One of the biggest issues with Joe Boot is he’s far more concerned with calling the civil magistrate to heel, than he is in seeing the individual Christian absorb the idea of “all of Christ for all of Life” into our every interaction. That’s the true way of the Kingdom.
Theonomists seem overly concerned with authority. They mean to have authority and exercise their understanding of God's Law over the people. I contend that their understanding of God's Law and God's Law as it actually is are two different things. This is because none of us have been glorified yet; we are still being sanctified. Improper motivations and misunderstandings can still get into our minds and distort our attempts to do good. In short, we still sin. Additionally, one could also argue that the United States is already a theonomy. Boot and Durbin might say otherwise. The counter to that is to say that murder is illegal, theft is illegal, and bearing false witness is illegal. If they object, one could say, "Are those not God's laws?" Sure, it's not perfect, as we would agree. What they need to do is to explain what _more_ they want to make illegal in the civil code and what the punishments for disobedience will be. My concern about theonomists is that I'm suspicious they want to execute sinners, that they want that authority.
@@TheMaineSurveyor they are essentially in a bit of a No True Scots fallacy. And I’m so doing they undermine their own, self-proclaimed, best argument of “its either Autonomy or Theonomy” which itself is a false dilemma. Even Israel at its most faithful (good luck trying to nail that one down) barely attained to most of what Yahweh laid out in the Law.
@@TheMaineSurveyor and even if they don’t want that authority themselves, they are laying the theological groundwork for a future generation to have that authority and wield it. What they keep forgetting is the throughout history, often the most violent and tyrannical regimes are essentially the zombified remains of strong ‘Christendom’ states.
Heard a couple talks from Mr Boot and I can't knock him, what he says I personally understand to be true. Who Jesus is, where we go when we die and evolution according to scripture. Praise brother 🙌🏾
What a coincidence! Dr. Joe Boot preached at my church in Edmonton a few weeks ago. It’s really cool to hear about your partnership in the academy; I’m planning to go in 2019!
As believers living on Earth, we are only declared righteous; we are not actually righteous. Therefore, we will not be able to set up a righteous government. The Puritans couldn't do it. Ancient Israel couldn't do it. But we do have the Holy Spirit, with the Law written on our hearts. We also have a charge to go out and make disciples. We have not been commanded to go out and take over governments and attempt to reestablish the Law over the people. The Great Commission will be 100% successful; it will not fail. Exactly 100% of the people that God has elected for salvation will be saved; no more, and no less. We don't know how many people this will be at any given time, but that's okay. God has it all under control. One day, Christ will return and set everything to rights.
I'm currently looking for a church. I have to say that I base the church I attend on the fundimentals of the Bible. I ask the same thing to those churches. There's been more then a few times when I said "So you aren't a Christian". Thanks for not compromising the truth.
Yes, afraid, apathy, asleep, to expound, not able to pull people out of continual waymark backslidden. Sorrow, God-Jesus says it grieves Him greatly. "Narrow minded people on a narrow minded street"
Then He *said to His disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. 38 Therefore beseech the Lord of the harvest to send out workers into His harvest.” Matthew 9:37-38
Question for everyone who loves watching Jeff Durbin, as I do: Im a little scared he's playing with dominion theology?!?!?!??!?! Does anyone have a clear understanding of where he DOES settle?? Have I been watching him for the past X months just to come and find out he's into dominion theology? !? Im VERY concerned. Its not only an unbiblical wedge but also its borderline heretical. I find it hard to believe Jeff is so far off base in this respect. It breaks my heart.
He believes all authority has been given to Christ, in heaven and on earth. That someday christianity will complete the great commission. He is a post-mil theonomist. I am thankful for him.
