I think talent is like ABV in wine. It's only 15% or so but without it you won't have wine. Sometimes you can't help but feel sorry for those kids who are willing to put in all the 80%, but just a bit short on the 20%, and then frustrated at those that may have the 20% but we never really know because they never put in the 80%.
I agree, although in certain situations (where you know the opponent is far superior, and a heavy loss is expected), it's a little easier to be good natured about it. That said, Winston seems like a super nice guy, and I'm glad that his videos seem to be bringing him some success (he got all that Solinco stuff, right?)
Very enjoyable to watch. Despite the scoreline, Winston, you really played very well and held your own. I like Niels' attitude: very level-headed and mature, not cocky despite his high level and talent.
With my 8 year old son taking lessons and watching videos on this channel it inspired me to start taking lessons again after 20 years. Had my first one today and conditioning is an issue lol. Great content!
This was a great match, I was pulling for you Winston in the Duce game, I was impressed by Neils game, both of you guys played great tennis and it was fun to watch.
Great video. He also had a terrific, consistent half-volley drop shot that he used over and over when you drew him in. Good court sense, knowing where you were and what shot would give you the most trouble.
Awesome match. Very entertaining. Almost clinched that game, Winston. Grat effort. Neils has a great personality. Wish him the best in his college tennis career and on.
Winston you held up well against Niels' constant pressure. Really good effort. Neils has all the tools! His forehand goes stratospheric when he decides to let it go. Great variety, patience, and perfect technique. Niels made tennis look easy but we all know it is not. Seems like a genuine nice guy with a killer game!
Winston your footwork has improved a lot....especially the quick steps preparing to hit the ball. There's a lot less lunging. Well done. When I play someone drastically better than me I just rip the ball on returns and go for big serves. You just cannot win games if you let them get into points. Once the rally starts you're dead.
Halfway through the video so far but paused to comment that your serve is looking really improved in this match, Winston. Specially your serve out wide on the duece side looks like it's got good pace and slice on it.
yes making some decent serves that day but i feel you could go more in front with the toss - seems like you are jammed. Try tossing in a way you can lean more into the court naturally and you can hit more in front - i have a feeling it should give you more power and margin as well and could maybe also be a quick fix. Try aiming first in a dry run without the ball just to see where the ball hitting zone for the toss may be - anyways good stuff - keep it up!@@WinstonDu
Great match, both you guys. First, Neils, out there with nothing to gain, and even winning 8-1 would have been a total loss-- obviously, there's a reason you're doing so well. And Winston-- Man, that guy hits hard. And you almost gutted one out-- a real achievement just coming that close. And, as always, super entertaining. And interesting to actually see the difference between two players who look pretty close in isolation.
Winston, you played great, particularly given the level of Niels! Maybe the best I have seen you play! You mostly handled his pace! Very impressive! That 4th game could have gone either way! As for Niels, the only weird thing I saw was he hit every lob short! Maybe just an off-day for lobs for him??
Winston you're defo getting better!! Im coming back next week from injury after 3 months out, been watching all your videos. Thank you, really inspiring and motivational...cant wait to get back on court and put in practice what I've been learning here. 😊👍🏽
Great stuff Winston! I think a fun match would be you versus Niels’ dad. Who my HS played against back in the later 80s. And trust me - you will see where Niels gets his wicked forehand!
You do a great job with the questions at the end. Sometimes the opponent won't go too deep in the answers but your questions are still great. thanks for the content once again
Really good match, love the Q&A, very informative. Brutal result but lots of great points and really shows how good you have to be to join a big D1 school. His shots and movement were scary good. Good luck next season Neils.
You may or may not be aware but rewatch ur split steps when receiving. For example at 9:29, you are split stepping multiple times, which actually causes you to get aced. You do a second split step and the balls already by you. Focus on one split step at the point of contact. I know it is good to be light on your toes, but when facing fast servers like Niels, mistiming your split step can cause delayed reactions like this one. One split step that allows you to spring towards the direction of the serve is better.
Great match! Niels was really effective at keeping his shots deep and penetrating and he stepped into every ball you hit at him. You played well considering that he took time away from you and often put you in a spot that was difficult to setup a good return. When you had time to set up, your shots looked really good. I'm sure there was a lot of mental pressure during the match. I was rooting for you when you guys got into that long deuce shoot out! :) Love your content!
If only Niels could develop some power and weight to his shots and serve…😊. Fun court time for him and thanks for featuring this Winston. Cheers fellas.
Honestly despite the score, I feel like you played at a very high lvl Winston! Your shots looked more fluid, aggressive, and confident, and decisive. Great job man!
