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Yes, it sometimes CAN be. The script for Jaws had to rewritten during filming because of technical errors causing delays ('The Shark isn't working"). Iron Man started filming with only an outline and it kicked off the MCU.And some films today have 'reshoots' which can alter scenes or ,in some cases, change the entire course of the film. for better or for worse.Most of time, it winds up being better.
"You don't understand, we have to go on with the script, we can't change a thing. Can you tell the director to stop, it's a very very bad idea." "Uh, Mr director. Can you please stop, it's a bad idea" "what?!" "He said it's a bad idea!" "What's a bad idea?!"
Stefan Negrao It makes since that they changed it though. In the video, it's explained that the location of the embryotic lab was changed mid-shoot because it was originally going to depict the same building from the scene from Lost World where Ian is attacked in the truck outside the communications building. There are a couple videos that try to tie the two scenes together simply by this truck that they believe to be in both shots. Even with the evidence in favor of that theory, there are easy signs that can help rule that out. The vehicle Ian is attacked in was an International Scout and the SUV Alan Grant and his group walk past in JP3 is a Chevrolet or GMC Suburban. The 2 extra doors help with identifying between the two. Also, all the windows in the Suburban are busted out, not just the single one destroyed by the raptor. Plus the walk from the gate to the entrance is much longer and more open than in LW. So it probably was a good idea that they changed it. Had they not, there would be tons of people like me who notice those little inconsistencies flooding the comments with these very same points. Lol
I find it weird that jp3 is considered the worst out of the series but for me anyway jp3 has the most interesting history out of the rest of the movies
It’s also the only Jurassic Park film where none of the human characters on the island represent anyone with ulterior motives regarding the dinosaurs (Billy did steal the raptor eggs, but that was opportunistic rather than pre-meditated). No InGen scientists trying to get their hands on old experiments or anything that could lead to exposition on the purpose of the labs or any notable experiments that took place. Alan and the Kirby’s, by the end of the film, don’t appear to want any answers so are unlikely to seek them anyway.
While I can understand why people don't like the movie--Klayton included--I still, on the other, don't think it deserves all the hate it receives. Now, is it perfect? Absolutely not. But at the same time, some of the things that are criticized are just minor for the overall experience of the movie; and yes, that does included the Spino vs. Rex battle. This was the first movie in the franchise to have a completely new dinosaur "steal the screen" and really started what became Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom. I do agree with how you view it, especially since this is the first, real time that we see/hear of Ingen creating brand-new dinosaurs WITHOUT the public's knowledge. Grant and Billy even bring this up. Again, the movie isn't perfect by any means but it still has its moments and is still very entertaining in the end. Once you look past the flaws, you'll have a wild ride.
Honestly they should've made JP3 focus more on this lab. It would have been so much more interesting of a film if they touched on the mysteries of the lab and the failed INGEN cloning experiments.
Well Alan did remark that this wasn't how you made dinosaurs, this was how you played God. Maybe he recognized that the "Spinosaurus" that attacked them was not a true Spinosaurus, especially since Billy noticed that it had a Suchiomimus like snout. Being a paleontologist he would be able to recognize the mix of features on a single animal easily. As an intelligent and fairly pragmatic individual, he probably decided to keep the information to himself, so as to not panic the Kirby's and Mr. Udesky that the big animal that was attacking them was an unnatural creation that was never meant to exist. Billy probably figured it out too. This is all just my $.02, but that is what I think.
cynical_misanthropic_nihilist Spinosaurus did exist though, and really was bigger than T-Rex, was semi-aquatic with a long snout for catching fish, closely related to Baryonix. It pretty much was exactly how the film portrays it, except it probably wouldn’t have hunted the humans like that and would have stayed closer to the water. I keep hearing people say it’s a modified hybrid but I don’t think it is. Was that established in canon? Because as far as I know, it was pretty close to reality
@@BalrogofMorgoth95 nah, the dinosaur in JP3 was COMPLETELY inaccurate. I’m not talking about the little details here, I mean it was basically a completely different dinosaur. For one, spinosaurus was mostly quadrupedal, only standing on two legs occasionally. It was more close in appearance to a giant crocodile with a sail than any large theropod. It mostly just ate fish, and its jaws were quite weak, being so long and thin. A tyrannosaurus could easily take it down, just due to the fact that it wasn’t adapted to a fully terrestrial life. The dinosaur JP3 has acts and looks more like an Indominus type hybrid than a real spinosaurus. Edit: spinosaurus was NOT a quadruped, I was wrong. It just has really short legs. It still would have looked like a theropod, just a really, REALLY weird one. The thing that was so terrible about JP3’s spino is its behaviors. It manages to somehow murder a T. rex, with its weak jaws, it is barely shown to be aquatic at ALL, it has no actual motivation for trying to hunt down a bunch of humans, when every other dinosaur did. The JP1 T. rex was more curious, JP2 had the baby T. rex plot, heck, even the JP3 RAPTORS just wanted to get their eggs back. The spino was just acting like a mindless movie monster.
Maybe the super smart quilled raptors we see in JP3 were created there too, the next iteration along from the tiger striped/brown varieties from the first two. Maybe that's why they lived around the complex; they were born there...
IndoFilm484 Those are the most intelligent raptors in the series (possibly, Blue kinda skirts the line). It makes sense that Wu would go overboard and create talking, trap setting Velociraptors when given 0 restrictions.
That makes sense... that's why all the new, intelligent predators in jp3 have blue stripes, just like blue in JW - they were part of a new project. Also, the indoraptor has those gold stripes.
I always would like to see this place before it was abandoned I would of liked to see geneticist/workers working in the laboratory and maybe even see them raise infant dinosaurs and maybe even see the dinosaurs in the pens.
