Holy, it's so fast to make a chess game with Chess Engine & AI from the Unity asset store. (Yet Dana didn't have a problem with the Paddy Pimblett decision.)
What an amazing idea. Incorporate their new IP into a punishment system lol If they become repeat offenders they have to fight the fighters they screwed over.
There is no way in hell that was 'a mistake' from Mike Bell. It is simply impossible that anyone, let alone an enormously experienced judge, could see that round as a 10-8. This means foul play happened, and that merits a deep, thorough investigation into the situation. And if I were Dana I would push for it, because these repeated faulty decisions are eroding the trust in the UFC increasingly, and therefore hurting the brand and its value. That's why it is crucial for Dana to step up and make this investigation happen. Edit: I understand Dana is not the person who appoints and sanctions the judges, but he is an influential man who needs to protect the UFC brand. If he fails to do that the lack of trust of the people will hurt the UFC severely over time. People don't like to be cheated and the real, no-nonsense nature of the sport, and of Dana over the years, is part of the core of the value of the UFC brand, and even more critical going forward. The world wants and needs realness instead of the pervasive toxic lies and political correctness that are all around. This is why Strickland is welcomed so enthusiastically as a champion, because he embodies and speaks that honesty and authenticity.
Dana's apart of it he plays likes he pissed but I guarantee he got say in who wins decisions and they base it off of who gonna draw more money not who actually won the fights the ufc has become a shitshow every since they sold to them Arab mfs
🕰TIME STAMPS🕰 0:08 - Dana thinks Igor da Silva was the best prospect tonight 1:13 - age makes a fighter unique 2:50 - Stephanie Luciano had a 10-8 round against Talita Alencar for the first ever draw in DWCS 4:09 - will Contender Series ever have an international theme season like the one in Brazil? 4:51 - thoughts on the draw between Alexa Grasso 🆚 Valentina Schevchenko 5:43 - the commission has told Dana that Mike Bell isn’t a bad guy 5:56 - Dana wants a trilogy 6:18 - Noche UFC was a gigantic hit 7:07 - this event will be permanent 7:22 - Dana still hasn’t spoken to Izzy (he is clearly busy with some poor dog) 7:50 - more on the 10/8 5th round 8:15 - how was Grasso’s 2nd round not a 10/8, but the 5th was? 8:31 - should the judges have to speak to the media (Dana realizes that will never happen) 9:39 - should Mike Bell speak to Valentina about his rational? 10:11 - UFC Noche pushed Canelo Álvarez out of that date 11:16 - Helen is asking a Power Slap question (why Helen? 🙄) 12:29 - Raul Rosas Jr performance 13:24 - could he headline a fight? (Dana wants him to fight in Mexico) 13:59 - is Valentina going to be ready for a trilogy after her injury? 14:49 - Alexa will most likely fight Valentina in Mexico (I am sure Val will be thrilled to hear that) 16:56 - will UFC Noche stay free? (we already know the answer to that) 17:28 - why did Dana pass on Daniel Allen? 20:29 - Erin Blanchfield 🆚 Manon Fiorot? 22:28 - the Edgar Chairez 🆚 Daniel Lacerda no decision
Mike Bell owes me 320 quid for destroying my accumulator. Wanker.... and I could've cashed out but was 100% certain that Shevchenko would get the decision.
the fact that the judges don't want to deal with the media is irrelevant. most fighters don't want to either. it's about accountability. if they can't be held accountable publicly to justify a 10-8, they shouldn't give it.
i dont believe it was a mistake at all, it was deliberate. he did his math and realized that if he had given that the score it deserved 10(AG)-9(VS), Valentina would have won the fight. it NEEDS to be investigated because the judging lately has been some of the worst ive seen in YEARS.
I am glad to see that people are finally realizing that it's probably not "incompetence." Many people used to say that it was "incompetence." There are millions of dollars at stake; because there exists a thing called "Sports Betting." As long as betting is a thing, then the judges must have federal background checks, they must have a council that oversees their scoring decisions, and they must have regular quality reviews in order to keep their license. It's not Dana White. It would permanently tarnish the sport if the UFC was involved in fight fixing, and it's not worth the short term gain.
when she wins one. you guys dont want to admit she got outgrappled/wrestled. she had her dead like three times and grasso overpowered and outgrappled her each time to get out. not to mention herb who stops every fight early as balls , magically letting this one go when most other refs would have stopped this fight. that 10-8 round in my opinion was planted their to distract everyone from herb giving valentina the chance of a lifetime to come back and steal a win. to say valentina won this fight is crazy and delusional. dont forget the fight ended with grasso also on her back about to blow her up. grasso won fair and square even with the ufc trying ev erything it can to make valentina the champ again.
I understand, the fight should be turned into a no-contest. Because of the judge's "incompetence." But they can't overturn anything, because it sets a precedent and people will start feuding with judges on a daily basis. You can't open the door for people to start big legal battles! But the UFC needs to take action to show responsibility.
Grasso dropped Valentina, landed several damaging knees, ended the fight on top with ground and pound plus heavy sub attempts…. VS Valentina’s one guillotine attempt… sorry but there was no robbery here
not in the 5th rd. there was a robbery if it was 10-9 Valentina would have won. Valentina won the first 3 minutes of the 5th. Anyway, the real champ will be crowned in a couple of weeks.
I agree with Dana White, Mike Bell needs to be investigated hopefully banned from judging or fired. Judges should get asked why they put their results in after every event, and judges should put their results in for round 1, submit it and get another score sheet for round 2 and etc. that way they can’t go back and do the math or change the number of a round to change the fight results.
It's straight up fraud but don't give Dana credit. Athletic comission said he was a good guy so now it's not fraud!? Same guy who scored Chito over Cory! It's not incompetence, it's fraud!
Let’s be honest guys, Dana knows that care wasn’t a “mistake”, but what do you want him to say? Not like he can come out and admit the fight was fixed because it was Mexican Independence Day. I guarantee there are some VERY different conversations being had behind closed doors.
That is controlled by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Chris Lee has been a CROOK FOR YEARS. This time he went too far but hes been an AWFUL judge for years!