Jeremy - You seem to have a warped understanding of "dominion theology". For one, we could do without your feigned concern and condescension. Go educate yourself on the Puritans' "God-entranced vision of all things" and reflect back on the impact you are personally making for the "working out of your salvation" in your own circle of influence. Hopefully, you will then see that the "gospel of the kingdom" is more than just a message about a king who died for his enemies. That is essential and beautiful and amazing. But it's much more. God is reconciling all things to Himself. He's making all things new! Does Jesus Christ reign and rule over all aspects of YOUR being? Do you desire that? Do you desire to see that extended out to your family and community and society? The world is a messed up place and mightily disordered because of sin, but as Christians we have the great privilege and call to be co-workers in the reconciliation/restoration of ALL THINGS TO GOD, because as Joe quoted Romans 11:36, ALL things are from Him, through Him and to Him. To Him be the glory forever, AMEN.
@@TheIronmangabriel God will see to it that the Great Commission is 100% successful: every person He's elected for salvation will be saved; no more, no less. What percentage of the population living at any given time is up to Him. Our attempts to guess are pathetic next to His perfect plan.
Looks like they built the land on 3 major sins. Well except slavery which Exodus teaches us how to keep a slave for 4 years n on the 5th year let him unless he is married n wants to stay with his family. At which point he is a slave for life.
Man I've been watching this channel for a few months now... Love watching the witnessing encounters, but this is discouraging because what I'm hearing sounds like dominionism. Please either clarify that you aren't saying we are supposed to be making our culture Christian or, if that is indeed what you are saying, please give me some biblical evidence that we are commanded to do that. Our main goal should be to share the Gospel and pray for the people to receive it, not to change people's minds about cultural issues.
Is Christ Lord of everything or not? If He is, then we are to transform culture. It is very, very, very mistaken to believe in a sort of Pietism that privatizes faith. To give up on Culture, Politics etc and then turn around and complain that we live in a Godless society is the height of insanity.
Cultural issues ARE effected by the Gospel. The Gospel transforms, it is NOT a private, hidden thing. Remember, we don’t hide our light under a bushel? We are salt and light of the world. We should not be going thru life with an Escapist mentality.
Jesus is primarily concerned with saving us out of this present evil world we live in. It’s not about having a dominionist theocracy here on earth now . Jesus will establish his kingdom in the life of his believers and when He comes to be admired by all men at His second coming . But this kingdom now belongs to Satan . -- Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “ The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.” And the twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying, “We give You thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign. And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.” And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm. Revelation 11:15-19
Jesus died to save us and take us out of this world? This is more Gnostic than Christian thinking. Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. At the consummation of all things, there will be a new heaven and new earth. Not escapism from the earth. God will one day change the earth making all things new. Just as believers will one day be raised to new life, so all creation will be made new. This is why the trees metaphorically clap their hands, the creation longs for the redemption of the children of God because it means the world's deliverance from corruption, which it had been subjected to.The good creation is good, God isn't going to throw his good work in the trash but redeem it. The kingdom of darkness was defeated at the cross, and has been transferred to the kingdom of light. Jesus is King, and his kingdom is presently here on earth as in heaven. This kingdom talk fills nearly 90% of the Gospels and is the aspect of the Gospel itself prior to Jesus' death, and was inaugurated by His death and what the parables had spoken of.
Amen. It is NOT Dominionism or whatever. Christ is Lord of ALL and EVERYTHING. Francis Schaefer spoke on this often too. Read ‘A Christian Manifesto’ We are not to go thru life with an Escapist mentality.
@@Cinnamonbuns13 It is ok. Because I have a happy expectation in Christ. I will be snatched away with the Body of Christ before God destroys this world. It will get very bad on this earth and the beast will persecute and kill and attack the saints in great affliction. The saints are not now reigning we are not in the 1000 years and we do not have authority over the nations and the kingdom has not been set up yet on this earth. Dn7 Rv13 2Th2 MT24,25
The Holy Quran Allaah says in Surat Maryam Relate in the Book (the story of) Maryam, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah." He said: "Nay, I am only a Messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son." She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" He said: "So (it will be): thy Lord saith, 'That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': it is matter (so) decreed." So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree: she cried (in her anguish) "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!" But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee; "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree; it will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
The whole world will worship the beast except for those who are hated , persecuted and killed for their faith in Christ . You guys are wasting so much time talking about it. Just get out into the harvest , it’s ripe . Yes we go up to meet Him and then come back down to earth to reign for a thousand years .