Even though JP3 is my least favorite, it does have a lot of lore and speculation to it that the other films don't. That's one thing I've always loved about it.
Yeah I actually liked this film the least when I began re-watching all of the movies in the series, mainly because of all of the potential this movie had to be great and how it fell flat in many areas. However, there's just so many unexplored mysteries and lore pieces that appeared in this movie that are hard to ignore that make it a very interesting movie overall.
I'm not sure that that second dinosaur embryo was a T-Rex. Its head looked like it had ridges above its eyes. To me at least, it looked more like a prototype Allosaurus. Maybe InGen was working on making Allosaurus their next unlisted dinosaur?
Sam Rosania my theory is that it's a lab right? They were making dinosaurs but experimenting and maybe trying to build a brand new species just like in jurassic world when they made a new species the adominus rex
@@changechannels ah like that. I can definitely see it then. But personally I think when making jp3 the producers didn't plan ahead at all given how much of a mess it is. Still good point
The first dinosaurs I always thought it was an Edmontosaurus, maybe a Maiasura. The last one could be a Spinosaurus, but the spines didn't look long enough. Could be a Suchomimus.
"the spines don't look long enough". It's a fetus, man, it's not meant to look fully developed. Adolescents of any species, even post birth or hatching, are different from adults. With that being said, I'd find it hard to believe that a spinosaurus aegypticus hatched out of an egg with a fully proportionate sail. It most likely would've been a small hump at birth, and then developed to be more profound into adulthood.
Something missed right at the 1 min mark: "This is where all of their dinosaurs would be cloned, hatched, taken care of- AND taught how to execute confusing jump scares... before they were shipped over to Isla Nublar..."
I really think there could be a great prequel, for that lab itself that could focus more on doctor Wu’s work and what happened there that caused the lab’s demise.
Seeing those in the dinos in the tubes gave me chills back in the day n a hint hint wink wink to maybe the Irex n Iraptor r not the first hybrid dinosaur.
Cyber Dino where already done before JP. It's was called Dino Rider a cartoon series from 90s where the good guys use a medallion to talk n control Dino while the bad guys use a mind control helmet. Once both sides got there Dino armor n equip with multiple lasers guns they rush into battle. To bad both sides don't lose anybody it's lasers beams just spamming ur screen n that it but at least there way of controlling Dino was way better than fallen kingdom.
I remember in the beginning of Jurassic Park 3, one of the guys with the parasailing group spotted a plane LEAVING the island using binoculars. After the part when the red words "RESTRICTED" appear under the camera's view of Isla Sorna, the camera pans up to catch a glimpse of a plane flying away from the island, and one of the guys on the boat with Ben and Eric spotted that plane through his binoculars. What were the people on that departing plane doing on Isla Sorna eight weeks before Dr. Grant and the other survivors arrived to find Eric?
Don't think it was a plane flying off from the island but some kind of patrol but also it is too big for to be the one so perhaps it could be military transport with Wu and research about Spino and hybrids from that laboratory? And by the way even eight months in wild jungle could be enough to retake place by nature ;)
LupusUnleashed That was no patrol plane, it looked like a small transport plane. If patrols flew around the island freauently, why weren't the parasailing team caught?
I don't know how because I've seen all the JP films to an almost spergy level, but I've never given any notice to that plane. Seems like it was there for a reason, and surely one other than the disastrous production problems.
it could have been that the embryo tanks weren't from Wu, but instead as part of the genetic process. my first theory is that the embryo tanks were originally the intended production method of dinos, and that it was only after a string of failed clones that the scientists may have realized that the tanks were not especially conducive to the cloning process, turning to the ostrich & emu eggs (or to the advanced bird egg mimicking plastic from the first book). The next theory, which isn't actually incompatible with the above, is that the tanks were a safe-gaurd against flaws in the cloning process once embryos were committed to growth. A process as complex as cloning an extinct organism would likely be fraught with pitfalls, like DNA being corrupted from being inside a bug entombed in amber for millions of years, and of course genetic discrepancies like disease and natural malformation that occurs even in nature. and then there's the likelihood of DNA from the mosquito being sequenced into a dinosaur, creating an unholy fusion between, say, velociraptor and mosquito (funny that goldbloom pops up in my mind when i think of DNA spliced between something and an insect. help meee!!!). but getting back on point, the embryo tanks may have been a tactical investment, a test of the DNA with a single dinosaur before committing to an entire clutch of eggs, just in case the DNA had genetic defects like a predisposition towards cancer or the like, which would endanger the profit of the animals produced by causing them to be hideously deformed or having a genetic disease that would greatly reduce the animal's life span and exploitability. on a side note, I've always found it funny how the PETA angle of Jurassic park wasn't considered until Jurassic world, and how Crichton never expounded on it too heavily in the books. (so far, i'm 187 pages into the lost world at the time of typing) I guess it's because he was more interested in the scientific aspects, including the warning of tampering with nature and genetic power. but still, the humans only ever seem to see the dinosaurs as objects. oh sure there were a couple lines about them being living breathing things, but that angle was only ever used to bolster the idea of "You can't control these creatures just because you made them." and never used to say "These creatures are LIVING creatures, with emotions and drives, and you need to treat them humanely." but then perhaps that's just part of the narrative, that nobody considers how these creatures feel. or how they are treated. allot of people today don't consider that, or think about how animals are not actually, in fact, lesser than us, that we are only just adapted in different ways. But i should stop, I've gone and exposed my bleeding heart... But yeah, TLDR: maybe the tanks were A) a relic of the early cloning process which fell out of favor with ingen, or B) a failsafe to maximize profit and minimize risk. OR C) both!
