2:27 She posted "I was just kidding pls dont I'm just a girl pls" So when does being a Girl mean your not for Gender Equality? Oh yes, I guess when its not benefiting her. Its sort of like saying " I was Stupid and because I am a girl, this sort of action should be forgotten because we girls are not responsible for our actions. NOT!!! Like the way she said tries to blame her friend and I bet if was a male friend too. I AM JUST A GIRL!!! LOL I guess the next time she wonders why she was fired from a job, her boss can say because she just a girl and she will except that reason and not cry Gender Discrimination. I doubt it very much.
BJGvideos Like who will pay the Child Support and who will be able to raise the kids after a divorce. You mean those issue or are you happy that over 90% of men are paying? I notice you stop replying. That is whatt I thought. Typical women stating she want to make everything better for everyone and get rid of issues for both women and men and the second you mention Family court, they run and hid!!!
Some of these people needed to be arrested. However, I fail to see how you can legally arrest someone if there is actually no crime that has been committed.
The "Assault" in Assault and battery is the provocation, or presentation of a threat by the one guilty of the "Assault". Assault is NOT the physical part of those charges. Battery is when you go about hitting someone. They committed a crime the second they transmitted (or uttered), a viable threat. Also, if pertaining to the POTUS, you cannot openly, or in closed discussion EVER threaten the Pres. It is a crime called TREASON. They of course never bring it to the full charge, because treason is met with death, and if we killed off every teen who ever posted one of those, we may not have youth to take our place as we get old and die off.
+James Ghosten Our government does not follow the same rules and laws that it expects us to. Those in power can bend the rules as they see fit. If someone with any amount of power over a normal citizen is threatened, the one making the threats (being jokes or not) is arrested. However, if someone were to threaten the lives of you or I, I bet the police would do little about it, and perhaps even put their own foot in their mouths by saying something like 'but they haven't done anything yet that we can arrest them for. Which is how it should be. I agree completely. the you cannot be "Proven guilty" of a crime you have never committed.
"I'm goona shoot Obama" Police sees. Police turned off phone. "We gotta arrest him" "Ok" Next tweet by the teen "lol just kidding, pls no hate! 🤗🤗🤗" Later when the police arrest him "You can't do this...I was joking" "Yes we can"
The biggest sign of Stupidity. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
? Zimmerman stood trial and was found not guilty. Treyvon was not some innocent young kid like the picture shown in this video when he was 13. You two should try reading and research before making comments.
+Broken Attention Media Aren't you a special case, Black Lives Matter protest obvious signs of police brutality against not only Blacks but all citizens but emphasize their race because well they are more likely to be caught in these situations because of the officer perception and encounter with someone of that color. The police officer would possibly make a broad assumption that every man or woman of color would act the way the ones he has taken in. Zimmermann use of his fire arm was unnecessary, but both of them in this case were at fault.
Something similar happened in my neighborhood recently. A 25 year old posted a video online on how he was making a pipe-bomb in his garage (according to him, for new year fireworks, but the police suspect him of planning a terrorist attack). Guy was arrested and is currently awaiting prosecution.
#4 needs to be elaborated on. The guy knew his ex wife was lying, posing as a 17 year old girl to then use that to gain sole custody of their daughter. He went to a noterity to document that his wife was posing as a teenager to do exactly that. He agreed to meet her about a week after getting the document officially notarized, sent to jail but was let out after the notirizer verified he had come in claiming the falsehood. He was set free and his ex is now facing charges. Dudes a genius if you ask me.
Jailing people for making joke is an insane break on our freedom of speech. I dont care how harsh these jokes are, freedom of speech is freedom of speech, even if the speech is mean or bad or something you disagree with or offends you. People jailing others over things they say or write should be sent to Saudi Arabia or North korea, where they can jail all the people they want for saying anything.
