Fairchild Dornier 728: The Plane That Never Flew

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  • The Fairchild Dornier 728 program had ambitions of dominating the regional jet market. With the aging DC-9 as well as low supply from other regional aircraft manufacturers (except for Bombardier CRJ Series) the program showed great potential. If the program had such a promise, why did it fail?
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ความคิดเห็น • 61

  • @Tangeriine
    @Tangeriine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I worked there, the word was that airbus saw it as a dirct competitor for the A319/20 and put pressure on suppliers to not do business with Dornier.

    • @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885
      @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ein politischer Tod. Und ein ehrloses Verhalten ohne Verantwortung für die deutsche Luftfahrt durch die deutsche Regierung.

    • @Rotebuehl1
      @Rotebuehl1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How did Airbus made 'pressure'?
      Do You happen to know?
      Thanks in advance for an answer

    • @devon896
      @devon896 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wouldn't be allowed as that's against competition laws.

    • @NiklasBurna
      @NiklasBurna 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know people who worked there too. As you know both Airbus and Boeing get a lot of support from politics. What these people tell me is what lacked was the political support, Europe didn't want to spread its resources thin by having two OEMs and so they actively made life very hard for Dornier.

  • @AviMP
    @AviMP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Fascinating piece if aviation history. Thanks for this. Too bad the bird never got fly.

  • @krg2977
    @krg2977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Would have sold really well especially after the proposed 400+ for Lufty. A huge opportunity missed - a real shame.

  • @Diesel6401
    @Diesel6401 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I worked on the 328Jet and was excited to hear about this and then 😢.
    430FJ 2:15 I worked that plane.

  • @ChrisJohnson-hk6es
    @ChrisJohnson-hk6es 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This company was way ahead of it's time. I do believe had they survived and gotten this plane out, they would have found success. Especially today. God only knows what they would have done with today's technology.

  • @gareth3152
    @gareth3152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The last shot of the plane on its belly was taken at Templefeld Berlin and is still there today for the public to see.

    • @danielmartinsson899
      @danielmartinsson899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I visited it two years ago. It can be seen here at the end of the video as well. Sadly it's in a rather bad state with a lot of dirt and corrosion going on.

  • @bigtaxrefund
    @bigtaxrefund 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    heart breaking story. the aircraft that never flew

  • @kmankman8519
    @kmankman8519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great content.I don't know if I am seeing this wrong...but I'm actually astonished at how well this modern looking aircraft is.. for a early 2000s aircraft,wow!,reminds me sort of like the Airbus A220 and the previously known Bombardier C series types and the latest Russian and Chinese aircrafts.so sad indeed.Imagine if it had been successful,could of maybe even competed with Boeing and Airbus or be some form of competition.

  • @maccarr9923
    @maccarr9923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    **Chinese company buys stake and carries out structural tests**
    **Comac C919 appears**

  • @luisquintana5753
    @luisquintana5753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This jet can still be a market competitor

  • @solomonflavius24
    @solomonflavius24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sad story after all that great hope of success and 3 were built but none flew that's even sadder

    • @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885
      @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 ปีที่แล้ว

      And a lot of victims like me, having had an employment at DORNIER in 1991. Also irresponsible on the part of the German government.

  • @sfranklin1266
    @sfranklin1266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @marum380
    @marum380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s just soo dazzling mate, it is soo mine imploding that the plane didn’t aero. I’m just doleful. Ruthless embreir,

  • @lanse77lithgow
    @lanse77lithgow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Big!, Huge! mistake caving in to a legacy airline's protectionism.
    How many legacy airlines are gone now? With 6 abreast seating , low cost carriers orders would have been huge ! Then airfreighters would have loved it too!

  • @klaus-peterimmich3538
    @klaus-peterimmich3538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The german banks who financed the 728 programm were forced by airbus to get out. The bankrupecy from dornier was forced by banks. the a318 was in the same market as the do928.

  • @davyfella
    @davyfella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Chinese investment company was a front for an industrial espionage effort to strip whatever they could out of the design and incorporate it into the COMAC designs.

    • @BillyBob-fd5ht
      @BillyBob-fd5ht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bingo, steal their knowledge, and walkaway,

  • @jouniairplanevideos
    @jouniairplanevideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At the time of the CRJ, Fokker was a good selling company with the F100 that has 122 seats. So ther were more aircraft types. KLM used the Embrear after ther Foker fleet. Even those planes aren't much younger (when launched) than the F100 at the begin. A now we have the Sukhoi sister of this. So the Russians took over basicly.

