I drove Matt Smith to the LAX airport the day he left LA - as well the equipment truck for the First Poison Tour with Howie Hubberman as Manager - Super Fun Times! - I remember Vicky well... These Interviews are awesome, they bring back so many fond memories of a Great decade in History.
@@fullinbloom - so many good times with Poison, we always played strip poker with the girls, we deal from the bottom of the deck, have them naked in no time. Bret had girls sign his mattress (no sheets/just a bare mattress on the floor) - so many signatures, no where to sign. It was not uncommon to have sex w/ 4 - 5 girls a day. We were young and viral in competition. - Charmed Life for sure. - One Night in Buffalo NY stands out. - The return to LA stay at the Holiday Inn we had machetes and chopped all the furniture into splinters... ...-
A movie about poison would be so much fun?? Anything goes because it did?? THE story and content is endless?? WOW!!! THAT DECADE PERIOD!!! I WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF A PROJECT LIKE THAT!!!!
The interviews on this channel are fantastic. The interviewer knows what questions to ask, how to ask them, and then how to get out of the way and let the person being interviewed speak. A lot of journalists just like to hear the sound of their own voice and just talk over the people they are interviewing. How this guy doesn’t have a larger platform I don’t know. I wish I worked in radio. I would give this guy a two hour show every day and just turn him loose. I’ve had so much fun listening to this channel over the last year or so that I’ve been a subscriber. Is there a way to support the channel on Patreon? Please keep up the good work.
Hi John. I'm sorry it took me so long to find this comment. It's rather challenging these days as so many comments roll in daily. Thank you for your kind words. No Patreon. I started one a long time ago but, so far, decided against launching it. A run of new interviews is on the horizon, so hang tight. The best way to show your support is to keep on listening. Lastly, if you ever decide to get into radio, please reach out! Thanks again, my friend.
For my 12th birthday , In 1986, my mother took me to see RATT/Poison @ the Cumberland County Civic Center in Portland Maine... What a great time to be alive!
That's amazing, I was around 14 when I saw Ratt and Poison on tour together. But this was in like 2007. Unfortunately I was born too late to experience this music in its prime.
My brother and I were at this show as well! Between the Cumberland County Civic Center and Old Orchard Beach we saw most of the biggest metal acts of the 80s at least once.
I knew Vicky back in the late 80's. She really knew the music business and where the industry was headed. I'm not 100% positive but I think it was Vicky who told me and my friend that "rock will be dead in 5 years". Not only did we not believe her we actually laughed.
rock n roll never stops changing or evolving but will never die especially when every kind of music or songs that move you, are called Rock n roll hence the r and r "hall of fame?"
@@kenyoung9284, that is not the definition. The "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" is no longer exclusively about rock and roll. It should be called the Pop Music Hall of Fame.
Agreed I think it was nice when Dolly Parton refused to accept an invite or induction to the Rock n Roll of Fame, she said she’s not Rock N Roll plain and simple and people still complained weird culture these days, just don’t see the full picture
You may have dodged a bullet. Likewise, it is very possible you are still alive as a result of that simple fact. So many self destruct. I recall talking to C.C. Deville (Bruce J.) one night at the Rainbow on Sunset in 2002 or 3, and he was clearly down he confided in me, he was "not sure why people befriend him, what was their "true"motive?/as a result of his fame..." I really felt for him. - I wanted to be famous when I was younger, (was not willing to sacrifice enough apparently.) And Like you, I look back thinking I am way better off. I enjoy my Privacy, going on a vacation or whatever and be anonymous. Priceless.
@@Rev7Seven7 absolutely. I appreciate your reply and understanding of what it is like to be a musician or any of those famous fucked up lifestyles. Amber Heard shit on Jonny Depps bed. Lmaooo not to say I havent had that happen once or 5 times with other substances, still hit home. So happy to be able to write and record and perform without some evil person try and get touchy. I truly one million percent absolutely LOVE and appreciate the few fans I have but like you said so thankful to be in the grey. If you ever need some new original music were on the R Nation. Peace.
I was playing the Los Angeles clubs from 86-89 and I actually went to Vicky's apartment and talked to her about managing my band in mid 1987. GnR had already signed to Geffen and they had hired a larger management company, but Vicky had been hired at Geffen in the A&R department and she was looking for other bands to manage. I sat on her couch and I can clearly remember her and her boyfriend shuffling thru VHS tapes and showing me bands and talking to me about how important the image and show were to getting a deal. I had sent her some demos prior to our meeting and I brought more songs that evening and played them for her. She liked some of the material, especially the power ballads, but wasn't big on our "jeans, tshirts and boots" image because bands like Poison and Faster Pussycat were very androgynous, which is what she was looking for at that time. Seemed like a nice lady, nothing ever came of our meeting.
Do you recall her boyfriends name? does Jerry ring a bell? I know my one Guitarist Jerry lived with her not sure what year, she was A&R with Geffen at that time... Funny Story I play Drums, I get a call to audition for "Hollywood Rose" - I go over and I see these five guys all strung out and I say fuck this and split, never even play, I had just left a band where the singer had real Heroin issue, I think I am not subjecting myself to any BS. Turns out later LA Guns breaks up and Hollywood Rose split up and half join half to become GUNS N ROSES - I wonder if was a blessing or a curse i did not pursue that gig. - What was your Band? - I played there same time like you ...84 - 97 on and off. I Jammed with Alice Cooper in 1989
@@Rev7Seven7 I don't remember her BFs name. I went there with my singer and when we left, I remember talking about what a dork the BF was. LoL! During the mid to late 80s, that little area on Sunset had Geffen, Atlantic and McGhee's offices. I remember having a chance to speak to Tom Zutat, John Kolodner at Geffen and McGhee himself. Kolodner actually got me a sit down with a VP at Atlantic, nothing came of that. I actually had a sit down with Irving Azoff, he liked the material but told me to get a different singer. He put me in touch with a bass player and a drummer and told us to find a singer and come back to him. We couldn't find anyone. I remember first hearing Skid Row and thinking, "that's the guy I was looking for...shit. :(" There were a lot of bands in LA at that time, lots of A&R people around, so I'm sure you never heard of us. I will say that I could play, had a really good tone, and got some attention because of my chops. Check out my TH-cam channel for a few vids and so you can hear my tone...to see if I'm full of sh*t or not about my playing :). I'll tell you a great story - around that same 1987 time frame, somehow I ended up having a convo with Sharon Osbourne, it was right after Jake parted ways with Ozzy. I told her I was like Randy - taught, knew theory, helped my singer develop melodies, etc. She gave me her business card and told me to put together a cassette of about 2 min worth of stuff that would blow her away. I actually recorded the cassette but never sent it to her. If you were playing up there and you were headlining on Fri/Sat, you ran into a lot of people.
@@YoBroMan Classic - we have a lot in common in 1984 I met Sharon - they had just hired Randy Castillo RIP - I said I am the drummer set up an audition , she said no Randy was it. it's funny I also played in multiple bands in LA and I often say the same thing you said "you wouldn't know them" so many bands back then and the pay to play aspect - I work with a singer DR STARR - when I joined him I wanted to be band not a side man i sold him on calling it Star World (humor his ego) we ahve worked on a handful of things - had major support for awhile 5k a month + prediem did not have to work from 1989 to 1991 - you sill play ? wanna Jam ? always need a fukin singer...