The first one was stupid? Lyrics are a form of art and also there is the freedom of speech. If he adresses a latter at the president writing that, is stupid, but writing a song about it is no crime. It doesn't have to be nice what he is saying but getting arrested essencially for creating art is _so goddamn idiotic for a country that claims to bring freedom_. *The freedom of speech is probably one of the most important rights* there is and if you can get arrested for that today, you might get *arrested for criticizing the government tomorrow*. This is not as funny as you might think, a kid getting arrested for beeing insensetive and making jokes might sound amousing but this will certanly have an impact on the work of artists. _If you have to think about what jokes to make about which themes you are already censored._
Like how you can get time for sarcastic comments on facebook, but you only get 3 months for assaulting and raping a women. OH FUCK, for saying that I'm going to jail now, arn't I?
THANK-YOU (**insert photo of someone with a big smile giving praise**) for perfectly demonstrating (**insert random photo of people demonstrating in the street**) why using stock photos is a BAD (**insert photo of the devil**) TERRIBLE idea.
If my record was ruined by the state for making a facebook post, I would snap and afterwards do more crap now then ever since my record is already ruined
u know,that if write down ur words its not just a word anymore..??it can be considered as a statement which change the game completely..so yes it is idiotic to think that u can do whatever shit u want without consequences..
Sending someone to jail for song lyrics or a facebook post that was not serious seems ridiculous to me,what's next are they going to put death metal bands in jail for lyrics or comedians in jail for jokes. Where's the crime here? What happened to free speech?
You don't have the right to offend/threaten a person. For example: You have the right to sneeze. That doesn't mean you have the right to sneeze on a person.
lilylovesowls Dude, he said two LITTLE girls. And at the time, there were two little girls missing, so wtf do you think the authoritys thought? " Hey, This person just posted about having a dream being in a van with two little girls, and there is a case about it, but WHATTTEEVVVA, freedom of speech!!"
Laci Wolfe yea and then they can clearly find out that he wast involved instead of arresting him over a fb post. Thats whats wrong with America too many innoocent people going to jail. And senteces being to long. Theres no trying to improve on the person just punishment. And punishment does not work.
What made you think the last one was in America? The guy said British teen so one would assume it happened in the U.K. Unless you searched for the source and read that it happened in America.
I do think it's stupid how someone can say something like "Omg I'm gonna frickin kill you!" and its a joke, the person knows its a joke, its obviously an exaggeration but you can be charged for it.
Drives drunk and gets charged with dui and only get probation, makes a threat on Twitter and only spend half s year in jail. Totally reasonable, not unfair at all "he said with sarcasm
I knew it! At 2;00 that guy on the far right is Stephen Fry from Bones. What a jerk! He paid the guys court costs and fines!! Hey why not help victims of crimes instead!
If Fry now sued you for libel, you'd have to prove he is a jerk, and I'm sure you'd love some celebrity to help you out with what would be an equally frivolous case.
what i notice through this is that what is really dumb is the lack of freedom of speech around the world...very disappointing for supposed first world countries who highly respect the rights of all. yea right...
What I've noticed is that a lot of you people have no idea what 'freedom of speech' is, which is really dumb having this lack of understanding about one of the most fundamental rights in human history.... Very disappointing for supposed citizens of a 'free world' that cannot set apart what 'free speech' is, and what threats are.
After re-reading my comment, I might have worded it in a manner which you might not understand, given your level of intellect. So I decided to break it down further for you, well, dumb it down if I might add by giving you a couple of examples: Freedom of speech: "President X is the worse. I hate his policies towards our education and health. If I could, I'd get him fired." Not freedom of speech: "President X is a cunt, I am going to kill him" Learn the difference.
Here's "free speech" ... Those PIGS in Dallas who were executed for the crimes their hired thug brother's and sisters committed on society, deserved it!
let's be honest hear that last one you tell no one in jail how you actually got there you pray the guards keep it to themselves and you stay off of social media.
Incorrect information re Paul Chambers and Robin Hood airport. He was found guilty and subsequently lost an appeal (maybe two) but eventually at the High Court in London 0n 27 July 2012 the conviction was quashed (and rightly so) and he was exonerated of any wrong doing. He was backed by thousands of supporters including comedians Stephen Fry and Al Murray who were all incredulous that this action was taken in the first place.
well hell forbid if i make a ''beer joke'' on any media bloody get introuble just for saying a BOMB ... Hah people should be like me just smile chuckle and continue on your jolly good day
This will make you realise that you are being watched on face book. Be very careful what you write and click on face book. Do not forget folks. 'YOU ARE BEING WATCHED 24/7.
