Excellent job. I'm in the middle of restoring a 1943 logan Lathe after that i think a frame jig is in order. Watching these videos have been a great drive to finish the lathe. thanks so much for these.
Whoa that's a super generous complement! I'm learning so much. It was a lot of work making this.. It taught me a lot, like to never make an alignment table like this again lol. A good old thick piece of plate and blanchard ground would have done the trick too! :)
Watching some of your great videos on building the bike and happened to see this one regarding the welding / alignment table. One option for a frame table (and I'm planning on using this method myself when I build a two stroke moto 3 style vintage bike frame) is to use the cast iron wings from an old Sears Craftsman table saw. They are sold on eBay quite often and are very heavy duty. Myself, I have 3 which are bolted together, then you can simply use a machinists rule to true the surface - then use a surface plate to align and check everything to see how flat the milled side is. The nice thing is also that (because the leafs are spider web in design), you can clamp to it in many different directions and angles for setup. It also stores away easily and/or you can build legs, etc. for it. It may not be quite as nice as the fatmo, but I think for less than $150 it's approaching what you need for most setup situations. Great videos; thanks for sharing them!
Wow those things are awesome. This is a great tip. It's affordable and practical. Thanks for sharing! If anyone else is interested do a search for "Craftsman Table Saw Extension Wings" on ebay.
I like your solution Steve. A friend of mine has a large fab table (Boeing surplus, 8 ft. X 4 ft.) that is tune-able in a similar way. I have always wanted to make a smaller version, maybe 3 ft. X 4 ft., to use as a welding table. I had never occurred to me that it would be possible to get the surface as flat as you have here. That's pretty cool. Nice job.
+Alistair Spence Thanks man! My original plan was to use machined blocks but I was thinking on it for about a week and decided nuts would be way easier than going back and forth to the mill. If I could change one thing it would be to have made room to get a socket wrench in the counter sink on top nuts. The other change I made was welding the bolts in place from top to bottom. I originally was going to simply drill a hole and bolt up through. But then realized tube pinching would be an issue.
+robert kujawa Thanks! I'm looking forward to using it. I'll test it out on the first frame I welded (the one you see in the video). There's a few more parts I need to make to get full use out of the table.
+Super Fabricator Hahah thanks! I think it's pretty niche subject matter, at least that's what I tell myself ;) The channel is growing though so don't worry so much! Just enjoy :)
I hope in the end you're gonna have a finished bike :D I've been thinking about building a bike from scratch and TIG welding let me to your channel. It's amazing what you're doing and it gave me a thrust of motivation that I could make a bike myself someday by making every every major component DIY style! Thumbs up and keep the videos coming.
What program do you use for making the 3d designs? And btw every mistake you make during your building process teaches the most and helps others not to duplicate them. So mistakes are truly a good thing in this case.
Amazing video, as always. Very interesting to watch you problem solve. 13:05 Please cover your arms when you weld though! I knew someone who got skin cancer from the UV arc radiation after a decade of welding sculptures unprotected.
+TheImmovableMovers Yes! Another person also mentioned this and I absolutely learned my lesson. This is the most welding I have ever done in 2 days. I had a nice 'sun' burn on my arm on Monday. I felt that sun burn like sensation and was thinking, "how did I get a sun burn? I haven't been outside much.." And then it occurred to me. Never again will I let this happen.
Thanks! It got a bit complicated and I've learned a ton since. If I had to do it all again I would purchase a thick plate and simply have it blanchard ground. But its all good, it still works well! And I like all the fixture holes, they come in handy sometimes.
A slab of stone (marble, silica, mica etc., from one of those kitchen counter-top outets would make a great alignment table. When shopping, just take a good steel straight edge with you so you can handpick from the slabs available. Of course if one is wanting to, such a slab will also serve as a table jig for the tacking phase also. Expect to pay from $24 to $30 per sq. ft. for a slab that is the typical 3cm thick. No problem finding this material that is extremely flat...so flat that the straight edge can not find any error.
+nitroairplane Be sure to read the comments. Lots of folks mentioned some good alternatives such as getting some plate or channel Blanchard ground. Good luck!
Noob question: would you recommend welding on this type of alignment table as well? I really need a dual purpose table so that is important form me, as like you space is at a premium. thanks.