Thanks for going over this! I really hope we get more information about Sorna’s dark past in the upcoming film. As a side JPIII note, the scene in the very beginning where Grant is talking to the press about his recent findings, and the majority are looking instead for answers to what went on at Jurassic Park and in San Diego is a really great continuation piece that I really enjoyed, as it shows that the public is lost after being exposed to Dino’s for the first time. Just throwing it out there!
@bigevilworldwide1 technically it is because this spinosaurus is too aggressive, but I don't blame it because this one has an excuse. This soino was abused and experimented on hence why it went after the humans due to its traumatic experience.
The communications building set from the lost world still exists on the back lot near the war of the worlds plane crash set but im not sure about the lab set
JP 3 is my least favourite of the franchise BUT I would love to see an extra movie that actually is a sort of spinoff movie. Like the secrets of Doctor wu and Ingen and Masrani. Might be an interesting idea to create. Jurassic Park secrets and it’s unknown dinosaurs
Klayton whenever I eat breakfast or lunch I always pop on your recent videos if I can, they’re so entertaining and it’s so fun to learn about the JP/JW universe, I was always a fan of the movies and actually had no idea that there were books and even more in depth stories of the characters and such, I’m just amazed! Thank you for your time spent on your videos and on your channel as a whole, keep up the good work man we’re loving it.
What if this embryonic lab was the location of Wu’s first attempts at creating what specialized hybrid dinosaurs like the Indominus Rex and Indoraptor, which would explain why the fetuses do not resemble actually dinosaurs but instead seem to exhibit traits of multiple different species, and we know that Wu seems to have a sort of fascination with creating such things from his justification for creating the I-Rex in Jurassic World when he says the word monster is nothing but a relative term
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This place literally haunts my dreams since I was 9 and saw it for the first time. That sickly green glass, these embryos, raptor chase. For me it is hands down best scene from JP3 and one of the best horror scenes of the movies. There is something to it that makes even a grown 20 year old man unease. To be fair, Jurassic Park is responsible for like 90% of my nightmares, most of them about raptors.
The I-Rex was designed to make a quick buck after tourism started to drop so it’s possible Wu took old designs for the I-Rex he was working on whilst on Site-B and said “I just thought this up why not try this”
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I always loved JP3 more than the Lost World movie. Mostly because I liked the introduction of the Spinosaurus, the overall horror vibe from the dinosaurs hunting the people and the Lost World's San Diego scene was too much of a joke.
i ABSOLUTELY love your videos i always felt like the jps franchise had a deep dark and twisted behind the scenes lore and you really answer a lot of my questions couple that with the way you illustrate your videos with stills and creepy concept art it makes your channel the definitive jurassic park lore encyclopedia in my book congratulations
Personally, I believe the “T-Rex” embryo to actually be an Allosaurus! Note the triangular shapes on the head, above the eyes like an Allosaurus: also, the head shape in general is 1. Similar to an actual Allosaurus, and 2. Similar to the Fallen Kingdom Allosaurus For the Hadrosaur type embryo, I believe it is a prototype Corythosaurus.
I recently subscribed and I’m watching your videos and absolutely loved them all. For this video, i remember Owen, from the first Jurassic World, saying “what kind of dinosaurs they cooked up in that lab”.
Hey man, Jurassic Park 3 is what introduced me to the franchise so I kind of have a nostalgic attachments to it. JP3 along with Godzilla 1998 and Spiderman 2002 are the first movies that I remember watching and I have nostalgia memories of.
Dude... I just spent 5-10 minutes looking for Part 1 and Part 2 for this video... Then realized that it says *"Park 3".* Ok...guess I'll watch it now...
Hey Klayton i am a huge fan of your Channel from Germany. I would love to see a Jurassic Park/ World Timeline video with all information we got so far and where the events take place. That would be really interesting. Im so hyped about JW3 and your Videos are so interesting to build up the Hype for the third movie. Greetings
I think Wu did go to site B and cloned the Spino and the other creatures in JP3, as for the dead creatures in the tanks, I believe that the first is a corythosaurus, the second was one of the new Mohawk raptors, and the last was a Spino.
Klayton, you make this story sound and look scary. That lab must look terrifying in the night. I'd love to see a strictly horror Jurassic movie. The series have great moment, like Ellie and the Raptors on the shed. And more recently in JWFK with Claire, Franklin and the Baryonyx. Actually Fallen Kingdom is the closest to a horror movie.
Really wished they would of explored more in the lab so we could understand more of what was going on. It would make an interesting movie to see a team make it here to steal the locked away secrets contained within.
As much as JP3 gets hated on, it still advanced the whole series and was a fun romp with new threads and explorations. Really good film for what it was.
There were a lot of good and creepy stuff in JP3 taken from the first and second book. They really nailed the atmosphere both in the Embryonics Lab and in the bird house.
I’ve always really liked the old/decrepit look they gave all the facilities on Sorna in JP III. Makes you wonder about life of the people before and after they abandoned the facilities there. And most of all, the things that went wrong. Alan Grant and even Dr. Wu have become drastically more interesting characters the more I watch and the older I get (30 yrs young 😂)That kind of backstory and lore is so interesting to me, though. Love the content, even as I’m just finding you and your videos within the past couple weeks. I’ve been hooked. Would be interesting to hear more about Dr. Arnold as well. Haven’t looked far enough into it, but I’ve always wanted to know more about his story as well!
I wish Jurassic Park III got as much respect as this video gave it. It's so underrated. You got the perfect t-rex counterpart, the spinosaurus. That sail when it sliced out of the water like a shark fin! It's only fault is that humans didn't know it was an aquatic dinosaur then. Finally, you have that avian dinosaur attack that every kid since the first movie was hoping for. For the record, I was in the theater when this movie premiered and everyone jumped in shock and then laughed at the "ALAN" dinosaur.
