Very impressive. 3 Zed's is a great idea. Your room needs some sound deadening/absorbing material to make your narrative cleaner. Anything that makes the bed larger gets my vote. The cost of 3 zed rods versus the performance of them is a wash.
Warm greetings from New Zealand! This sounds great, I would absolutely build one - I had already ordered extrusion and bolts to build a Rook 2020 with, but combining that with a Prusa Mini bed would be a fantastic upgrade. I don't mind the increased BOM if I get to learn some new techniques in return!
Single motor triple Z with a belt synchronizing them is an excellent choice. It's the classic VzBot design, and has the benefit that belt can slip first on Z axis crash.
I liked the design, and having 3 Z-axis screws would be great, easy to build both 1 or 3 Z-motors. Also, I'd like to see a version with bigger bed, maybe the 220x220 MK2B/MK3 or 235x235 from Creality, as they are quite easy to find.
Thanks for sharing your iterative design thinking. The use of the 170mm squared bed makes good sense. Does the new position for the pulleys mean that the pulley belts will be longer?
Prusa Mini bed sounds awesome, Triple Z sounds interesting, but what about 2020 X rail to hold the weight of a direct drive set up better? Stoked on this.
I think the MGN9 is enough, plus I don't have enough room to add a 200mm 2020 for the X, and may biggest goal with 2020 printer is to not have custom sizes
Is there any problem with this type of Z axis? I wanna build a simple corexy printer from my ender3 because im not using it anymore but sometimes my V0 is a bit small:D Your design looks great for that conversion but i want a bit more build volume about 250ish and use as many ender parts as possible.
yes I used that on my Rook Legacy, however there is a chance the motors can become out of sync. It's still best for 1 motor to drive 2 or 3 with a single belt
Rook 2020 was an interesting design already but looks like I'll budge in and make a Fortress when it's released. I sooooo want a Corexy without wasting the parts I have already (Voron kits come with electronics and printheads); I don't want to buy an Ender 5 and then gut it to make ZeroG Mercury. Thanks for sharing your excellent designs!
@@BigfootPrinting bed, endstops, PSU, other structural stuff that is kept. I'm not super comfortable speccing and replicating, and testing to make basically what's already out on the market. Rook/2020 seem like a simpler build anyway, and what I have is a mainboard, extruder, Hotend and some steppers so it'd be perfect if the structural parts, motion system and fasteners and such are already sorted out for me. That being said, ZeroG is working on a BOM that uses a purpose-built frame from scratch. I just feel like Rolohaun's designs are simpler and maybe cheaper for someone like me who'd have to self source.
@@twanheijkoop6753 I'm aware :) I'd pick whichever is the simplest tbh, I feel like the Hydra 3 point bed mechanism is a bit overkill + especially for a small bed.
@@Rolohaun yeah thats what I was thinking, have the single z motor act as the sun gear, fixed planets, and the reduction would be off the outer ring which could be toothed for belts
Usually my designs are very easy to build, I don't use custom 2020 sizes, everything can be sourced very easy. No custom parts. This is shaping up to be a 170x170 printable area printer with triple Z and 4010 fans for cooling. 3D printed side panels are unique to this
Very impressive. 3 Zed's is a great idea. Your room needs some sound deadening/absorbing material to make your narrative cleaner. Anything that makes the bed larger gets my vote. The cost of 3 zed rods versus the performance of them is a wash.
+1 for the Prusa mini bed. I think it is a much nicer size.
This is a great idea because it keeps 3 point leveling in sync and that's also the same Z setup that Bambu Labs uses for their printers.
As someone who just bought a Prusa mini bed to use on one of your printers, I support this idea.
Warm greetings from New Zealand! This sounds great, I would absolutely build one - I had already ordered extrusion and bolts to build a Rook 2020 with, but combining that with a Prusa Mini bed would be a fantastic upgrade. I don't mind the increased BOM if I get to learn some new techniques in return!
"She's beautiful Jim" - McCoy
Single motor triple Z with a belt synchronizing them is an excellent choice. It's the classic VzBot design, and has the benefit that belt can slip first on Z axis crash.
I'm all about the triple z config with a more robust bed. I'm looking forward to building the fortress!
I also agree on the prusa mini bed, seems a smart move
I liked the design, and having 3 Z-axis screws would be great, easy to build both 1 or 3 Z-motors. Also, I'd like to see a version with bigger bed, maybe the 220x220 MK2B/MK3 or 235x235 from Creality, as they are quite easy to find.