Great video Winston, good to see Niels again, very high level from both of you. Solid serving Winston. My coach keeps telling me to keep both feet on the ground and push through the ball, sometimes especially on backhand I move backwards. I think Niels’ balls came at u really fast and sometimes it pushed you back which might give less accuracy / power as you were saying that pressure to hit deep is easier if u move forward
I think natural talent is the biggest in serving. Arm talent is a real thing. Like in baseball, hard work won’t get you to throw 95mph. If it did, a lot more guys would be pitchers in the big leagues.
I think it is when you try to hit 140 mph serves, like equiv to 95+ fastball, but getting to 120 is technique and strength, but not so much talent is needed.
Everybody can serve 120. If you leanred young and have the mechanics down, basically everybody can serve 120-125. Now, obviously, if you learned tennis as an adult and is not the best coordinated person, you won't be serving like that.
Winston, I've been following your channel for a while now and you've shown some huge improvement especially on your serve recently! I thought you held your own on some of the rallies with Niels and that says a lot given the gap in level. You asked some great questions as well, very informative. Thanks so much for sharing and keep up the awesome content!
His touch on the forehand slice looked really nice. I wonder if he mixes shots like that in all the time, or if he was doing it here because he had more freedom to try stuff.
Fun to watch. Winston doesn’t have any weapons and easily outclassed. The kid has an okay serve for college, but all you need to beat Winston. Big difference is His court movement was far superior beyond just the strokes.
Niels' serve is quick! The only way to win a point is hope he makes an unforced error. Winston you played very well that 4th game with all those deuces.
It's more than 20% talent.. In high school, my brother and I played and the best kid on the team one year was a surfer named Ryan who was just a natural athlete and tennis came easy to him. He didn't even practice often but the kid was a great player. He ended up not staying on the team the next year due to lack of interest.
Great playing, Winston. Given his UTR rating, I would have been a little surprised if you had taken a game, and you nearly held serve in that monster-long service game. You would handily beat me 8-0, so I’m not trying to give you a hard time, just keeping it real.
Dude the point you played at 4:42 speaks volumes for this level of talent. I feel like you did everything right and you still lost the point. I would have just given up at that point. Crazy.
I don’t think Winston hit more than 5 shots off his front foot lol - pace from Niels is so much higher! Very big of you Winston to focus on showcasing the talent at your own expense!
Insightful questions and interesting match…. Yes 150 is pretty light if he is over 6 ft. He may get pushed around a little in college but he’s got a rocket forehand and I thought his serve was good . Winston needs to work on both 1st and second serves…
I think you were off today. Nevertheless, this dude is AWESOME. Could we see a match between him and that Indian dude (sorry, forget his name) from UCLA?
I don't think the score line tells an accurate picture of how well you were playing. Tough opponent and you held your own in a bunch of rallies. I didn't count, but I think you only had the one double fault towards the end? And you got some free points early on your serve. Great work. Keep grinding.
All of the people who think they "play down" to their opponent's level, like they might lose to a 3.5, but could hang with Nadal (I've actually met a person who made this insane claim), should watch this. Winston is very good, but Niel is recruited by USC level good. And Niel is having no issues.
Niels is much more calm when needed, especially when he has to brake and turning backward for a defensive slice or lob. You still got a bit rush when trying to finish the point, especially the penalty forehand close to the net, I guessed that you wanted to get a point from him so bad that it has affected your style. Just stay calm and stick to your style, don't afraid of long rallies, maybe lower your power a bit and go for some more spin crosscourt like Niels did, your power is good but the placement just not there.
Winstun, what do you feel is the hardest thing to overcome when you play someone of that level? i.e. what are they doing so well in particular that makes them a higher level?
Is that the first to for Neils on you channel Winston? Has he ever play with Hermont? That will be a much closer match. You did great Winston don’t get me wrong, but a difference of 4 UTR units is just too big.
6-7 or 8 deuces.. the score looked bad but I think Winston played way better than the score indicated. The kid as good as he is, made too many unforced errors especially from the back hand side. His balls are flat and barely clear the net. He might want to work on getting more net clearance with more spin. Winston mentioned training regiments. He plays down his abilities and fitness, but he must be in excellent shape to be able to go the distance especially after that long game. Anyway the kid got game, I hope he's able to play to his potential. I wouldn't worry muscle and weight. Workout but don't overdo it and mess up your flexibility. Look at Sinner. That boy is bonny, yet he's playing in a major final tonight...
I think talent is like ABV in wine. It's only 15% or so but without it you won't have wine. Sometimes you can't help but feel sorry for those kids who are willing to put in all the 80%, but just a bit short on the 20%, and then frustrated at those that may have the 20% but we never really know because they never put in the 80%.