+Sean Rock You can indeed weld on a table like this. However you might want something at least double the width. I know some folks who picked up a certiflat table. This I think if flat enough (for most of us) to use as alignment and also a great welding table option. weldtables.com/
I love the video's, thank you. Do you happen to have any of the diagrams you posted to P3D in any other format, non 3D. My computer will not display them. Thanks again.
+Greg Ulrich Did you try on your phone? It works on phones and tablets.. I think. Let me know. I generally don't keep diagrams (that make sense to other people). Let me know if you still need em'. I'll find a way to make them available.
do you have a faq area somewhere? I want to ask what camera and lens you use but am sure you have answered that a hundred times now. Also what's the "story" with the scar @ 18:17
+Superdude Superdude I don't have a faq on my camera setup. I was thinking of listing all the equipment I use on the website which is basically just a blank page. I mostly use a simple kit 35mm nikon lens on a sony fs700. Other two lenses are a nikon 50mm, and 18-200mm zoom. All lenses belong to my wife and she doesn't seem to mind that I'm using them ALL the time lol. The scar is from a bicycle accident I had when I was 12. Was going down a huge hill (felt huge at the time), hit a huge pothole and flew off my crappy bmx. Broke both bones and one peeked out the skin to say hello. Got about 20 stitches to sew it up.
I don't think they're made any more but did you consider something like the Park FRS-1 or building something like it? I have a feeling you're going to tell me it's not accurate enough but I'm curious what you think.
Steve, Well Done and I appreciate the thorough documentation of supporting resources. What was the name and artist on that sweet tune playing during welding? Take Care Man.
+aspenbanjo Thanks Gary! Amazingly that song is a royalty free tune on the TH-cam creators page. Artist - John Deley and the 41 Players Song - Saint Gary
Hey I was wondering if I were to build a frame and not use an alignment table, would the small amount of distortion truly affect the fit and/or ride of the bike? I don't like the idea of cutting corners but for a first bike I would like to just get something built rather than fumble with small details.
+MrGangsta9812 I've heard varying opinions on this. I think I once read that within 2mm is completely acceptable for alignment. Most riders don't even notice 6mm, maybe even more.. But for pro builders, it's one of those things that sets a frame apart from factory frame. That special attention to detail. There are also other creative ways to align a frame without a table. You can use a park tool frame alignment guage for example. It's the cold setting part that can be tricky. If you can find a way to secure your frame to something for cold setting, some kind of table while you deflect.
+Pithy Bikes Thanks, really appreciate your response, that's one thing I really enjoy...the fact that you are willing to share your opinions and things you have learned with others who share your passion.
Hello. I watched all your videos and i was really impressed. Is there a way to contact you in privet? Like mail etc... I want to build a jig of my own and i was wondering if i could ask you some questions about all the great work that did. Thanks Ofer
another question for you.what do you do for your 9 to 5 so to speak?or are you full time building bikes?curious is all.great job in these videos seriously.very nice craftsmanship here sir.
+MK MK I'm running 50 amps, at .8 pps, 50% backgrond current, 25% pulse time on. But I've been getting a but more comfortable so I'll run a bit faster which puts me at .6pps, and 30% pulse time on. Machines vary though and I'm pretty sure that the dials on my machine are not accurate. The best way is to see it to get a feel for timing. At some point I'll post a video showing that.
Keep an eye on your local tools for sale adds. A surface plate even in bad shape would be more than flat enough for this work. A few 10th of a thousandth is doable over 24" on a granite surface plate in decent shape. Definitely better than you can reliably measure without environmental controls.
Great vid's! Well put togeather. Not to be an ass but You REALLY need to cover your arms and wear propper uv rated saftey glasses while welding, the UV is going to lead to having a really bad time down the road. Cotton capes, are light and cheap. Cheers
+58spitfirerocker No man, you are absolutely right. In fact, I got a sun/weld burn from this build. I never welded that much before and this was my first time getting a burn on my arm from welding. Thanks for the words of caution, I'm taking it to heart.
+Pithy Bikes Right on, If you need any help or info or reviews of gear,hoods,ppe let me know. I'm a local welder. Your attention to detail, and video quality is epic. Can't wait to see the frame done! Cheers
did you turn the alloy round the other way to check its true ,,, without doing that all you have shown with a dti is that the table is the same shape as the alloy.
+Parker Musselman Yes, another person also commented on this. Live and learn :) I could probably have saved a good amount of time by purchasing large channel and getting it blanchard ground. Thanks for watching!
