Van Eyck, The Arnolfini Portrait

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  • Jan Van Eyck, The Arnolfini Portrait, tempera and oil on wood, 1434 (National Gallery, London). Speakers: Dr. Beth Harris, Dr. Steven Zucker. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
    Learn more about why the woman looks pregnant (spoiler: she isn't): smarthistory.org/arnolfini-pr...

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  • @Guigley
    @Guigley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I think Van Eyck is one of the greatest painters who ever lived for the simple reason that his body of work demonstrates how far one can take their artistic medium. It's almost scary how realistic his work is, yet you are always aware you are looking at a painting and not a photograph.

  • @Sasha0927
    @Sasha0927 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my immediate impressions was how amazing it is he managed to do a detailed mirror of figures at a distance. How talented do you need to be to show objects remembered, reversed, and proportioned JUST to have a small, decorative mirror?! One-haired brush moves, for sure. 😎
    Also, oranges are one of the most adorable humble-brags I've ever seen: "Sorry for flexing on y'all like this, but.. 🍊🍊🍊"
    lol

  • @antigen4
    @antigen4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    what i've always LOVED about this painting is that such painstaking effort has been made to capture detail, accuracy etc and yet there are seemingly gross distortions applied to the body's proportions ...

  • @bev9708
    @bev9708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video opened my eyes to Van Eyck and the Northern Renaissance and I have been making special trips to seek out all the works in Europe that you have highlighted in your videos, including this one, and it has been one of the greatest joys. I stood in tears in front of this one, I was so blown away!!! All thanks to you Beth and Steven 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @SOUNDsculptures
    @SOUNDsculptures 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Fantastic little video, thank you. I just cannot get over the light in this. The window - both the real window and the reflected one in the mirror - are so incredibly captivating, I cannot stop looking at it and the little glimpse of a fruitful season beyond. It's at once both alluring and playful. Simply stunning.

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for pointing out the roundals size - I had no idea they were so tiny. That’s simply amazingly skilled painting.

  • @MCM4PR3Z
    @MCM4PR3Z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1434! Compare this to the other paintings of that period. Incredible! 200 years ahead of his time and even when it would be 200 years younger, he would still be the best painter. The big signature in the middle is there for a reason.

  • @user-yw4fz6xk2j
    @user-yw4fz6xk2j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just love your channel!!! Keep up the good work 🤩❣️☺️💞

  • @josefelipemartinezdomingue9488
    @josefelipemartinezdomingue9488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Que hermosa pintura, nunca me había dado cuenta de tantos detalles que tiene la pintura, gracias por ese video, esta muy bueno.

  • @tigermoth61
    @tigermoth61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is an amazing painting, the fact that their shoes are off, and there are people in the room with them is significant of some kind of serious ceremony, it could even be a bedding ceremony, where guests witnessed their marital union. I thought at first, she was pregnant, but no, it is the way she is holding her gown.

  • @blancaalvarado2258
    @blancaalvarado2258 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent explanation on all the art work that i have seen so far thanks to clarified some of the points in hart history.

  • @bnkundwa
    @bnkundwa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely painting!

  • @frankjamesbonarrigo7162
    @frankjamesbonarrigo7162 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    underrated master. Up there with DaVinci

  • @Michelle-nh2lj
    @Michelle-nh2lj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is literally one of my favorite pieces and it's just because of the different theories

  • @martinweiss3054
    @martinweiss3054 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Also just realized- I believe this painting inspired Velazquez’s Las Meninas! (mirror, dog)

  • @goobi3780
    @goobi3780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s something so eerie and unsettling about this oil painting to me. Especially when you look closer at the mirror behind them and notice the differences between what we see in the foreground and in the reflection. The possible memorial explanation makes this even more uncanny.

    • @hsmd4533
      @hsmd4533 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you elaborate? Mi don’t see a difference between the reflection and the foreground.

  • @olgabai3111
    @olgabai3111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    loved this analysis. thank you.

