10 Facts you might not know about Spartan-III's

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  • @weirdboy7
    @weirdboy7 ปีที่แล้ว +957

    Speaking of the augmentations, I always wondered why Chief needed a flashlight in the original trilogy knowing that he could pretty much see in almost total darkness.

    • @johnmacangus2634
      @johnmacangus2634 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      Most people just say ots for game purposes. Another thing for me is the expanded lore cam out after h1

    • @Hunter-rr5ue
      @Hunter-rr5ue ปีที่แล้ว +218

      Don't know if this could be canon, but my personal head-canon explanation is that the light just helps Spartans to see even better, similar to how first gen night vision scopes relied on infrared lamps to see better.

    • @eliflores9819
      @eliflores9819 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      I thinking that maybe it could’ve been more of a benifit for any marines fighting along side him rather than for the benifit of cheif himself

    • @regularasiandude17
      @regularasiandude17 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      Gameplay purposes. Also, in a close quarter combat situation in darkness/low light environments, having your opponent shining a bright light straight in your eyes is a huge disadvantage since you're temporarily blinded. Perhaps that's one of the uses of his flashlights, to blind his foes when needed. If you have played Halo Wars 2, you probably remember Jerome using said tactic, turning his lights on before fighting Banished brutes in a dark room. If my memory serves me correctly, the MJOLNIR helmets (or the ones fitted with cameras) can record stuff for intel gathering purposes, so a bright source of light is required; otherwise, the footages they get would be pitch black. In addition, our eyes need time to adjust to brightness or darkness. I don't think Chief (or any soldier) would have that luxury in combat to wait for his pupils to dilate/undilate, hence the lights.

    • @PrinceOfDolAlmroth
      @PrinceOfDolAlmroth ปีที่แล้ว +39

      it's not for him, its for you, the viewer, who doesn't have the ability to see perfectly in the dark. simple as that.

  • @J0J0Reference
    @J0J0Reference ปีที่แล้ว +475

    Spartan 3s are the most narratively interesting generation imo, so I’m excited to see if this holds new information for me!

    • @johnmacangus2634
      @johnmacangus2634 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yeah it's like a more human spartan but not goofy like s4rs

    • @J0J0Reference
      @J0J0Reference ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@johnmacangus2634 I like the 4s because they are a natural evolution of the Spartan program and shows how far humanity has come since the beginning of the H-C war. I’ve never found them to be goofy, but I understand preferring the previous iterations.

    • @johnmacangus2634
      @johnmacangus2634 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@J0J0Reference I see what you mean. I don't mean goofin a bad way but like they are more human in nature

    • @comancheclub3449
      @comancheclub3449 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Agreed. SII will always be the og for me but SIII are the real unsung heros IMO. They were trained from ages younger than Spartans, in harsher conditions, given inferior equipment and then after almost of decade of brutal training sent on legit suicide missions that were expected to have 100% casualty rate.
      Akerson might have been fighting for humanity, but he had zero concern for the sanctity of life or the suffering of those under him.

    • @beastmode1915
      @beastmode1915 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@comancheclub3449 I believe it was either Kurt or Mendez that commented on Ackerson, saying he would sacrifice his entire family if the opportunity was there

  • @pascallavoie8417
    @pascallavoie8417 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I personnally think most people consider 3s (and 4s) inferior to 2s because of the reason they were made.
    2s were meant to be perfect
    3s were meant to be expendable
    4s were meant to be morally acceptable.

    • @filippauljohnson6924
      @filippauljohnson6924 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @xSARGEx117x cut training time doesn't necessarily mean worse. Purely because I vaguely remember Spartan 3 training ended up being more extensive, cruel, and tougher to make up for the less training time with a more emphasis on teamwork and comraderie than the Spartan 2s.
      I also vaguely remember Kurt telling Halsey that if a Spartan 3 was wearing Mjolnir, they'd be on par with a Spartan 2.

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
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      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      - Acts 3:19
      If you’re are in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna/Rpc, Urcna, or a canrc church
      (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian churches)
      If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church.
      If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC.
      (Different from the Church of Scotland)
      If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England
      (Different from the Church of England)
      Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations

    • @Vinlaan
      @Vinlaan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah, IIs are just better. That’s why.

    • @pascallavoie8417
      @pascallavoie8417 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Vinlaan i think the same but facts can Tell otherwise. With the same technologue and training, IIs are better for sure but...
      3s augmentations were developped ans upgrade from the résulta if the 2s augmentations
      3s have been trained by a Spartan that understand Spartan capability
      2s were trained from infiltration missions against insurectionnist. 3s, to fight the covenant.
      3s didn't had the same budget for their equipment, so they had weaker equipments. If Put 2s un SPI armor, Will they still ne better than 3s?

    • @Vinlaan
      @Vinlaan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@pascallavoie8417 Spartan IIIs are as strong as IIs, but the IIs combat training hits DIFFERENT.
      The IIs were trained since the age of six years old.
      If we put them in SPI armor, we’ve got to remember how much faster they are genetically.
      We’ve got to remember that their bones are encased in TITANIUM and some shit.
      We’ve got to remember that they are THE Spartans.
      Not some fodder designed to die. I’m not saying the spartan IIIs are weaker, Im saying the Spartan IIs are more skilled and knowledgeable of combat.
      So, a Spartan II would beat a Spartan III, BARELY.