An old cast iron top from an old table saw would prolly work good and u could prolly find a saw for a decent price that u could rrpurpose the table from just a suggestion...
Yes, I've heard of some people using a table saw top. If I had more space that would be a good option. But unfortunately, I only have space for something compact. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
haha so true! In retrospect knowing what I know now, its not necessary to have a table like this. A simple flat surface is good enough. Anyone who says otherwise is making a big deal out of nothing (or charging you way too much for your frame) ;)
+Nathan Hamler Hi Nathan, I did but I already own my crappy welding table and didn't want to throw it out. I wonder how flat one of those tab and slot tables is.. I guess the tricky part is where to secure the BB post. It needs to be really rigid.
That's a travel indicator. Not a test indicator. Your more so parallelism of the extrusion not flatness of the plate. .006 end to end is pretty fucking flat for what your doing, but for $250 you could have had a huge plate Blanchard ground. i never understood these dedicated frame inspection tables... Surface plate? Good job man. Always like watching your shit. I sound like a douche. I need to remember not everyone is a Machinist.
+andrew brabank Hey I appreciate the insight! But wouldn't the plate itself be expensive? I suppose if I found something in a scrap yard. Steel is always super expensive everywhere I look on the CA East Bay. Thanks for watching and correcting my terminology :)
+andrew brabank Hey I just looked up similar size steel plate and you are absolutely right. I could have saved some money if I had known or looked into Blanchard grinding. :( Life lessons ... :) Thanks again!
My world revolves around these videos now! 20 MINUTES OF BLISS!!! A cacophony of awesomeness!!
+Superdude Superdude LOL
Excellent job. I'm in the middle of restoring a 1943 logan Lathe after that i think a frame jig is in order. Watching these videos have been a great drive to finish the lathe. thanks so much for these.
+Aaron Glaser Nice! What size is the lathe?
+Pithy Bikes It's a Logan Model 210, 10X24, I'm installing a quick change gear box. should be ready in the next month, Hopefully.
+Aaron Glaser Nice! Oh man, I just did some threading today on my minilathe, what a nightmare. A quick change gear box is where its at.
loving that stand on the table test at the end. the culmination of your detailed work is so satisfying even for us as viewers.
+aaron alford This was a long build but fun and educational. Glad you enjoyed the stand test.
You work metal like Wandel Matthias works wood. Excellent patience and perseverance. You're an inspiration man. Keep it up.
Whoa that's a super generous complement! I'm learning so much. It was a lot of work making this.. It taught me a lot, like to never make an alignment table like this again lol. A good old thick piece of plate and blanchard ground would have done the trick too! :)
I am so impressed with how precise. I am such a clod but I really enjoy watching someone else. You could be a surgeon.
Haha Thank you for watching :)
I really like the welds for the screws on the backside. They turned out really nice. That pulse-fauxdime trick is awesome.
+John Nilsson Yes, I love pulse. :) I don't know how I ever went without.
Watching some of your great videos on building the bike and happened to see this one regarding the welding / alignment table. One option for a frame table (and I'm planning on using this method myself when I build a two stroke moto 3 style vintage bike frame) is to use the cast iron wings from an old Sears Craftsman table saw. They are sold on eBay quite often and are very heavy duty. Myself, I have 3 which are bolted together, then you can simply use a machinists rule to true the surface - then use a surface plate to align and check everything to see how flat the milled side is. The nice thing is also that (because the leafs are spider web in design), you can clamp to it in many different directions and angles for setup. It also stores away easily and/or you can build legs, etc. for it. It may not be quite as nice as the fatmo, but I think for less than $150 it's approaching what you need for most setup situations. Great videos; thanks for sharing them!
Wow those things are awesome. This is a great tip. It's affordable and practical. Thanks for sharing! If anyone else is interested do a search for "Craftsman Table Saw Extension Wings" on ebay.
Your welds are SUPER satisfying.
+Rupert Cooper :D TY!
I like your solution Steve. A friend of mine has a large fab table (Boeing surplus, 8 ft. X 4 ft.) that is tune-able in a similar way. I have always wanted to make a smaller version, maybe 3 ft. X 4 ft., to use as a welding table.
I had never occurred to me that it would be possible to get the surface as flat as you have here. That's pretty cool. Nice job.