Great video as always. In regards to the embryos in the tanks, the first one (based on the shape of the head and in particular the snout) to me looks like an Edmontosaurus and the second one (based on the arms, which seem slightly longer than T-Rex, the shape of the snout and what appear to be horns on it's head) to me looks like an Allosaurus. As for the third one a Spinosaurus is as good a guess as any. Also I loved your use of the music from The Lost World PS1 game in the intro to your video.
I’ve always been under the impression it was the lab mentioned in the second book where they found out that was where they were doing all the weird genetic tests. They even found a T. rex that could camouflage there before the indominus Rex. They also had said that, that was where Hammond was originally breeding the Dino’s with a low success rate and then shipping them to the main island when they were positive to survive. Like the baby raptor Tim go to play with in the beginning of the first book.
I always assumed as a kid that it was the worker village. Knowing what I do now - thanks to your videos - I would assume that's where Masrani cloned the illegal specimens.
Honesty one of the channel's i tune into the most i love these theory vids or talking and reviewing stuff its great i hope you can keep making vids jurassic news (ps Godzilla? Theorys?)
I found this particular scene in the movie very interesting, and very eerie. I also imagine that these dinosaur embryos in the tubes weren’t for breeding. But I imagine that they were born with deformities that weren’t what they were trying to get. So they placed them in the tubes and now they study them for research and making perfect clones of those species. Kind of a way to improve their cloning skills on a certain species. this is just my speculation though. Another reason that they might be in tubes is because they are being used for DNA supply if it ever runs short.
I swear for the longest time I thought the compound from the lost world and jp3 were the same the fact that the raptors were in both places and even in jp3 Alan looks at the broken car giving a nod to tlw. I would even go back to both films to compare
It's pretty easy to tell that the buildings are different. If you remember in JP2, there was only one hole in the vehicle that Malcolm was in; the one in JP3 had more than one, so it's obviously not the same place. This is even visible in both the dark and light fixtures in both movies.
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Yes, it sometimes CAN be. The script for Jaws had to rewritten during filming because of technical errors causing delays ('The Shark isn't working"). Iron Man started filming with only an outline and it kicked off the MCU.And some films today have 'reshoots' which can alter scenes or ,in some cases, change the entire course of the film. for better or for worse.Most of time, it winds up being better.
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Stefan Negrao It makes since that they changed it though. In the video, it's explained that the location of the embryotic lab was changed mid-shoot because it was originally going to depict the same building from the scene from Lost World where Ian is attacked in the truck outside the communications building. There are a couple videos that try to tie the two scenes together simply by this truck that they believe to be in both shots. Even with the evidence in favor of that theory, there are easy signs that can help rule that out. The vehicle Ian is attacked in was an International Scout and the SUV Alan Grant and his group walk past in JP3 is a Chevrolet or GMC Suburban. The 2 extra doors help with identifying between the two. Also, all the windows in the Suburban are busted out, not just the single one destroyed by the raptor. Plus the walk from the gate to the entrance is much longer and more open than in LW. So it probably was a good idea that they changed it. Had they not, there would be tons of people like me who notice those little inconsistencies flooding the comments with these very same points. Lol
I find it weird that jp3 is considered the worst out of the series but for me anyway jp3 has the most interesting history out of the rest of the movies
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I agree
It’s also the only Jurassic Park film where none of the human characters on the island represent anyone with ulterior motives regarding the dinosaurs (Billy did steal the raptor eggs, but that was opportunistic rather than pre-meditated). No InGen scientists trying to get their hands on old experiments or anything that could lead to exposition on the purpose of the labs or any notable experiments that took place. Alan and the Kirby’s, by the end of the film, don’t appear to want any answers so are unlikely to seek them anyway.
While I can understand why people don't like the movie--Klayton included--I still, on the other, don't think it deserves all the hate it receives.
Now, is it perfect? Absolutely not. But at the same time, some of the things that are criticized are just minor for the overall experience of the movie; and yes, that does included the Spino vs. Rex battle.
This was the first movie in the franchise to have a completely new dinosaur "steal the screen" and really started what became Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom. I do agree with how you view it, especially since this is the first, real time that we see/hear of Ingen creating brand-new dinosaurs WITHOUT the public's knowledge. Grant and Billy even bring this up.
Again, the movie isn't perfect by any means but it still has its moments and is still very entertaining in the end. Once you look past the flaws, you'll have a wild ride.
I thought I was the only one that enjoyed JP 3
Honestly they should've made JP3 focus more on this lab. It would have been so much more interesting of a film if they touched on the mysteries of the lab and the failed INGEN cloning experiments.
Well Alan did remark that this wasn't how you made dinosaurs, this was how you played God. Maybe he recognized that the "Spinosaurus" that attacked them was not a true Spinosaurus, especially since Billy noticed that it had a Suchiomimus like snout. Being a paleontologist he would be able to recognize the mix of features on a single animal easily. As an intelligent and fairly pragmatic individual, he probably decided to keep the information to himself, so as to not panic the Kirby's and Mr. Udesky that the big animal that was attacking them was an unnatural creation that was never meant to exist. Billy probably figured it out too. This is all just my $.02, but that is what I think.
cynical_misanthropic_nihilist Spinosaurus did exist though, and really was bigger than T-Rex, was semi-aquatic with a long snout for catching fish, closely related to Baryonix. It pretty much was exactly how the film portrays it, except it probably wouldn’t have hunted the humans like that and would have stayed closer to the water. I keep hearing people say it’s a modified hybrid but I don’t think it is. Was that established in canon? Because as far as I know, it was pretty close to reality
@@BalrogofMorgoth95 nah, the dinosaur in JP3 was COMPLETELY inaccurate. I’m not talking about the little details here, I mean it was basically a completely different dinosaur.