  • @WolfeSaber9933
    @WolfeSaber9933 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Remember when the 3's were created because someone felt small to Halsey. To go so far as to try and kill Chief in a training exercise with an anti tank missile.

    • @nathansheldahl
      @nathansheldahl ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Then tried to kill Master Chief and Cortana with ODSTs during a training exercise. 🤣
      He paid for that mistake dearly and had a lot of explaining to do with Mrs after Cortana got done with him.

    • @nicholaswilkerson4394
      @nicholaswilkerson4394 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That shit was dirty as hell, too! Imagine endangering your entire species out of jealousy and pettiness

    • @alpha2gproject783
      @alpha2gproject783 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think this is a fascinating showing of humanity and it's relevance to the real world because it goes to show that even with xx on the line that humans will still human or just that there are still people who will let their pride and ego get in the way of goals regardless of their importance.

    • @tdjkhazard4522
      @tdjkhazard4522 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Akerson 😂 what a bum

  • @BargainBinAdventures
    @BargainBinAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Surely I can’t be the only one who thinks that a game where you play as a headhunter team would make an awesome coop experience

    • @DaveRiot
      @DaveRiot ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hell yea halos version of army of 2

    • @rianmacdonald9454
      @rianmacdonald9454 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah you got a good idea there. An assassin theme of stealth, seek and destroy?

    • @dabeast987
      @dabeast987 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That would be really cool. I also thought it would be cool to play as a normal marine during the first contact on harvest. Or a game where there are different missions but you play as different people. Some missions are a success, while others are complete failures.

    • @lostwizardcat9910
      @lostwizardcat9910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ive been wanting to fight the Innis since halo 3.

    • @vegeta002
      @vegeta002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's basically what ODST coop was:
      * Weaker than the Chief and Six, but still superhuman (carrying turrets around and surviving plasma shots, just like Spartans wearing SPI instead of Mjolnir).
      * Recharging shields, even if the game used a different name (which Headhunters had on their SPI)

  • @Jimmy_Rings
    @Jimmy_Rings ปีที่แล้ว +287

    Can you do “10 things you might not have known about Elites” next? I think that would be cool since the covenant side of halo lore is a part that I think many halo fans probably know less about as a whole.

  • @Megaduckatron
    @Megaduckatron ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I’d like to see special facts about certain Spartans. Like the fact that Kurt was like an 8’ tall giant.

    • @HeWhoComments
      @HeWhoComments ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Installation00 has actually made a video all about Kurt. “Kurt-051 Lore and Theory”

  • @WalrusWinking
    @WalrusWinking ปีที่แล้ว +368

    Spartan 3s are not weaker than Spartan 2s. Spartan 2s were given Mjolnir while many 3s were not. That's the whole point of them. They're SEVERLY underrated.

    • @wastelesslearning1245
      @wastelesslearning1245 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Agree 100%. I actually like Spartan 3 program more then 2’s. Just like there is a certain minimum level of augmentation required to out preform a elite, there is also a necessary quantity of those quality soldiers needed to compete with the covenant army. If you can only produce single digit production percentages of Spartans compared to the covenant‘s quality elites, hunters, and brutes soldier production; your going to loose the war. Hence why I appreciate the Spartan 3’s quantity and quality! The bonus is it opens up new ways of using Spartans for the necessary self sacrifice missions that otherwise would of been too expensive to even be viable long term.
      Plus being developed by being kidnapped to fight your own people trying to break free from Orwellian State control is, in my opinion, a less cool vibe. Way cooler to be a part of a elite Spartan program with the numbers to make a difference in the war, from a pool of orphans looking to inflict vicious vengeance upon the covenant.
      Now was it perfect? No the augmentations still required a minority of the human population to be genetically comparable but did it succeed in their goals.
      More quantity then Spartan 2 ✅
      More cheap then Spartan 2 ✅
      For most anti-covenant purposes, just as good as Spartan 2s; doing all this wile being forced to use by necessity inferior quality equipment but on a value Analysis they made the most of it. ✅
      Note: Later Spartan programs were able to seemingly acheive more mass production but that technology was not matured enough in time during the Human Covenent war. They needed more Spartans yesterday during that war so the Spartan 3 program was nesciary stop gap. 3s armor may have lacked energy shields but if did have active camo which is a much wiser choice for budgeting, spec ops and espionage. And in my opinion the later generations of Spartans that have mass production don’t have as cool of a backstory. So for me 3s are a nice middle ground. Cool backstory. Making a lot with less. Necisary sacrifices. With numbers to try to make a difference.

    • @ethnobotanyboy
      @ethnobotanyboy ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I believe all but a few were given SPI armor, which was a cheaper alternative to Mjolnir armor. If I recall correctly, it has a type of cloak rather then a shield.

    • @wastelesslearning1245
      @wastelesslearning1245 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ethnobotanyboy yes they have photo reactive plating that made them have discount active camouflage. Super based IMO. Energy shields have limits but you can’t hit what can’t see. You can’t even fight what you don’t notice. More survivable to stealth past Beam Rifle Jackals then go in visibly guns blazing. Most Spartan 2’s didn’t active camo at the time so mass producing it for the 3s would have been a huge deal. Even still some Spartan 3s like Noble team got energy shielded Spartan 2 armor but ,for the most part, majority made due without.