@bnegs521 ooooh I see. I hear dana meention the athletics commission a lot when these things happen but I've never understood who or what they are. Thanks 👍
My question is why did they have a champion belt ready to give to valentina in the background during the announced of the draw that was NOT the mexican belt? They had a secondary belt for her and didnt plan on giving her the mexican belt from the get go
Because one of the belts was specially made for Grasso! Same thing as the superbowl winning team t-shirts and hats pre-made to be ready for whatever happens. Hey, I love both fighters, and I like rules. By the rules,and existing crappy scoring system Shevchenko should have won. If there were extra points for passion under duress or what if’s maybe Grasso gets enough points for a draw, but you are having a convenient memory here, because Shevchenko also came very close to cholking out Alexa…Too bad the night was tainted. Trilogy got to happen.
@amyjones64 wasn't it created for Mexicos independence day celebration? Was shevchenko not supposed to put it on her wasn't because she's not Mexican? That's messed up
A lot of people think he mistakenly picked Shev winning the 4th and therefore gave Grasso a 10-8 in the 5th to balance it out, but personally I think this is what really happened. He had Shev winning the 4th, I mean he chose her after all. And then saw her dominating the first 3 and a half minutes of the 5th and was okay with his decision, but then when she slipped on the banana peel and ended the round on bottom almost getting submitted he said aint no way I can pick her winning this fight after it ending like that. And then decided to give Grasso a 10-8. Why do I feel this way? Well a few reasons. One I already answered, I doubt judges really be making mistakes on who they thought won a rd. As it is there's not a ton of pressure when they aren't held responsible anyways. But even more than that, there is this constant fallacy that you have to dominantly beat the champ in order to get the belt and I just don't believe in it. That kind of thinking is what makes champs complacent and they start doing the bare minimum to skate by. Like Izzy and Usman used to do. The person defending should have to defend just as hard as the person taking it. So very likely this idea played a factor. And then ofc the elephant in the room. This dude had Holland beating JDM. He clearly doesn't know how to judge a fight in the first place. So it wouldn't shock me if he was doing this kinda stuff.
@@michaelthomas1923 Yeah, if the draw happened because he gave Alexa 2,4 and 5 with the 3rd round being a 10-8 to Valentina, there wouldn't be as much people complaining
Respect? He just stated it was such a bad decision in boarders of fraud but don't worry the commission said he is not a bad guy so just give him a seminar. This is the same guy who gave Chito the score card win over Sandhagen. It's not incompetence, it's straight up fraud!
@@scottstevens129love how people ignore valentina getting dropped and almost finished, kneed multiple times and almost finished, and nearly finished in 5th
The 10/8 judge clearly violated his trust. Most people would say he called the fight exactly right until the 5th round which makes it seem a whole lot more like he wasn't intoxicated or anything like that. I don't even think he felt "Mexican" pressure due to the location. I think he's not allowed to revise his score card and his honest opinion was the fight should be a draw and he knew he could get away with it. I think its funny all the commotion about it. Round 4 was super close. If all 3 judges had given round 4 to Grasso and all 3 called round 5 10/9 Grasso there is no fuss, just a sizable number thinking round 4 could've gone either way (which it could've). The problem Valentina had was she ended the fight getting beaten up. And she let it go to the scorecard. And it was in Mexico. And she wasn't the champion. Given all of that, what's the fuss about? The only reason Valentina lost either fight to Nunes was Nunes was the existing champion and the judges don't call round 9-9 when a round is essentially a draw. Nunes got the benefit of the doubt. This time Grasso didn't get the benefit of the doubt, just one bad judge who could've been a good judge and still have called it for Grasso. That's on Valentina. And really, Valentina didn't deserve the immediate rematch. The previous fight didn't go to the scorecard. At this point both Valentina and Grasso are significantly better than the field, though Tatiana would have something to say about that. With the way the young ladies are progressing, who knows how long either fighter will be at the top.
It was a Mexican champion, in Mexico, on Mexican Independence day. No way the judges go any other way. Valentina would have had to have won by decapitation.
Dana going all in for Mexicans Independence Day that’s his favorite day now all his chips are on Mexico. 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Dana For the Mexican People
@@RWJ127 sure do.Yes Dana is the president but that still doesn't change the fact that they're the ones in the war room making the fights.That's why they were employed there by TKO Group Holdings - a subsidiary of Endeavor.
The UFC won't be the same again when Dana and Rogan eventually leaves. I even expect UFC to lose viewership when it happens. I think Buffer is the only one who can safely leave and not cause major damage to views. The fighters are easily replaceable instead of the top brass which is very rare in sports.
Khabib made the islam vs Charles and Volk fights so give khabib credit too since he pushed for one of the best mma fights of all time. Khabib was literally telling Dana what to do lol
Judges should absolutely have to answer media questions. If you have that much control over the outcome of something, holding them accountable should be the bare minimum
@@jimberry5318 the 10-8 round indeed was bs, but it was an executive decision. They knew it was going to be exposed, because it was blatantly obvious, but they no longer care because they have long nurtured an army of yes men to salute every poor excuse for an argument to the contrary that this rotten (tho granted, skillful) person offers. It's sooo convenient to have the refereeing body technically separated from the UFC itself, because it allows them to whine like he does here, every time, and make it seem as if they have no control over it. And each time the story gets lapped up blindly, without ever asking the question - how can the refereeing body be this bad for this long, without anyone ever doing anything about it? How is it possible? Well, whenever things keep being inexplicably bad in spite of them being in plain view, the reason is, and always will be, corruption. How many different sports does it take to understand that things always work like that?
Dana did the right thing in promising the rematch, HOWEVER, he also broke the ESPN+ record, and completely dismissed the idea holding the commission accountable (i.e. -- stood up for them in essence). So, the question becomes, why would he go to back for them when they just screwed everything up and it's what the fans want? Is it possible that the personal relationship benefits the UFC more otherwise in some other manner...?
fight was fixed.but now they probably realize how bad it was,like a fight is fast paced so is the scoring,when a draw it was to late to even think about it and then the backlash like this
@@TheMatrixgod Oh god, its one of you people. Do not forget your tin foul hat layered beanie before you go outside. Tell me how the fight was fixed when Grasso clearly won round 2,4,5? yet they still gave it a draw? The only way your argument makes any sense, is if they wanted Valentina to win, because she lost 3 rounds according to people who actually watched the fight.