They're postmillennials. They think Christ returns at the end of the Millennium. Prior to His return, they think the world will be virtually 100% Christian, and that it will be heaven on Earth--utopia--because they think this is the logical conclusion of the Great Commission, what they mean by the Great Commission being successful. They think anything less than that is a failure of the Great Commission. I think the Great Commission will absolutely be successful: God will save everyone that He has called to salvation; He won't lose anyone that He calls. I have no idea what percentage of the population that will be at any given time, and neither does Joe Boot or Jeff Durbin, but they think they do.
I wish you guys would start doing these "shows" again. They are awesome!
LOVE THIS CHANNEL SO MUCH👑❤
Amazing, bold, clear minds and hearts indeed!
One of the biggest issues with Joe Boot is he’s far more concerned with calling the civil magistrate to heel, than he is in seeing the individual Christian absorb the idea of “all of Christ for all of Life” into our every interaction. That’s the true way of the Kingdom.
Theonomists seem overly concerned with authority. They mean to have authority and exercise their understanding of God's Law over the people. I contend that their understanding of God's Law and God's Law as it actually is are two different things. This is because none of us have been glorified yet; we are still being sanctified. Improper motivations and misunderstandings can still get into our minds and distort our attempts to do good. In short, we still sin.
Additionally, one could also argue that the United States is already a theonomy. Boot and Durbin might say otherwise. The counter to that is to say that murder is illegal, theft is illegal, and bearing false witness is illegal. If they object, one could say, "Are those not God's laws?" Sure, it's not perfect, as we would agree. What they need to do is to explain what _more_ they want to make illegal in the civil code and what the punishments for disobedience will be. My concern about theonomists is that I'm suspicious they want to execute sinners, that they want that authority.
@@TheMaineSurveyor they are essentially in a bit of a No True Scots fallacy. And I’m so doing they undermine their own, self-proclaimed, best argument of “its either Autonomy or Theonomy” which itself is a false dilemma.
Even Israel at its most faithful (good luck trying to nail that one down) barely attained to most of what Yahweh laid out in the Law.
@@TheMaineSurveyor and even if they don’t want that authority themselves, they are laying the theological groundwork for a future generation to have that authority and wield it. What they keep forgetting is the throughout history, often the most violent and tyrannical regimes are essentially the zombified remains of strong ‘Christendom’ states.
@@interestedmeow Very well said.
Great show. Love the interview. It's the new Johnny Carson show, but with truth.
I cannot find Joe Boot's episode on The Zoomer Report at all. I want to watch it after that ballin opening
It’s on the Ezra Institute TH-cam page
@@andrenajem9939 I found it. Thanks
Could someone drop the link? I'm looking and still can't find it :(
This is profoundly amazing.
Heard a couple talks from Mr Boot and I can't knock him, what he says I personally understand to be true. Who Jesus is, where we go when we die and evolution according to scripture. Praise brother 🙌🏾
What a coincidence! Dr. Joe Boot preached at my church in Edmonton a few weeks ago. It’s really cool to hear about your partnership in the academy; I’m planning to go in 2019!
He will be coming to speak in Edmonton 2020
This man is truly one of the bravest men walking in this earth a time like this.
LG from Austria 🇦🇹❤🙋♂️GOD bless you Brother 🇦🇹❤🇩🇪💘🇺🇸❤🇷🇴💘🇨🇭❤🇹🇭❤🇮🇱......
I wish the Ezra institute would have an distance course for anyone in the world. This stuff would be so needed in Sweden!
Definitely....Nordic/Scandinavian countries seem to have lost the foundations....
I have a lot to learn to be able to speak at work so I’m not terminated for speaking truth
Man these guys are smart and solid. If only they would reform their views on baptism and church government.
As a canadian i wish i knew who he was before
Me too! Glad to see he has an institute in Niagara Region, where I grew up!!!