    • @monkey-wrench1027
      @monkey-wrench1027 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ethnobotanyboy The SPI armor had both. its just that one would draw power from the other in order for that mode to perform at maximum capacity. like the cloaking would fizzle or static when the shields recharged. Headhunters being the best of the best got a more advanced version of SPI
      On a separate note, you are correct that a few had the privilege of using Mjolnir, such as Noble Team being equipped with MK V

    • @thelegotrooper3975
      @thelegotrooper3975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 'hole point of them' is to make spartan cheap that means that means the changes aren't as good 25% worse by my estimate

  • @JTruong3rd
    @JTruong3rd ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Out of the spartans Gen 3 were my favorite just for the sheer tragedy and importance they had in the expanded universe. Doomed to die but always win at the cost of their life.

  • @greyth8h84
    @greyth8h84 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    reading dante’s death was shocking. the way they worded it was honestly horrific to visualize from kurt’s perspective. casual conversation into short realization into instant death all the while kurt was gauging his reaction(and lack thereof) to his wounds while he was running up to him(donte was running to a stationary kurt with a huge hole in his chest) kurt knew that donte was literally a deadman walking that didn’t know he was already dead😨

  • @beastmode1915
    @beastmode1915 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I actually knew all of these.
    Spartan-IIIs are my favourite generation of Spartans. There’s just so much depth and lore there, like we still have loose ends out there like Kevin-A282, the Spartans of Gauntlet, Red and Echo Teams that Jun mentioned in Reach, and who have been confirmed Spartan-III teams, Spartan-B170 and more recently (prior to Infinite’s launch) a team of Spartans who appeared in London and saved Agryna, and who I personally believe are Spartan-IIIs who were equipped with similar armour as Naomi-010.
    That’s without diving into Headhunters and Gamma Company Spartans. I still do hope 343 keep some mystery around this class of Spartans though, while tying up the loose ends I mentioned, because it is perfect for creating our own Spartans, myself having a few that I created with backgrounds and portfolios.
    Anyways that’s all I wanted to say. You can probably tell how much I enjoy this topic of Halo

    • @swimmerofage2148
      @swimmerofage2148 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Naomi is a Spartan II test piloting the MV5 core of Mjolnir Mark VII, but yes, similar armor and possibly twos or threes (threes more likely, given their size in comparison to pre-augmented Agryna) who could have also been test piloting the armor. It's actually possible that one of the three Spartans was Naomi, and the other two could be Tom and Lucy, or maybe Ash and Olivia, if they were later given Mjolnir.

    • @beastmode1915
      @beastmode1915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@swimmerofage2148 those are good suggestions but it cannot be Tom, Lucy, Ash or Olivia as they were currently on Onyx then later in the actual Dyson Sphere as the Battle of Earth was unfolding

    • @cloudchiodude6057
      @cloudchiodude6057 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It could be one of the two new cat 2 team made cannon, teams anchor and strider

    • @kaspermp.3.495
      @kaspermp.3.495 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Literally love creating a back story for my spartan 3, simply bc its so much fun and brings a lot of mystery

  • @austinalthaber4068
    @austinalthaber4068 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    I've always sided with Halsey in her reaction to Akerson and discovering the SIII project. At it's core, Halsey actually loves her SII's and we know they are her children. Akerson felt nothing for the SIII's, and this makes it so much more tragic.
    I also love the Ferret Team stories and how they view Veda as mom, and in turn how she has become mom.

    • @ezyo1000
      @ezyo1000 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Kurt is more comparable in regards to the Spartans and how he viewed them than Ackerson, whom was barely in Ghost of Onyx after pitching it.
      Kurt loved his Spartans and it's still just as tragic as Kurt felt powerless and responsible for the destruction of Alpha and Beta company, despite that not being anyones fault (well ONI is to blame since 3s didn't have any logistical support like the 2s)

    • @peenoice5176
      @peenoice5176 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well atleast the program was relatively safe and zero kidnappings were conducted and to be fair everything was going shit during the spartan 3 program. I actually hated Halsey's reaction to "her" spartans hey lady if youre gonna kidnap and treat me like a labrat which we barely survive btw the last thing i would want is for you to act like my mother atleast akerson is honest.

    • @TheChristianChimp
      @TheChristianChimp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some of noble team also view Dr Halsey as a mom and maybe even some other spartan 3s too.

    • @TheChristianChimp
      @TheChristianChimp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ezyo1000that's the sad story of a spartan, at least they had a father figure of sorts

    • @dragonweezle4876
      @dragonweezle4876 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ermm...she did sanction their kidnappings, directly kill many of them with unsafe surgeries and subject them to awful training as well as making their parents suffer abhorrent crimes against humanity

  • @niko-fr9of
    @niko-fr9of ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Sadly the 3s became the sacrificial Spartan generation even though after the 2s were probably the most dangerous generation of Spartan to come across in battle.
    Unlike the child abducted and brainwashed 2s the 3s comprised of the volunteers which mostly comprised of survivors of Covenant attacks.
    A single revenge seeking Spartan is a scary thought. Now let times that by a few thousands.

  • @leralu198525
    @leralu198525 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Gamma Company was my favorite, their status as the soldiers that need 'happy' pills was hilarious. however, its surprising it took Kurt -051 the complete loss of two companies to look into what can give his spartans an edge to help them survive these suicide missions.

  • @KurtT-051
    @KurtT-051 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Everytime I see my Spartans represented I'm overcome with pride. Thanks again for honoring them, 00.