For someone to get a year years probation they do in fact have been arrested. There also was a charging proccess and a finder of fact such as a judge or justice of the peace.
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Stabbed my wife for cheating on me, you?
"Said some dumb shit on Facebook"
Best. Comment. Ever.
2:27 She posted "I was just kidding pls dont I'm just a girl pls"
So when does being a Girl mean your not for Gender Equality? Oh yes, I guess when its not benefiting her. Its sort of like saying " I was Stupid and because I am a girl, this sort of action should be forgotten because we girls are not responsible for our actions. NOT!!! Like the way she said tries to blame her friend and I bet if was a male friend too.
I AM JUST A GIRL!!! LOL I guess the next time she wonders why she was fired from a job, her boss can say because she just a girl and she will except that reason and not cry Gender Discrimination. I doubt it very much.
I want equality and that means making things better all around.
BJGvideos for you and I am guessing your female. Only a female would say something like that.
Better all around. That means raising EVERYONE up. Getting rid of the issues that women AND men (and whoever else) face.
BJGvideos Like who will pay the Child Support and who will be able to raise the kids after a divorce. You mean those issue or are you happy that over 90% of men are paying? I notice you stop replying. That is whatt I thought. Typical women stating she want to make everything better for everyone and get rid of issues for both women and men and the second you mention Family court, they run and hid!!!
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Some of these people needed to be arrested. However, I fail to see how you can legally arrest someone if there is actually no crime that has been committed.
Communicating a threat IS a crime.
The "Assault" in Assault and battery is the provocation, or presentation of a threat by the one guilty of the "Assault". Assault is NOT the physical part of those charges. Battery is when you go about hitting someone. They committed a crime the second they transmitted (or uttered), a viable threat. Also, if pertaining to the POTUS, you cannot openly, or in closed discussion EVER threaten the Pres. It is a crime called TREASON. They of course never bring it to the full charge, because treason is met with death, and if we killed off every teen who ever posted one of those, we may not have youth to take our place as we get old and die off.
Innocent until proven guilty?
"What's that?"
+James Ghosten Our government does not follow the same rules and laws that it expects us to. Those in power can bend the rules as they see fit. If someone with any amount of power over a normal citizen is threatened, the one making the threats (being jokes or not) is arrested. However, if someone were to threaten the lives of you or I, I bet the police would do little about it, and perhaps even put their own foot in their mouths by saying something like 'but they haven't done anything yet that we can arrest them for. Which is how it should be. I agree completely. the you cannot be "Proven guilty" of a crime you have never committed.
"I'm goona shoot Obama"
Police sees.
Police turned off phone.
"We gotta arrest him"
"Ok"
Next tweet by the teen "lol just kidding, pls no hate! 🤗🤗🤗"
Later when the police arrest him
"You can't do this...I was joking"
"Yes we can"
That part it weird
+Emily Buccella you just posted a threat... ur goin tu jail...XD
Glad to know the trolls are being locked up, instead of the real criminals.
i laughed quite hard on the "i woke this morning in the back of a transit van" post, i think i'm going to hell. XD
why the hell did #1 get 3 months?? I don't get what the crime was besides being insensitive
Because the justice system anywhere is a joke and the people enforcing/upholding the law are all criminals.
Because he had hairy neck and wore his baseball cap like a douche bag.
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The biggest sign of Stupidity.
A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
3:52 "Yes we can" OMG I lost it
The person who keeps harassing me and bullying me online needs to be arrested...
ignore them
Record and upload it on youtube
Professor Creepypasta turn ur phone/computer off. Problem solved
This is why we should always think before we post :)
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+Josh Opray it's a cappuccino, hence my name...
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Wow, the police had no trouble to arrest a 15-year-old, but couldn't arrest Zimmerman.
I know right
? Zimmerman stood trial and was found not guilty. Treyvon was not some innocent young kid like the picture shown in this video when he was 13. You two should try reading and research before making comments.
+Broken Attention Media you... you're joking right?