+Alistair Spence Thanks man! My original plan was to use machined blocks but I was thinking on it for about a week and decided nuts would be way easier than going back and forth to the mill. If I could change one thing it would be to have made room to get a socket wrench in the counter sink on top nuts. The other change I made was welding the bolts in place from top to bottom. I originally was going to simply drill a hole and bolt up through. But then realized tube pinching would be an issue.
Great vid. Your attention to detail is fantastic. Table turned out nice.
+Jess Neal Thanks man!
I have been building for a long time but I learn something on almost every one of your videos! Keep up the good work.
I'm glad the videos have something new to learn :) I'm learning and continue to learn so much too!
That is a lot of work with a very satisfying result. I was surprised that it did not deflect when you stood on it.
+Kevin Hornbuckle Me too! But I only weight about 130lbs so maybe that had something to do with it ;)
Pithy, your welds are looking great and the table turned out perfect. Bravo!
+robert kujawa Thanks! I'm looking forward to using it. I'll test it out on the first frame I welded (the one you see in the video). There's a few more parts I need to make to get full use out of the table.
it is appalling to me that you don't have more subs and views. you're doing fantastic work with a garage. great attention to detail.
+Super Fabricator Hahah thanks! I think it's pretty niche subject matter, at least that's what I tell myself ;) The channel is growing though so don't worry so much! Just enjoy :)
I hope in the end you're gonna have a finished bike :D I've been thinking about building a bike from scratch and TIG welding let me to your channel. It's amazing what you're doing and it gave me a thrust of motivation that I could make a bike myself someday by making every every major component DIY style! Thumbs up and keep the videos coming.
+Perttu Puonti Hahahah me too! I will finish it. Actually thought I'd finish in February but so many new things keep sneaking up. :)
What program do you use for making the 3d designs? And btw every mistake you make during your building process teaches the most and helps others not to duplicate them. So mistakes are truly a good thing in this case.
+Perttu Puonti I'm mostly using 3d Studio Max to sketch stuff out in 3d. For frame design I used Bike CAD. Thanks for watching :)
Amazing video, as always. Very interesting to watch you problem solve. 13:05 Please cover your arms when you weld though! I knew someone who got skin cancer from the UV arc radiation after a decade of welding sculptures unprotected.
+TheImmovableMovers Yes! Another person also mentioned this and I absolutely learned my lesson. This is the most welding I have ever done in 2 days. I had a nice 'sun' burn on my arm on Monday. I felt that sun burn like sensation and was thinking, "how did I get a sun burn? I haven't been outside much.." And then it occurred to me. Never again will I let this happen.
Very cool! I like it a lot! You're making me want to build stuff!!!
+Joey Mesa Yeah!!
such a fun project to watch and well documented. thanks for sharing
+oishisakana doitashimashite
A really impressive solution to the problem.
Thanks! It got a bit complicated and I've learned a ton since. If I had to do it all again I would purchase a thick plate and simply have it blanchard ground. But its all good, it still works well! And I like all the fixture holes, they come in handy sometimes.
A slab of stone (marble, silica, mica etc., from one of those kitchen counter-top outets would make a great alignment table. When shopping, just take a good steel straight edge with you so you can handpick from the slabs available. Of course if one is wanting to, such a slab will also serve as a table jig for the tacking phase also. Expect to pay from $24 to $30 per sq. ft. for a slab that is the typical 3cm thick. No problem finding this material that is extremely flat...so flat that the straight edge can not find any error.
+Kerry Sisler Thanks for the tip! Some day when I upgrade to something larger I'll consider those options :)
Lovely table, I reckon I'll go for something similar when I'm setting up shop.
+nitroairplane Be sure to read the comments. Lots of folks mentioned some good alternatives such as getting some plate or channel Blanchard ground. Good luck!
Great work!!! Would you mind to tell the precision of your Extrusion bar, please?
I'm really enjoying your build.
TY!
I was waitin for your video for 3 weeks!!! Thank you! I love your videos
+Yeonho Cho Sorry for the wait! Thanks for waiting :)
I cried at 7:22 ...
Would a certiFlat welding table work and serve double duty?
This was an awesome video. Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure! Glad you liked it :)
Very creative. Awesome job!
+Crivo152 Thanks Marco!
Noob question: would you recommend welding on this type of alignment table as well? I really need a dual purpose table so that is important form me, as like you space is at a premium. thanks.