@@Rev7Seven7 I don't play anymore, unfortunately. :) I still hang around with a few friends who play live, it always gives me the itch but I'm out of practice, the fingers don't work anymore because of arthritis, and I don't have the desire like I had when I was younger. Are you sill playing live? I take it you're in the SoCal area? I was just at the Whisky the other night because a friend of mine opened for Pearcy there. Shoot me a PM.
Vicky hosted my band, The Divine Madness many years ago at a club in goth club in LA. She was so gracious and even bought us a fancy dinner, we felt like royalty. I wish I had more time to hang with her and ask her about the GnR days
@@tommydewayneisaacs2739 i got the kindle version, tommy. these biographies/autobiographies are FASCINATING to me. have you read any of deedee ramone's books? friggin incredible, man. WAY better than i ever imagined they would be. he was amazing.
@@Miriboheme He didn't. He tried out but didn't like the Black and Yellow thing. He wanted to wear pink. Michael said in his book that he was never a member of Stryper.
My Dad was Head Executive of a FAMOUS Record Label, retired in mid 2000's... Needless to say I know a lot of these Musicians to this day, even married one. When it came to Vicky, she really got burned by some of those had little TO NO TALENT, she is a sweetheart. As for Poison, Bret knew who I was, and would non-stop try to get me to go out with him, TRUE STORY. Finally I did go on a date, he is a straight up Narcissist Prick. After dinner we went to the beach, and when I turned him down he LOST IT! NOBODY turns me down! Well, other things were said, and being young, but SMART, I told my Dad. Doc had to do damage control, and I will leave it at that.🎸💯
For those interested the version of Poison with Matt Smith playing guitar is on TH-cam. It's a live recording of a show. Video title: "Poison (here as Paris) Live at Old Forge, PA 1984" /watch?v=MPreMSIuEB8&ab_channel=D.DeVille
@@bakstabbath i found the video. "Cringe" is an understatement. It made me sick. Wasn't just the legwarmers ...the song and stage performance was horrific
True Story - It IS NOT a Wig. It is his hair - all of it, I used to laugh because he was so self conscious thinking he was receding his hair line, it was not, I never understood why he started with the bandana , hats etc. that was/is his hair.
@@Rev7Seven7 maybe WAS, but definitely not "is." He shaved it for a movie (Letter from Death Row) and ever since it has clearly been wigs and bandanas. Clearly.
@@smitchix1 ok even if you are correct - he would be in good company - Captain Kirk William Shatner - Paul Stanley - Gene Simmons - Don Dokken off the top of my head PUN intended. - show biz right.
@@TheJpep2424 I ain't defending - I am observing - It is not a wig as you suggest, Chicks dig him, wig or no wig - it takes all kinds to fill the freeway - maybe you look ridiculous ? say some Hell's Angel with long hair and bandana - call him ridiculous to his face.
@@todddavis4274 Motley Crue Theater of Pain - you see Vince in Pink fishnet trying to capitalize on the Poison wave. like so many others , look at the GnR welcome to the Jungle AXL hair all sprayed out with Aqua net.. that was the trend - we got more pussy in one week than most guys in a lifetime. mock all you like.
Gut Wrenching - She did Cry..., who wouldn't? - she did however, land a Job as A&R at Geffen, $80k a year plus expenses - could have been worse. All the same you are correct.
@@rpb-sq5ci Absolutely. Not to mention the Clout... My Opinion is Vicky took them all; Poison, Guns and Roses and Motley Crue as far as She could, at the next level, they required next level to achieve the collective Status they achieved. Much of it was simply perception (woman in a mans world) - The Likes of Peter Grant, Doc Mcgee, Shep Gordon, and Howard Kaufman command a certain respect. Vicky was never going to go the distance from day one. I am not saying anything disparaging.
All the guys beatchin bout poison, shit id b rocking to megadeth, Metallica, iron maiden, testament, Pantera, wasp but when poison hit the channel I didn't turn it off. These guys hit a nerve at the right time.
They were a band to go see if you actually wanted girls to be there. Most all of those hard bands i loved, it was all dudes in the crowd. At least with bands like that you knew there'd be chicks there.
I remember when they finally hit the mainstream.. they were loved by teenage girls and most us guys hated them.. they were to femme. We still listened to Zeppelin , Metallica and Sabbath..
Drummer I played with was in the opening band the night Poison got their record deal. Band was called Street Legal but not sure on the spelling of Legal.
Bret became singer not for any vocal ability, but because he owned a PA system , - Likewise C.C. got the gig not because he could play guitar, but because his Family owned a Print shop. - I am confident we came back later and pasted ours over yours.
@@ricka5959 - Yes, you did. for sure - flyers were a regiment - I got a good laugh watching the movie "Rock Star" with Mark Wahlberg - the scene when the 2 bands are fighting over flyering the cars in the parking lot... it was like that. on every light pole in Hollywood we had a bucket of paste over one shoulder and a sack of flyers over the other - every light pole in Hollywood - no one out flyered Poison.
Omg I THINK I met her. We sold Rikki a vehicle for his wife and we had to go to their managements office to get the contracts signed and I think she was the one who signed them
@@Rev7Seven7 it's not hate, it's indifference. Who tf would be impressed with this "band" playing their shitty hits from 35 years ago. I guess just you.
Maybe because I don’t play an instrument and can’t sing a note, but when I hear people say certain musicians suck, I have to ask why they say it. Are you musically trained to pick up mistakes or is it that you just don’t like the songs. I don’t care for Queensryche or Nirvana, but I wouldn’t say they suck as musicians. Poison is just a simple good time rock and roll band. If you prefer a more sophisticated sound, fine. But that doesn’t tell me why you’d say they suck as musicians. Granted, I was never a fan of the girlish glam look, but I think Poison sounds pretty good. I just want to know “why” people say they’re not good musicians.
yeah, I agree with you up to a point. CC Deville was a great guitar showman ...the classic guitar god. I liked Bret's singing voice when he was younger. But as he got older his voice lost that fire. His voice sounds thin and tinny to me. I think people say they're not the best musicians because their songs are bubble gummy. IMO they have some songs that showcases that they are great musicians. But most of their songs are bubble gummy. Sort of like if you removed the adult themes from the lyrics the music would've appealed to 12 year old little girls. By and large I think people don't like them because they're jealous of all the attention they got from the ladies.
Great Comment - Imagine if it was a race to see how fast one could get to the end of a song. that is just stupid. or how many notes one can play inside of on bar. music is all about the dance, the being in the moment, in the here and now - maybe the only time we really experience the present. I agree with you; if it feels/sounds good or it does not. If it resonates it resonates - like food we all have preference. or clothes ... people who say "suck" whatever, who gives a flying fuk what they think - ego? arrogance? joking? venting? who knows why ? Stay Gold Paul Harper
Everyone now says NICKELBACK suck. It's the same thing as POISON. Hate for bands that shamelessly churn out hits. It's funny how people who hate bubblegum hold the early 60's of the Beatles and the Monkeys etc in high esteem. That was bubblegum as well. Its onto like tapping your shoes while doing something else, music doesn't have to be "deep art.
They weave around simple chord progressions with stupid lyrics and the lead guitar player's solo strategy can be nailed down by an acute ear. Also, they are selling an image and not music so their impact is lost to history. Think about it, outside of talk dirty to me and every rose has it's thorn, you probably can't name a song or hum a melody of their stuff; and only one of those songs is any good and it sucks by default because it was a power ballad.