Shevchenko won 4 rds. Minimum 3 rds. She was completely screwed and should be champ. I like Grasso, she fought great, but she lost and it wasn't that close.
@thecastingdeck8148 Grasso won the 2nd and 5th, Shevchenko won 1st and 3rd. 4th is a tight, close, round, and either fighter getting the nod would be understandable. The problem is this dork making it a 10-8. If it wasn't for that there would be no controversy.
@@thecastingdeck8148I agree, I watched it live and thought she was 3-1 going into the 5th, she completely changed the tide this fight and she inflicted the majority of the damage, and had majority of the control, it’s crazy that people are trying to discredit her because they like Grasso, what’s right is right, she won and she was winning pretty decisively to me, Grasso had moments but Valentina had "rounds" and "dominance", the shit is wack af.
That’s bc that was an understandable dec you ignoramus. 10-8 round 5 makes absolutely no sense whatsoever . But Grasso won rounds 2,4,5 anyway so she should have won that fight regardless of all this 10-8 Bs. Grasso got robbed
@@herbdeanisthegoldstandard8293lmao that girl lost you truly must not understand what you were seeing if you thought she won 3 rounds, and that’s all ima say.
Idk about y’all, but I’m getting tired of the immediate title rematches. Like let the division play out, we want to see new match ups, and truthfully a lot of top guys deserve their shot. Instead we get immediate rematches or the same top 3-5 games rotating around for the title.
I’m not gonna lie it’s was a draw only because schevchenko got saved by the bell and was almost submitted again and almost armbarred but I think was saved by the bell
Lie or not, this is a technical sport with a scoring system, even if it is a bad scoring system. Grasso fought great and can wiggle out of a pinch. And, if you wanna be harping on close calls, it looked like Shevchenko was going to cholk-out Grasso too a few times. My respect to both fighters, but by the rules and actual points, Shevchenko won the fight. She didn’t dominate to the degree she aimed for, and again Grasso is slippery in a pinch and has great punch power, but the fight scoring was wrong; anyone who actually knows how scoring is supposed to go acknowledges the scoring was wrong, and therefore Shevchenko should have won the belt. Trilogy fight is a must.
At this point, with the WWE merger. He might as well have some of them get in the octagon or his guys in the ring now. It's devolved into a freaking circus.
The judge wasn’t wrong on giving Alexa the round considering she was the champion and ended that last round in impressive fashion!! But a 10-8 maybe could be a little much haha
Thank God they are running it back. It would be egregious to not give Valentina a rematch after getting so screwed by Mike Bell. 1-1....need the tie breaker.
Well he should have also scored the 4th for grasso A draw is fair ( that's how I scored it live but actually because of a 10-8 for Valentina in round 3)
@TMeek94 the 4th was a pretty clear Shevchenko rd. Most of tose knees missed, and they weren't very damaging. Shevchenko opened her up with an elbow and rocked her with some solid punches. Damage trumps, and cuts are a big deal when scoring. It goes to Shevchenko based on accumulative damage and the cut.
Could you imagine if the Mexico vs Puerto Rico rivalry spilled into the ufc? You could have two noche ufc's one in New York or Florida for Puerto Rican day in June and one around September 16th for Mexican independence day. Viva Mexico Cabrones!!!
Yeah Izzy might be a big draw, but he didn't really show any aggression (actually he didn't move forward even one time during the fight) against Strickland. I have to believe that when a fighter doesn't show any offense, they shouldn't be awarded an instant rematch; instant rematches are for closely contested, exciting fights.
To those who can't understand how a draw could happen if not for a 10-8 in the 5th ...if the knock down round has been a 10-8 round and the 5th round a 10-9 round or any combo of scoring . The poster did not limit his comment to use the official scores for rounds 1 - 4 ...
Bad judging and should be investigated and done away with. But if you look at every style of fighting, bad judges, especially in boxing. That judge should definitely be fired.
@@bdot9795 the challenger does not call the shots. Dana White said this. So sick of the excuses from DDP. Chael even confirmed that DDP faked an injury to avoid the fight.
No DDP is next! He was injured and they tried to turn him around in 2 months. He said next PPV after and Dana said no! He needed that card filled. DDP Vs Sean Strickland next. And see what Izzy wants to do if he waits for the winner or fights Costa Khamzat winner.
Wow Mike…because of you….the commission has to have not just a meeting…a whole fucking seminar on 10-8’s…because of you….well done bro 😅…somebody probably had to cancel their trip to Mauritius because of this. 😂😂😂 this is like those kids in school where a team of counselors and your parents have to have a meeting about what to do with you and your grades or behavior…..like bro 😂😂😂
4th round could go to Grasso (2 takedowns, ending with an ankle lock). Bell scored it for Schev. He probably realised this when scoring round 5 and corrected to 10-8. Draw is a fair result, Schev opened a cut with her jabs, and came to close to submission, but got almost knockdown and didn’t look to be dominating the fight in the last 2 rounds.
Dude you're literally regurgitating the same nonsense word for word you saw someone else type. I have seen this exact same thing typed word for word over and over to justify this. "He rEalIzED tHIS aND cOrReCtEd It tO 10-8".
@@chipchippahson thanks for the heads up, probably someone else saw it the same way 😂 if you watch the fight it makes sense though. Would it be fair if Schevchenko won after not dominating the fight, almost being knocked down or close to being submitted in the 4th, and ending the fight with a weak round?
The judges judge each round separately. You can't just add or take away points just to equalize the scores from previous rounds. It is unprofessional and not fair. The fight was super close and both fighters could have won, there is no robbery here. But 10-8 for the fifth round is the dumbest thing a referee could do.
@@Woody_Johnson originally UFC didn’t have rounds and scores per round. IMHO scores per round are just a crosscheck to backup the overall impression. The guy/girl should win who got the upper hand when the fight is translated to a street fight. I just assume the judge didn’t see Schevchenko superior overall and corrected it by discounting a later round to make it right. Atomically round 5 is judged wrong in this case, but overall the scoring represents the judge’s opinion.