  • @DreadNought0255
    @DreadNought0255 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    My take when it comes to comparing "out of suit" capabilities of S2 and S3 is that S3's are capable of what the people running the S2 program expected the S2 augmentations to achieve. In the book "Fall of Reach" i believe there is a part after the augmentation where Mendez and Halsey are observing a training exercise where two instructors were fighting against blue team. The instructors were in early gen tethered power armor and Halsey was susprised at how fast, agile and powerful the Spartans were. The theory there being that their genetics not only allowed them to survive the procedures as was expected, but synergized with them and allowed for greater then expected results.
    S3 augmentations were broad scope enough that they didn't need that exact of a physical match to qualify and thus the augmentations, now improved and with a higher chance of success, could be much widely applied. But the results were the EXPECTED results of S2's not the bonus synergy results. This also means that there is a small subset of S3's that by chance have the genetics to also synergize with their augmentations and be, for all intents and purposes, on par with an S2. The player character of Reach comes to mind, there are also headhunters and maybe a few other special cases.
    This of course ignoring the "illegal bonus" Gamma company got which would give them an edge over S2's in an extreme situation. But no free lunches, comes with a massive downside.

  • @ultraanimates687
    @ultraanimates687 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    George was just a really huge Spartan? I mean he was a lot bigger than the rest of noble, and that being one of the only size example of 2s to 3s next to each-other was probably a big reason for the misconception.

    • @Snail_IV
      @Snail_IV ปีที่แล้ว +8

      George was big by spartan standards in general

  • @thedigitalrealm7155
    @thedigitalrealm7155 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the size misconception also comes from showing Jorge next to the Spartan 3s when in reality Jorge is just a big boi

  • @AS-fp4gb
    @AS-fp4gb ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Makes me sad to think that most of the 3s never got to hit their full potential. Noble team were some of the few to actually hit adulthood, and Kat and Six were barely there, at 22.

  • @michaelalexanders9966
    @michaelalexanders9966 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Spartan IIIs were always my favorite. They may have met some (albeit looser) genetic criteria, but their main trait was their motivation. I always loved sheer will more than some kind of hidden talent. Basically, they had that DAWG in them.

  • @jedijam91
    @jedijam91 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Spartan 3s are not weaker than the 2s, they just wear cheaper armor. Put a Spartan 3 in the same armor as a Spartan 2 and he can become "hyper lethal" just like a Spartan 2.

    • @bloodraven1190
      @bloodraven1190 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Case in point, Noble Six.

    • @travisvanalst4698
      @travisvanalst4698 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It takes a special Spartan to be hyper lethal. Not just throw one in Mjolnir and they immediately become hyper lethal.

    • @jedijam91
      @jedijam91 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@travisvanalst4698 I am aware. I was speaking specifically of Noble 6.

    • @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
      @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It wasn't just the armor, they were weaker yes, but it wasn't by a MASSIVE margin. That would be the Spartan 4s.

  • @Insanity6419
    @Insanity6419 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There’s a few things on this list that I didn’t know or couldn’t remember, like the younger part, at first I was surprised but then I remembered they were orphans or the under cover spartan 3s among the Banished that completely surprised me, and the facts about Gamma company was surprising.
    Personally I think a “10 things you might not know about ODSTs”could be interesting or a 10 things about one of the alien species could be cool too.

  • @vegeta002
    @vegeta002 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I've seen someone claim the Spartan-2 augmentations are inherently superior to the Spartan-3 one's specifically _because_ their augmentations are more invasive and frequently fatal. As opposed to the canon, where Spartan-3 augmentations are considered superior for the exact same reason.

    • @NoNameTaken117
      @NoNameTaken117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spartan 3's were meant to be a cheaper alt to the spartan 2, though there were some spartan 3's that were basically strong as spartan 2's i.e. Noble 6

    • @williamgibson3862
      @williamgibson3862 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had someone argue that Spartan-4 was superior to a Spartan-3 my favorite generation just can't get W.

    • @vegeta002
      @vegeta002 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@NoNameTaken117 People tend to bring up the "cheaper" thing, but they always overlook a very important point; the _armour_ was the budget cut, not the Spartan.
      The bulk of the cost of a Spartan-2 goes into their absurdly expensive, impossible-to-mass-produce GEN1 Mjolnir.
      That's why most Spartan-3's got SPI Armour until it was replaced by GEN2 Mjolnir; it can be mass-produced cheaply enough to supply them.

    • @vegeta002
      @vegeta002 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@williamgibson3862 I've seen that fairly often, they usually seem to think the Spartan-3 augmentations were "watered down" versions, when it was actually the Spartan-4's who got that dubious honour.

    • @williamgibson3862
      @williamgibson3862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vegeta002 Exactly I have never read/seen a Spartan-4 fight elite's or spartan-2 without armor the 3s have a crap ton proof.

  • @garrettlittle1279
    @garrettlittle1279 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The whole "Smoother" thing regarding Gamma company's augmentation process sounds like the Earth Alliance Phantom Pain Black Ops unit's "Extendeds" mostly unexplained augmentation process in Gundam Seed Destiny.

