Selenium Toning - ILFORD Photo Darkroom guides - Episode 2

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  • In the second video in our 'how to' Darkroom Guides series, we asked Rachel Brewster-Wright, to show you how simple it is to add additional warmth and depth to your black and white darkroom prints with HARMAN Selenium Toner.
    Rachel from Little Vintage Photography is a film photographer, educator and co-host of the Sunny16 podcast. You can find out more about here at www.littlevintagephotography.com.
    In this video Rachel uses:
    HARMAN Selenium toner www.ilfordphoto.com/1143207
    ILFORD MULTIGRADE RC WARMTONE www.ilfordphoto.com/photograp...
    A film by: Tomfoolery (www.tomfoolery.ltd)

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  • @Ilfordphoto
    @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This next one of our ILFORD Photo 'How to' darkroom guides is a very simple video showing how easy it is to add additional warmth and depth in your darkroom prints by using our Selenium toner. Rachel shows you the very simple steps involved using one of her previously printed black and white darkroom photos. Thank you again to Rachel or agreeing to help us with the series. We really hope you enjoy watching them and we'd love to hear if you try Selenium toning after watching this video.

  • @starvingartistscollective
    @starvingartistscollective 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ILFORD makes me happy!! As a student I learnt photography and spent many happy hours in the darkroom experimenting with predominantly IlFORD products. Still have some of my old film cameras and watching these videos is setting off an itch to dig everything out of the attic. TFS!!

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! You should definitely get those film cameras loaded up with some black and white film and get out shooting.

  • @ptbfrch
    @ptbfrch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video! Best process is to pour chemicals into water, not the other way around; this helps eliminate splashing of concentrated toner if a mishap occurs.

  • @donsusedphoto
    @donsusedphoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another lovely video by Rachel Brewster-Wright and Ilford Photo. Very informative. Thank you.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks guys, glad you enjoyed it. Please feel free to embed it on your website and share away!

  • @MrHolga
    @MrHolga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love Rachel's Ilford Photo videos. It make me want to set-up a darkroom. Cheers.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you - We're really looking forward to sharing the others in this series as soon as we are able to.

  • @esobeegarage
    @esobeegarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very refreshing to have a female host! Nice work!

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching Taylor. We love how enthusiastic Rachel is about sharing her love of printing and teaching others so she was the perfect choice for this series of darkroom 'How to' videos. have you seen the earlier video on Dodging 7 Burning? th-cam.com/video/b-keDPtVnGA/w-d-xo.html

    • @rachelbrewster-wright9297
      @rachelbrewster-wright9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching Taylor and for the support! Great to hear you've enjoyed it 👍

  • @stolenorange
    @stolenorange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is pure gold. Good info. Very useful to look at alternative processes.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. Do you enjoy alternate process? Which others have you tried?

    • @stolenorange
      @stolenorange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ilfordphoto Cyanotype a long time ago. Also scratching negatives to get an etched look.

    • @stolenorange
      @stolenorange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to learn more about this subject.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stolenorange I've seen a few people experimenting with scratching negatives recently. It's an interesting effect

  • @andyvan5692
    @andyvan5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beutiful shot, and the toned look afterwards, looks essentially like a tintype or wet colloiden glass print, the contrast and brown look, great.

  • @marioscandale3005
    @marioscandale3005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    VERY INTERESTING AND CLEAR, VERY USEFUL
    SUBTITLES. BRAVA !!!

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mario. Have you tried Selenium toning yourself?

    • @marioscandale3005
      @marioscandale3005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ILFORD Photo not yet but I'll do it soon 👍

  • @aylwinthomas4225
    @aylwinthomas4225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Selenium Toning or How mind bending background music can drive you up the wall Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just turn it off and use the subtitles:)

  • @aaronalfano35mm
    @aaronalfano35mm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done Rachel!

  • @CraigBergonzoni
    @CraigBergonzoni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video. Thank you for creating these! 👍🏼

    • @rachelbrewster-wright9297
      @rachelbrewster-wright9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Craig! Glad to hear that you're enjoying them ☺️👍📸🎞️

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching Craig, glad you enjoyed it.

  • @folksblogen5476
    @folksblogen5476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was super! Thanks so much! I've been using ILFORD materials since I was 14 in 1972! I started developing film and photos in my parents' laundry room. Studied photo in art college and never looked back. I'm really interested in reintroducing film back into my practice.