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    without being too categorical about this, I think the clothes are there for a good reason that may not be more than one thing :
    Weather.
    Bruges is cold, wet and windy the whole year except maybe plain summer. I know weather changed a lot but it is still very "northy" there. You need to protect yourself and of course any excuse is good to use very rich fur coat.

  • @italmia
    @italmia 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    mystic painting. I meditated 20 years on this piece of art. Fascinating. It's a tool, a way to find light. Guess how? (rosary and brush, in and out work, male and female) beauty, love and unity. find it?

    • @ObjectiveZoomer
      @ObjectiveZoomer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What the fuck are you trying to say?

  • @Adeliegentoo
    @Adeliegentoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Citrus ripens in December, when fur-lined clothing would be very welcome in Northern Europe. So maybe the contrast between the fruit and the clothing isn't significant after all.

  • @johntechwriter
    @johntechwriter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Analyses of this work always get hung up on the details and miss the main point: Despite the formality of composition and the seriousness of the subjects' faces required at the time of its creation, what strikes the viewer instantly is the understated yet intimate bond between the man and wife. The work may have been commissioned as a wedding portrait, or as a visual contract, but what the painter's genius could not help but communicate also was the deep love between the man and woman. That love has endured through the centuries and continues to cast a spell on all who view this great masterpiece.

    • @duantorruellas716
      @duantorruellas716 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said .

    • @caligulalonghbottom2629
      @caligulalonghbottom2629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bollocks. they didnt stand there and pose for him, he likely took a sketch of their faces and used mannequins or other models for the posing...

  • @harveerbrar6298
    @harveerbrar6298 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a outstanding painter ..... wowwwwww

  • @marcosanchez2261
    @marcosanchez2261 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent video!

  • @vulgarpotato
    @vulgarpotato 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For the captions at 1:29 she says "always seems to me". Because right now it just says [unintelligible]

  • @fran6b
    @fran6b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't help myself but to see in that portrait a reinterpretation of an annunciation.

  • @Nieosoba
    @Nieosoba 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very interesting, all the symbols, the mirror... thank you.

  • @danthiel8623
    @danthiel8623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oil painting was started in the Netherlands if I recall correctly

  • @1_percent_upgrade
    @1_percent_upgrade 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The golden sunlight falling on each (small) circle surrounding the mirror in the middle of the room represents the weather outside.

  • @sawahtb
    @sawahtb ปีที่แล้ว

    Something I missed in trying to understand the painting is the mirror. We take mirrors for granted in the 20th Century, they're everywhere now. Back then a mirror was extremely rare and expensive, especially one of such quality that you could see reflections of people standing far away. It's magical, the "mirror mirror on the wall".

  • @ruairimasun1073
    @ruairimasun1073 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it's been years since I first saw this painting and it still terrifies me

  • @Tsumami__
    @Tsumami__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also am I the only one who’s wondered if it’s two people or three in the mirror reflection ? It looks like there’s a third head lower than the one on the left.

    • @wtfsherlock5447
      @wtfsherlock5447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I that's van eyk himself. The painter himself? haha

  • @lawsongray63
    @lawsongray63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing to consider, look at the guy's right hand. It is raised as if he is saying wedding vows. Also, there are 2 people in the mirror. Possibly a priest, and someone wearing a red turban/hat, possibly painting the scene in front of them

  • @koksalceylan9032
    @koksalceylan9032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The painting is more about,what Van Eyck's talent and Giniousity.
    Hé whanted to show what hé Able to creat. Hé was a Great painter.

  • @m-bronte
    @m-bronte 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow!

  • @MrsOliva
    @MrsOliva 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Имеются ли в мире художественные школы/заведения, где учат именно в таком, строго старом стиле ?

  • @vgovger4373
    @vgovger4373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the deal with those shoes anyway, what happens to your toes, do they fall off the edge of those pointed parts?

    • @caligulalonghbottom2629
      @caligulalonghbottom2629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they were elongated...plus they were overshoes, you would put them on with your shoes on. its meant to protect the shoes, which were not hard soled and often made of expensive fabrics.

  • @michaelhealy1590
    @michaelhealy1590 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always tell it like it is.