***** you dont know what sjw means do you? A, I fucking hate black lives matter to the core B, dont make assumptions you dont know
+Broken Attention Media Aren't you a special case, Black Lives Matter protest obvious signs of police brutality against not only Blacks but all citizens but emphasize their race because well they are more likely to be caught in these situations because of the officer perception and encounter with someone of that color. The police officer would possibly make a broad assumption that every man or woman of color would act the way the ones he has taken in.
Zimmermann use of his fire arm was unnecessary, but both of them in this case were at fault.
Something similar happened in my neighborhood recently. A 25 year old posted a video online on how he was making a pipe-bomb in his garage (according to him, for new year fireworks, but the police suspect him of planning a terrorist attack). Guy was arrested and is currently awaiting prosecution.
the snap chat story was wrong ... the black kid was the murderer and the white kid (with the gun) was the victim.
#4 needs to be elaborated on. The guy knew his ex wife was lying, posing as a 17 year old girl to then use that to gain sole custody of their daughter. He went to a noterity to document that his wife was posing as a teenager to do exactly that. He agreed to meet her about a week after getting the document officially notarized, sent to jail but was let out after the notirizer verified he had come in claiming the falsehood. He was set free and his ex is now facing charges. Dudes a genius if you ask me.
Sooner or later, just simply tweeting "good morning" can get us arrested.
Jailing people for making joke is an insane break on our freedom of speech. I dont care how harsh these jokes are, freedom of speech is freedom of speech, even if the speech is mean or bad or something you disagree with or offends you. People jailing others over things they say or write should be sent to Saudi Arabia or North korea, where they can jail all the people they want for saying anything.
read her tweets are 2:26 im dying. "i was joking. it wasnt me!" DEAD ASF
it's only freedom of speech if you say what others want to hear.
and only if you are in the us. many countries around the world dont have such laws or have ones against it
"ITS JUST A PRANK BRO!" what most of these peoples defenses consisted of
People should be more careful what they say. What might be a joke to them it might be a bad for others
The first one was stupid? Lyrics are a form of art and also there is the freedom of speech. If he adresses a latter at the president writing that, is stupid, but writing a song about it is no crime. It doesn't have to be nice what he is saying but getting arrested essencially for creating art is _so goddamn idiotic for a country that claims to bring freedom_. *The freedom of speech is probably one of the most important rights* there is and if you can get arrested for that today, you might get *arrested for criticizing the government tomorrow*. This is not as funny as you might think, a kid getting arrested for beeing insensetive and making jokes might sound amousing but this will certanly have an impact on the work of artists. _If you have to think about what jokes to make about which themes you are already censored._
Like how you can get time for sarcastic comments on facebook, but you only get 3 months for assaulting and raping a women.
OH FUCK, for saying that I'm going to jail now, arn't I?
On #9, you have the two guys backwards - the white guy is Ryan, the victim, and the black guy is Maxwell, the suspect. Just thought you should know.
no he was right the white guy killed the black guy
it's not murder when it's self defense. trayvon was killed in self defense, not murdered
A woman tried to hire a hitman on a Facebook post to kill her baby daddy.
This just further reinforces my belief that Smart Phones make people stupid. Flip phone for life.
Twitter and Tumblr is now getting stupid.
THANK-YOU (**insert photo of someone with a big smile giving praise**) for perfectly demonstrating (**insert random photo of people demonstrating in the street**) why using stock photos is a BAD (**insert photo of the devil**) TERRIBLE idea.
judges shouldn't be allowed to arrest and throw people on jainon "contempt of court" that is fucking Bullshit
I'm watching this on a Friday. How fucking Wacky is that 😎
September 24th, Tuesday
No your not it's Saturday
Certain countries may be a day behind, or a day ahead. It's all about location and other factors
Shhh, he don't know that.
Im watching this on a Wednesday, isn't that fucking wacky? 😎
The police said yes we can. 😂 I see what you did there.
how is it that the drunk woman gets off easy and could have easily killed someone but the keyboard idiots making tweets go-to jail?
You mixed up the pictures for #9, Ryan Mangan was the white kid.
nobody asked for your 2 cents...smh
2:51 I would love to be sentenced by that judge
Half the people in this were not even arrested...
it's amazing how desperate people can be for attention
Apparently actions DON'T speak louder than words.