    • @rachelbrewster-wright9297
      @rachelbrewster-wright9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wonderful to hear! There's a whole wonderful film photography community out there. Look forward to seeing some of your analogue work 👍☺️📸🎞️

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's so good to hear. I really hope that you do choose to give film another whirl. Please let us know if you do.

  • @vinceplatini
    @vinceplatini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you!

  • @analog_process3156
    @analog_process3156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow very interesting. I must try that myself. 👏🏼

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should definitely give Selenium toning a try on your darkroom prints Angelo:)

  • @ivane253
    @ivane253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rachel,
    Superb video workshop, as always. A great source for beginners and people like me who are returning to film dev and print after many years of "Digital Only" photography.
    Btw, would love to know where to get myself a set of those lovely stainless steel dev trays :-)
    Thanks

  • @deemdoubleu
    @deemdoubleu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @Machster10
    @Machster10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice lullaby music. Put me to sleep.

  • @peterlukac8458
    @peterlukac8458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful video, thanks for this series. Usually when I am looking for tutorials for classic analoque processes, 98% of results are tutorials how to fake it in Photoshop :D

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it useful Peter. Do you get chance to do much darkroom printing yourself?

    • @peterlukac8458
      @peterlukac8458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ilfordphoto not really, I have yet to try it.

  • @onnoweb
    @onnoweb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got to try that.

    • @rachelbrewster-wright9297
      @rachelbrewster-wright9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give it a whirl and make sure you share your results with Ilford! Have fun 👍

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please share your results when you do:)

  • @MrPetermc199
    @MrPetermc199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have just bought a bottle and I am looking forward to printing/toning 25 year old negatives...

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh wow. Let us know how you get on:)

  • @shaylawatson1244
    @shaylawatson1244 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't even know this was possible until now

  • @ritterritter532
    @ritterritter532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's always a pleasure to watch your videos which always are very well done. That will sounds a bit ridiculous but where did you get your metal developing trays ? I like them very much and wish to buy a set.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've has them for years!

  • @NasserAlhameli
    @NasserAlhameli 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should this be after developing a new print? Or I could do the toning even for an old photo? Thank you for the info

  • @labradorhund7769
    @labradorhund7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've just ordered some toner and am very much looking forward to testing it. I hope it works with non warm tone paper too? I'll get some of that in the future, but it's quite a lot more money than "regular" paper.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it does with neutral papers too:) Enjoy!

  • @MrPetermc199
    @MrPetermc199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I need to retouch a photo, do I do that before or after the selenium toning?

  • @Fredaspremont
    @Fredaspremont 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a nice video ! A question, for a french fellow: the paper RC warmtone was in Ilford warmtone developer at the beginning or not ? Long life to Ilford !

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The prints had been developed previously in standard Multigrade developer and then were just put back into water at 24 degrees to soak prior to toning.

    • @rachelbrewster-wright9297
      @rachelbrewster-wright9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Frederic! The Ilford Warmtone RC paper I made the two prints on (the reference one, and the one I go on to tone), were both originally developed in standard Ilford Multigrade paper developer (i.e. you don't need to use a special / different paper developer in order to tone your print afterwards). Hope that helps!

    • @Fredaspremont
      @Fredaspremont 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ilfordphoto Thank's !

  • @onnoweb
    @onnoweb ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to practice a bit more. At my initial attempt I see very little difference between the two prints even after 6 minutes in the selenium bath. Maybe its temperature is too low?

  • @nagynoda3732
    @nagynoda3732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    D'you know where I can find inox trays like the ones in the video?

  • @myoung48281
    @myoung48281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What ilford paper do you recommend for an F surface to be selenium toned to a more neutral tone. Graded paper, thanks.

  • @michaelfuller2153
    @michaelfuller2153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks much! I have never toned...partly because I understood that especially selenium toner was pretty toxic stuff. Is the modern toner better?
    Thanks!

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. It is pretty stinky and you need to take precautions as Rachel does when using it but as long as you are careful (as with any chemistry) there shouldn't be any issues. Tech sheet and further info are available here www.ilfordphoto.com/1143207

  • @cdl0
    @cdl0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video demonstration; however, the jingly music is very annoying and makes it hard to hear what Rachel Brewster-Wright is saying.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to hear that. There are subtitles available if you are struggling.