Agreed, for me I think some higher level of eye hand coordination is a must, some people just don't have that.
yep, height, reactions for serve, ball feelings, eye hand coordination, are all talents.
@@nking99t You can develop all of those things except the first one lol
@@evannatteford1784 yep but very very hard to develop
@@evannatteford1784 yep but it will be so hard to develop though, like the reaction for serve, it is more of the brain.
winston's sportsmanship is admirable. Not getting a game in and still being positive is great to see. Niels killed it
I agree, although in certain situations (where you know the opponent is far superior, and a heavy loss is expected), it's a little easier to be good natured about it. That said, Winston seems like a super nice guy, and I'm glad that his videos seem to be bringing him some success (he got all that Solinco stuff, right?)
Very enjoyable to watch. Despite the scoreline, Winston, you really played very well and held your own. I like Niels' attitude: very level-headed and mature, not cocky despite his high level and talent.
Yeah, seems like a down to earth and nice kid. Hope he does well.
I loved the twist you threw in by asking those great questions in the beginning of the video. Really interesting responses. Please keep doing this!
Good match! Niels is a great player. Winston hit some great shots this match, some really good backhands.
With my 8 year old son taking lessons and watching videos on this channel it inspired me to start taking lessons again after 20 years. Had my first one today and conditioning is an issue lol. Great content!
Love to hear that!
Cool to hear how much work goes into becoming a high level D1 recruit!!
What a great kid and a player.
This was a great match, I was pulling for you Winston in the Duce game, I was impressed by Neils game, both of you guys played great tennis and it was fun to watch.
Great video. He also had a terrific, consistent half-volley drop shot that he used over and over when you drew him in. Good court sense, knowing where you were and what shot would give you the most trouble.
Great job Winston! Excellent 4th game!! Niels seems like a legitimately nice young man. Blessings!
Awesome match. Very entertaining. Almost clinched that game, Winston. Grat effort. Neils has a great personality. Wish him the best in his college tennis career and on.
Winston your channel has becone one of the best. The quality of play is outstanding.-Thanks for sharing
Wow. Very impressive. He can generate a lot of power on the ball for somebody so slim, whose body is obviously still developing.
Sinner-like.
Wow Winston. Nice job. Looks like you are really growing as a player. Thanks for the videos.
Winston you held up well against Niels' constant pressure. Really good effort. Neils has all the tools! His forehand goes stratospheric when he decides to let it go. Great variety, patience, and perfect technique. Niels made tennis look easy but we all know it is not. Seems like a genuine nice guy with a killer game!
Yeah, maybe he was looking for a weakness in Niels' game to try and work with, but I didn't see any!
Winston your footwork has improved a lot....especially the quick steps preparing to hit the ball. There's a lot less lunging. Well done. When I play someone drastically better than me I just rip the ball on returns and go for big serves. You just cannot win games if you let them get into points. Once the rally starts you're dead.
Good stuff Winston. One difference I notice is the ability to go on the offensive happens sooner with the D1 player on average. Nice video!
Halfway through the video so far but paused to comment that your serve is looking really improved in this match, Winston. Specially your serve out wide on the duece side looks like it's got good pace and slice on it.
thanks been working on it!
yes making some decent serves that day but i feel you could go more in front with the toss - seems like you are jammed. Try tossing in a way you can lean more into the court naturally and you can hit more in front - i have a feeling it should give you more power and margin as well and could maybe also be a quick fix. Try aiming first in a dry run without the ball just to see where the ball hitting zone for the toss may be - anyways good stuff - keep it up!@@WinstonDu
Nice match. There were some really good rallies there. I felt like Winston's level started to rise to the occasion.
Great Match. Love watching you kep improving Winston! Niels serve is NASTY!!! Great points - keep up the great work!
Great match, both you guys. First, Neils, out there with nothing to gain, and even winning 8-1 would have been a total loss-- obviously, there's a reason you're doing so well. And Winston-- Man, that guy hits hard. And you almost gutted one out-- a real achievement just coming that close.
And, as always, super entertaining. And interesting to actually see the difference between two players who look pretty close in isolation.
Niels level is crazy. So strong in the back, fast movement and very good serve!
Winston, you played great, particularly given the level of Niels! Maybe the best I have seen you play! You mostly handled his pace! Very impressive! That 4th game could have gone either way!
As for Niels, the only weird thing I saw was he hit every lob short! Maybe just an off-day for lobs for him??
Winston you're defo getting better!!