Ohhh Sarah just used the "I'm a just a girl"
wonder if any of them learned anything
Well usually when you do something bad and get punished you learn better. But I bet most haven't.
If my record was ruined by the state for making a facebook post, I would snap and afterwards do more crap now then ever since my record is already ruined
getting arrested over words is so idiotic.
u know,that if write down ur words its not just a word anymore..??it can be considered as a statement which change the game completely..so yes it is idiotic to think that u can do whatever shit u want without consequences..
i can't stand people.... that use so many periods... when they type....
Number 5? Kentucky? Woodford? That's not to far away...I better watch out for this driver lol
GO BIG BLUE!!!
It was actually the black kid that murdered the white one then Snapchated the photo. My wife knows the family.
U got the kids pictures mixed up on the murder selfie
credibility tarnished
The police must love social media.
humans get butthurt to easily lately, especially over the internet and its funny, dont take anything to seriously...
lkr
Maybe you're taking people being too serious.... way too serious.
Humans? What the fuck are you?
+NY Melvo Hes a dumbass... It's a new species of human
TCthaCrisis lol
I miss when the Intro would say "wacky Wednesday"
A kid got arrested at my school for threatening to recreate another columbine last week
I used to chill with max and Ryan back in the day when I seen the story my jaw dropped
I despise Zimmerman, but why did you use an old picture of Travon? He was much older than the picture you used.
Sending someone to jail for song lyrics or a facebook post that was not serious seems ridiculous to me,what's next are they going to put death metal bands in jail for lyrics or comedians in jail for jokes. Where's the crime here? What happened to free speech?
shows we dont really have freedom of speech if someone can get arrested just for posting a comment
You don't have the right to offend/threaten a person.
For example: You have the right to sneeze. That doesn't mean you have the right to sneeze on a person.
Tyrant Gregcag im talking about the first guy that made jokes about being in a van with the two girls.
lilylovesowls
Dude, he said two LITTLE girls. And at the time, there were two little girls missing, so wtf do you think the authoritys thought? " Hey, This person just posted about having a dream being in a van with two little girls, and there is a case about it, but WHATTTEEVVVA, freedom of speech!!"
Laci Wolfe yea and then they can clearly find out that he wast involved instead of arresting him over a fb post. Thats whats wrong with America too many innoocent people going to jail. And senteces being to long. Theres no trying to improve on the person just punishment. And punishment does not work.
What made you think the last one was in America? The guy said British teen so one would assume it happened in the U.K. Unless you searched for the source and read that it happened in America.
I do think it's stupid how someone can say something like "Omg I'm gonna frickin kill you!" and its a joke, the person knows its a joke, its obviously an exaggeration but you can be charged for it.
Drives drunk and gets charged with dui and only get probation, makes a threat on Twitter and only spend half s year in jail. Totally reasonable, not unfair at all "he said with sarcasm
why do so many people think driving under the influence is even remotely ok?
Unless there were specific threats made or a lyric it is all legal due to freedom of speech. For example rappers say stuff all the time.
Exactly. My first thought hearing that was: what happened to freedom of speech?
that moment you realize you can use someones phone and tweet some fucked up shit without them knowing LMFAO!! scary
1:30 How do you get put on probation without getting arrested?
these make me feel good about myself
#2 is completely justified in my book. He was being sarcastic as a way to criticize how stupid the courts are. Are ya fucking kidding me?
I knew it! At 2;00 that guy on the far right is Stephen Fry from Bones. What a jerk! He paid the guys court costs and fines!! Hey why not help victims of crimes instead!
victims of what? nothing happened
If Fry now sued you for libel, you'd have to prove he is a jerk, and I'm sure you'd love some celebrity to help you out with what would be an equally frivolous case.
Apparently making threat to Obama is a criminal offence, unlike threatening Trump is hip and worthy of being hosted on some News shows.
American Justice System is just sick
He never agreed to kill his wife. It was over sexual relations with a 17 year old female.
Lmao on the girl at #6 American Airlines are probably shitting themselves laughing so hard
Must suck to live in a country without freedom of speech,
they arrest people that post on face book but not the scammers?!! Good job 😂😂😂😂😂
Sexism in crime charges...
Every one of those was ridiculous!