For those that wonder if Matt Smith just faded off into musical obscurity….kind of. I did see him play years ago (early 2000’s) in a blues based band in Harrisburg PA called the Syn D Cats. They were a fairly popular local band. He was not an original member of the band, just did some time as their guitar player. That is pretty much the only thing I’ve ever seen/heard he did musically. Must be a great dude…..I think even Slash wrote about him in one of his books saying how cool he was.
@Konservative Kirby XI I saw Stryper in 1984, and a few other times, and they were really good. As I grew older though I couldn't stomach the bibles and the high pitch stuff. Michael Sweet is a great guy though!
@@luciferdzhugashvili I'd say 10 top 40 singles with 6 in the top 10 and over 15 million albums sold qualifies as a ton of hits. It's more than 99% of the bands in existence, past and present.
Her book IS an interesting read, but she is VERY good at playing the victim. She has/had a bad habit of throwing herself at males she worked with, they'd turn her down, and she get back at them by NOT doing her job. Besides being pushy, and self-centered, she was so coked up, NO one wanted to work with her. Her bad habit continued and got worst thru and after her time in the limelight. The recording industry repeatedly tried to help her out with offering her job, which she lost. Too bad she could keep her shit together and her hands to herself, she could have been a powerhouse manager.
I think the "males she worked with" felt a certain obligation and did in fact give it to her, best they could... She had serious weight issues that made her undesirable (sadly for her) especially when Playboy centerfold material was constantly available at every turn in Hollywood. I did feel she leveraged her "authority" - and hey why not? who could blame her?
I can see why they are annoyed with her, i mean just from this short interview she is on that bass players ass for "cooking pasta with sauce from a glass jar"?? Wgaf?
I mean dude, I know the important things in life to remember 30 plus years later..such as using pasta sauce from glass jars.. its really a thing. Because shit, i have the whole fucking day to make my own sauce, i fucking hand pick vine ripe tomatoes, i go to the garden and select choice herbs. It only takes me 12 hours. I get so pissed at others choosing glass pasta sauce i talk shit about it for decades😂! Bro you redeemed yourself with unsweetened Kool Aid though...
For many years hard rock & metal were very loved and appreciated by the "kids" across the world. Van Halen, Priest, Maiden, AC/DC, Rainbow, Ozzy--i could go on but my point is, there came a time, when MTV, ushered in a new era of band that the world came to CORRECTLY know as "hair bands". From an artistically LITERATE perspective, these bands drove millions of people away from rock into genres like alternative, techno, emo... These groups are directly responsible for KILLING the "industry" because, to literate fans, they were a blatant parody of what rock actually was. It was embarrassing to witness groups who so OBVIOUSLY wished they were Van Halen, cop to writing, singing, and playing such pandering "chicky" metal. Rock historians will tell you this was the beginning of the end of the first rock renaissance, as people believed rock had nothing left to offer if groups like Poison, Motley Crue, White Lion, Warrant, Cinderella, Vixen, Trixter, and too many others to name were the best bands to choose from. This also gave industrial space for the introduction of hip hop. All these groups eventually imploded, while the ACTUAL rock bands like Priest and Maiden and Van Halen survived and prospered for many years. Hair bands were a deception and an insult to the legitimacy of real rock, and real rockers. They were posers.
I'm in LA rn and if u go to all the old rock spots it's alot of rap gang shit now and social media. Cruise down melrose and it's black gangster dudes posing for selfies w their cars.
I had an old school friend whose brain worked like that, too. He would hear sentences in his own unique way. Discombobulated was one of his favorite words.....quite fitting, right? Cool to know he wasn't the only one. Thanks for listening.
She sounds and seems to be a very focused businesswoman, but Bret was so young at that time I think he was pissing off all the time and arguing about Guns and roses and motley crue why they were signed and not poison, and asking for more money! I bet that..that's why this lady left!!
Poison was signed and released long before Guns n Roses. Vicky was instrumental... However, she was difficult to respect (woman in a mans world 80's) Both the Crue and Guns dropped her immediately. She got jammed up/out of the payday on all of them.
@@Rev7Seven7 Hey, what about that lady tour manager from Columbia or somewhere in South America that Guns 'N Roses hired to get their South American tour back on track. Her name was Ingrid Gephardt. I'm not sure about the last name. I met her in Tucson AZ 15 years ago or so. She was very down to earth ....very fun. I only knew her briefly. You know her? She also did south american tours for Iron Maiden, Rolling Stones, U-2, and a few other bands she mentioned to me. She was very fond of Guns "N Roses and Iron Maiden. She spoke of them like talking about close family.
@@ThisUnderWorldOfDarkness not familiar with her. she sound like a promoter having all those bands on her roster ? Underdog check out GHOST - GHOST Rocks!! Year Zero
@@Rev7Seven7 yeah, I'm familiar with GHOST. They have some great music. Back to Ingrid. What was going on in the late 1980's, early 1990's, the go-to company that booked tours for American, British and European tours pretty much didn't know about all of the venues, music halls and arenas that could accommodate bands as big as GnR. So South Americans were getting screwed out of shows and the bands were getting screwed out of reaching new fans in South America. GnR found out about Ingrid being from South America and knowing where all teh venues were. After she successfully booked a very successful tour in South America for GnR, and GnR publicly praised her, other arena bands started hiring Ingrid to do their south american tours. The original company booking the south american tours for GnR fuched up everything so bad GnR had to cancel plans for a tour, or some shit. It was pretty bad. I don't remember all the details. All I remember is the original tour company was so bad that their tours were nightmares. I believe part of the problem is that original touring company would book shows in very, very bad parts of South America that were not really safe for the bands, or anyone else to travel into. Ingrid knew all the great places to book shows that wouldn't get the band kidnapped and held for random. It might sound funny now, but back then it was a real issue.
No the Joke is on you, they were fun and entertaining to a multitude. This is why they make chocolate and vanilla. - as Bobby Dall said: He never set his goal to be a musician. His goal was to become a Rock Star and that is exactly what he did.
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide - I am proud to say I have a special thanks credit on Look what the cat dragged in.- I live with them for 2 years...and toured - I admit I do I love them. love affair began 1981-2022 and still somewhat relevant - amazing
Bobby once said: He never set out to be a musician, he set out to be a Rock Star. And that is what he became. - I played in a band with Bobby before Poison. even then in 1982 He could play Led Zeppelin, Rush, Priest, Maiden... all the staples.
Helping bring Poison records into the world is an absolutely unforgivable offense. Even the blood of Stryper's messiah can't wash that sin clean. Sorry, Vicky.
Poison was awful and I didn't even find them good looking! Bret calling this beautiful woman or any woman the " C" word tells you just what type of trash he had been. Cracked me up with the Bret Rock of love show and the girl yells on her way out screw you and your " WIG" . LOL- hahahaha - I nearly peed my pants laughing. The only thing he gained out of that show was some broad claiming to be his bodyguard . I can't remember her name she went around beating the little girls. I kept waiting for one to finally kick her assets. LOL- hahaha 😂 Karma hasn't finished with him . He has a daughter how would he like someone calling her that "C" word ? I love your show keep em coming ...Peace ✌😊🤘 I hope he'll apologize to you it's never to late to apologize Bret !
Vicky could be a "C" from time to time. She enjoyed liberties... I am confident Bret' "karma" is intact. You seem a little bitter, I wonder why? - He only ever try to give you nothin' but a good time.