  • @gaelld7370
    @gaelld7370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you this is super interesting and makes me want to experiment with toning. For future videos I would suggest you record Rachel's voice better (using a dedicated mic?). That would make it easier to understand.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the constructive feedback Gael and glad to hear it inspired you. When we shot this we hadn't realised just how echo-ey the room was and with the Coronavirus outbreak, we were unable to get back into the darkroom. The great team @tomfoolery have put some tweaks in place so the rest of the videos in this set should have clearer sound.

    • @peterhuxley8181
      @peterhuxley8181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ilfordphoto May I suggest removing the music. It adds nothing but detracts from what Rachel is saying.

  • @damianlasek8158
    @damianlasek8158 ปีที่แล้ว

    so it's go tha way? - warm water -> toner -> stopper -> wash?

  • @rgillianevlogs9034
    @rgillianevlogs9034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the sheet size use in this video? Thanks!

  • @terrywbreedlove
    @terrywbreedlove 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t know why but I am very surprised you don’t bleach the print first. This looks much easier than I imagined it would. 👍🏻

    • @ptbfrch
      @ptbfrch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Ilford Warmtone tones much more readily as a direct toner than any other Ilford paper. Standard Multigrade shoes much less color change, and indirect toning with bleach first will give a much more pronounced effect. Direct toning also helps with max density in dark tones, more so than when bleaching and re-developing in the toner.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you glad you watched it now ? :) It is a really simple process in it's basic form as Rachel has shown here, and can dramatically change the look of your black and white darkroom prints. There are some great tips for selenium toning on our website www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/586/product/671/

    • @terrywbreedlove
      @terrywbreedlove 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ILFORD Photo I will try it but I need the toner first :) I don’t like the real warm look. I print with the Glossy fiber and love love it. Hopefully it won’t get to warm looking I only shoot landscapes. And viewed Michael Kenna’s work in a Seattle gallery and his toning was gorgeous and what I want.

    • @terrywbreedlove
      @terrywbreedlove 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thomas Bertilsson Thank you

  • @tanguylejedi7357
    @tanguylejedi7357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see selenium toned prints with the new RC Multigrade V. It is said in its datasheet that it provides better results with toning than the fourth gen RC paper. Could you please show us some examples ?

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback Tanguy. We do have some toned prints of the new MGRCDL paper in the office, i will try to get them shared once the site re-opens.

    • @rlfsoso
      @rlfsoso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi I was able to try it with a different brand of Selenium toner though (Rollei), markably more responsive than MG IV (RC). 1:19 5 minutes. I followed up with bleach and sulphur toner (Moersch MT3) which worked nicely. Have not been able to try out a lot… see here: instagram.com/p/B8tH16qozOO/ (iphone picture, color of course is off (less greenish) R.

    • @tanguylejedi7357
      @tanguylejedi7357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ilfordphoto I'm about to order the new MGRC and a bottle of selenium, I would love to have guidelines & examples to know what I can expect with different times and dilutions.
      Thank you for keeping it up with new products :)

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tanguylejedi7357 I unfortunately can't send you any of this info as I can't access it at the moment. have a look at these pdfs from our website which may be helpful MultiGrade RC www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/1954/product/1701/ Selenium toning tips www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/586/product/671/

  • @juancarlosguzman2827
    @juancarlosguzman2827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this is amazing! I need a darkroom to start experimenting 😉 I would like to ask you something regarding Ilford rapid fixer I am a brand new into film and developing. What does it mean 1+4 ratio? If I need to prepare 1000 ml of fixer, how many ml of rapid fixer concentrate I need to dilute in water? 200 ml? Sorry but this thing is overwhelming! Thanks for sharing this video

    • @stephendeakin2714
      @stephendeakin2714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's correct Juan, 1+4, 10+40, 100+400, 200 fixer + 800 water=1000 ml Try to have the water at 20°c

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Stephen!

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Juan, glad to hear you're excited to get in the darkroom. It's so much fun and very addictive. You may want to checkout some of our earlier videos in the how to playlist as well th-cam.com/play/PLarwq93oldzSmUWGGghh71uTyonfODd27.html such as processing our first film and making a basic contact print. These may help to answer any additional questions.

    • @juancarlosguzman2827
      @juancarlosguzman2827 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ILFORD Thank you so much 🙏 I can’t wait to start developing, already shoot 2 rolls of HP5 thanks guys!

    • @juancarlosguzman2827
      @juancarlosguzman2827 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Deakin thank for the feedback Stephen, I was kind of confuse, I really appreciate it👍

  • @kayhanshaghaghi9597
    @kayhanshaghaghi9597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With fibre paper, after fix, can you tone straight and then wash for 30 min? Or do you first have to wash for 30 and then tone an another 30 min wash?

