted, probably partly why you got subpar results with it.
Releasing a brand new Body to a system wich isn´t supported with lenses from it´s own manufacturer for years. Canon, what where you thinking. Why are no lens announcements for the EOS-M?
I left this system because the lack of lenses.
Maybe canon is making new M lenses too. It just doesn't make sense. T
What do you mean the lens can't handle the sensors resolution?
Great review Chris and Jordan. I was really interested in the M6 II, but the pricing and lack of native lenses capable of resolving for the sensor resolution really gives you pause. In Canada, it's $1,500 for the M6 II + EVF + 15-45 kit. That puts you within a hundred dollars of an EOS RP + EF to RF adapter + bonus battery. Now if you factor in the $630 CAD you need to for the 32 f1.4 to actually resolve for the M6 II's sensor, you're within $400 of the EOS RP + 24-240 + EF to RF + bonus battery kit. I know what I would take, even with the limitations of the RP.
Lenses for the RP will cost you eight times more and the only advantage RP would have over the M6 MK ii would be the full-frame sensor.
@@snowwalker9999 err you can adapt EF glass and the RF glass will be *substantially* faster than most of the EF-M line up. Also the RF glass will be optically excellent, whereas most of the EF-M are good to adequate.
@@ryankwan1934 I know they are way better than ef-m glass but I just thought your concern was the cost.
Which lenses are ideal for the resolution aside from the Canon 32mm f1.4? I don't want to bother with an adapter.
I am thinking to pair the eos m6 Ii with
Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 Lens for Canon EF. Yes you need an adapter.
According to the review, M6 mk II has a lot of great features. They look a bit overkill for me. I'm looking forward to watch Fujifim X-A7 review. 😛
In DXO lens there is review that they tell how many megapixel of max certain lens capability.
The way reviewers treat this issue...especially DxO...is a pet peeve of mine. Lenses do not "cap" sensors (or vice versa). Final resolution of an imaging system is always going to be less than the weakest component, but improving ANY component improves the final result. Note that this is not an opinion, it's scientifically demonstrated and the formula for computing it can be found online.
What does this mean in the real world? In the case of a M6 II the final image using a 15-45 zoom may not be as good as when using, say, a Sigma ART lens. But it will be better than the 15-45 on the old M6. So if you were happy with prints from the old M6 and 15-45 you are not going to be disappointed with the same lens on this new camera.
Would you choose this over the g7x mark iii for concerts and low light? What about the panasonic gh5 for photos at concerts?!
Great video. Thanks.
My A6400 is still within the return window. The sigma primes are massive except for the 56mm. Does the Canon M mount have better small primes than Sony. How does Sony 35 OSS compare with Canon 32 and the Sony 24 f1.8 vs Canon 22mm f2???
I just need those two focal lengths and need the camera to compact.
Thanks.
In terms of sharpness and detail which one would you recommend me to buy, iPhone 12/13 Pro Max or Canon M6 Mark II? And my second question would be if Canon M6 Mark II can compete with iPhone 12/13 Pro Max in nnight and low light situations? Thanks in advance for your response.
Hey guys, now that Canon has relented, can you also nag DJI to include 24 fps on their more affordable drones like the Spark and Mavic Mini? Even if it's just 1080p, that would make these products so much more useful!
Nice camera (I have one), but I'm not finding the dial function to be an improvement over a dedicated exposure compensation dial on the M6. It would be less fiddly if you could cycle through its options via repeated presses on the button. And how come it you dedicate it in the menu to exposure compensation you have to press the button before turning the dial does anything? I find that a needless extra step. I do like that the EVF is removable and you can still use the first EVF that tilts up. And how come Chris always looks too lightly dressed for the weather?
Again it appears that only dpreview are saying this replaces both the M6 and the M5, yet Canon UK WILL NOT confirm this when asked... has anyone actual seen an official statement from Canon regarding this??
Still hoping for an M6 Mark II here.... Or maybe have the M50 move up the product line up for it's Mark II version.
Just bought the canon M6 for $345 on ebay brand new. I know it's grey market but it's shipped/sold in the US with seller warranty and that crazy ebay + paypal two layers of return policies no questions asked that I've used countless times, giving free return shipping even for buyer's remorse purchases, and all items have been exactly as described.
That versus the updated canon M6 mk II on pre-order for over twice the price at $850.
Why did I not get the mk II even though it was so close to release?
1. Price. Duh. It's over twice the price.
2. Megapixels. I don't see the difference. If the extra 8-9 megapixel bump in resolution is actually there, then like the dpreview video mentions, neither native nor adapted EF lenses are sharp enough to resolve the extra detail. I can't even find the focus point in those flower shots. All these images (the full resolution jpegs from dpreview.com) look great zoomed out, but if it's gonna be this blurry even with the sharpest lenses available, I can probably make due with just 12 megapixels and not suffer much loss.
3. ISO noise performance. It hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better either. If they can achieve parity with their older sensor while increasing the pixel count, why can't they instead keep the older pixel count but increase the ISO performance? Because then they would actually be competitive with Sony in this department. Right now, anything over ISO 6400 looks like cellphone mush still.
4. If they are skipping lines for 4k and it looks only marginally sharper than 1080p, why bother with 4k at all? The filesizes and processing are exponentially higher for very little benefit. And the original M6 has 24p cough cough.
5. The dpreview video shows reduced tracking and autofocus accuracy at the highest drive modes, no autofocus at all for 120p recording, and a small buffer writing to the same slow SD card interface. There's a 30fps RAW burst mode that will lock up your camera if you don't time it properly, giving you only one or two chances. They all seem like crippled features designed more to embellish a spec sheet than to help you. If you are gonna set it to 5fps c-af anyway for the best balance of speed and accurate continuous shooting, why bother "upgrading" from the original M6?
6. Some might not care but the mk II is larger and heavier in every dimension, if only marginally. The original M6 and M100 with a 22mm pancake are borderline pocketable while having far better performance than APSC compacts like the Ricoh GR series or Fuji X70/XF10. They are basically the breaking point of pocketability for cameras, while having better image quality than 1" compacts (if worse versatility). A few millimeters and grams added here and there can make all the difference. The Sony A5100 is pocketable. The A6000 is not. And they just get bigger from there.
Sooo how do you like the M6 because I found a good sale too and now heavily considering it for my first mirrorless for both stills and TH-cam vids. It's not future proofed, lacking 4K capabilities but so far 1080P is more than enough for everyone watching on PC and phones and I will use it more often for photography. No EVF makes me nervous but the price with kit lens is so good right now, IF the camera is even better than its sale price. Please help...sale ends soon haha
Thanks for this review. I don't know about that 24p as i am shooting in 60 and 30p and it's not a problem for me
Excellent intro throwback.
Are there any reviews that you guys do, that don't contain more negatives than positives? Do you review for professional photographers or "happy snappers"? I've watched many reviews from you on here and I can't emember the last time I left your channel not looking for a seemingly "unbiased" report card.
Love you guys. You have taught me a great deal about photography and film making. I’m looking for the best mirrorless or dslr for around $1200 (body only) to record my nieces. One is a gymnast and the other does local community theater. I will be purchasing a 70-200mm f2.8 lens for whatever body I choose as well. I’m looking for eye autofocus that functions in 4k. Some have suggested Sony a6600 (I’m a little concerned about the rolling shutter) others have suggested Canon M6 Mark ii (some have said eye autofocus doesn’t work in 4k) Any help would be appreciated.