  • @lustbread3147
    @lustbread3147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at the metal plate thing at the center. It has a reflection!?

  • @ina268
    @ina268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating mystery! The theory of a commemorative double portrait commissioned after the lady had gone sounds so poignant... Then he is like Orpheus bringing back and leading his Eurydice from the land of no return by the miracle of art (ars longa, vita brevis? but I guess for their highly religious time it was out of question). As far as I understand it would be offensive to portray such a modest dutiful lady from a family of good standing as being physically pregnant. Still cannot help but think what if she untimely died during childbirth? I don't get it because it was obviously the last thing on the painter's mind to depict her unfavourably and still I believe even 600 years ago a baby bump hint masked by her holding her long wealthy dress wouldn't have been missed by onlookers. Unrelated, but my own simplistic theory is that the painter envisioned wax museums' sculptures back then.

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We have a terrific essay about this: smarthistory.org/arnolfini-pregnancy/

    • @ina268
      @ina268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smarthistory-art-history Thank you, a terrific read indeed! If this appearance of an expectant mother is a typical for its time symbolical depiction of prospective fertility as a virtue of a good wife of a wealthy citizen then it is somewhat questioning the theory that the lady had already passed away before the portrait was commissioned. (Unless they had a child/children which survived their poor mother. Then why these children aren't depicted? For a widower grieving for his wife their children should be dear, on the other hand if she died during childbirth he could probably perceive as if the children "killed" her and don't like them). If she had died childless then this prospective fertility symbolism, as per modern moral standards, would be like salt on his wounds.

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think we are going to be asking these questions for a long time yet. If you like paintings with unresolved questions, have a look at our new essay and our not very new video on Giorgione's The Tempest, smarthistory.org/giorgione-the-tempest/

    • @ina268
      @ina268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smarthistory-art-history Thank you for the suggestion, art riddles are amazing!

  • @Tsumami__
    @Tsumami__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It’s not her dress that’s always made me believe she’s pregnant, it’s the way her hand rests on her belly. And could the fruit in a scene with winter clothing not also be symbolic of a tree bearing fruit, much like women bear children? I still think she’s pregnant. Lol

    • @thedativecase9733
      @thedativecase9733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes we studied this painting in detail when I did A level Art with Art History at secondary school. We went through all the details and theories about the possible meanings of the painting, and nearly the whole class agreed we thought she was pregnant.

  • @sj4632
    @sj4632 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That dog is cute

  • @lamaza12
    @lamaza12 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Better Than a canon camera

  • @Cds2488
    @Cds2488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The dude looks creepy as hell

    • @karllieck9064
      @karllieck9064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "It rubs the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again"

  • @adamocali6097
    @adamocali6097 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    meraviglia

  • @dalumoon776
    @dalumoon776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think she was pregnant.. Look at her hand on the bump! It's a typical sweet maternal touch!

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, she isn't pregnant, read how we know this, in our short essay: smarthistory.org/arnolfini-pregnancy/

  • @deemcg7860
    @deemcg7860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What also gives me the message that this couple were among the wealthy of their time, is what looks like 3 strands of pearls just casually hanging on a nail in the wall by that mirror. Even today rich folks don't just hang up their pearls on a wall LOL...

    • @mckennagrace1754
      @mckennagrace1754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dee mcg those are rosary beads to represent religious commitment/ holy matrimony/

  • @deandrajohnathan3448
    @deandrajohnathan3448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we for a moment look at the mirror? The couple, while their hands are joined by the viewer's eyes, are not joined by hands in the image in the mirror. How interesting.

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is an interesting possibility but I'm not sure this is entirely clear. The mirror is quite small and the scale of the reflected hands within the mirror would be vanishingly small. If you look in the mirror there is a painted diagonal blue projection that may the blue sleeve of the woman and a similar black projection that may be the man's sleeve. It may be that at their proper, nearly microscopic scale, the shadowed backs of the hands would be nearly impossible to either paint or to see. Have a look here: flic.kr/p/27UGqes

    • @deandrajohnathan3448
      @deandrajohnathan3448 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh! Thank you for that clearer image as upon further magnification I can actually see the sleeves extended outwards toward each other. What a fascinating painting! Honestly one of my personal favorites now as I am currently learning Renaissance Art. I was not expecting a response so thank you very much for the clarification.