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Kayhan. You can tone after fixing and before washing. If you are using our Selenium Toner then this can form part of the archival sequence for FB prints www.ilfordphoto.com/ilford-optimum-permanance-wash-sequence-fb-papers/#:~:text=The%20ILFORD%20PHOTO%20Archival%20Sequence,permanence%20for%20all%20commercial%20needs.

  • @andyvan5692
    @andyvan5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video, but Rachel did not mention somethig I noticed, that those trays are SILVER, NOT the red/black/gray ones used for sheet negative processing!!- good tip, to stop you mixing up, the print/post processing stages, ie putting the "RAW" paper into the selinum, NOT as you should, the dev/stop/fix trays!!!

  • @nilsl8168
    @nilsl8168 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You say 30 minutes washing. The manual of my Nova archival print washer says 45. Is that number too high/old?

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We reviewed all of our wash times a few years back and re-tested and found that 30 minutes was enough.

    • @nilsl8168
      @nilsl8168 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ilfordphoto good to know. I'll do 30 then. Especially with a print washer like my Nova.

  • @severedsixteen
    @severedsixteen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you get those beautiful trays from? Can I buy them from you? :)

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't sell these ones but i'm sure that I've seen similar onliine. (Arkay brand maybe?)

    • @severedsixteen
      @severedsixteen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ilfordphoto Don't think they're as nice as those hand made ones? Name your price? :)

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@severedsixteen Our tech team would hunt me down:)

  • @sactsahn3468
    @sactsahn3468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👏👏👏🇹🇷❤️

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Guessing you enjoyed it?

  • @nickfanzo
    @nickfanzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Selenium always looks too purple to me. Can you tone that down?

  • @manfredoetting7694
    @manfredoetting7694 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Rachel, You're talking so fast. I am German and have difficulties to understand everything. I'm only sure, that tray 2 was the selenium toner. Please be so kind and answer me what liquids are in trays 1 and three? Thank you. Greetings from Hamburg

    • @ianmarsh2507
      @ianmarsh2507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Manfred. The two other trays both contain plain water. The first one at 24 degrees to pre soak and slightly warm the print, the third one at 20 degrees stops the toning

    • @rachelbrewster-wright9297
      @rachelbrewster-wright9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Manfred, yes, I'm afraid I do speak quite quickly. Too enthusiastic! The other two trays are water, just as Ian has mentioned (thanks Ian!). Hope you get chance to try it out. Remember, you can also play/pause the video and there are subtitles too if that helps.

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Manfred. I can see that Rachel has replied below. Just in case you need it, there are also CC subtitles available, although these are only in English at the moment.

  • @theoldfilmbloke
    @theoldfilmbloke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha ha ! Your Plastic Measures are Cleaner than MINE ! I have tried bleach and that 'CIF' stuff cannot shift the gunge !

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's because they are shiny new ones used just for demonstrations:)

    • @theoldfilmbloke
      @theoldfilmbloke 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ilfordphoto Ha Ha !! As they used to say in The Army " Get some IN !! " ( I bet YOU MISSED National Service BUT they got ME and I signed on for 3 years to get a good trade -- did Pathology in the RAMC and used the X-ray Dept Darkrooms to develop and print in Germany with AGFA materials -- Sorry ILFORD)

  • @danko6582
    @danko6582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please reduce the whimsical background music. It makes it really hard to her what she's saying.

  • @MrProinsias
    @MrProinsias 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant really hear what you are saying with the noise in the background ?? pity ;;;

    • @Ilfordphoto
      @Ilfordphoto  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are subtitles available Fran if you are struggling with the sound.

  • @MrProinsias
    @MrProinsias 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HI , I CAN HEAR YOU TALKING BUT SOMEONE HAS MUSIC PLAYING NEAR YOU AND IT IS VERY DISTRACTING AND ANNOYING AND MAKES IT VERY DISTURBING LISTENING, PITY, THANK YOU ,, I AM NOT ENGLISH I LEARNED ENGLISH TRAVELLING AND I AM NOT THE ONLY FORIGNER THAT WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN TO YOUR ADVICE WITHOUT THAT MUSIC NOISE ,, THANK YOU ,,,

  • @dickhorner
    @dickhorner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't watch - DUE TO SHITTY MUZAK! Too bad.