  • @shaelindholm2655
    @shaelindholm2655 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Spartain III's are my favorite generation tbh

  • @Phoenix-214
    @Phoenix-214 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Not to be a pedant, but I'm pretty sure Tom and Lucy were from Beta company and were the sole survivors of Operation: TORPEDO, rather than Alpha's Company's successful but ultimately ill-fated Operation: PROMETHEUS.
    Edit: Now that I've finished the video, I've got a couple of questions.
    1. A while back, you made a video comparing the Spartan generations and noted that IIIs are, in fact, somewhat weaker and slower, based on known feats. While I can buy that many of the physical disparities will disappear with time, one thing I'm curious about is the Spartan neurological augmentations. You seemed to think that S-IIs are in a league of their own here, and IIIs and IVs, while significantly faster than human baseline, are still not quite there. The thing balancing out the Spartan generations is ultimately the Spartan Neural Interface and MJOLNIR, which bypass the central nervous system and most of the differences in physical strength. How much of that information would you say is still up to date?
    2. While I was watching you discuss the illegal neurological Gamma-specific modifications, I found my thoughts turning to additional advancements made in Project ORCHID for the Spartan-IVs, and your belief that many of the new generation-specific augmentations were retroactively applied to prior Spartan generations. Wouldn't it be possible to create an artificial organ, or modify an existing one to perhaps produce the chemicals required to counteract the negative effects of the Gamma neurological augs, or are they perhaps too reliant on specific ingredients to do this, even with the UNSC's impressive bioengineering technology? I figured if they could make a Spartan breathe methane or get efficient nutritional value out of a tree trunk, this isn't a massive leap, but maybe I'm wrong?

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tom and Lucy are both from Beta company, so you are correct.

    • @Phoenix-214
      @Phoenix-214 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem I posted this the moment I stumbled onto the apparent mistake in the video, but later information in the video gets their backstories correct, so I am sure this was a simple oversight during the recording and editing process, nothing to worry about.

    • @NoNameTaken117
      @NoNameTaken117 ปีที่แล้ว

      You may be right about the UNSC being hella good with biotechnology, if I am correct the UNSC already had a cure for Cancer long before the Human Covenant War, so maybe?

    • @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
      @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, they were from alpha. They were the only 2 survivors from operation torpedo where there were 300 of them attacking a Covenant refinery. They even had the 1st PSI armor model that wasn't vacuum sealed. They jumped in water to survive
      the explosion and their helmets filled
      with water.

  • @walmartbargainbin
    @walmartbargainbin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would love to see an S III headhunters game where you’re paired up with a different partner depending on your playstyle after a psych evaluation quiz. I feel this would help you develop a deeper connection with a character that compliments you and your playstyle while you go and hunt down high value targets during the Human-Covenant war.

  • @fishclaspers361
    @fishclaspers361 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Could you look into Ilsa Zane?
    I think her augmentations sound pretty interesting.
    Especially if it would be possible to get rid of the side effects.

  • @vincentgros
    @vincentgros ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for keeping up with putting videos out there 00 , it's very comforting to follow especially in the halo lore dry spell we live in

  • @mattattack1996
    @mattattack1996 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Spartan 3's are interesting and hopefully there will be more lore involving Spartan 3's

  • @quantemwensday
    @quantemwensday ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:00
    so those extra enhancements are really more like insurance that they experience a super powered adrenaline rush

  • @shomple6201
    @shomple6201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video! I hope someday they come out with more headhunter lore. I always thought a game about them would be so cool

  • @med5674
    @med5674 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew about the mass deployment and suicide missions including the tragic story of Tom and Lucy, the fact that Spartan 3 was done behind Halsey’s back and the existence of the headhunters and that the best of each class were separated as for what I didn’t know I was under the impression of Spartan 3’s being slightly inferior to Spartan 2’s, I had heard some things about humans in banished ranks but nothing about Spartans I also hadn’t heard about gamma’s additional modifications and the new class that was heading to Onyx or even about Onyx being a shield world. all things considered yet another amazing and educational video thanks 00

  • @kuddlykraken2157
    @kuddlykraken2157 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I Really enjoy these lore videos. I know Fracture Cores are noncannon but I'd like a video about Yoroi, Eaglestrike, and Chimera

  • @sampatterson2434
    @sampatterson2434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m new to your channel and really enjoy your stuff! I knew most of this but didn’t know about the headhunters. I may have to go back into not my books and look for them.

  • @michaelfink7051
    @michaelfink7051 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Infinitely better than kammysheps assessment of spartan 3s. Finally a creator who doesnt dog on the 3s and glaze the 2s.

  • @andrewramsey4259
    @andrewramsey4259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video domain master . I did not know about 3s in the banished but that was it

  • @alextenno5430
    @alextenno5430 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work as always.

  • @matthewl312
    @matthewl312 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU finally a video showing that the 2's and 3's are the same. I have been in soooo many arguments over this and ppl never believe me, thank you so much for putting this to rest. The 3's will always be my favorite generation!!!! 😁

  • @wisso3253
    @wisso3253 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait ............with the quality of these videos I would expect this channel to have 1M subscribers. Keep up the good work you will 100% get really big. Things working in your favor are the quality of your content and your near ASMR narrator voice you have. Awesome

  • @devonwarnock2625
    @devonwarnock2625 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:00 I'm sure it was a mistake bro, but Tom and lucy are Beta company Spartan 3s not Alpha company. All of the alphas died except jun. Also as far as 2s and 3s being equal, I completely agree until the Gammas enter the mix. The Gammas are just something else entirely man.
    Source - Ghosts of Onyx

    • @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
      @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it wasn't a mistake. Tom and Lucy are alpha, not beta company. Not all of Alpha Company died, Tom and Lucy were the only 2 survivors. They even wore the first SPI armor model.

    • @devonwarnock2625
      @devonwarnock2625 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy Tom-B292
      Lucy-B091
      Both betas.
      Jun is still alive so I guess one did survive.