A couple of years ago, one of the guys involved in suing Poison over "Talk Dirty to Me," and I think there were other songs, reached out to me for an interview, but then he said I couldn't ask any questions about the Poison lawsuit (which is what I wanted to ask him about). So, I'm assuming Poison quietly settled with him/them but had them sign a non-disclosure agreement. I think there's an interview (that's still up) on my channel with Ric Browde, where he talks about how he had to sue them for songs he helped write...one of them was "Cry Tough," I believe.
Wow.. did she just say that CC DeVille was that band's best musician?..!!?!.??!?.. holy shit!. If they didn't suck already. That's the Worst famous Glam band of that time, she just solidified it. CC deville.. unquestionably the worst guitarist I've ever heard live on stage. God help the 80s.
The 80s have endured, no decade since has. All the young people are listening to 80s rock and metal. You didn't live it, you have no idea. Today blows horribly in comparison. The 80s will endure because cars, girls, and partying never go out of style. 😉
Well, the less talented they are the bigger the asshole. Just insecure narcissists. I've met some absolute legends who were pure class. The whole LA scene were just a bunch of posers.
I drove Matt Smith to the LAX airport the day he left LA - as well the equipment truck for the First Poison Tour with Howie Hubberman as Manager - Super Fun Times! - I remember Vicky well... These Interviews are awesome, they bring back so many fond memories of a Great decade in History.
Hmmmm. Any great stories to tell? If so, maybe an interview?
@@fullinbloom I walked on the moon.....
@@fu2201 Hmmmm. Any great moonwalking stories? If so, maybe an interview?
@@fullinbloom - so many good times with Poison, we always played strip poker with the girls, we deal from the bottom of the deck, have them naked in no time. Bret had girls sign his mattress (no sheets/just a bare mattress on the floor) - so many signatures, no where to sign. It was not uncommon to have sex w/ 4 - 5 girls a day. We were young and viral in competition. - Charmed Life for sure. - One Night in Buffalo NY stands out. - The return to LA stay at the Holiday Inn we had machetes and chopped all the furniture into splinters... ...-
@@ameliaward7429 Not Cringe - all those girls wanted to be there - we were all free - those were very different times - you missed out.
A movie about poison would be so much fun?? Anything goes because it did?? THE story and content is endless?? WOW!!! THAT DECADE PERIOD!!! I WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF A PROJECT LIKE THAT!!!!
The interviews on this channel are fantastic. The interviewer knows what questions to ask, how to ask them, and then how to get out of the way and let the person being interviewed speak. A lot of journalists just like to hear the sound of their own voice and just talk over the people they are interviewing. How this guy doesn’t have a larger platform I don’t know. I wish I worked in radio. I would give this guy a two hour show every day and just turn him loose. I’ve had so much fun listening to this channel over the last year or so that I’ve been a subscriber. Is there a way to support the channel on Patreon? Please keep up the good work.
So True - Full in Bloom Rocks!
Yes I’m addicted. His interviews with Beau Hill are great also.
Hi John. I'm sorry it took me so long to find this comment. It's rather challenging these days as so many comments roll in daily. Thank you for your kind words. No Patreon. I started one a long time ago but, so far, decided against launching it. A run of new interviews is on the horizon, so hang tight. The best way to show your support is to keep on listening. Lastly, if you ever decide to get into radio, please reach out! Thanks again, my friend.
For my 12th birthday , In 1986, my mother took me to see RATT/Poison @ the Cumberland County Civic Center in Portland Maine... What a great time to be alive!
I saw the show in Marquette, MI. Ratt really was not good...poison blew my mind! Lol
That's amazing, I was around 14 when I saw Ratt and Poison on tour together. But this was in like 2007. Unfortunately I was born too late to experience this music in its prime.
My brother and I were at this show as well! Between the Cumberland County Civic Center and Old Orchard Beach we saw most of the biggest metal acts of the 80s at least once.
I knew Vicky back in the late 80's. She really knew the music business and where the industry was headed. I'm not 100% positive but I think it was Vicky who told me and my friend that "rock will be dead in 5 years". Not only did we not believe her we actually laughed.
@RealClear Scripture no, she meant hair metal
rock n roll never stops changing or evolving but will never die especially when every kind of music or songs that move you, are called Rock n roll hence the r and r "hall of fame?"
@@kenyoung9284, that is not the definition. The "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" is no longer exclusively about rock and roll. It should be called the Pop Music Hall of Fame.
Agreed I think it was nice when Dolly Parton refused to accept an invite or induction to the Rock n Roll of Fame, she said she’s not Rock N Roll plain and simple and people still complained weird culture these days, just don’t see the full picture
Why did she think that? I mean, she was obviously 100% correct, but I wonder how she had that insight.
just bought vicky's book. can't wait to read it!!!
Great stuff, thanks! Can’t wait to hear more stories from her!
As a musician I am so happy to not be famous and not deal with some of the absolute trash egotistical scum I've met in the business.
You may have dodged a bullet. Likewise, it is very possible you are still alive as a result of that simple fact. So many self destruct. I recall talking to C.C. Deville (Bruce J.) one night at the Rainbow on Sunset in 2002 or 3, and he was clearly down he confided in me, he was "not sure why people befriend him, what was their "true"motive?/as a result of his fame..." I really felt for him. - I wanted to be famous when I was younger, (was not willing to sacrifice enough apparently.) And Like you, I look back thinking I am way better off. I enjoy my Privacy, going on a vacation or whatever and be anonymous. Priceless.
@@Rev7Seven7 absolutely. I appreciate your reply and understanding of what it is like to be a musician or any of those famous fucked up lifestyles. Amber Heard shit on Jonny Depps bed. Lmaooo not to say I havent had that happen once or 5 times with other substances, still hit home. So happy to be able to write and record and perform without some evil person try and get touchy. I truly one million percent absolutely LOVE and appreciate the few fans I have but like you said so thankful to be in the grey. If you ever need some new original music were on the R Nation. Peace.
I want hear more about her and Styrper!
3.26.22 - He just post a new one, seemingly just for you - Full in Bloom Rocks!
I was playing the Los Angeles clubs from 86-89 and I actually went to Vicky's apartment and talked to her about managing my band in mid 1987. GnR had already signed to Geffen and they had hired a larger management company, but Vicky had been hired at Geffen in the A&R department and she was looking for other bands to manage. I sat on her couch and I can clearly remember her and her boyfriend shuffling thru VHS tapes and showing me bands and talking to me about how important the image and show were to getting a deal. I had sent her some demos prior to our meeting and I brought more songs that evening and played them for her. She liked some of the material, especially the power ballads, but wasn't big on our "jeans, tshirts and boots" image because bands like Poison and Faster Pussycat were very androgynous, which is what she was looking for at that time. Seemed like a nice lady, nothing ever came of our meeting.