Dana white on a 20 year old fighter " He's a great kid, talented kid " Dana white on a 38 year old fighter " He's a great kid, talented kid "
Everyone’s a kid when you’re a boomer lol
@@jewmail5395everyone's a kid, period.
Never gets old lol. The quote I mean, not Dana.
Dana white on 46 year old anderson silva “I love everything about this kid”
Dana was doing this 20 years ago lmao 🤣 nothings changed
Holy, it's so fast to make a chess game with Chess Engine & AI from the Unity asset store. (Yet Dana didn't have a problem with the Paddy Pimblett decision.)
@@Realeyesrealizereallies.2000 lol, that must be it. I'm sure it's unrelated to he wants the person who sells more tickets to win.
@@Realeyesrealizereallies.2000not it
@@codeblocks4067what's the connection between Paddy and the Shevchenko fight ?
So you do agree or don't? Sounds like you can't be happy
Move on bud
Ask Dana if he thinks the judge should be power slapped.
That would be funny if bad judging earned you a slap 👋
His mother died two days ago. He is insane 😢😢😢
@@AussieArmenian they hated each other you fool
What an amazing idea. Incorporate their new IP into a punishment system lol If they become repeat offenders they have to fight the fighters they screwed over.
@@AussieArmenian"My mom was NEVER my friend."
- Dana White
John Morgan still hasnt done 10 pushups.
Colby ? He's lost ALLOT of weight actually. Can't say about the pushups tho
@@floatinggoose9197he’s lost weight in the mcdonalds queue waiting I guess 😂
wtf . i totally remembered colby said that , right when he talked.
then i scroll down and see this. im too high
And Colby still hasn't won the belt so I guess they're even 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@TheChiWithin nah I don't think he wins it even against Leon Pedwards
There is no way in hell that was 'a mistake' from Mike Bell. It is simply impossible that anyone, let alone an enormously experienced judge, could see that round as a 10-8. This means foul play happened, and that merits a deep, thorough investigation into the situation. And if I were Dana I would push for it, because these repeated faulty decisions are eroding the trust in the UFC increasingly, and therefore hurting the brand and its value. That's why it is crucial for Dana to step up and make this investigation happen.
Edit: I understand Dana is not the person who appoints and sanctions the judges, but he is an influential man who needs to protect the UFC brand. If he fails to do that the lack of trust of the people will hurt the UFC severely over time. People don't like to be cheated and the real, no-nonsense nature of the sport, and of Dana over the years, is part of the core of the value of the UFC brand, and even more critical going forward. The world wants and needs realness instead of the pervasive toxic lies and political correctness that are all around. This is why Strickland is welcomed so enthusiastically as a champion, because he embodies and speaks that honesty and authenticity.
Bullet lost keep crying😂
Lol no
Dana's apart of it he plays likes he pissed but I guarantee he got say in who wins decisions and they base it off of who gonna draw more money not who actually won the fights the ufc has become a shitshow every since they sold to them Arab mfs
@@katana_3558she actually didn't lose. Even with that bogus judge score. She literally didn't lose. No one lost idiot lol
@@SmokinPurple502facts
Dana on the recent passing of his father. “I never liked that kid”
Dana on Chuck Liddell's 60th Vegas bday party: "that kid is amazing, I love that kid"
Who told Dana white his game got 350 mil downloads.? Now I can’t trust any number he throws around
🕰TIME STAMPS🕰
0:08 - Dana thinks Igor da Silva was the best prospect tonight
1:13 - age makes a fighter unique
2:50 - Stephanie Luciano had a 10-8 round against Talita Alencar for the first ever draw in DWCS
4:09 - will Contender Series ever have an international theme season like the one in Brazil?
4:51 - thoughts on the draw between Alexa Grasso 🆚 Valentina Schevchenko
5:43 - the commission has told Dana that Mike Bell isn’t a bad guy
5:56 - Dana wants a trilogy
6:18 - Noche UFC was a gigantic hit
7:07 - this event will be permanent
7:22 - Dana still hasn’t spoken to Izzy (he is clearly busy with some poor dog)
7:50 - more on the 10/8 5th round
8:15 - how was Grasso’s 2nd round not a 10/8, but the 5th was?
8:31 - should the judges have to speak to the media (Dana realizes that will never happen)
9:39 - should Mike Bell speak to Valentina about his rational?
10:11 - UFC Noche pushed Canelo Álvarez out of that date
11:16 - Helen is asking a Power Slap question (why Helen? 🙄)
12:29 - Raul Rosas Jr performance
13:24 - could he headline a fight? (Dana wants him to fight in Mexico)
13:59 - is Valentina going to be ready for a trilogy after her injury?
14:49 - Alexa will most likely fight Valentina in Mexico (I am sure Val will be thrilled to hear that)
16:56 - will UFC Noche stay free? (we already know the answer to that)
17:28 - why did Dana pass on Daniel Allen?
20:29 - Erin Blanchfield 🆚 Manon Fiorot?
22:28 - the Edgar Chairez 🆚 Daniel Lacerda no decision
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Mike Bell owes me 320 quid for destroying my accumulator. Wanker.... and I could've cashed out but was 100% certain that Shevchenko would get the decision.
My father was a a boxing judge for the NYAC . When a judge says he made a mistake on a scorecard the fix was in…..
How many fights did your dad fix?
doesn't take an ex judge to know it was
@@Paul-ew5sttoo add to that, what fights were they?
Valentina got screwed by 1 judge, she should be the champ.
@5:00
the fact that the judges don't want to deal with the media is irrelevant. most fighters don't want to either. it's about accountability. if they can't be held accountable publicly to justify a 10-8, they shouldn't give it.
i dont believe it was a mistake at all, it was deliberate. he did his math and realized that if he had given that the score it deserved 10(AG)-9(VS), Valentina would have won the fight. it NEEDS to be investigated because the judging lately has been some of the worst ive seen in YEARS.
Money and gambling go hand in hand.
I am glad to see that people are finally realizing that it's probably not "incompetence." Many people used to say that it was "incompetence." There are millions of dollars at stake; because there exists a thing called "Sports Betting." As long as betting is a thing, then the judges must have federal background checks, they must have a council that oversees their scoring decisions, and they must have regular quality reviews in order to keep their license. It's not Dana White. It would permanently tarnish the sport if the UFC was involved in fight fixing, and it's not worth the short term gain.