Im coming back next week from injury after 3 months out, been watching all your videos. Thank you, really inspiring and motivational...cant wait to get back on court and put in practice what I've been learning here. 😊👍🏽
Love to hear that!
You've got a great concept with this channel. Really enjoy the surprises with different levels of opponents.
Kids a beast, I'm sure he will make it to pro level, he seems to have the talent, drive and dedication to succeed.
Wow, Winston, Niels brought out the best in you! Despite the scoreboard, this is possibly the highest level I've seen you play at. Well done!
winston returning might ve been a little shaky today but i really see the footwork and urgency improvement
Great stuff Winston! I think a fun match would be you versus Niels’ dad. Who my HS played against back in the later 80s. And trust me - you will see where Niels gets his wicked forehand!
You do a great job with the questions at the end. Sometimes the opponent won't go too deep in the answers but your questions are still great. thanks for the content once again
I'm a USTA 4.5 and serve just like Niels...in my mind! Winston, you seem to have improved a lot in the last year or so. Nice playing!
Really good match, love the Q&A, very informative. Brutal result but lots of great points and really shows how good you have to be to join a big D1 school. His shots and movement were scary good. Good luck next season Neils.
Niels is amazing! Hope he continues to improve
You may or may not be aware but rewatch ur split steps when receiving. For example at 9:29, you are split stepping multiple times, which actually causes you to get aced. You do a second split step and the balls already by you. Focus on one split step at the point of contact. I know it is good to be light on your toes, but when facing fast servers like Niels, mistiming your split step can cause delayed reactions like this one. One split step that allows you to spring towards the direction of the serve is better.
You made some good shots and you made him work hard. He's good enough to take advantage of his good shots and serves.
Great match! Niels was really effective at keeping his shots deep and penetrating and he stepped into every ball you hit at him. You played well considering that he took time away from you and often put you in a spot that was difficult to setup a good return. When you had time to set up, your shots looked really good. I'm sure there was a lot of mental pressure during the match. I was rooting for you when you guys got into that long deuce shoot out! :) Love your content!
Both great players! This was fun to watch, keep it coming man!
Just stumbled onto your channel. Great stuff! Thank you for the content!
The editing was as good as the match!
If only Niels could develop some power and weight to his shots and serve…😊. Fun court time for him and thanks for featuring this Winston. Cheers fellas.
This is always interesting to compare levels of tennis.
Turtle Rock, Irvine, CA. My dad lives 300 steps from that court. Great place.....
Honestly despite the score, I feel like you played at a very high lvl Winston! Your shots looked more fluid, aggressive, and confident, and decisive. Great job man!
Great video Winston, good to see Niels again, very high level from both of you. Solid serving Winston. My coach keeps telling me to keep both feet on the ground and push through the ball, sometimes especially on backhand I move backwards. I think Niels’ balls came at u really fast and sometimes it pushed you back which might give less accuracy / power as you were saying that pressure to hit deep is easier if u move forward
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard!!!!
seemed like a real down to Earth kid, hope he does well at USC!
I think natural talent is the biggest in serving. Arm talent is a real thing. Like in baseball, hard work won’t get you to throw 95mph. If it did, a lot more guys would be pitchers in the big leagues.
I think it is when you try to hit 140 mph serves, like equiv to 95+ fastball, but getting to 120 is technique and strength, but not so much talent is needed.
Everybody can serve 120. If you leanred young and have the mechanics down, basically everybody can serve 120-125. Now, obviously, if you learned tennis as an adult and is not the best coordinated person, you won't be serving like that.
Hope Niels enjoys SC
Winston, I've been following your channel for a while now and you've shown some huge improvement especially on your serve recently! I thought you held your own on some of the rallies with Niels and that says a lot given the gap in level. You asked some great questions as well, very informative. Thanks so much for sharing and keep up the awesome content!
been working on the serve!
do you attribute it to the help from Ryan Reidy?@@WinstonDu
This is a great example of what a top D1 player does against weaker competition
I like the interview, thanks for that!
Two things he does really well, early preparation and tremendous racquet face control, hardly ever saw the ball sail on him. Solid player!
His touch on the forehand slice looked really nice. I wonder if he mixes shots like that in all the time, or if he was doing it here because he had more freedom to try stuff.
Great video. I thought you did fairly well against a top college player. Bravo !
gotta work on that second serve. It's wild to see how explosive even the 2nd serve from Niels is. His forehand is disgusting, winner from anywhere.
Hi winston ur channel is goated
Fun to watch. Winston doesn’t have any weapons and easily outclassed. The kid has an okay serve for college, but all you need to beat Winston. Big difference is His court movement was far superior beyond just the strokes.