    • @Matt_from_Florida
      @Matt_from_Florida ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sukhoi has been a disaster though. Reliability problems doomed it and now of course, the fact that it's Russian _("Martha, hide the children, it's the Russians!!!")_ means complete death.

  • @devon896
    @devon896 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Basically an A220 before the A220 ever came about

  • @lets_windturbine
    @lets_windturbine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks a bit like the Sukhoi superjet 100

  • @xyzaero
    @xyzaero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 328 Jet has TURBOFAN and not a turbojet.

  • @vladimir7031
    @vladimir7031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This plane are flown every day in Russia)))
    Just look at SSJ-100
    And try to find 10 changes😉😉😉

  • @4evertrue830
    @4evertrue830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those Chinese investors were very silly to have pulled out at the last minute. They lost a wonderful opportunity in technology transfer which they would have gained involving aircraft manufacturing. They would have received so much as partners in the business by signing a contract benefitted both sides; Fairchild needs money, the Chinese needs aircraft technology. Simple.

  • @cimiez1
    @cimiez1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me parece a empresa teve falindo é por isso de não andou.

  • @klaus-peterimmich3538
    @klaus-peterimmich3538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lufthansa got a good deal for 319s to get out of the deal.

  • @muizsp9525
    @muizsp9525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    American SSJ

  • @vladilenkalatschev4915
    @vladilenkalatschev4915 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schade

  • @edwinpaulino6674
    @edwinpaulino6674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boeing 797 Vs Airbus A321XLR 🤔🤔

  • @anonymouse8565
    @anonymouse8565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Sukhoi superjet looks exactly like this, the cockpit section is ditto

    • @user-fw7ht9hh7h
      @user-fw7ht9hh7h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Совпадение? Не думаю. )))

  • @girisworld9954
    @girisworld9954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hii

  • @lapipesmoker3751
    @lapipesmoker3751 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of sad, I think.

  • @antoniolsn2518
    @antoniolsn2518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    А потом продали Сухому?

  • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
    @cluelessbeekeeping1322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's pronounced "Door-neer" Not Dough-nee-ay

    • @nattybumpo7156
      @nattybumpo7156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually he is correct. You pronounce the name like an American, which is to say...wrong.

    • @ceemosp
      @ceemosp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Utter BS. The name Dornier comes from its founder Claude Dornier (of french ancestry) and hence is pronounced french (dɔrnˈje). Even us Germans, who have a tendency to butcher names, would NEVER pronounce it "Door-neer" - actually, I never heard that pronounciation once before.

    • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
      @cluelessbeekeeping1322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ceemosp Go for a tour of their factory and get back with me, bub.

    • @ceemosp
      @ceemosp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cluelessbeekeeping1322 If you meant that it is pronounced Door -Nee-Er, then yes...since that is the slightly "germanized" version of the french pronounciation - but deffo not Door-NEER. Maybe it is a case of misunderstanding. It actually is somewhere "in between" the pure french and the german words. JFYI - I received training on maintenance of ground equipment for the Alpha Jet in 1986 by Dornier, so no need for a factory tour there ;)

    • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
      @cluelessbeekeeping1322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ceemosp At this point you're splitting hairs.

  • @thelastengineer2315
    @thelastengineer2315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Boeing got pissed off with the threat of competition and told the American partner, Fairchild, to drop the project?

    • @muizsp9525
      @muizsp9525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boeing*

    • @thelastengineer2315
      @thelastengineer2315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@muizsp9525 thanks I failed to proof read it before posting 👍

  • @paden57
    @paden57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m sorry but I’m an a American and I don’t enjoy converting the metric system. I know that’s sounds bad but I’m just saying if you’re looking to recruit this market I think would be more successful if you used knots or miles as they are still a standard for aviation, as a pilot all the planes that I fly are mph or kph. Good luck.

    • @rayjennings3637
      @rayjennings3637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sorry, Philip but I think you'll find that the metric system is pretty much the standard around the globe - apart from the USA, Myanmar and liberia. And as the US is only something like 4% of the world's population, I think you'd need to go with the majority. Good company for the US there though! Even in the UK we can use either and being a pilot, I would have thought that you would be able to grasp the metric system with no problems, bearing in mind that kph is metric anyway.

    • @tank-eleven
      @tank-eleven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      don't worry, got you covered, mate
      Here are some freedom units so you people can finally understand:
      the length is 0.136 furlongs and the empty weight is 804.49 firkin

  • @palco22
    @palco22 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That annoying background music ruins this video.

  • @0rgasmdonor
    @0rgasmdonor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    all of you got it wrong, its pronounced don-nair, like donair.