I don't know about the mathematical scoring of what a 10-8 should be but in my opinion Grasso won those last two rounds for sure.
stop crying xD !
It had to be deliberately
Thanks Dana to confirm the Trilogy Valentina vs Graso
I still don’t understand why the decision cannot be overturned. That is truly what needs to happen.
Rematch $
😂😂
when she wins one. you guys dont want to admit she got outgrappled/wrestled. she had her dead like three times and grasso overpowered and outgrappled her each time to get out. not to mention herb who stops every fight early as balls , magically letting this one go when most other refs would have stopped this fight. that 10-8 round in my opinion was planted their to distract everyone from herb giving valentina the chance of a lifetime to come back and steal a win. to say valentina won this fight is crazy and delusional. dont forget the fight ended with grasso also on her back about to blow her up. grasso won fair and square even with the ufc trying ev erything it can to make valentina the champ again.
I understand, the fight should be turned into a no-contest. Because of the judge's "incompetence." But they can't overturn anything, because it sets a precedent and people will start feuding with judges on a daily basis. You can't open the door for people to start big legal battles! But the UFC needs to take action to show responsibility.
@@mariopena4129tell me your mexican without telling me your mexican. Your delusions are quite sad.
Soon as I saw the title of this video, I knew it was going to another banger from Uncle Dana!
Lmao Dana "now we're in Ireland. You blew it kid ."
Shev vs Pena for vacant BW title. Grasso vs Blanchfield for FW title.
Aljo hearing dana say " yes, rematch"
Must be haunting
Well aljo got face planted lmao
@@thenedsmmachannel8970 and adesanya lost 2 of his 3
@X22689 yeah the dog fiddler can fight the winner of Costa/Chimeav and Sean vs DDP
@@thenedsmmachannel8970 agreed
I disagree with Dana & believe it was a fair 10-8 round. I like and respected both ladies & think a rematch s appropriate.
Everyone is held accountable for their mistakes at their work except judges.
Grasso dropped Valentina, landed several damaging knees, ended the fight on top with ground and pound plus heavy sub attempts…. VS Valentina’s one guillotine attempt… sorry but there was no robbery here
not in the 5th rd. there was a robbery if it was 10-9 Valentina would have won. Valentina won the first 3 minutes of the 5th. Anyway, the real champ will be crowned in a couple of weeks.
@@JACKSONVR-r8yyou were right!
I agree with Dana White, Mike Bell needs to be investigated hopefully banned from judging or fired.
Judges should get asked why they put their results in after every event, and judges should put their results in for round 1, submit it and get another score sheet for round 2 and etc. that way they can’t go back and do the math or change the number of a round to change the fight results.
That will resolve loads of the problems
I'm with u
If they wanted to win they should have finished
It's straight up fraud but don't give Dana credit. Athletic comission said he was a good guy so now it's not fraud!? Same guy who scored Chito over Cory! It's not incompetence, it's fraud!
You realize that’s the way it works. They write down the score during the fight and can’t go back.
I wonder if the fact that Luciano looks like a model has anything to do with the contract.
Let’s be honest guys, Dana knows that care wasn’t a “mistake”, but what do you want him to say? Not like he can come out and admit the fight was fixed because it was Mexican Independence Day. I guarantee there are some VERY different conversations being had behind closed doors.
That makes a lot of sense..
He’s talking about views on espn while I’m out here streaming every event for free 🤣
Im not paying to see regional Brazilian WMMA fights lol
😂😂 I also stream every event. Save thousands of people money. And I always make mine back.
@@rayboutin9058 There is a 99,99% chance nothing will happen but it's stupid to brag about streaming your paid for stream to others online.
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I never paid
So they're just gonna let this judge keep working fights???
I don't think the UFC makes that decision believe it or not
That is controlled by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Chris Lee has been a CROOK FOR YEARS. This time he went too far but hes been an AWFUL judge for years!
@bnegs521 ooooh I see. I hear dana meention the athletics commission a lot when these things happen but I've never understood who or what they are. Thanks 👍
My question is why did they have a champion belt ready to give to valentina in the background during the announced of the draw that was NOT the mexican belt? They had a secondary belt for her and didnt plan on giving her the mexican belt from the get go
Because one of the belts was specially made for Grasso! Same thing as the superbowl winning team t-shirts and hats pre-made to be ready for whatever happens. Hey, I love both fighters, and I like rules. By the rules,and existing crappy scoring system Shevchenko should have won. If there were extra points for passion under duress or what if’s maybe Grasso gets enough points for a draw, but you are having a convenient memory here, because Shevchenko also came very close to cholking out Alexa…Too bad the night was tainted. Trilogy got to happen.
@amyjones64 wasn't it created for Mexicos independence day celebration? Was shevchenko not supposed to put it on her wasn't because she's not Mexican? That's messed up
Valentina has been robbed TWICE. That’s wild…
She definitely was and the fact that people truly will go out of their way to justify the blatant cheating and bias against Valentina it’s wild af.
It makes perfect sense. Its called sports betting. Shit like that has been going on for decades in pro sports
A lot of people think he mistakenly picked Shev winning the 4th and therefore gave Grasso a 10-8 in the 5th to balance it out, but personally I think this is what really happened. He had Shev winning the 4th, I mean he chose her after all. And then saw her dominating the first 3 and a half minutes of the 5th and was okay with his decision, but then when she slipped on the banana peel and ended the round on bottom almost getting submitted he said aint no way I can pick her winning this fight after it ending like that. And then decided to give Grasso a 10-8.
Why do I feel this way? Well a few reasons. One I already answered, I doubt judges really be making mistakes on who they thought won a rd. As it is there's not a ton of pressure when they aren't held responsible anyways. But even more than that, there is this constant fallacy that you have to dominantly beat the champ in order to get the belt and I just don't believe in it. That kind of thinking is what makes champs complacent and they start doing the bare minimum to skate by. Like Izzy and Usman used to do. The person defending should have to defend just as hard as the person taking it. So very likely this idea played a factor. And then ofc the elephant in the room. This dude had Holland beating JDM. He clearly doesn't know how to judge a fight in the first place. So it wouldn't shock me if he was doing this kinda stuff.
how she was wimning majority of the fight n outstriked her 2
Usman, excluding the 1st Masvidal fight, always put a good performance
That is exactly what happened. A draw is a fair score, but you can't do what he did to make it happen.