Do you recall her boyfriends name? does Jerry ring a bell? I know my one Guitarist Jerry lived with her not sure what year, she was A&R with Geffen at that time... Funny Story I play Drums, I get a call to audition for "Hollywood Rose" - I go over and I see these five guys all strung out and I say fuck this and split, never even play, I had just left a band where the singer had real Heroin issue, I think I am not subjecting myself to any BS. Turns out later LA Guns breaks up and Hollywood Rose split up and half join half to become GUNS N ROSES - I wonder if was a blessing or a curse i did not pursue that gig. - What was your Band? - I played there same time like you ...84 - 97 on and off. I Jammed with Alice Cooper in 1989
@@Rev7Seven7 I don't remember her BFs name. I went there with my singer and when we left, I remember talking about what a dork the BF was. LoL! During the mid to late 80s, that little area on Sunset had Geffen, Atlantic and McGhee's offices. I remember having a chance to speak to Tom Zutat, John Kolodner at Geffen and McGhee himself. Kolodner actually got me a sit down with a VP at Atlantic, nothing came of that. I actually had a sit down with Irving Azoff, he liked the material but told me to get a different singer. He put me in touch with a bass player and a drummer and told us to find a singer and come back to him. We couldn't find anyone. I remember first hearing Skid Row and thinking, "that's the guy I was looking for...shit. :(" There were a lot of bands in LA at that time, lots of A&R people around, so I'm sure you never heard of us. I will say that I could play, had a really good tone, and got some attention because of my chops. Check out my TH-cam channel for a few vids and so you can hear my tone...to see if I'm full of sh*t or not about my playing :). I'll tell you a great story - around that same 1987 time frame, somehow I ended up having a convo with Sharon Osbourne, it was right after Jake parted ways with Ozzy. I told her I was like Randy - taught, knew theory, helped my singer develop melodies, etc. She gave me her business card and told me to put together a cassette of about 2 min worth of stuff that would blow her away. I actually recorded the cassette but never sent it to her. If you were playing up there and you were headlining on Fri/Sat, you ran into a lot of people.
@@YoBroMan Classic - we have a lot in common in 1984 I met Sharon - they had just hired Randy Castillo RIP - I said I am the drummer set up an audition , she said no Randy was it. it's funny I also played in multiple bands in LA and I often say the same thing you said "you wouldn't know them" so many bands back then and the pay to play aspect - I work with a singer DR STARR - when I joined him I wanted to be band not a side man i sold him on calling it Star World (humor his ego) we ahve worked on a handful of things - had major support for awhile 5k a month + prediem did not have to work from 1989 to 1991 - you sill play ? wanna Jam ? always need a fukin singer...
@@Rev7Seven7 I don't play anymore, unfortunately. :) I still hang around with a few friends who play live, it always gives me the itch but I'm out of practice, the fingers don't work anymore because of arthritis, and I don't have the desire like I had when I was younger. Are you sill playing live? I take it you're in the SoCal area? I was just at the Whisky the other night because a friend of mine opened for Pearcy there. Shoot me a PM.
Good to know the real origins as to why GnR were doomed to fail from the beginning.
Vicky is always a great interview. Check out her videos with Dazed with Jordan the Lion as they walk the Strip.
Vicky hosted my band, The Divine Madness many years ago at a club in goth club in LA. She was so gracious and even bought us a fancy dinner, we felt like royalty. I wish I had more time to hang with her and ask her about the GnR days
Live to hear stories from Vicky! I wish she done more interviews.
i just bought her book "appetite for dysfunction" on amazon. can't wait!
@@Miriboheme Awesome!! You'll love it...did u get the autographed copy of itm
@@tommydewayneisaacs2739 i got the kindle version, tommy. these biographies/autobiographies are FASCINATING to me. have you read any of deedee ramone's books? friggin incredible, man. WAY better than i ever imagined they would be. he was amazing.
Miss the 80s vibe people were kewl back then man we had some good times
Never knew Poison got onto Enigma due to a Stryper connection. CC played w/ Stryper very briefly before Oz joined and the name changed.
i didn't know cc played with them!!!
I thought Ron Perfect was the Rox Regime guitarist. Maybe they went through a few
@@Miriboheme He didn't. He tried out but didn't like the Black and Yellow thing. He wanted to wear pink. Michael said in his book that he was never a member of Stryper.
CC never played with Stryper, he tried out for them, but never was in the band. Just as Slash auditioned for Poison, but they chose CC instead.
@@joeurbauer104 CC was with them for 1 month from what I understand.
My Dad was Head Executive of a FAMOUS Record Label, retired in mid 2000's... Needless to say I know a lot of these Musicians to this day, even married one. When it came to Vicky, she really got burned by some of those had little TO NO TALENT, she is a sweetheart. As for Poison, Bret knew who I was, and would non-stop try to get me to go out with him, TRUE STORY. Finally I did go on a date, he is a straight up Narcissist Prick. After dinner we went to the beach, and when I turned him down he LOST IT! NOBODY turns me down! Well, other things were said, and being young, but SMART, I told my Dad. Doc had to do damage control, and I will leave it at that.🎸💯
LOL, cool story. It's refreshing to hear when someone puts these egomaniacs in their place
love this, cindy!!! good for you!
I didn’t know Doc McGee managed Poison too. Where did he find the time?
Rock of Love 😛 NOT.
I saw them multiple times at the Troubador before they were signed. They were fun but weren’t very good. Very little talent there
For those interested the version of Poison with Matt Smith playing guitar is on TH-cam. It's a live recording of a show. Video title: "Poison (here as Paris) Live at Old Forge, PA 1984"
/watch?v=MPreMSIuEB8&ab_channel=D.DeVille
They also made a pretty cringe music video for "Rock Like a Rocker" as Poison from around 84. Just a warning: They're wearing leg warmers lol
@@bakstabbath i found the video. "Cringe" is an understatement. It made me sick. Wasn't just the legwarmers ...the song and stage performance was horrific
Another fantastic interview. Best in the business.
Wow, thank you!
She started the conversation with "I was living in Malibu at the time." So i dont think she was doing too bad financially.
Yeah but was it her house man? Or was it someone she new house and she was living there
I’ll bet that Bret’s wig has lots of stories. That thing has been through a lot.
True Story - It IS NOT a Wig. It is his hair - all of it, I used to laugh because he was so self conscious thinking he was receding his hair line, it was not, I never understood why he started with the bandana , hats etc. that was/is his hair.
@@Rev7Seven7 maybe WAS, but definitely not "is." He shaved it for a movie (Letter from Death Row) and ever since it has clearly been wigs and bandanas. Clearly.
@@smitchix1 ok even if you are correct - he would be in good company - Captain Kirk William Shatner - Paul Stanley - Gene Simmons - Don Dokken off the top of my head PUN intended. - show biz right.
@@Rev7Seven7 Oh I totally agree. Gene's wig is a total travesty and has been for decades. But that's show biz.
@@TheJpep2424 I ain't defending - I am observing - It is not a wig as you suggest, Chicks dig him, wig or no wig - it takes all kinds to fill the freeway - maybe you look ridiculous ? say some Hell's Angel with long hair and bandana - call him ridiculous to his face.
People would be surprised at how many bands had older men and outside help in studio to help them play better for the recordings.
Glad Rush is the upper echelon of musicianship, obviously.
Any more clips or longer interview? I'm curious what the deal was with Stryper.
Same! I wanna hear more Stryper stuff
Same!! 1984 Enigma deal...Hurricane,Poison Stryper all started with that small label and then changed to the big bosses!!
Me, too. What happened?
Since she eludes to it and he doesn't ask more about that, she must have discussed it earlier. Hope he released that portion soon.
Yes, I'll post it soon.
Describing poison as GIRLIE is spot on! Perfect!!!
Thomas Babcock, you said it brother. The part that neutered hard rock.
They got (had) more hair than most girls!
@@todddavis4274 Motley Crue Theater of Pain - you see Vince in Pink fishnet trying to capitalize on the Poison wave. like so many others , look at the GnR welcome to the Jungle AXL hair all sprayed out with Aqua net.. that was the trend - we got more pussy in one week than most guys in a lifetime. mock all you like.