He is amazing!!!!
As believers living on Earth, we are only declared righteous; we are not actually righteous. Therefore, we will not be able to set up a righteous government. The Puritans couldn't do it. Ancient Israel couldn't do it. But we do have the Holy Spirit, with the Law written on our hearts. We also have a charge to go out and make disciples. We have not been commanded to go out and take over governments and attempt to reestablish the Law over the people.
The Great Commission will be 100% successful; it will not fail. Exactly 100% of the people that God has elected for salvation will be saved; no more, and no less. We don't know how many people this will be at any given time, but that's okay. God has it all under control. One day, Christ will return and set everything to rights.
Does the video have static noise like t.v. antenna? if so thats funny because you tube runs on wifi not antenna.
Creation is a manifestation of the word of God.
God Spoke and and it came to be.
Excellent!
YES!!! DAS BOOT!!!
Does anybody have the link to the “Zooma Report?” that they play at the very beginning of the video?
wow wow wow PRAISE GOD!!!
I'm currently looking for a church. I have to say that I base the church I attend on the fundimentals of the Bible. I ask the same thing to those churches. There's been more then a few times when I said "So you aren't a Christian". Thanks for not compromising the truth.
Does anyone have the link for the video that is shown at the beginning of this video?
If only he could PROVE it! As it is...
Yes, afraid, apathy, asleep, to expound, not able to pull people out of continual waymark backslidden. Sorrow, God-Jesus says it grieves Him greatly. "Narrow minded people on a narrow minded street"
Then He *said to His disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. 38 Therefore beseech the Lord of the harvest to send out workers into His harvest.”
Matthew 9:37-38
This whole setup just seems weird.
Like Minders!!!
Question for everyone who loves watching Jeff Durbin, as I do:
Im a little scared he's playing with dominion theology?!?!?!??!?!
Does anyone have a clear understanding of where he DOES settle??
Have I been watching him for the past X months just to come and find out he's into dominion theology? !?
Im VERY concerned.
Its not only an unbiblical wedge but also its borderline heretical.
I find it hard to believe Jeff is so far off base in this respect. It breaks my heart.
He believes all authority has been given to Christ, in heaven and on earth. That someday christianity will complete the great commission. He is a post-mil theonomist. I am thankful for him.
Jeremy - You seem to have a warped understanding of "dominion theology". For one, we could do without your feigned concern and condescension. Go educate yourself on the Puritans' "God-entranced vision of all things" and reflect back on the impact you are personally making for the "working out of your salvation" in your own circle of influence. Hopefully, you will then see that the "gospel of the kingdom" is more than just a message about a king who died for his enemies. That is essential and beautiful and amazing. But it's much more. God is reconciling all things to Himself. He's making all things new!
Does Jesus Christ reign and rule over all aspects of YOUR being? Do you desire that? Do you desire to see that extended out to your family and community and society? The world is a messed up place and mightily disordered because of sin, but as Christians we have the great privilege and call to be co-workers in the reconciliation/restoration of ALL THINGS TO GOD, because as Joe quoted Romans 11:36, ALL things are from Him, through Him and to Him. To Him be the glory forever, AMEN.
DON'T confuse Bethel's (Pentecostal dominionism) with reformed dominion theology.
From the get go from Genesis on we are commanded to take dominion.
@@TheIronmangabriel God will see to it that the Great Commission is 100% successful: every person He's elected for salvation will be saved; no more, no less. What percentage of the population living at any given time is up to Him. Our attempts to guess are pathetic next to His perfect plan.
With all this basement talk makes me want to go watch the fight club. Kind of*
Looks like they built the land on 3 major sins. Well except slavery which Exodus teaches us how to keep a slave for 4 years n on the 5th year let him unless he is married n wants to stay with his family. At which point he is a slave for life.
Man I've been watching this channel for a few months now... Love watching the witnessing encounters, but this is discouraging because what I'm hearing sounds like dominionism. Please either clarify that you aren't saying we are supposed to be making our culture Christian or, if that is indeed what you are saying, please give me some biblical evidence that we are commanded to do that. Our main goal should be to share the Gospel and pray for the people to receive it, not to change people's minds about cultural issues.