You can say that about Izzy on a few occasions, but Usman has always been aggressive and dominant, whether you find his style entertaining or not
@@michaelthomas1923 Yeah, if the draw happened because he gave Alexa 2,4 and 5 with the 3rd round being a 10-8 to Valentina, there wouldn't be as much people complaining
The way he says "Whats up guys" at the beginning 😂
So glad the trilogy is happening mad respect to Dana and the ufc💯
Yea man cuz that was bull
Respect? He just stated it was such a bad decision in boarders of fraud but don't worry the commission said he is not a bad guy so just give him a seminar. This is the same guy who gave Chito the score card win over Sandhagen. It's not incompetence, it's straight up fraud!
Grasso will whoop vanentinas ass for a 3rd time
@@scottstevens129facts
@@scottstevens129love how people ignore valentina getting dropped and almost finished, kneed multiple times and almost finished, and nearly finished in 5th
Imagine paying millions of dollars a year just to stop people from cheating.😂
That's literally what most sports do.
What’s the alternative dummy?
Every sport league does it, it’s pretty common.
Imagine paying hundreds of thousands just to keep a roof over your head.
*just to make it a little bit harder for people to cheat
Love how no one talks about the round where Valentina dominated the whole round, won on the feet and had a guillotine locked in.
The mexinas are as crooked as the Chinese
The 10/8 might have been the worst scoring ive seen in a long time..when i first heard it i was like how do you figure!
Never leave it to the judges
Has never rung truer
350 mill downloads.. Dana is a suupercapper, omfg. So the UFC-game is more than 43 times bigger than EA Sports FIFA, huh? ☠️☠️
Dana had been introduced to Conor's coke dealer.
“You blew it kid.” That was funny!
The 10/8 judge clearly violated his trust. Most people would say he called the fight exactly right until the 5th round which makes it seem a whole lot more like he wasn't intoxicated or anything like that. I don't even think he felt "Mexican" pressure due to the location. I think he's not allowed to revise his score card and his honest opinion was the fight should be a draw and he knew he could get away with it. I think its funny all the commotion about it. Round 4 was super close. If all 3 judges had given round 4 to Grasso and all 3 called round 5 10/9 Grasso there is no fuss, just a sizable number thinking round 4 could've gone either way (which it could've). The problem Valentina had was she ended the fight getting beaten up. And she let it go to the scorecard. And it was in Mexico. And she wasn't the champion. Given all of that, what's the fuss about? The only reason Valentina lost either fight to Nunes was Nunes was the existing champion and the judges don't call round 9-9 when a round is essentially a draw. Nunes got the benefit of the doubt. This time Grasso didn't get the benefit of the doubt, just one bad judge who could've been a good judge and still have called it for Grasso. That's on Valentina. And really, Valentina didn't deserve the immediate rematch. The previous fight didn't go to the scorecard. At this point both Valentina and Grasso are significantly better than the field, though Tatiana would have something to say about that. With the way the young ladies are progressing, who knows how long either fighter will be at the top.
No like dana said valentina deserves a rematch. No need to blab on the way you did.
Damn dude write a novel while you're at it. Jeez! Talk about passionate TH-cam comment 😂😂😂
love that the most watched part is the most meme-able line🤣 5:08
3:19 yeah Dana its called a BONER.
That judge CAN NOT have anything to do w the rematch . Let him ref flag football or a softball game . He has no business in an MMA arena . PERIOD
9:00 clown dana acts like he isnt part of the fixing
He's not
There is no fixing
20:45 Almost tought homie was gonna say Stricklands vs Adesanya in China
Dana "You have to do the rematch" White
Dana is right
It was a Mexican champion, in Mexico, on Mexican Independence day. No way the judges go any other way. Valentina would have had to have won by decapitation.
Technically it was in Las Vegas, but yeah, in a way, most of the southwest United States sure seems like Mexico at times. 😩
@@dornishred6033lol I thought he was getting away with that.
That’s that cartel money.
Can’t believe power slap is approved by commissions, absolutely insane
Why
@@shonuffLA Maybe cause it's just stupid and making no sense at all, but they going into it for TH-cam kids
That's the future of sports guys
But it's bigger than every sport combined allegedly
They get paid so they don’t care.
This Grasso vs. Shevchenko rivalry may become the greatest rivalry in wmma history.
I thought Dana sounded drunk.. nope I just had my speed at 0.75
Dana going all in for Mexicans Independence Day that’s his favorite day now all his chips are on Mexico. 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Dana For the Mexican People
The fight was so entertaining I don’t know why real fans wouldn’t mind a trilogy
They don’t want Bullet to win. That’s the only reason.
We get Blanchfield vs Manon along with it, so no point in people complaining.
People aren’t complaining for no reason.. we’re tired of the bullshit bad judging..
As great as this 3rd fight is about to be, I’d rather not have a 3rd fight and have this past fight be judged correctly
time stamps please, every time
Good on Uncle Dana speaking real on the 10-8 against Valentina!
Don't give him props. That's called damage control. He just saved them from any accountability.
Alexa still should have got the decision judges fucked it up royally. The proper score care was 48-47 grasso
Dana basically ending it with *I give out info on my terms*
Dana for the Mexican people!!!
Stephanie is wicked cute but will get destroyed in the UFC.
Dana sure in the hell knows how to set up fights the best ever to do it
Actually Dana doesn't have much say in choosing the fights and neither does Hunter.It's Joe Silva and Sean Shelby that are the ones to make fights.
@@joshm3129 you know they answer to Dana right?
@@RWJ127 sure do.Yes Dana is the president but that still doesn't change the fact that they're the ones in the war room making the fights.That's why they were employed there by TKO Group Holdings - a subsidiary of Endeavor.
The UFC won't be the same again when Dana and Rogan eventually leaves. I even expect UFC to lose viewership when it happens. I think Buffer is the only one who can safely leave and not cause major damage to views. The fighters are easily replaceable instead of the top brass which is very rare in sports.