I'm surprised the possible Pokemon Championship mass shooting wasn't on the list.
what i notice through this is that what is really dumb is the lack of freedom of speech around the world...very disappointing for supposed first world countries who highly respect the rights of all. yea right...
There is freedom of speech, and then there's threatening to asassinate the president. I'm glad that's not dismissed as "free speech"
What I've noticed is that a lot of you people have no idea what 'freedom of speech' is, which is really dumb having this lack of understanding about one of the most fundamental rights in human history.... Very disappointing for supposed citizens of a 'free world' that cannot set apart what 'free speech' is, and what threats are.
After re-reading my comment, I might have worded it in a manner which you might not understand, given your level of intellect. So I decided to break it down further for you, well, dumb it down if I might add by giving you a couple of examples:
Freedom of speech: "President X is the worse. I hate his policies towards our education and health. If I could, I'd get him fired."
Not freedom of speech: "President X is a cunt, I am going to kill him"
Learn the difference.
Here's "free speech" ... Those PIGS in Dallas who were executed for the crimes their hired thug brother's and sisters committed on society, deserved it!
What? Arrested for making a threat as a joke on twitter? Freedom of speech my ass
You know damn well if it was a black girl or black guy who was driving drunk they'd be arrested on the spot
+Rpp Wing sjw
+Rpp Wing If it was a black girl or black boy who were driving drunk, they'd be arrested on the spot for stealing the car. Lol.
+MWiatrak great retort. You totally changed my view on the matter
+ChrisRedfield actually white people steal cars more than blacks. But don't let logic get in the way of your dumb joke ;)
+Rpp wing Do you even know what sjw means? Fucking dumb ass.
let's be honest hear that last one you tell no one in jail how you actually got there you pray the guards keep it to themselves and you stay off of social media.
it's Friday, he uploaded on Friday, the world ending😭😭😭
Incorrect information re Paul Chambers and Robin Hood airport. He was found guilty and subsequently lost an appeal (maybe two) but eventually at the High Court in London 0n 27 July 2012 the conviction was quashed (and rightly so) and he was exonerated of any wrong doing. He was backed by thousands of supporters including comedians Stephen Fry and Al Murray who were all incredulous that this action was taken in the first place.
How the hell did the guy who posted lyrics spend time in jail. What happened to freedom of speech
Number three is a guy from my home town. That story didn't play out exactly how it was stated here...
Why was there a picture with Stephen Fry in there?
I know someone who got into a car accident, causing his car to flip 3 times. He posted a selfie of him in the ambulance on snapchat.
I went to school with that kid in #10 , He was good rapper but why he did who will ever know....
Robin Hood airport? Sounds familiar! Doesn't it?
well hell forbid if i make a ''beer joke'' on any media bloody get introuble just for saying a BOMB ... Hah people should be like me just smile chuckle and continue on your jolly good day
My threat would be like " I will dislike ur vid LOL"
why is Stephen fry with one of em ?
Thought I was the only person who spotted this.
Benjamin Hammond it's dara obriain, the comic
mate dara o'brian is dara O'Brian stephen fry looks fuck like him and at 2 minutes in that's stephen fry
nope it's al Murray
Oh shit yeah, its al Murray in a wig and a fake nose. Sorry mate
3:39 Nice try young man
America's future seems so bright with young people like this in this world today...-____- smh
It's always been like this. Now this generation has the disadvantage of the Internet
It says at the end "a new video everyday" but in the description it says " new video every 2 days?????
And he who says "you fool" shall be in danger of the fires of Hell
Should add the four kids from this week that kidnapped the mentally disabled kid.
This will make you realise that you are being watched on face book. Be very careful what you write and click on face book. Do not forget folks. 'YOU ARE BEING WATCHED 24/7.
This is like the 3rd voice over change for this channel
And that's why people should keep their mouth shut and mind open.
Why is this guy narrating!!!
New hosts always turn bad
(Ray william johnson)
(Danger dolan)
( ect )
Yooo I actually remember seeing number 6 on Twitter! I honestly wondered if she would in trouble
lol for all. I think its funny they all got arrested
For someone to get a year years probation they do in fact have been arrested. There also was a charging proccess and a finder of fact such as a judge or justice of the peace.