For one, spinosaurus was mostly quadrupedal, only standing on two legs occasionally. It was more close in appearance to a giant crocodile with a sail than any large theropod. It mostly just ate fish, and its jaws were quite weak, being so long and thin. A tyrannosaurus could easily take it down, just due to the fact that it wasn’t adapted to a fully terrestrial life. The dinosaur JP3 has acts and looks more like an Indominus type hybrid than a real spinosaurus.
Edit: spinosaurus was NOT a quadruped, I was wrong. It just has really short legs. It still would have looked like a theropod, just a really, REALLY weird one.
The thing that was so terrible about JP3’s spino is its behaviors. It manages to somehow murder a T. rex, with its weak jaws, it is barely shown to be aquatic at ALL, it has no actual motivation for trying to hunt down a bunch of humans, when every other dinosaur did. The JP1 T. rex was more curious, JP2 had the baby T. rex plot, heck, even the JP3 RAPTORS just wanted to get their eggs back. The spino was just acting like a mindless movie monster.
Bro this is a great comment, and I believe you are right. Makes sense now
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@@BalrogofMorgoth95 i think it was called "amalgam testing" or something like that. Its been a while for me.
Maybe the super smart quilled raptors we see in JP3 were created there too, the next iteration along from the tiger striped/brown varieties from the first two. Maybe that's why they lived around the complex; they were born there...
IndoFilm484 Those are the most intelligent raptors in the series (possibly, Blue kinda skirts the line). It makes sense that Wu would go overboard and create talking, trap setting Velociraptors when given 0 restrictions.
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That makes sense... that's why all the new, intelligent predators in jp3 have blue stripes, just like blue in JW - they were part of a new project.
Also, the indoraptor has those gold stripes.
That means they're illegal aswell
We see a pattern from the Lost World that the raptor's territory on Sorna tend to be near InGen Compounds.
I always would like to see this place before it was abandoned I would of liked to see geneticist/workers working in the laboratory and maybe even see them raise infant dinosaurs and maybe even see the dinosaurs in the pens.
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Even though JP3 is my least favorite, it does have a lot of lore and speculation to it that the other films don't. That's one thing I've always loved about it.
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I completely agree with this comment, JP3 has many many flaws but it does bring some interesting things to the lore, obscure stuff.
I just wish they knew what movie to make before they started making it
Yeah I actually liked this film the least when I began re-watching all of the movies in the series, mainly because of all of the potential this movie had to be great and how it fell flat in many areas. However, there's just so many unexplored mysteries and lore pieces that appeared in this movie that are hard to ignore that make it a very interesting movie overall.
I love Jurassic Park 3. Dr. Alan Grant all the way.
I'm not sure that that second dinosaur embryo was a T-Rex. Its head looked like it had ridges above its eyes. To me at least, it looked more like a prototype Allosaurus. Maybe InGen was working on making Allosaurus their next unlisted dinosaur?
Sam Rosania my theory is that it's a lab right? They were making dinosaurs but experimenting and maybe trying to build a brand new species just like in jurassic world when they made a new species the adominus rex
Sam Rosania I totally agree, when I first saw that embryo my first thought was an Allosaurus
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@@changechannels Why deinomychus? It had a totally different skull
@@changechannels ah like that. I can definitely see it then. But personally I think when making jp3 the producers didn't plan ahead at all given how much of a mess it is. Still good point
If only Mrs Kirby knew that wasn't a dead raptor head..
that was one smart raptor
The first dinosaurs I always thought it was an Edmontosaurus, maybe a Maiasura. The last one could be a Spinosaurus, but the spines didn't look long enough. Could be a Suchomimus.
SHINOBI-03 I got the same Idea
SHINOBI-03
Or irritator, that Spinosaur relative, had more of a sail
The "spines" are just the vertebrae. The animal is clearly malnourished and shrunk up a bit.
Lord Indoraptor the irritator was never confirmed to be cloned by ingen though
"the spines don't look long enough". It's a fetus, man, it's not meant to look fully developed. Adolescents of any species, even post birth or hatching, are different from adults.
With that being said, I'd find it hard to believe that a spinosaurus aegypticus hatched out of an egg with a fully proportionate sail. It most likely would've been a small hump at birth, and then developed to be more profound into adulthood.
Something missed right at the 1 min mark: "This is where all of their dinosaurs would be cloned, hatched, taken care of- AND taught how to execute confusing jump scares... before they were shipped over to Isla Nublar..."
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It's almost as if they were intelligent ambush predators....oh wait....
@@adamhess7788 they must love horror games
I really think there could be a great prequel, for that lab itself that could focus more on doctor Wu’s work and what happened there that caused the lab’s demise.
Jp3 has to be one of the most mysterious jp films. also a pin would make my day
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It’s like a puzzle the leaves to complete were found more recently soon maybe we might have the whole idea of what it’s truly meant to be
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This is how you make dinosaurs no this is how you play God
Taro kitano 35 its is this how you make dinosaurs?
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Tripplestryke 245 no it's not
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What about an Allosaurus for the second embryo showed? That particular triangular crest in front of the eye is peculiar...
I thought the same thing it didn't look like a tyrannosaurus
I actually thought it was a dilo at first but this is good too
I thought “Didn’t they grow in eggs?”
That could mean Ingen accelerated their dino’s growth through the tanks?
Great work
That makes JP3 much more scary! Mabye Wu tryed there to improve Raptors, so some had feathers, cooler skin and higher iq
Seeing those in the dinos in the tubes gave me chills back in the day n a hint hint wink wink to maybe the Irex n Iraptor r not the first hybrid dinosaur.
it has already be established that the spinosaur was a sort of prototype hybrid.