Beatdown lol. Niels is a beast
Holy smokes, good match still regardless of the score! 🎉
Niels' serve is quick! The only way to win a point is hope he makes an unforced error. Winston you played very well that 4th game with all those deuces.
Playing against guys like Niels in high school is the reason I quit tennis. These kids just have so much skills.
no reason to quit if you like tennis :(
no reason to quit if you like tennis :(
Don’t talk down to yourself as a 4.5 USTA is above average, good job guys!
Niels has such a beautiful forehand stroke
this kid is better than a lot of the college guys you play
Fun fact ,Niels is ranked 106 in the world actually based on junior utr rankings
how about Neils vs Karue?
coming soon?
It's more than 20% talent.. In high school, my brother and I played and the best kid on the team one year was a surfer named Ryan who was just a natural athlete and tennis came easy to him. He didn't even practice often but the kid was a great player. He ended up not staying on the team the next year due to lack of interest.
Fight on!
Niels is great... now he has to go play prime Govind in college.
Winston with another banger!
Great playing, Winston. Given his UTR rating, I would have been a little surprised if you had taken a game, and you nearly held serve in that monster-long service game. You would handily beat me 8-0, so I’m not trying to give you a hard time, just keeping it real.
he is so good and maybe only playing at half tank
Dude the point you played at 4:42 speaks volumes for this level of talent. I feel like you did everything right and you still lost the point. I would have just given up at that point. Crazy.
4.5 is definitely not your average rec level player
I don’t think Winston hit more than 5 shots off his front foot lol - pace from Niels is so much higher!
Very big of you Winston to focus on showcasing the talent at your own expense!
Wow that guy has a sick name
Insightful questions and interesting match…. Yes 150 is pretty light if he is over 6 ft. He may get pushed around a little in college but he’s got a rocket forehand and I thought his serve was good . Winston needs to work on both 1st and second serves…
I can’t wait to read about Niels when he is ranked in the top ten on the ATP.
great content. It would be really cool to see Niels playing Sayles - I believe they are close in level?
I think you were off today. Nevertheless, this dude is AWESOME. Could we see a match between him and that Indian dude (sorry, forget his name) from UCLA?
Dang your serves got a lot better!
Kid is a beast!
You gotta put baby Fritz vs baby Tsitsipas
Weighs enough to whoop some ass 8-0 while messing around. Kid is impressive
Great stuff 👍
Winston footwork improvement would help.
I don't think the score line tells an accurate picture of how well you were playing. Tough opponent and you held your own in a bunch of rallies. I didn't count, but I think you only had the one double fault towards the end? And you got some free points early on your serve. Great work. Keep grinding.
All of the people who think they "play down" to their opponent's level, like they might lose to a 3.5, but could hang with Nadal (I've actually met a person who made this insane claim), should watch this. Winston is very good, but Niel is recruited by USC level good. And Niel is having no issues.
He took it easy on you Winston.... Practice on hitting your ball deep to be more on offense. You got it.
No shame in being bagled by Niels. That ball was coming at you with serious pace.
Niels is much more calm when needed, especially when he has to brake and turning backward for a defensive slice or lob. You still got a bit rush when trying to finish the point, especially the penalty forehand close to the net, I guessed that you wanted to get a point from him so bad that it has affected your style. Just stay calm and stick to your style, don't afraid of long rallies, maybe lower your power a bit and go for some more spin crosscourt like Niels did, your power is good but the placement just not there.
His speed at 7:11 is insane.
Did Neils YEET that last point? hahaha! Kids these days.
Winstun, what do you feel is the hardest thing to overcome when you play someone of that level? i.e. what are they doing so well in particular that makes them a higher level?
So we got 4-5 years until we see him playing on tour
That's enough time to see Winston improve on his serve!
Is that the first to for Neils on you channel Winston? Has he ever play with Hermont? That will be a much closer match. You did great Winston don’t get me wrong, but a difference of 4 UTR units is just too big.
What a big donuts
Niels bakery is open 😆🥯🥯
You done well winston
6-7 or 8 deuces.. the score looked bad but I think Winston played way better than the score indicated. The kid as good as he is, made too many unforced errors especially from the back hand side. His balls are flat and barely clear the net. He might want to work on getting more net clearance with more spin. Winston mentioned training regiments. He plays down his abilities and fitness, but he must be in excellent shape to be able to go the distance especially after that long game. Anyway the kid got game, I hope he's able to play to his potential. I wouldn't worry muscle and weight. Workout but don't overdo it and mess up your flexibility. Look at Sinner. That boy is bonny, yet he's playing in a major final tonight...