@@todddavis4274 Oh so that was you being led around backstage with your finger in Rob Halford's Belt Loop.
@@Rev7Seven7 Huh? Led around? I dont know who you are or what you represent and I dont know what you're talking about.
It had to suck to get fired by so many bands as soon as they got their break. In Poison's case I guess they couldn't even wait that long.
Gut Wrenching - She did Cry..., who wouldn't? - she did however, land a Job as A&R at Geffen, $80k a year plus expenses - could have been worse. All the same you are correct.
@@Rev7Seven7 pretty big money back then too
@@rpb-sq5ci Absolutely. Not to mention the Clout... My Opinion is Vicky took them all; Poison, Guns and Roses and Motley Crue as far as She could, at the next level, they required next level to achieve the collective Status they achieved. Much of it was simply perception (woman in a mans world) - The Likes of Peter Grant, Doc Mcgee, Shep Gordon, and Howard Kaufman command a certain respect. Vicky was never going to go the distance from day one. I am not saying anything disparaging.
@@Rev7Seven7 Woman in a man's world; don't tell that to Sharon Osbourne especially in the 80's
All the guys beatchin bout poison, shit id b rocking to megadeth, Metallica, iron maiden, testament, Pantera, wasp but when poison hit the channel I didn't turn it off. These guys hit a nerve at the right time.
They were a band to go see if you actually wanted girls to be there. Most all of those hard bands i loved, it was all dudes in the crowd. At least with bands like that you knew there'd be chicks there.
Poison!🎉🎊🍾😘🎸
I remember when they finally hit the mainstream.. they were loved by teenage girls and most us guys hated them.. they were to femme. We still listened to Zeppelin , Metallica and Sabbath..
What’s the Stryper deal she alluded to? I never heard of issues with them.
80's like no Other!
"Like No Other!" :)
Drummer I played with was in the opening band the night Poison got their record deal. Band was called Street Legal but not sure on the spelling of Legal.
Legal is spelled legal.
Did you have two woman in the?
@@anthonymusto3537 The bands singer had a last name of Legal but it was not spelled the same way who it was pronocuned the same way.
@@georgegouldman6176 What?
@@SanitysVoid I new two girls that was in a band called Street Legal.
Vicky is awesome!!
Poison was great.
Poison sucked every step of the way.
"It's not about the music, it's about the show." Says it all. They never did much for me
but I always really enjoyed C.C.'s guitar work though!
I just went to Amazon and it’s only available in paperback….Do you know if this book is available in hardcover
I don't think so, but not 100%. The one I got was paperback.
@@fullinbloom I see them on eBay all the time. - she was signing them. I recall seeing in my Facebook stream , on her own site?
No just paperback
It’s also available in E-Book format.
We would put Flyers Up With Each Other!! Great Times
Bret became singer not for any vocal ability, but because he owned a PA system , - Likewise C.C. got the gig not because he could play guitar, but because his Family owned a Print shop. - I am confident we came back later and pasted ours over yours.
I saw Poison putting flyers on cars in the Forum parking lot before a Van Halen concert. It was the 5150 tour.
@@ricka5959 - Yes, you did. for sure - flyers were a regiment - I got a good laugh watching the movie "Rock Star" with Mark Wahlberg - the scene when the 2 bands are fighting over flyering the cars in the parking lot... it was like that. on every light pole in Hollywood we had a bucket of paste over one shoulder and a sack of flyers over the other - every light pole in Hollywood - no one out flyered Poison.
Omg I THINK I met her. We sold Rikki a vehicle for his wife and we had to go to their managements office to get the contracts signed and I think she was the one who signed them
Rikki had no wife during Vicky's tenure
Thank u
Hey Vicky....I'm from Fort Wayne... smiles....😁😁
RIP Joey C. Jones
I think I was at the country club show when they were chanting that😂
I hear the Country Club was pretty much the top venue, 1000 capacity and so many big names passed through there.
Oh man... now I want to know what happened with Stryper??? Guess I will have to get the book. 😆
where's the full interview?
I went to high school with Vicky in Indiana.
"they got better with time".....ehhhhh idk about that one lol
Yeah, no shit. I would say progressively worse.
Didnt she say Tom instead of time? She later mentions a Tom.
They did
They only need to play those 12 hits over and over for 30+ years - (haters make me laugh.)
@@Rev7Seven7 it's not hate, it's indifference. Who tf would be impressed with this "band" playing their shitty hits from 35 years ago. I guess just you.
Straight rock and roll !!
Maybe because I don’t play an instrument and can’t sing a note, but when I hear people say certain musicians suck, I have to ask why they say it. Are you musically trained to pick up mistakes or is it that you just don’t like the songs. I don’t care for Queensryche or Nirvana, but I wouldn’t say they suck as musicians. Poison is just a simple good time rock and roll band. If you prefer a more sophisticated sound, fine. But that doesn’t tell me why you’d say they suck as musicians. Granted, I was never a fan of the girlish glam look, but I think Poison sounds pretty good. I just want to know “why” people say they’re not good musicians.
yeah, I agree with you up to a point. CC Deville was a great guitar showman ...the classic guitar god. I liked Bret's singing voice when he was younger. But as he got older his voice lost that fire. His voice sounds thin and tinny to me. I think people say they're not the best musicians because their songs are bubble gummy.
IMO they have some songs that showcases that they are great musicians.
But most of their songs are bubble gummy. Sort of like if you removed the adult themes from the lyrics the music would've appealed to 12 year old little girls.
By and large I think people don't like them because they're jealous of all the attention they got from the ladies.
Great Comment - Imagine if it was a race to see how fast one could get to the end of a song. that is just stupid. or how many notes one can play inside of on bar. music is all about the dance, the being in the moment, in the here and now - maybe the only time we really experience the present. I agree with you; if it feels/sounds good or it does not. If it resonates it resonates - like food we all have preference. or clothes ... people who say "suck" whatever, who gives a flying fuk what they think - ego? arrogance? joking? venting? who knows why ? Stay Gold Paul Harper
Everyone now says NICKELBACK suck. It's the same thing as POISON. Hate for bands that shamelessly churn out hits. It's funny how people who hate bubblegum hold the early 60's of the Beatles and the Monkeys etc in high esteem. That was bubblegum as well.
Its onto like tapping your shoes while doing something else, music doesn't have to be "deep art.
They weave around simple chord progressions with stupid lyrics and the lead guitar player's solo strategy can be nailed down by an acute ear. Also, they are selling an image and not music so their impact is lost to history. Think about it, outside of talk dirty to me and every rose has it's thorn, you probably can't name a song or hum a melody of their stuff; and only one of those songs is any good and it sucks by default because it was a power ballad.
Look what the cat dragged in. Life go's on. Tell me why.
They had a ton of great tunes. I can hum em all day long lol.
What is the song of the intro?
There's no intro on this clip. But it usually is a clip taken from a song called "The Parting" by FOOL OF FATE.
@@fullinbloom Thanks mate
For those that wonder if Matt Smith just faded off into musical obscurity….kind of. I did see him play years ago (early 2000’s) in a blues based band in Harrisburg PA called the Syn D Cats. They were a fairly popular local band. He was not an original member of the band, just did some time as their guitar player. That is pretty much the only thing I’ve ever seen/heard he did musically. Must be a great dude…..I think even Slash wrote about him in one of his books saying how cool he was.