Khabib made the islam vs Charles and Volk fights so give khabib credit too since he pushed for one of the best mma fights of all time. Khabib was literally telling Dana what to do lol
Judges should absolutely have to answer media questions. If you have that much control over the outcome of something, holding them accountable should be the bare minimum
You can't force people to answer media questions.
Im sure there's other ways to hold people accountable.
Ah, the standard 'judges do exactly what Dana wants, and then Dana is livid' routine. Never grows old.
Exactly lol. 'oh no, the champ from Mexico, the country where I want to expand, won'
lol your nuts if you believe that
It's hilarious (and kinda sad) how many people think he's actually mad with the judges
He's not mad at the judge he's mad it got exposed so quick......the 10-8 round was bs
@@jimberry5318 the 10-8 round indeed was bs, but it was an executive decision. They knew it was going to be exposed, because it was blatantly obvious, but they no longer care because they have long nurtured an army of yes men to salute every poor excuse for an argument to the contrary that this rotten (tho granted, skillful) person offers.
It's sooo convenient to have the refereeing body technically separated from the UFC itself, because it allows them to whine like he does here, every time, and make it seem as if they have no control over it. And each time the story gets lapped up blindly, without ever asking the question - how can the refereeing body be this bad for this long, without anyone ever doing anything about it? How is it possible? Well, whenever things keep being inexplicably bad in spite of them being in plain view, the reason is, and always will be, corruption.
How many different sports does it take to understand that things always work like that?
Ask Dana if he thinks the judge should be power slapped.. Can’t believe power slap is approved by commissions, absolutely insane.
Dana did the right thing in promising the rematch, HOWEVER, he also broke the ESPN+ record, and completely dismissed the idea holding the commission accountable (i.e. -- stood up for them in essence). So, the question becomes, why would he go to back for them when they just screwed everything up and it's what the fans want? Is it possible that the personal relationship benefits the UFC more otherwise in some other manner...?
I think the commission goes way deeper and way darker... I think it's basically Mafia.
The ufc cannot deal with the commission. It's independent.
That's the whole point.
fight was fixed.but now they probably realize how bad it was,like a fight is fast paced so is the scoring,when a draw it was to late to even think about it and then the backlash like this
@@TheMatrixgodu must be a casual to believe the fight is FIXED!!!.
@@TheMatrixgod Oh god, its one of you people. Do not forget your tin foul hat layered beanie before you go outside. Tell me how the fight was fixed when Grasso clearly won round 2,4,5? yet they still gave it a draw? The only way your argument makes any sense, is if they wanted Valentina to win, because she lost 3 rounds according to people who actually watched the fight.
there should be a judges enquiry immediately after the figgt where the score can be corrected
This dude yoked lmao went skiing right before he walked out on stage 😂
Best parts of every week are these Dana White pressers
I will be in the ufc
That was such a bullshit decision. Valentina won and should have walked away with her belt.
Grasso won 3-2. Yes Valentina was winning the final rd but she ended the fight nearly getting choked out. That lost her that rd. Wasn’t a 10-8 tho
Shevchenko won 4 rds. Minimum 3 rds. She was completely screwed and should be champ. I like Grasso, she fought great, but she lost and it wasn't that close.
But if it were a 10-9 Valentina wins, and everyone agrees it was not a 10-8 .
@@thecastingdeck8148it was absolutely a close fight and she didn’t win 4 rounds
@thecastingdeck8148 Grasso won the 2nd and 5th, Shevchenko won 1st and 3rd. 4th is a tight, close, round, and either fighter getting the nod would be understandable. The problem is this dork making it a 10-8. If it wasn't for that there would be no controversy.
@@thecastingdeck8148I agree, I watched it live and thought she was 3-1 going into the 5th, she completely changed the tide this fight and she inflicted the majority of the damage, and had majority of the control, it’s crazy that people are trying to discredit her because they like Grasso, what’s right is right, she won and she was winning pretty decisively to me, Grasso had moments but Valentina had "rounds" and "dominance", the shit is wack af.
When he first picks the mic up “what’s up guys 💅🏻 “
2nd view from meghalaya ...favorite fan of Connor McGregor
Uhh, cool man😊
lol dana goin off on judges like he didnt pay them to have grasso to retain. funny
THAT was the craziest shit you've seen Dana? What fights have you been watching? Judges been acting wild. 😂
Woodly vs Thompson was crazier or Hendricks vs gsp
either way grasso deserved the title , she was about to submit her at the end of the fight and thats what counts
Dana's reaction to judges with the paddy/Jared fight was a little different....😂
He wasn't bothered when judges gave the W to Valentina when she fought Santos
He wasn't bothered when judges gave omalley that horrible decision
That’s bc that was an understandable dec you ignoramus. 10-8 round 5 makes absolutely no sense whatsoever . But Grasso won rounds 2,4,5 anyway so she should have won that fight regardless of all this 10-8 Bs. Grasso got robbed
That was a close fight but Valentina won.
@@herbdeanisthegoldstandard8293lmao that girl lost you truly must not understand what you were seeing if you thought she won 3 rounds, and that’s all ima say.
@@justenzo7666what rounds did talia win?
Mamma decisions has Val winning both fights
A draw is a good day for the bookies. Just saying...
Idk about y’all, but I’m getting tired of the immediate title rematches. Like let the division play out, we want to see new match ups, and truthfully a lot of top guys deserve their shot. Instead we get immediate rematches or the same top 3-5 games rotating around for the title.
It's just bias from dana, valantina and izzy deserve a rematch but aljo doesn't
If nothing happens then the commission needs investigating and replacing.
I’m not gonna lie it’s was a draw only because schevchenko got saved by the bell and was almost submitted again and almost armbarred but I think was saved by the bell
She should’ve tried harder on the armbar then
OK but those are the rules you can't finish someone after the bell. So you think nate diaz beat leon?