+Sean Rock You can indeed weld on a table like this. However you might want something at least double the width. I know some folks who picked up a certiflat table. This I think if flat enough (for most of us) to use as alignment and also a great welding table option.
weldtables.com/
I love the video's, thank you. Do you happen to have any of the diagrams you posted to P3D in any other format, non 3D. My computer will not display them. Thanks again.
+Greg Ulrich Did you try on your phone? It works on phones and tablets.. I think. Let me know. I generally don't keep diagrams (that make sense to other people). Let me know if you still need em'. I'll find a way to make them available.
do you have a faq area somewhere? I want to ask what camera and lens you use but am sure you have answered that a hundred times now. Also what's the "story" with the scar @ 18:17
+Superdude Superdude I don't have a faq on my camera setup. I was thinking of listing all the equipment I use on the website which is basically just a blank page. I mostly use a simple kit 35mm nikon lens on a sony fs700. Other two lenses are a nikon 50mm, and 18-200mm zoom. All lenses belong to my wife and she doesn't seem to mind that I'm using them ALL the time lol. The scar is from a bicycle accident I had when I was 12. Was going down a huge hill (felt huge at the time), hit a huge pothole and flew off my crappy bmx. Broke both bones and one peeked out the skin to say hello. Got about 20 stitches to sew it up.
WOW !!! Now THAT is a story. Glad I asked. Doesn't get much more epic than that.
I don't think they're made any more but did you consider something like the Park FRS-1 or building something like it? I have a feeling you're going to tell me it's not accurate enough but I'm curious what you think.
+RockShandy If I'm not mistaken, I think that tool is mainly used to hold the frame?
Hello sir. for design bicycle which software you are using ?
Steve, Well Done and I appreciate the thorough documentation of supporting resources. What was the name and artist on that sweet tune playing during welding? Take Care Man.
+aspenbanjo Thanks Gary! Amazingly that song is a royalty free tune on the TH-cam creators page.
Artist - John Deley and the 41 Players
Song - Saint Gary
Hey I was wondering if I were to build a frame and not use an alignment table, would the small amount of distortion truly affect the fit and/or ride of the bike? I don't like the idea of cutting corners but for a first bike I would like to just get something built rather than fumble with small details.
+MrGangsta9812 I've heard varying opinions on this. I think I once read that within 2mm is completely acceptable for alignment. Most riders don't even notice 6mm, maybe even more.. But for pro builders, it's one of those things that sets a frame apart from factory frame. That special attention to detail. There are also other creative ways to align a frame without a table. You can use a park tool frame alignment guage for example. It's the cold setting part that can be tricky. If you can find a way to secure your frame to something for cold setting, some kind of table while you deflect.
+Pithy Bikes Thanks, really appreciate your response, that's one thing I really enjoy...the fact that you are willing to share your opinions and things you have learned with others who share your passion.
+MrGangsta9812 I'm only paying it forward :) I get so much help from builders with more experience than me.
How meticulous! Excellent work.
Bravo, bel lavoro amico.
+Massimo Ielmini Grazie!
Hello. I watched all your videos and i was really impressed. Is there a way to contact you in privet? Like mail etc... I want to build a jig of my own and i was wondering if i could ask you some questions about all the great work that did.
Thanks
Ofer
+TheOferlaufer You can reach me at pithybikes@gmail.com
another question for you.what do you do for your 9 to 5 so to speak?or are you full time building bikes?curious is all.great job in these videos seriously.very nice craftsmanship here sir.
+jeremy doblinger i make art for mobile games full time. Maybe some day bike will pay the bills bit thats a long way off.
And again a very nice video! keep posting your work:) Which pulse settings do you use for welding thin walled Chromoly?
+MK MK I'm running 50 amps, at .8 pps, 50% backgrond current, 25% pulse time on. But I've been getting a but more comfortable so I'll run a bit faster which puts me at .6pps, and 30% pulse time on. Machines vary though and I'm pretty sure that the dials on my machine are not accurate. The best way is to see it to get a feel for timing. At some point I'll post a video showing that.
+Pithy Bikes TY!
Keep an eye on your local tools for sale adds. A surface plate even in bad shape would be more than flat enough for this work. A few 10th of a thousandth is doable over 24" on a granite surface plate in decent shape. Definitely better than you can reliably measure without environmental controls.