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a treat to be studying the Renaissance! Glad the photo was helpful.

    • @WhoisWorthy
      @WhoisWorthy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My take and I know nothing, but like to speculate...he is introducing her to friends or family as his maybe wife to be. He holds his hand up to in a way silence or to stress his firm stand of what he is about to tell the people he is talking to because they are shocked or disapproving. Lol. Just my take. Thus the missing hand holding in the mirror symbolizing either their lack of knowledge of the relationship or disapproval.

  • @johnlister463
    @johnlister463 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It seems to me that Mr Arnolfini is not looking at us the viewer but neither is he looking at his wife

  • @gabvsd5934
    @gabvsd5934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really thought she is pregnant!!

  • @arelwenelf
    @arelwenelf 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wouldn't it make sense they're wearing winter clothes? Oranges ripen in the winter.

    • @omegastar19
      @omegastar19 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taylor Larkin-West Because fruit in renaissance and baroque painting was usually an artificial selection and representation that is not based on actual presence. Often, painters would paint fruit baskets that held lots of different types of fruit that in real life did not ripen in the same seasons.

    • @fododude
      @fododude 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The trees outside the window have fruit. It's not winter out there.

    • @caligulalonghbottom2629
      @caligulalonghbottom2629 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fododude Also the oranges could be from Persia imported couldnt they...regardless of the time of year I'd imagine.

  • @armansanti9168
    @armansanti9168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ✌✌✌👍👍👍

  • @rebeccagutierrez1960
    @rebeccagutierrez1960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I doubt it was a wedding portrait.

  • @donvuelta-morales3571
    @donvuelta-morales3571 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I learned this as "Portrait of the Vladimir Putin and Alina Kabaeva."

  • @vgovger4373
    @vgovger4373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like a Vermeer.

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was painted more than 200 years before Vermeer became an artist..

    • @vgovger4373
      @vgovger4373 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smarthistory-art-history ....interesting that Pen and Teller are not trying to figure out how this was done to?

    • @Juliana-Bub
      @Juliana-Bub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't look anything like a Vermeer...

    • @vgovger4373
      @vgovger4373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Juliana-Bub yes it does. This is even the same angular view of the room with a window on the left side. Also has the impossible subtleties in the back wall of shade and value which cannot be perceived by the naked eye.

    • @Juliana-Bub
      @Juliana-Bub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vgovger4373 I can tell that you know nothing about art.

  • @duantorruellas716
    @duantorruellas716 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    She looks pregnant to me , in fact she looks like mary and he looks like Joseph , represented here in a modern setting. Thus the modern style of the dress that reinforces it. This is my take on this masterpiece.

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To learn why she looks pregnant but isn't, see Smarthistory's short essay on the issue: smarthistory.org/arnolfini-pregnancy/

    • @caligulalonghbottom2629
      @caligulalonghbottom2629 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      she isnt pregnant, shes holding up the voluminous folds of her gown...it was way longer than she was tall...its to represent her wealth, the fact she wouldnt have to move around because with that gown...she really couldnt and also the overuse of expensive fabric...probably a very expensive wool.

  • @Lilstinker63
    @Lilstinker63 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The woman looks pregnant

    • @smarthistory-art-history
      @smarthistory-art-history  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Learn more about that here: smarthistory.org/arnolfini-pregnancy/

    • @c_turtle
      @c_turtle ปีที่แล้ว

      Just because the National Gallery says it is not so does not make it true.

  • @dayanmarquina6257
    @dayanmarquina6257 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the dog

  • @lindacozad8826
    @lindacozad8826 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The woman on the right"? Are you kidding?

    • @jdasign
      @jdasign 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      what's wrong with specificity?

  • @marian.g.6754
    @marian.g.6754 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¡MARAVILLOSO!