Cyber Dino where already done before JP. It's was called Dino Rider a cartoon series from 90s where the good guys use a medallion to talk n control Dino while the bad guys use a mind control helmet. Once both sides got there Dino armor n equip with multiple lasers guns they rush into battle. To bad both sides don't lose anybody it's lasers beams just spamming ur screen n that it but at least there way of controlling Dino was way better than fallen kingdom.
Leandro Aude that was a proposal for Jurassic Park 4. The original was never planned that way
I remember in the beginning of Jurassic Park 3, one of the guys with the parasailing group spotted a plane LEAVING the island using binoculars. After the part when the red words "RESTRICTED" appear under the camera's view of Isla Sorna, the camera pans up to catch a glimpse of a plane flying away from the island, and one of the guys on the boat with Ben and Eric spotted that plane through his binoculars. What were the people on that departing plane doing on Isla Sorna eight weeks before Dr. Grant and the other survivors arrived to find Eric?
Don't think it was a plane flying off from the island but some kind of patrol but also it is too big for to be the one so perhaps it could be military transport with Wu and research about Spino and hybrids from that laboratory? And by the way even eight months in wild jungle could be enough to retake place by nature ;)
LupusUnleashed That was no patrol plane, it looked like a small transport plane. If patrols flew around the island freauently, why weren't the parasailing team caught?
I don't know how because I've seen all the JP films to an almost spergy level, but I've never given any notice to that plane. Seems like it was there for a reason, and surely one other than the disastrous production problems.
@@stacks6700 Well, Ingen illegally bred the Spinosaurus after The Lost World, so I strongly believe the "these guys are up to something" suspense.
@@lupusunleashed not 8 months but 2 months because 8 weeks
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@Leandro Aude You're projecting here. Eek.
it could have been that the embryo tanks weren't from Wu, but instead as part of the genetic process. my first theory is that the embryo tanks were originally the intended production method of dinos, and that it was only after a string of failed clones that the scientists may have realized that the tanks were not especially conducive to the cloning process, turning to the ostrich & emu eggs (or to the advanced bird egg mimicking plastic from the first book).
The next theory, which isn't actually incompatible with the above, is that the tanks were a safe-gaurd against flaws in the cloning process once embryos were committed to growth. A process as complex as cloning an extinct organism would likely be fraught with pitfalls, like DNA being corrupted from being inside a bug entombed in amber for millions of years, and of course genetic discrepancies like disease and natural malformation that occurs even in nature. and then there's the likelihood of DNA from the mosquito being sequenced into a dinosaur, creating an unholy fusion between, say, velociraptor and mosquito (funny that goldbloom pops up in my mind when i think of DNA spliced between something and an insect. help meee!!!).
but getting back on point, the embryo tanks may have been a tactical investment, a test of the DNA with a single dinosaur before committing to an entire clutch of eggs, just in case the DNA had genetic defects like a predisposition towards cancer or the like, which would endanger the profit of the animals produced by causing them to be hideously deformed or having a genetic disease that would greatly reduce the animal's life span and exploitability.
on a side note, I've always found it funny how the PETA angle of Jurassic park wasn't considered until Jurassic world, and how Crichton never expounded on it too heavily in the books. (so far, i'm 187 pages into the lost world at the time of typing) I guess it's because he was more interested in the scientific aspects, including the warning of tampering with nature and genetic power. but still, the humans only ever seem to see the dinosaurs as objects. oh sure there were a couple lines about them being living breathing things, but that angle was only ever used to bolster the idea of "You can't control these creatures just because you made them." and never used to say "These creatures are LIVING creatures, with emotions and drives, and you need to treat them humanely." but then perhaps that's just part of the narrative, that nobody considers how these creatures feel. or how they are treated. allot of people today don't consider that, or think about how animals are not actually, in fact, lesser than us, that we are only just adapted in different ways. But i should stop, I've gone and exposed my bleeding heart...
But yeah, TLDR: maybe the tanks were A) a relic of the early cloning process which fell out of favor with ingen, or B) a failsafe to maximize profit and minimize risk. OR C) both!
Thanks for going over this! I really hope we get more information about Sorna’s dark past in the upcoming film.
As a side JPIII note, the scene in the very beginning where Grant is talking to the press about his recent findings, and the majority are looking instead for answers to what went on at Jurassic Park and in San Diego is a really great continuation piece that I really enjoyed, as it shows that the public is lost after being exposed to Dino’s for the first time. Just throwing it out there!
Our first genetically modified hybrid: the spinosaurus!
Tripplestryke 245. More like genetically enhanced
@bigevilworldwide1 technically it is because this spinosaurus is too aggressive, but I don't blame it because this one has an excuse. This soino was abused and experimented on hence why it went after the humans due to its traumatic experience.
Would explain its absurd durability, aggression and strength.
I love the creepy Ingen Compound since I first saw JP3 and I always wanted to find out more about it.
I would’ve LOVED to see the Spinosaurus incubator that they were originally going to have in the movie.
Where does it say there would be a spinosaurus incubator?
Theliato on spino jp wiki
The second “fetus” might be the allosaurus from Jurassic world fallen kingdom because of the skull and the “backwards horns” on it
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I always thought this Laboratory looked cool. I hope to visit it on the VIP Studio Tour, one day.
Bryce Mckenzie people can visit the lab? Where it is? Universal Studios?
The communications building set from the lost world still exists on the back lot near the war of the worlds plane crash set but im not sure about the lab set
@@matthorseman2008 its pretty much flattened. i wouldnt make the effort to visit the site
@@TCCAPodcast I would, I'd just stand there breathe in deeply and say "My childhood was filmed here" would be awesome
Sadly last month universal cleared the site. The only thing still there now is the lagoon the building was built on.