    • @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
      @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@devonwarnock2625
      I forgot about their numbers lol

  • @Zenlore6499
    @Zenlore6499 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayyy, love it!

  • @danguhzone5130
    @danguhzone5130 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be really sick for a book to come out. New S4 character POV, and that character getting to go on a deep dive of the history of the Spartans. A very non-combat heavy Halo novel. Character gets to meet the trainers from 117's training, finds the active S3s for interviews due to whatever reason. Then a major focus on multiple S4s learning and reacting to the factual information and feats of the prior generations. Close up on "What does being a Spartan mean to you? What IS a Spartan?"
    And get the response from across the generations. Would be cool to see 117 answer that, but I'm already asking too much

  • @MasonMapes
    @MasonMapes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro you’ve got one of the best speaking voices I’ve heard in a long time.

    • @Installation00
      @Installation00  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thank you! Much appreciated ❤

  • @DadsRUs
    @DadsRUs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who is playing an unarmored spartan 3 in DnD. This will help me flesh out some background stuff 😎

  • @xArbiter279
    @xArbiter279 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great video

  • @TrackLink351
    @TrackLink351 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally think it would be interesting for you to do a video on some of the lore on some species of halo like a dedicated video for the unggoy or sangheili

  • @josiahnunley2910
    @josiahnunley2910 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ‘Pretty sure most of us thought S3s were smaller because of Jorge. He’s just really big for a Spartan, be it 2 or 3, right?

    • @vegeta002
      @vegeta002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, Jorge seems to be common "proof". Maybe they think all Spartans of a class are the same size or something.

    • @brandonbothma152
      @brandonbothma152 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I think he was already tall for his age

  • @Shark_Studios2
    @Shark_Studios2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And I thought I knew most sparten 3 lore I guess 😅 thank you for making this video love hearing Halo lore

  • @charlesmosher4
    @charlesmosher4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the better representation of my fellow Spartans

  • @williambreeze2659
    @williambreeze2659 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One hell of a video!

  • @saltpoweredrobot5625
    @saltpoweredrobot5625 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw the video and the first thing I thought was "Will he erroneously claim that Spartan III's augmentations were inferior to Spartan II's", and I'm glad to see you wasted no time shutting down that dumb myth. WHY so many people seem to think that Spartan III's were weaker than IIs, or that Lucy's height is the height for all of them is beyond me. They seriously need to reread Ghost's of Onyx, cause they clearly didn't get it the first time.

    • @jasonzaragoza9413
      @jasonzaragoza9413 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      exactly lol. It literally states that Lucy was a dwarf compared to the other Spartans and the Spartan III augs were a quantum leap in comparison to the IIs.

    • @mitchellbennion7586
      @mitchellbennion7586 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts, I hate when fans feel the need to bring up S-IIs whenever S-IIIs are mentioned.

  • @Daniel-qx7tv
    @Daniel-qx7tv ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video I didn't know most of these facts or that 3's are basically on par with 2's after hearing for years that 2's were better from everyone haha. I hope you make a video like this for spartan 4's next, I am genuinely curious where they stack up to the previous generations and if they are inferior to them or not. As well as any other interesting facts about them as the current and newest generation of Spartans. Keep up the great work!

    • @jasonzaragoza9413
      @jasonzaragoza9413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spartan 4's are far inferior to 2s and 3s. Lesser training and lesser augmentations. The only thing that gives them a chance is their armor.

    • @Daniel-qx7tv
      @Daniel-qx7tv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonzaragoza9413 Yeah I'm not that into the lore that I know the augmentations I just know that each generation had different ones Which I assumed was weaker augments each new gen but since the video said that wasn't really the case with 2's and 3's I wondered about 4's augments and how they stack up cause I don't know. So thanks for letting me know It's a shame their not as good as 2's and 3's but I still want a video on them as well to know more about them cause I enjoy infinite and my spartan 4.

    • @jasonzaragoza9413
      @jasonzaragoza9413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Daniel-qx7tv yea the 4s are honestly just barely augmented to be slightly above normal humans in physical terms. Their armor makes up alot of the difference though, while 2s and 3s were augmented to be far beyond anything humanly capable. Without armor a 2 and 3 could probably manhandle a whole squad of 4s. Even with armor they could beat quite a few.

    • @flatarthur3161
      @flatarthur3161 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@jasonzaragoza9413 I'm pretty sure the Spartan-IVs are well above the average human in terms of strength and speed rather than just being slightly better, but yes, they are inferior to the IIs and IIIs.

  • @danobannanno147
    @danobannanno147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video is epic, i so often try to argue that SIIIs are on par, at most slightly inferior to the SIIs and this video just put it into one easy package. I was unaware on the fact that the SIIIs could keep growing, with the knowledge of that and that they were rarely given Mjolnir, i can confidently say more then ever that they are hardly worse if at all.

    • @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
      @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As far as I've seen, only a handful of Spartan 3s were on par with 2s. The rest are inferior, but it isn't by a MASSIVE margin like the Spartan 4s.

  • @nelsonmatamoros7084
    @nelsonmatamoros7084 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see a video explaining what Credits are in the halo universe I have seen many lore video about them we just know they are used as currency

  • @prrocker9637
    @prrocker9637 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fun fact Spartans Hazel A302 and Owen B092 were also pulled from their companies
    Also for everyone who still believes that spartan 3s can't hang with 2s Dr Halsey Initially mistook the spartan 3s of noble team for spartan 2s the giveaway was their age until she found out everything about the 3s she assumed someone made another class of 2s without her input she was half right lol

  • @BrabyTheCool177
    @BrabyTheCool177 ปีที่แล้ว

    The black screen in the beginning made me think my TV was off lol

  • @ReclaimerGaming
    @ReclaimerGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need a spartan 3 head hunter game so god damn bad. Imagine a halo bounty hunter game in the human covenant war years.