Lie or not, this is a technical sport with a scoring system, even if it is a bad scoring system. Grasso fought great and can wiggle out of a pinch. And, if you wanna be harping on close calls, it looked like Shevchenko was going to cholk-out Grasso too a few times. My respect to both fighters, but by the rules and actual points, Shevchenko won the fight. She didn’t dominate to the degree she aimed for, and again Grasso is slippery in a pinch and has great punch power, but the fight scoring was wrong; anyone who actually knows how scoring is supposed to go acknowledges the scoring was wrong, and therefore Shevchenko should have won the belt. Trilogy fight is a must.
I don't want to imagine a world where I don't get to listen to Dana white press conferences.
At this point, with the WWE merger. He might as well have some of them get in the octagon or his guys in the ring now. It's devolved into a freaking circus.
Who sanctioned this
@@daniellebrooks7510 the Securities and Exchange Commission. New stock market ticker symbol is TKO
It's been a circus for years now
@lukemurray4950 that's why they should treat it as such.
MMA will become a better sport the moment people stop caring what Dana White thinks about fighting, or who he's "mad" at.
The judge wasn’t wrong on giving Alexa the round considering she was the champion and ended that last round in impressive fashion!! But a 10-8 maybe could be a little much haha
Val slipped and Grasso did nothing. Shevchenko dominated the fight. The crowd persuaded everyone watching
Thank God they are running it back. It would be egregious to not give Valentina a rematch after getting so screwed by Mike Bell. 1-1....need the tie breaker.
1-0-1
Well he should have also scored the 4th for grasso
A draw is fair ( that's how I scored it live but actually because of a 10-8 for Valentina in round 3)
@TMeek94 the 4th was a pretty clear Shevchenko rd. Most of tose knees missed, and they weren't very damaging. Shevchenko opened her up with an elbow and rocked her with some solid punches. Damage trumps, and cuts are a big deal when scoring. It goes to Shevchenko based on accumulative damage and the cut.
@@thecastingdeck8148 must not have been clear since most people were split on that round
The boxing scoring method is ridiculous for mma, I would concentrate more on that, rather than chewing out judges.
Could you imagine if the Mexico vs Puerto Rico rivalry spilled into the ufc? You could have two noche ufc's one in New York or Florida for Puerto Rican day in June and one around September 16th for Mexican independence day.
Viva Mexico Cabrones!!!
There are no good puerto rico fighters
In ufc.
you trying to give izzy another rematch is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life
Yeah Izzy might be a big draw, but he didn't really show any aggression (actually he didn't move forward even one time during the fight) against Strickland. I have to believe that when a fighter doesn't show any offense, they shouldn't be awarded an instant rematch; instant rematches are for closely contested, exciting fights.
@@starseeddeluxe I totally agree with you
Dana hit us with the nice soft “what’s up guys”
Dana's mother died two days ago. This guy never mentioned her. That's both parents gone. He is a true sociopath
Require that 10-8 only be counted if 2 out of 3 judges score the round 10-8. If only one ref scores 10-8 it gets upgraded to a 10-9.
Running it back in Mexico? Valentina gonna lose her shit 😭
Why not? She got a lot of Mexican fans. She will be down to fight anywhere
You know what makes no sense? That judges are not being interviewed, and as far as I have heard, reporters are not allowed to......
I agree with the draw.. i even called it a draw after the 5th round… but there’s no way in hell the 5th was a 10-8
There's no way in hell that fight gets scored a draw without a 10-8 though.
So then how is it a draw?
@D-V-C-N Lmfaooo, people just be talking to talk. I swear to god..
Because of 10-8 the result is a draw. It cannot be a draw if the result is 10-9.
To those who can't understand how a draw could happen if not for a 10-8 in the 5th ...if the knock down round has been a 10-8 round and the 5th round a 10-9 round or any combo of scoring . The poster did not limit his comment to use the official scores for rounds 1 - 4 ...
Bad judging and should be investigated and done away with. But if you look at every style of fighting, bad judges, especially in boxing. That judge should definitely be fired.
Izzy vs DDP. Sean vs Khamzat. Simple.
Have khamzat fight izzy, and ddp vs sean
@@hhzshaun947 nope. DDP had his opportunity and he blew it.
@@sandman62100by not fighting injured?
@@bdot9795 the challenger does not call the shots. Dana White said this. So sick of the excuses from DDP. Chael even confirmed that DDP faked an injury to avoid the fight.
No DDP is next! He was injured and they tried to turn him around in 2 months. He said next PPV after and Dana said no! He needed that card filled. DDP Vs Sean Strickland next. And see what Izzy wants to do if he waits for the winner or fights Costa Khamzat winner.
Wow Mike…because of you….the commission has to have not just a meeting…a whole fucking seminar on 10-8’s…because of you….well done bro 😅…somebody probably had to cancel their trip to Mauritius because of this. 😂😂😂 this is like those kids in school where a team of counselors and your parents have to have a meeting about what to do with you and your grades or behavior…..like bro 😂😂😂
4th round could go to Grasso (2 takedowns, ending with an ankle lock). Bell scored it for Schev. He probably realised this when scoring round 5 and corrected to 10-8. Draw is a fair result, Schev opened a cut with her jabs, and came to close to submission, but got almost knockdown and didn’t look to be dominating the fight in the last 2 rounds.
Dude you're literally regurgitating the same nonsense word for word you saw someone else type. I have seen this exact same thing typed word for word over and over to justify this. "He rEalIzED tHIS aND cOrReCtEd It tO 10-8".
@@chipchippahson thanks for the heads up, probably someone else saw it the same way 😂 if you watch the fight it makes sense though. Would it be fair if Schevchenko won after not dominating the fight, almost being knocked down or close to being submitted in the 4th, and ending the fight with a weak round?
The judges judge each round separately. You can't just add or take away points just to equalize the scores from previous rounds. It is unprofessional and not fair. The fight was super close and both fighters could have won, there is no robbery here. But 10-8 for the fifth round is the dumbest thing a referee could do.
@@Woody_Johnson originally UFC didn’t have rounds and scores per round. IMHO scores per round are just a crosscheck to backup the overall impression. The guy/girl should win who got the upper hand when the fight is translated to a street fight. I just assume the judge didn’t see Schevchenko superior overall and corrected it by discounting a later round to make it right. Atomically round 5 is judged wrong in this case, but overall the scoring represents the judge’s opinion.