JP 3 is my least favourite of the franchise BUT I would love to see an extra movie that actually is a sort of spinoff movie. Like the secrets of Doctor wu and Ingen and Masrani. Might be an interesting idea to create. Jurassic Park secrets and it’s unknown dinosaurs
Klayton whenever I eat breakfast or lunch I always pop on your recent videos if I can, they’re so entertaining and it’s so fun to learn about the JP/JW universe, I was always a fan of the movies and actually had no idea that there were books and even more in depth stories of the characters and such, I’m just amazed! Thank you for your time spent on your videos and on your channel as a whole, keep up the good work man we’re loving it.
What if this embryonic lab was the location of Wu’s first attempts at creating what specialized hybrid dinosaurs like the Indominus Rex and Indoraptor, which would explain why the fetuses do not resemble actually dinosaurs but instead seem to exhibit traits of multiple different species, and we know that Wu seems to have a sort of fascination with creating such things from his justification for creating the I-Rex in Jurassic World when he says the word monster is nothing but a relative term
I wanted to tell you that I've been watching your videos for about a year. I always lived Jurassic Park but you've gotten me more into the lore then every. Now I never miss a video. Keep up the great work
This place literally haunts my dreams since I was 9 and saw it for the first time. That sickly green glass, these embryos, raptor chase. For me it is hands down best scene from JP3 and one of the best horror scenes of the movies. There is something to it that makes even a grown 20 year old man unease.
To be fair, Jurassic Park is responsible for like 90% of my nightmares, most of them about raptors.
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According to the commentary, these where failed experiments. So these could may have been early hybrids a la the Indoraptor….
MultiRooker and then along came Jurassic world and then we saw a hybrid
MultiRooker the Spinosaurus was the first confirmed hybrid
Couldn't have been Indoraptor as its partly based on the Indominus.
@Ezra Murti Who knows, but in Jurassic World it sounds like the Indominus was developed quickly and specifically for that park 🤔
The I-Rex was designed to make a quick buck after tourism started to drop so it’s possible Wu took old designs for the I-Rex he was working on whilst on Site-B and said “I just thought this up why not try this”
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Same here bud I've even got all the movies except dominion on DVD I plan to binge watch them one day
I always loved JP3 more than the Lost World movie. Mostly because I liked the introduction of the Spinosaurus, the overall horror vibe from the dinosaurs hunting the people and the Lost World's San Diego scene was too much of a joke.
Love your videos on the Jurassic Park/World lore. They’re very informative and They’ve made me see this franchise in a scary new light
I feel bad for those dinosaurs that weren’t fully born or fully developed they remain trapped in those incubators
Why? they were technically never alive so they've always been dead
@@damienlopez1203 were they dead anyway
i ABSOLUTELY love your videos i always felt like the jps franchise had a deep dark and twisted behind the scenes lore and you really answer a lot of my questions couple that with the way you illustrate your videos with stills and creepy concept art it makes your channel the definitive jurassic park lore encyclopedia in my book congratulations
Personally, I believe the “T-Rex” embryo to actually be an Allosaurus! Note the triangular shapes on the head, above the eyes like an Allosaurus: also, the head shape in general is 1. Similar to an actual Allosaurus, and 2. Similar to the Fallen Kingdom Allosaurus
For the Hadrosaur type embryo, I believe it is a prototype Corythosaurus.
I recently subscribed and I’m watching your videos and absolutely loved them all. For this video, i remember Owen, from the first Jurassic World, saying “what kind of dinosaurs they cooked up in that lab”.
At 2:49, pause, look at the far right of the screen, the Spinosaurus, why is the Height only 1 foot?
DaSourOrange i think it wad a mostake
18 pounds too
So its 1 ft tall 18lbs and 46 ft long?😂😂😂😂😂
Flexy Boi i think you made a spelling mistake
Corythosaurus I think he is was miss spelling it on purpose for a joke
Dude you’re seriously my favorite channel on TH-cam. Thank you
The third embryo could’ve also been the early stage of a Therizinosaurus.
You have been covering some good content lately keep it up my dude
3:23 looks like an Allosaur to me
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I was just going to comment on that.
Hey man, Jurassic Park 3 is what introduced me to the franchise so I kind of have a nostalgic attachments to it. JP3 along with Godzilla 1998 and Spiderman 2002 are the first movies that I remember watching and I have nostalgia memories of.
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Speaking of which, your thoughts on MatPat's recent Jurassic Park theory?
Raphael Marquez its very good
Dude... I just spent 5-10 minutes looking for Part 1 and Part 2 for this video...
Then realized that it says *"Park 3".*
Ok...guess I'll watch it now...
Very interesting indeed! I really loved the scene of them exploring the embryo lab
I think Wu made Spino there.
Hey Klayton i am a huge fan of your Channel from Germany. I would love to see a Jurassic Park/ World Timeline video with all information we got so far and where the events take place. That would be really interesting. Im so hyped about JW3 and your Videos are so interesting to build up the Hype for the third movie.
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I think Wu did go to site B and cloned the Spino and the other creatures in JP3, as for the dead creatures in the tanks, I believe that the first is a corythosaurus, the second was one of the new Mohawk raptors, and the last was a Spino.
No joke! Clayton you uploaded this right as i am watch JP3
Oh nice! haha
How did I never notice theres a charizard in his intro
I would love to see this style video going over Sarah Harding’s encounters with Dodgson. Great videos!! Liked!
I wondering what species in the embryonic lab.
TheHunter Warri012. The 2nd fetus looks more like an Allosaur or something
KSound Kaiju i thought it was another spinosaurid because of the kinda long snout and a head crest
ADAM MUHAZLIM. Could be a Baryonyx
Very great stuff here Klayton!!! Awesome digging on the info for this video. Love hearing about these mysterious ruins!