+Shawn Lund Thanks! Second time around when I upgrade some day I'd love to go with granite or cast iron :)
And what shall builder do if he founds that weld frame is not aligned?
Great vid's! Well put togeather. Not to be an ass but You REALLY need to cover your arms and wear propper uv rated saftey glasses while welding, the UV is going to lead to having a really bad time down the road. Cotton capes, are light and cheap. Cheers
+58spitfirerocker No man, you are absolutely right. In fact, I got a sun/weld burn from this build. I never welded that much before and this was my first time getting a burn on my arm from welding. Thanks for the words of caution, I'm taking it to heart.
+Pithy Bikes Right on, If you need any help or info or reviews of gear,hoods,ppe let me know. I'm a local welder. Your attention to detail, and video quality is epic. Can't wait to see the frame done! Cheers
+58spitfirerocker Thanks, I'll reach out if I need some help. Cheers!
did you turn the alloy round the other way to check its true ,,, without doing that all you have shown with a dti is that the table is the same shape as the alloy.
+tom thompson Good question! Yes I did :)
great stuff , its easy to get carried away and forget something like that ,,,
Very Nice video dude!!!
+Thiago Alqudwa Thanks!
Hey bud, were you using cold rolled steel tubing?
+Troye Stonich Yes! I think.. the welded seam gave it away.
Well done!
+Paul Ketelaar TYTY!
great vids keep going...greetings from mexico friend
Greetings! Thanks for watching :)
Extrusions aren't always flat. Some are out quite a bit. Getting something blanchard ground is a good way to make a flat surface. Not too $$$.
+Parker Musselman Yes, another person also commented on this. Live and learn :) I could probably have saved a good amount of time by purchasing large channel and getting it blanchard ground. Thanks for watching!
i am seriously thinking to order a bicycle from you....
i would suggest you to name your first bicycle "" Pithy zero tolerance""
great job......
I'll let you know when I start taking orders ;)
An old cast iron top from an old table saw would prolly work good and u could prolly find a saw for a decent price that u could rrpurpose the table from just a suggestion...
Yes, I've heard of some people using a table saw top. If I had more space that would be a good option. But unfortunately, I only have space for something compact. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
Building a table to build stuff on it feels like reinventing wheels every time we build a new automobile. Isn't there a better solution for this!!
Measure with micrometer, mark with felt tip pen, and cut with chain saw. >:)
+Schpankme Verimuch bahahah
For what your doing you don't need vent holes you would need them if you normalized the weldmount
+Milton Fludgecow Ah, I've always learned it keeps moisture from building up inside the tube..?
Rename this video "Project Overkill"
Nice work.
haha so true! In retrospect knowing what I know now, its not necessary to have a table like this. A simple flat surface is good enough. Anyone who says otherwise is making a big deal out of nothing (or charging you way too much for your frame) ;)
You thought about getting a welding table? Like a "tab and slot" table...
+Nathan Hamler Hi Nathan, I did but I already own my crappy welding table and didn't want to throw it out. I wonder how flat one of those tab and slot tables is.. I guess the tricky part is where to secure the BB post. It needs to be really rigid.
maldito locoo.!!!
:D
👍👍👍💛💛💛
That's a travel indicator. Not a test indicator. Your more so parallelism of the extrusion not flatness of the plate. .006 end to end is pretty fucking flat for what your doing, but for $250 you could have had a huge plate Blanchard ground. i never understood these dedicated frame inspection tables... Surface plate?
Good job man. Always like watching your shit. I sound like a douche. I need to remember not everyone is a Machinist.
+andrew brabank Hey I appreciate the insight! But wouldn't the plate itself be expensive? I suppose if I found something in a scrap yard. Steel is always super expensive everywhere I look on the CA East Bay. Thanks for watching and correcting my terminology :)
+andrew brabank Hey I just looked up similar size steel plate and you are absolutely right. I could have saved some money if I had known or looked into Blanchard grinding. :( Life lessons ... :) Thanks again!
Wasted a lot of time strong hand us cap head bolts to bolt down their plates to the base
ah!! :'( Next time.. Thanks for watching!
Please wear a long sleeved shirt, getting burns from an arc isn't very fun. ask me how I know haha.
+erikdude666 yes. Agreed. This build did get me 'sun' burnt.
Iv got some zebra stripes down my right arm from my jacket sliding down my arm at work aha.
Get a marble slab.
:)