I never knew they were from Harrisburg pa iam from Philadelphia
We saw KISS w/Judas Priest and RUSH w/Blondie among many other treks to the SPECTRUM in Philly in around 1979...
Well they never knew (and still dont) that you are from there either.
Betcha she wishes she stuck with Stryper.
@Konservative Kirby XI I saw Stryper in 1984, and a few other times, and they were really good. As I grew older though I couldn't stomach the bibles and the high pitch stuff. Michael Sweet is a great guy though!
Nice 🤘🏼
Which one in the thumbnail is Brett and which one is Vicki?????
Clearly Bret is the one with the duck lips😭
I bet Poison was a fun group to hang around with in the late 80s.
Being from Malibu! Music For The Nation! Was the label Tom!
What the hell is glass sauce?
She meant just straight up from the glass jar spaghetti sauce.
Throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if it sticks is a time-tested tool for proper s'ghetti cookin'!
Stryper hahahaha 🤣😂😂🤣😂
“They weren’t good musicians or songwriters”
And the sky is still blue.
Hard to say that a band who wrote a ton of hits are bad songwriters
@@rticle15 To be fair, she was basing that on the time she worked with them, she did say that after they got a lot better.
Kinda like MMA, you’re only one hit away from a win.
@@rticle15 “a ton of hits” LOL
@@luciferdzhugashvili I'd say 10 top 40 singles with 6 in the top 10 and over 15 million albums sold qualifies as a ton of hits. It's more than 99% of the bands in existence, past and present.
R.I.P. JOEY C JONES.
Was t a big fan …. But you got to give cred for the the bass/ guitar intro on unskinny bop and as ballads go every rose was was. A 10
100% agree. They have their niche. Got me singing that old commercial for coconut bars, "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't"
RIP Joey C Jones.
Vicki Hamilton you have earned respect in the music industry. It’s no easy feat. Keep it pushing!
I like Poison but Stryper are better musicians.
I like Poison, but my neighbor's sons and their friends are better musicians. LOL
@@todayswordoftheday No matter what you think of their music Stryper can play their instruments well.
@@SouthernSkeptic not to mention Stryper is still around making arguably their best music currently !!!
@@GunnerSG Yep. They were the band everybody made fun of in the 80s and now they're outdoing most if not all their peers.
@@SouthernSkeptic agreed I saw them a couple of yrs ago before the world stood still and Michael sounded even better if that’s possible \\m//
She said they were not great musicians or song writers than why do they sell so many albums
New drinking game...every time she says "stryper" you have to take a shot
She only says "Stryper" twice.
Makes sense, the 80s was the last chance decade..
Joey just passed away
His memorial is June 11 here in Dallas
Nice
Her book IS an interesting read, but she is VERY good at playing the victim. She has/had a bad habit of throwing herself at males she worked with, they'd turn her down, and she get back at them by NOT doing her job. Besides being pushy, and self-centered, she was so coked up, NO one wanted to work with her. Her bad habit continued and got worst thru and after her time in the limelight. The recording industry repeatedly tried to help her out with offering her job, which she lost. Too bad she could keep her shit together and her hands to herself, she could have been a powerhouse manager.
In other words a typical fat groupie. :p
I'll give her this much, at least she didn't make any 30 year old fake assault allegations.
I think the "males she worked with" felt a certain obligation and did in fact give it to her, best they could... She had serious weight issues that made her undesirable (sadly for her) especially when Playboy centerfold material was constantly available at every turn in Hollywood. I did feel she leveraged her "authority" - and hey why not? who could blame her?
I can see why they are annoyed with her, i mean just from this short interview she is on that bass players ass for "cooking pasta with sauce from a glass jar"?? Wgaf?
Plus we washed that pasta down with unsweetened Kool-Aid on account of Bret's Type 1 Diabetes
I mean dude, I know the important things in life to remember 30 plus years later..such as using pasta sauce from glass jars.. its really a thing. Because shit, i have the whole fucking day to make my own sauce, i fucking hand pick vine ripe tomatoes, i go to the garden and select choice herbs. It only takes me 12 hours. I get so pissed at others choosing glass pasta sauce i talk shit about it for decades😂! Bro you redeemed yourself with unsweetened Kool Aid though...
@@hotlanta35 1st Rule of Poison Club: No Sugar in the Kool-Aid. 2nd Rule of Poison Club: No Sugar in the Kool-Aid!
She sounds stable. 0:27
For many years hard rock & metal were very loved and appreciated by the "kids" across the world. Van Halen, Priest, Maiden, AC/DC, Rainbow, Ozzy--i could go on but my point is, there came a time, when MTV, ushered in a new era of band that the world came to CORRECTLY know as "hair bands". From an artistically LITERATE perspective, these bands drove millions of people away from rock into genres like alternative, techno, emo...
These groups are directly responsible for KILLING the "industry" because, to literate fans, they were a blatant parody of what rock actually was. It was embarrassing to witness groups who so OBVIOUSLY wished they were Van Halen, cop to writing, singing, and playing such pandering "chicky" metal. Rock historians will tell you this was the beginning of the end of the first rock renaissance, as people believed rock had nothing left to offer if groups like Poison, Motley Crue, White Lion, Warrant, Cinderella, Vixen, Trixter, and too many others to name were the best bands to choose from. This also gave industrial space for the introduction of hip hop. All these groups eventually imploded, while the ACTUAL rock bands like Priest and Maiden and Van Halen survived and prospered for many years. Hair bands were a deception and an insult to the legitimacy of real rock, and real rockers. They were posers.
I'm in LA rn and if u go to all the old rock spots it's alot of rap gang shit now and social media. Cruise down melrose and it's black gangster dudes posing for selfies w their cars.
Thats all they know ,gangs and drugs
U guys r nuts - Rikki is an awesome drummer
Well, the rest of the world disagrees.
He certainly is sufficient for what Poison does. and a Great Showman. Not everyone can be Neil Peart or Terry Bozzio and that is ok, the spice of life
hes decent, but listen to that first album. his playing is very amature-ish.
Ringo is a better drummer..and he was horrible
Kirby is delusional.
"why did he left"
lol
lol. No one said that.
I hope 😂@@fullinbloom
I had an old school friend whose brain worked like that, too. He would hear sentences in his own unique way. Discombobulated was one of his favorite words.....quite fitting, right? Cool to know he wasn't the only one. Thanks for listening.
@@fullinbloom doesn't usually happen to me and I'm too lazy to go through it again. Maybe later.
Keep up the good stuff! :)
Don't waste your time; it's not worth it. I appreciate you listening. And sincerely, it was good to think of my old school homie again.
She sounds and seems to be a very focused businesswoman, but Bret was so young at that time I think he was pissing off all the time and arguing about Guns and roses and motley crue why they were signed and not poison, and asking for more money! I bet that..that's why this lady left!!
Poison was signed and released long before Guns n Roses. Vicky was instrumental... However, she was difficult to respect (woman in a mans world 80's) Both the Crue and Guns dropped her immediately. She got jammed up/out of the payday on all of them.
@@Rev7Seven7 Hey, what about that lady tour manager from Columbia or somewhere in South America that Guns 'N Roses hired to get their South American tour back on track. Her name was Ingrid Gephardt. I'm not sure about the last name. I met her in Tucson AZ 15 years ago or so. She was very down to earth ....very fun. I only knew her briefly.
You know her?