  • @amdkillaplays
    @amdkillaplays ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see Maethrillian next, it's rarely covered in the Halo universe

  • @zonnodon163
    @zonnodon163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't know about the chemical surgery stuff. So good shit dude

  • @javierchavez4092
    @javierchavez4092 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason I thought S3 were less than S2 is that they were chosen because they are orphans, meant to be produced in mass, cheaply, and sacrificed. The S2 they were sought out with specific markers and were so expensive that they reduced the candidates by half. Kinda made it seem like quality (S2) over quantity (S3). Need to catch up on my novels especially about ferret team in the banished ranks!

    • @Kclanks
      @Kclanks ปีที่แล้ว

      Well you have to remember that humanity was huge, there where easily millions of children orphaned by the covenant, and only around 900 of those were selected as Spartan III's, so despite the fact that there were more quantity, Spartan III's only had slightly less strict genetic vetting than the II's did.

  • @GlitchSystem-xf7jb
    @GlitchSystem-xf7jb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My introduction to the Spartan 3's was from the book Ghost of Onyx. From what I remember was that they where throw away Spartans because they where sent in one way suicide missions. They where kids orphaned when they're world's where glassed by the covenant and secretly trained at an ONI base on a planet Called Onyx witch turned out a hidden Forrunner installation was also at

  • @DaveRiot
    @DaveRiot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know the 3s indoc and training regiment was tougher than the 2s
    Imagine 4 year old kids doing static line parachute jumps into the training zone to kick things off.
    I also know that the older the spartan 3 gets the more they develop and "synergies" with the chemical augmentations slowly but constantly evolving.
    Thier are also a few 3s with the genetic markers required in Halseys selection for her 2s who received further augmentation such as the members of noble team who wear MJLONIR.
    And as it is right now with the advancements in MJLONIR gen 3 that the Spartan 4 have paired with the surviving 3s capability.
    Add to that the headhunters who are probably the most highly trained and most lethal Spartans out there that we'll never here about. The 3s are jus the best IMO

  • @ryanlemmon6728
    @ryanlemmon6728 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Elite: Hey what are 12 kid
    Spartan: breaths heavily

  • @rulies01
    @rulies01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like a more detailed breakdown of the ships both unsc and the covenant

  • @davidgeorge3944
    @davidgeorge3944 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff I only knew a handful of these but was great relearning. I always, found the 3's were treated as inferior to the 2's and it's mainly due to the Mjolnir power armour many 3's didn't get it thus, not being those insanely fast killing machines the 2's were, rather they were just really kickass augmented human orphans which is sad but let's be, far from the depravity of what the UNSC and ONI have been capable of. They were motivated and they were tough as hell. And there was 1 spartan 3 I remember called noble 6.. He was truly a hell of a spartan. Can you do a vi's on Sangeheili (elites next) please?

  • @neilrickoff2940
    @neilrickoff2940 ปีที่แล้ว

    ODST as an entire military unit/culture/espirit de corps, history/historical battles? Would love to see a whole breakdown of the organization within the UNSC

  • @redbing1918
    @redbing1918 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That death at 23:56 takes the piss happens to me all the time on legendary 😂

  • @nomercyinc6783
    @nomercyinc6783 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    spartan 2s were the best spartans ever created.

  • @synthwavespartan2808
    @synthwavespartan2808 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, a 20 out of 10 video.

  • @BarrakiOfToa
    @BarrakiOfToa ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I gotta rewatch your video on the Spartan IIIs 'cause I barely knew anything. 😅

  • @commanderacebenerschadron8587
    @commanderacebenerschadron8587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you cover the top 10 things unknown about Spartan IVs

  • @agoddamnferret
    @agoddamnferret ปีที่แล้ว

    lol the ferrets I love that

  • @jingle9691
    @jingle9691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the misconception that S3s are smaller and weaker than S2s is born from the size difference between Noble team and Jorge, with most members of Noble team roughly 6ft 10inch and Jorge being 7ft 4 inch but we can't say this difference goes for every Spartan 2 and 3. It could also come from the differences between SPI used by the S3s and Mjolnir by the S2s.

  • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
    @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While Spartan 3's are my *favourite* kind of Spartans, they are STILL in generell smaller than Spartan 2's due to the RIDICULOUS augmentation young Spartan 2's went through.
    Ps. *Remember REACH*

    • @jasonzaragoza9413
      @jasonzaragoza9413 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're only smaller because they didn't receive implants, and they didn't receive implants because technology and advanced augmentations rendered them useless. The Spartan III chemical augmentations provided them with every benefit that the Spartan II augmentations provided.

    • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
      @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonzaragoza9413 I know... The Spartan 3 augmentation process was more advanced but like I said, they were in generell smaller than Spartan 2's

    • @flatarthur3161
      @flatarthur3161 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 I don't think they were generally smaller, but there was a greater variation of height because of the more lenient requirements. That's why Lucy was extremely short for a spartan while Kat, B312, and Jun were close to John's height with Kat and B312 being slightly shorter while Jun was a little taller.

    • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
      @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@flatarthur3161 There are different hights, but in generell Spartan 2=taller>Spartan 3

  • @pascallavoie8417
    @pascallavoie8417 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:50 if i remember right, tom and lucy are from bêta company. From what i remember, alpha company all got wiped out. Exept if a few were transfered before the operation, i cant remember.

  • @grizzlybear352
    @grizzlybear352 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spartan 2s are the definition of "Sci-fi Super soldiers"

  • @taylorfrederick4340
    @taylorfrederick4340 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see information such as 10 things you may not know about Elites or brutes, etc. Tell me more about the covenant! Or the banished!

  • @sensufr219
    @sensufr219 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s interesting about the Ferret Team on the spirit of fire after escaping from Castor and the Keepers they felt like they had betrayed him

  • @AntonioPerez-wf2lf
    @AntonioPerez-wf2lf ปีที่แล้ว

    I only read the wiki. But my understanding is the spartan 3 was a army project using majorly chemical augmentations vs 2 being a morely specified gene augmentation.

  • @Kazuko-rq4qd
    @Kazuko-rq4qd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess Spartan-IIIs are like the middle child of the Spartan family - always trying to prove themselves while getting the least attention! 😂

  • @Mikejguevarra
    @Mikejguevarra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    spartan 3’s the suicide squad of the halo universe, down to having a deathwish to avenge their slain family’s

  • @Succubus_Autumn
    @Succubus_Autumn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A new batch of spartan IIIs sounds amazing in the current lore

    • @beastmode1915
      @beastmode1915 ปีที่แล้ว

      Delta Company is an interesting concept to theorise about, but I can’t help but wonder who is training them if not Mendez and obviously not Kurt bc he valiantly sacrificed himself. Maybe some other surviving Spartan-IIIs? Some ONI Agents perhaps?

    • @Succubus_Autumn
      @Succubus_Autumn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beastmode1915 Jun is always an option as he was a bit with IVs but his time table might be a bit full

    • @beastmode1915
      @beastmode1915 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Succubus_Autumn yeah his timetable would definitely be full with the recruitment of new Spartan-IVs, and the fact that if he was to train them he’d be unavailable for a few years, I think it’d conflict too much with established lore. Still, if they wanted a Spartan to head the training, we still have a good few Spartan-IIIs kicking around and who haven’t been picked up by writers for new stories, or they could always write a new character but I’d personally prefer them to use an existing one

  • @camerongooch9606
    @camerongooch9606 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, so many of the fans think 2s are better then 3s in augmentations when the augmentations are just as effective but chemical based.

  • @dedricadams5998
    @dedricadams5998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to mention Hazel-A302 and Owen-B096 being pulled from their companies.

  • @braddavis8909
    @braddavis8909 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:43 imagine being the elite or jackal that landed a supercombine on a spartan only to see them continue to run at you, ignoring the injury

  • @spinetanium3296
    @spinetanium3296 ปีที่แล้ว

    From the thumbnail, they like to sleep. I didn't know that.😂

  • @agentnukaz1715
    @agentnukaz1715 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could spartan 2s recieve chemical augmentation like the 3s to further enhance them?

    • @thezombiesatemyhomework7412
      @thezombiesatemyhomework7412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doubtful, given that the effects were relatively similar. Further still it would probably produce negative effects considering how the S2 augmentation was performed. Their bodies were likely less adept at accepting any substantial changes in physiology.

    • @Kclanks
      @Kclanks ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not because the Spartan II's are already post puberty.

  • @PandemicOfPoop
    @PandemicOfPoop 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thumbnail: he's sleeping not dead. Spartans never die

  • @MrWhite066
    @MrWhite066 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In theory Spartan III’s if they lived long enough they would keep growing becoming more bigger and powerful correct? Meaning they could surpass Spartan II and their only drawn back was not being equip with the same quality of Armor. Could they be the most powerful class then of Spartan?

  • @remickstevens3190
    @remickstevens3190 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did you get the cutscene at 17:25

  • @degheist
    @degheist ปีที่แล้ว

    Im curious what would a spartan be like just as a theory if they went through each spartan program hypothetically

  • @nerd9347.
    @nerd9347. ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Spartan-3, in Indigo Company, Remember Reach.

  • @mythicpeyote
    @mythicpeyote ปีที่แล้ว

    All these augmentations just to be done in with 3 clean shots center mass through titanium alloy armor when shields are down.

  • @theexiledlord1432
    @theexiledlord1432 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always imagine there to be another company for washouts from Alpha and Beta company. Alpha had 497 candidates while Beta had 418 before 300 were chosen to be Spartans. In total of washouts from Alpha and Beta, there would be 315 Spartans who would have the standard augmentations along with a few to improve their speed.
    If that were the case, I imagine 240 or more would be dead either in the Fall of Reach and maybe after the Human-Covenant War. Again, there is a just a little speculation based on what I would think happen to the S3 washouts.
    Edit: Just a little editing.

  • @Upsilon1984
    @Upsilon1984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    B312 best of the Spartan III

  • @stygianoatman
    @stygianoatman ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you cover facts about Cortana next?

  • @kieranriley1624
    @kieranriley1624 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to sit and hav a convo with sum1 who knows the lore this well just so I can make fanmade back stories for my mp Spartans

  • @joehart847
    @joehart847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10 things about the flood

  • @NoNameTaken117
    @NoNameTaken117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do 10 things you might not know about ONI
    Love those backstabbing snakes