Klayton, you make this story sound and look scary.
That lab must look terrifying in the night. I'd love to see a strictly horror Jurassic movie. The series have great moment, like Ellie and the Raptors on the shed. And more recently in JWFK with Claire, Franklin and the Baryonyx. Actually Fallen Kingdom is the closest to a horror movie.
Pin? And i want my sail boi in jw3
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Really wished they would of explored more in the lab so we could understand more of what was going on. It would make an interesting movie to see a team make it here to steal the locked away secrets contained within.
This movie is very bad .
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I disagree with your disagreement!
I doesn’t have interesting characters and a lot of the time doesn’t make sense.
It has some good scenes and atmosphere. Not much else going on for it. Even the Site B edit couldn't save it.
I agree.
I’ve been watching u for a couple days but ur my favorite JP/JW youtuber
The lab is an interesting part of the movie. Still is as a topic of discussion. Good video.
As much as JP3 gets hated on, it still advanced the whole series and was a fun romp with new threads and explorations. Really good film for what it was.
I really enjoy it
i eagerly wait for your videos man, keep up the good work. you’re my fav youtuber, keep uploading! 😊
Well done! You Video filled in some of the gaps that I’ve been wondering about for a while now! I’m glad I ran into this channel! Thanks!
Thanks for doing a video on this! I always wondered what those embryos in the lab was and almost forgot about them.
Keep up the excellent work, buddy! I love every video that you put out!
That lab is honestly such a good part of that movie I wish there was some sort of flash back or something to show what happened there
There were a lot of good and creepy stuff in JP3 taken from the first and second book. They really nailed the atmosphere both in the Embryonics Lab and in the bird house.
I’ve always really liked the old/decrepit look they gave all the facilities on Sorna in JP III. Makes you wonder about life of the people before and after they abandoned the facilities there. And most of all, the things that went wrong. Alan Grant and even Dr. Wu have become drastically more interesting characters the more I watch and the older I get (30 yrs young 😂)That kind of backstory and lore is so interesting to me, though.
Love the content, even as I’m just finding you and your videos within the past couple weeks. I’ve been hooked. Would be interesting to hear more about Dr. Arnold as well. Haven’t looked far enough into it, but I’ve always wanted to know more about his story as well!
I wish Jurassic Park III got as much respect as this video gave it. It's so underrated. You got the perfect t-rex counterpart, the spinosaurus. That sail when it sliced out of the water like a shark fin! It's only fault is that humans didn't know it was an aquatic dinosaur then. Finally, you have that avian dinosaur attack that every kid since the first movie was hoping for. For the record, I was in the theater when this movie premiered and everyone jumped in shock and then laughed at the "ALAN" dinosaur.
Great video as always.
In regards to the embryos in the tanks, the first one (based on the shape of the head and in particular the snout) to me looks like an Edmontosaurus and the second one (based on the arms, which seem slightly longer than T-Rex, the shape of the snout and what appear to be horns on it's head) to me looks like an Allosaurus. As for the third one a Spinosaurus is as good a guess as any.
Also I loved your use of the music from The Lost World PS1 game in the intro to your video.
I’ve always been under the impression it was the lab mentioned in the second book where they found out that was where they were doing all the weird genetic tests. They even found a T. rex that could camouflage there before the indominus Rex. They also had said that, that was where Hammond was originally breeding the Dino’s with a low success rate and then shipping them to the main island when they were positive to survive. Like the baby raptor Tim go to play with in the beginning of the first book.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! Its such a mysterious topic amazing
I always assumed as a kid that it was the worker village. Knowing what I do now - thanks to your videos - I would assume that's where Masrani cloned the illegal specimens.
I've always wanted Jurassic park to show more of this creepy sci-fi theme. A modern animal testing/cruelty story with the dinos.
Honesty one of the channel's i tune into the most i love these theory vids or talking and reviewing stuff its great i hope you can keep making vids jurassic news (ps Godzilla? Theorys?)
Love your stuff man! :)
Hey thanks! :D
I found this particular scene in the movie very interesting, and very eerie. I also imagine that these dinosaur embryos in the tubes weren’t for breeding. But I imagine that they were born with deformities that weren’t what they were trying to get. So they placed them in the tubes and now they study them for research and making perfect clones of those species. Kind of a way to improve their cloning skills on a certain species. this is just my speculation though. Another reason that they might be in tubes is because they are being used for DNA supply if it ever runs short.
Love the way you narrate the videos
Hey thank you! :D
I love your content keep up the good work
Another great video! Keep them comming!
I love your videos, but the music is quite a nice addition. It makes your channel completely stand out.
I swear for the longest time I thought the compound from the lost world and jp3 were the same the fact that the raptors were in both places and even in jp3 Alan looks at the broken car giving a nod to tlw. I would even go back to both films to compare
Great video keep up the hard work
"What else could he have been doing in that lab?"
Wu: *furiously writing My Little Pony/Dinosaur fanfiction*
3:34 could have been a Giganotosaurus in the making but was abandoned.
0:55 what is the name of the music?
Not the intro music, the music that plays after the intro finishes.
JP3 was my first Jurassic Park movie, and the Spinosaurus will always be my favorite dinosaur.
I noticed you used a bit of Giacchino's music from The Lost World in this video. Nice touch.
Great job Klayton, always liked your videos no matter how much I hated fallen kingdom I refuse to be drawn away from the original trilogy
your videos have made me come to appreciate jp3
Thank you for this I always was really curious about that setting
It's pretty easy to tell that the buildings are different. If you remember in JP2, there was only one hole in the vehicle that Malcolm was in; the one in JP3 had more than one, so it's obviously not the same place. This is even visible in both the dark and light fixtures in both movies.