She also did south american tours for Iron Maiden, Rolling Stones, U-2, and a few other bands she mentioned to me.
She was very fond of Guns "N Roses and Iron Maiden. She spoke of them like talking about close family.
@@ThisUnderWorldOfDarkness not familiar with her. she sound like a promoter having all those bands on her roster ? Underdog check out GHOST - GHOST Rocks!! Year Zero
@@Rev7Seven7 yeah, I'm familiar with GHOST. They have some great music.
Back to Ingrid. What was going on in the late 1980's, early 1990's, the go-to company that booked tours for American, British and European tours pretty much didn't know about all of the venues, music halls and arenas that could accommodate bands as big as GnR.
So South Americans were getting screwed out of shows and the bands were getting screwed out of reaching new fans in South America.
GnR found out about Ingrid being from South America and knowing where all teh venues were. After she successfully booked a very successful tour in South America for GnR, and GnR publicly praised her, other arena bands started hiring Ingrid to do their south american tours.
The original company booking the south american tours for GnR fuched up everything so bad GnR had to cancel plans for a tour, or some shit. It was pretty bad. I don't remember all the details. All I remember is the original tour company was so bad that their tours were nightmares.
I believe part of the problem is that original touring company would book shows in very, very bad parts of South America that were not really safe for the bands, or anyone else to travel into.
Ingrid knew all the great places to book shows that wouldn't get the band kidnapped and held for random. It might sound funny now, but back then it was a real issue.
Poison was a bad joke back in the 80s and nothing has changed...
Yep..I never understood how they got a record deal.. the had absolutely zero talent
A bad joke that has sold 50 million albums. Poison writes great songs that stick in your mind. You are entitled to your opinion.
No the Joke is on you, they were fun and entertaining to a multitude. This is why they make chocolate and vanilla. - as Bobby Dall said: He never set his goal to be a musician. His goal was to become a Rock Star and that is exactly what he did.
@@Rev7Seven7. It's OK to come out of the closet and admit you love Poison. 😉
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide - I am proud to say I have a special thanks credit on Look what the cat dragged in.- I live with them for 2 years...and toured - I admit I do I love them. love affair began 1981-2022 and still somewhat relevant - amazing
Never gave 2 craps about poison. Way many better bands back then.
Geez, nothing like slamming real musicians in lieu of the jokes of poison. And clowns is the right term
Joey just passed away.
Really!?
Who?
@@theophany1770 Joey C. Jones from Sweet Savage.
RIP
Has he died? I got a message from Chris Sheridan last week and he told me Joey was close.
Anne… Bancroft?!
And here's to you Mrs. Robinson....
How is CC Deville a good musician?
I think they meant, the best of those other 3 in the band at the time. Which yeah, didn’t say much 😂
SHhhhhhh..Don't tell anyone, but Every rose does Not have it's thorn per Rose of Sharon
Was Bobby Dahl the worst rock bassist ever?? I always thought so. They always turned down his bass on records
Bobby once said: He never set out to be a musician, he set out to be a Rock Star. And that is what he became. - I played in a band with Bobby before Poison. even then in 1982 He could play Led Zeppelin, Rush, Priest, Maiden... all the staples.
I have never liked the music of Poison. I change the station if one of their awful songs is played.
Keep your hand on that dial, you will be changing it for a long time to come. Radio will be playing those tracks long after we are dead and gone.
If they gave out "broke dick" awards to bands Poison certainly would have won!
i thought they were women back in 1986. Glam rock and grunge killed off heavy metal
Helping bring Poison records into the world is an absolutely unforgivable offense. Even the blood of Stryper's messiah can't wash that sin clean. Sorry, Vicky.
Music is not a competition. I wonder, can you direct me; to a link of your greatest hits.?
One day your grandkids will have been dust for decades and no one will remember jesus. And mfers will still be listening to every rose has its thorn
@@ronniejdio9411 Timeless track
Poison are poison 🤣
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Not for nothing, but this chick sounds very negative about everybody she worked with! No wonder they didn't want her negative vibe around
You ever meet a bed hopping obnoxious coke head? They're usually not nice people.
Poison is a pop band, much like ,(holding my Nose), Bon Jovi. It's like sugar, after years of ingesting it, you get diabetes.
trying to score elitist points? lol
Poison was awful and I didn't even find them good looking! Bret calling this beautiful woman or any woman the " C" word tells you just what type of trash he had been. Cracked me up with the Bret Rock of love show and the girl yells on her way out screw you and your " WIG" . LOL- hahahaha - I nearly peed my pants laughing. The only thing he gained out of that show was some broad claiming to be his bodyguard . I can't remember her name she went around beating the little girls. I kept waiting for one to finally kick her assets. LOL- hahaha 😂 Karma hasn't finished with him . He has a daughter how would he like someone calling her that "C" word ? I love your show keep em coming ...Peace ✌😊🤘 I hope he'll apologize to you it's never to late to apologize Bret !
Vicky could be a "C" from time to time. She enjoyed liberties... I am confident Bret' "karma" is intact. You seem a little bitter, I wonder why? - He only ever try to give you nothin' but a good time.
Her name was Heather
Poison stole "Talk Dirty to Me". Wonder if the other songwriter ever got compensated.
A couple of years ago, one of the guys involved in suing Poison over "Talk Dirty to Me," and I think there were other songs, reached out to me for an interview, but then he said I couldn't ask any questions about the Poison lawsuit (which is what I wanted to ask him about). So, I'm assuming Poison quietly settled with him/them but had them sign a non-disclosure agreement. I think there's an interview (that's still up) on my channel with Ric Browde, where he talks about how he had to sue them for songs he helped write...one of them was "Cry Tough," I believe.
Rope tie. Say no more.
Poison = extremely overrated.
what a bueatiful bunch he/shes....lol
That shit was Gay
They looked like Peter Puffers
Or penis perps, worm warblers, dick diddlers, lizard lickers, groin guzzlers, bone beaters, joint jerkers, manmeat munchers, nut nibblers, pud pounders, queefless queens, rod riders,
sack suckers, tool toters, snake snackers, gay garglers, rim riders, pecker packers, bung burglars, poo pirates, gape guys, cock commanders, butt beetches, head hunters, banana bandits, corn connoisseurs, pole polishers, turd tasters, noodle poodles, pubic parasites, crotch crickets, taint ticklers, flaming fems, gonad gorgers, brownhole banditos, etc.........!
Wow.. did she just say that CC DeVille was that band's best musician?..!!?!.??!?.. holy shit!. If they didn't suck already.
That's the Worst famous Glam band of that time, she just solidified it. CC deville.. unquestionably the worst guitarist I've ever heard live on stage. God help the 80s.
clearly you have always been "a little bit envious"
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They went from one of the worst in CC to one of the best in Richie Kotzen.
his solos on cherry pie are tasty tho
The 80s have endured, no decade since has. All the young people are listening to 80s rock and metal. You didn't live it, you have no idea. Today blows horribly in comparison. The 80s will endure because cars, girls, and partying never go out of style. 😉
So Vicki is to blame for destroying heavy metal image. What a weak time and music
Oh boo boo. Did Bret say something to hurt her feelings? Maybe she shouldn't be so sensitive.
These bygone musicians are super lucky the real truth doesn’t come out about their personalities.
Well, the less talented they are the bigger the asshole. Just insecure narcissists. I've met some absolute legends who were pure class. The whole LA scene were just a bunch of posers.