I have plans to make a ender 3 style bed CoreXY printer soon!
Triple z sounds great, have you looked at the vzbot, it's my favourite z-design so far.
yep I have seen it, the vzbot dual lead screw seems too work well also!
Please take your time dude! 😁🤘
Alternate title: Man got tired of waiting for his PRUSA XL and decided to build his own.
Actually it's more like a PRUSA XS
Bigger Volume sounds awesome. How about tripple z but belted?
if I did that I would need to add two more steppers and a larger mainboard and probe which for this printer I don't want to do
Sounds like you wanna build a Simplecore Legacy 😃
@@Rolohaun ok got it :)
Thanks for sharing your iterative design thinking. The use of the 170mm squared bed makes good sense. Does the new position for the pulleys mean that the pulley belts will be longer?
yes, the fortress belts were always longer. The Rook Evo BOM called for 6M of belts so that won't change
Prusa Mini bed sounds awesome, Triple Z sounds interesting, but what about 2020 X rail to hold the weight of a direct drive set up better? Stoked on this.
I think the MGN9 is enough, plus I don't have enough room to add a 200mm 2020 for the X, and may biggest goal with 2020 printer is to not have custom sizes
@@Rolohaun excellent. This will probably be the printer I build first of yours! Checks all the boxes.
wow its great
Cool. Now get on with it!
Is there any problem with this type of Z axis? I wanna build a simple corexy printer from my ender3 because im not using it anymore but sometimes my V0 is a bit small:D Your design looks great for that conversion but i want a bit more build volume about 250ish and use as many ender parts as possible.
you want a triple supported Z for a bed that size
Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes
Many boards have dual z support, and that can make it symmetric…
Hmm, to be clear, I was thinking front corners with belted screws, back corners with z motors.
yes I used that on my Rook Legacy, however there is a chance the motors can become out of sync. It's still best for 1 motor to drive 2 or 3 with a single belt
Rook 2020 was an interesting design already but looks like I'll budge in and make a Fortress when it's released. I sooooo want a Corexy without wasting the parts I have already (Voron kits come with electronics and printheads); I don't want to buy an Ender 5 and then gut it to make ZeroG Mercury. Thanks for sharing your excellent designs!
Why would you need to buy an ender 5? You just need a similar frame. Buy the extrusions and make it. 50 bucks.
thank you
@@BigfootPrinting bed, endstops, PSU, other structural stuff that is kept. I'm not super comfortable speccing and replicating, and testing to make basically what's already out on the market. Rook/2020 seem like a simpler build anyway, and what I have is a mainboard, extruder, Hotend and some steppers so it'd be perfect if the structural parts, motion system and fasteners and such are already sorted out for me. That being said, ZeroG is working on a BOM that uses a purpose-built frame from scratch.
I just feel like Rolohaun's designs are simpler and maybe cheaper for someone like me who'd have to self source.
@@TheCyberSpidey there coming out with a zeroG custom frame sometime soon.
@@twanheijkoop6753 I'm aware :)
I'd pick whichever is the simplest tbh, I feel like the Hydra 3 point bed mechanism is a bit overkill + especially for a small bed.
geared planetary z theres no need for speed so you could use gears to add torque and accuracy
I want to try that an another design, I don't want to add more motors to this build, I want users to still be able to use basic 5 driver mainboards
@@Rolohaun yeah thats what I was thinking, have the single z motor act as the sun gear, fixed planets, and the reduction would be off the outer ring which could be toothed for belts
Where does this printer stand with other corexy designs available, what are the pro's?
Usually my designs are very easy to build, I don't use custom 2020 sizes, everything can be sourced very easy. No custom parts. This is shaping up to be a 170x170 printable area printer with triple Z and 4010 fans for cooling. 3D printed side panels are unique to this
How hard would calibrating the Z screws be?
you can undo the set screws on the pulleys then level the bed mounts. Also the bed with be on springs and bolt so you can fine tune it.
Why this and not voron v0?😅
they are two very different printers
@@Rolohaun looks very similar printer thats why im askin
@@zola5584 this is 170x170, will have triple Z, printed side panels, 4010 part cooling, 2020 frame. most everything is different.
@@Rolohaun and what about speed limits, price range?😁
@@zola5584 cheapest v0 for my is 550 CAD this should be around 500. Speed will be on par with v0
Muito bom!