Is Christ Lord of everything or not?
If He is, then we are to transform culture.
It is very, very, very mistaken to believe in a sort of Pietism that privatizes faith.
To give up on Culture, Politics etc and then turn around and complain that we live in a Godless society is the height of insanity.
Cultural issues ARE effected by the Gospel.
The Gospel transforms, it is NOT a private, hidden thing.
Remember, we don’t hide our light under a bushel?
We are salt and light of the world.
We should not be going thru life with an Escapist mentality.
Bringing the gospel to the culture will change the culture into a christian one.
Jesus is primarily concerned with saving us out of this present evil world we live in. It’s not about having a dominionist theocracy here on earth now . Jesus will establish his kingdom in the life of his believers and when He comes to be admired by all men at His second coming . But this kingdom now belongs to Satan . --
Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “ The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.” And the twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying, “We give You thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign. And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.” And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.
Revelation 11:15-19
Jesus died to save us and take us out of this world? This is more Gnostic than Christian thinking. Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. At the consummation of all things, there will be a new heaven and new earth. Not escapism from the earth. God will one day change the earth making all things new. Just as believers will one day be raised to new life, so all creation will be made new. This is why the trees metaphorically clap their hands, the creation longs for the redemption of the children of God because it means the world's deliverance from corruption, which it had been subjected to.The good creation is good, God isn't going to throw his good work in the trash but redeem it. The kingdom of darkness was defeated at the cross, and has been transferred to the kingdom of light. Jesus is King, and his kingdom is presently here on earth as in heaven. This kingdom talk fills nearly 90% of the Gospels and is the aspect of the Gospel itself prior to Jesus' death, and was inaugurated by His death and what the parables had spoken of.
Amen.
It is NOT Dominionism or whatever.
Christ is Lord of ALL and EVERYTHING.
Francis Schaefer spoke on this often too.
Read ‘A Christian Manifesto’
We are not to go thru life with an Escapist mentality.
This is a perfect example of premature realization. Its a false hope. We are in a deep bad apostasy and it will only get worse.
Ok boomer
@@Cinnamonbuns13 It is ok. Because I have a happy expectation in Christ. I will be snatched away with the Body of Christ before God destroys this world. It will get very bad on this earth and the beast will persecute and kill and attack the saints in great affliction. The saints are not now reigning we are not in the 1000 years and we do not have authority over the nations and the kingdom has not been set up yet on this earth. Dn7 Rv13 2Th2 MT24,25
That is one tacky set.
Seriously? That's your criticism? It's a church, not a Hollywood studio. 🙄
@@AMightyFortressIsOurGod24 A church? What are you talking about?
The Holy Quran
Allaah says in Surat Maryam
Relate in the Book (the story of) Maryam, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East.
She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
She said: "I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah."
He said: "Nay, I am only a Messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son."
She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
He said: "So (it will be): thy Lord saith, 'That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': it is matter (so) decreed."
So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.
And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree: she cried (in her anguish) "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!"
But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;
"And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree; it will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
The whole world will worship the beast except for those who are hated , persecuted and killed for their faith in Christ . You guys are wasting so much time talking about it. Just get out into the harvest , it’s ripe . Yes we go up to meet Him and then come back down to earth to reign for a thousand years .
They're postmillennials. They think Christ returns at the end of the Millennium. Prior to His return, they think the world will be virtually 100% Christian, and that it will be heaven on Earth--utopia--because they think this is the logical conclusion of the Great Commission, what they mean by the Great Commission being successful. They think anything less than that is a failure of the Great Commission.
I think the Great Commission will absolutely be successful: God will save everyone that He has called to salvation; He won't lose anyone that He calls. I have no idea what percentage of the population that will be at any given time, and neither does Joe Boot or Jeff Durbin, but they think they do.
LOL. Dispensational premillennial gobbledegook.