Cammer here. Just to give some updates. We tried tracking down the driving school so we could give them the footage but they don't have any social media at all so no way of getting in contact (there is another using the same name, it is not them). His wife did get in touch but again, no way of messaging her directly on TH-cam and my replies in the comments to her keep getting deleted. Either way, they reported the incident as did I but I haven't heard anything back. Assuming nothing came of it as it happened way back in summer last year.
TH-cam deletes any and all comments which feature telephone numbers and emails. You should add your email address to the bio on your profile and tell the person to contact you that way
Its one of my biggest pet peeves of TH-cam, not that it removes comments but that it practically never tells you when one of your comments were removed and what for. There's a large group of words that if put in a comment will just automatically hide it for other users @@fervent2896
At least you tried. I may possibly have considered sending that to the police myself but it depends on whether you get a clearly readable number plate for the Beemer.
Also, storming towards a vehicle you've just pulled up and stopped. What if the person panics, a floors it, collecting you on the bonnet, as we've seen in a different Ashley clip, worried their getting hijacked or going to be assaulted? Where does that leave the kid, with their dad splayed on the road? It's just playing Russian roulette on the roads, road raging like this.
I have been driving with a 17 year old family member to help get her driving hours up for the logbook. Out of the dozen or so times, on at least half the times, people tailgate and one was even high beaming at her. At all times she was doing the EXACT speed limit. I was shocked at how nasty and impatient people are now. I will be buying dashcams for front and rear, and have found some YT channels that specialise in posting these clips. Hopefully as a sort of ‘name & shame.’ Staggers me how nasty and spiteful so many people are. 😔
Cammer here again, final update (if a little late because I forgot). Driver got taken to court, pleaded guilty to a series of charges which I won't get into but the long and short of it: fines totaling around £200, 9 points on license and community service.
This is good. Fair play to you! Hope everyone is encouraged to get a dashcam. Once i can afford one, I'll go for one of the Viofo cams! :P Economy quite limited. Stay safe everyone. Even from dangerous drivers like this
@@petecurran3995i agree people get a lot of their habits from parents, hopefully when the child has grown up he’ll see this clip and learn from his dads mistake
Cammer here again, I have a new update! (Interesting how it's just come up now haha). I've had a call from the police regarding the incident. The learner did pass her test in the end but doesn't want to provide a statement and bring it all back up. However I am happy to provide a statement which I'll be doing next week. From what I've gathered, the driver of the BMW has also been contacted by the police but I have no more info beyond that. I will try and post another update should anything else pop up. Good news about the learner though and the fact the police are finally doing something about it.
Great news, both for the young lady who passed her test and the total lunatic being investigated, hope he knows how he’s been collared on TH-cam & not only seen the video but also viewed the comments
Thanks for the update. Whether a one off for the BMW or not (and I doubt very much an isolated incident) glad the police had words. Great update about the L driver now passed and hope it does not effect the L driver in the future.
Excellent ! Make sure that when he is convicted , and hopefully gets custody , that the press get the story : if he goes inside and the other prisoners learn he bullied a young female driver , he won't walk straight for some time after he eventually gets back out .
@@ryanwooldridge7546 It likely wasn't unattended, but regardless, acting like this on the road with a kid in car is utter waste of space stuff. I feel sorry for the kid and whatever poor woman fell for him....
concerned for his one year old yet he proceed's to tailgate, overtake stupidly, slam on his breaks AND stop dead center in the middle of a fast moving road to throw a tantrum. Poor kid having a dad like him.
@@knabdank You probably have this too, in Germany we have this thing called idiot test which is a nicer way of saying what it actually is, which is a psychological evaluation for people who probably are not "all there" in the head. To get that you must have been breaking rule after rule and shown you're not trustworthy. If you are as unhinged as this guy you really shouldn't be operating a 2 ton death machine. It's one thing to be a dipshit and brake check someone (which is also not okay), but it's another thing to brake check with your baby in your car, come to a full stop, exit the car, scream at a LEARNER, stomp around the road like you own it while everyone is going like what, 80-100 km/h, then to break the rules yourself. This guy needs a idiot test asap. I hope the dashcam driver sent this to the police.
@@cyclecam6328 Most people's "worsts" still far exceed brake checking on an open A road and screaming at a novice driver. What a weird attempt to minimise this man's behaviour.
@@cyclecam6328 Oh get lost. This is totally unacceptable behavior that put multiple people at risk. The worst part is that he actually thinks he is on the right. If you can't prevent yourself from doing stuff like this you should not be allowed to drive motorized vehicles in traffic.
That child has got no chance. With a dad like that, it will be bred into him to act the same. As a driving instructor myself, these sort of incidents do happen but thankfully, the other 99% of drivers on the road are great so it's very rare.
That poor learner. They did very well to continue their lesson. I would have had to pull over and ask the driving instructor to take over if that had been me when I was learning. Props to the learner and the instructor for keeping calm!
So is mildly inconvenienced by a poor emerge, proceeded to inconvenience himself even more by standing in the middle of the road throwing his toys out the pram over the driving standards and 'endangering' his child, then proceeds to drive like a twunt and endangers his child? I do hope he sees this video and realizes what he looks like.
Maybe the child was the cause of the driver's actions? Imagine being in a car on your own with a one year old having a tantrum, Having tantrums is contagious didn't ya know?
@@clivewilliams3661 I'm not sure if your being sarcastic or not? Bad moods can affect others, but if your 1 year olds tantrum causes you to do what this video shows then thats not good for driving.
@@PedroConejo1939 What he said is bad logic. There are legit people who shouldn't be on the road who get shouted at that they shouldn't be on the road. The act of shouting itself does not preclude the shouter from being a good driver. The act of getting out of one's car on the other hand, like we see in this video, makes it logical to presume that the road rager shouldn't be on the road. The majority of us have shouted (without stopping or exiting the car) at one time or another, be it under our breaths or out an open window.
Not gonna claim i'm more than an average driver, never will be a really good one. But there are many out there that are way worse than me and i'm not stopped by comments like this to cuss them out from the relative privacy of my car. I'll not rage or get out of my car, but i'll let of the steam immediately as i don't want it bottled up. By the way, the merge wasn't even that poorly done and not even worthy of a short moment of 'that was a minor error in judgement, but no harm as it was within safe relative speeds' The white car didn't even have to brake (much) and that is just something you should expect now and then when dealing with people: small errors.
Gonna go with social services as well. He is putting the child in danger with that driving. If he drives like that and gets so wound up by such a small thing then that child needs to be on social services radar. Who knows what he does behind closed doors!
Narcissistic behavior at its finest. Getting triggered in his honor by having to slow down a tiny bit because of a learner driver. I mean, who would have thought that they might possibly make a mistake, right? Then trying to look for sympathy from others by saying, he's got a 1 year old kid in the car, completely oblivious of his own dangerous actions, thinking he is completely in the right. I hope the kid's mother files a divorce soon, this guy will be very bad for the kid's mental health when growing up. All the best to them!
Forget mental health, it's only a matter of time before his driving is a direct and severe harm on that kid's phsycial health! No way he should be in charge of an infant when he acts out like this.
I totally agree with u. My main annoyance is. I drive myself. Is peoples addiction with stopping on main roads for all sorts off reasons. I absolutely hate this. They don't see the danger. Main roads are to keep traffic flowing and going. Not meant for stopping. If you need to stop or get out of your vehicle. You reduce the risk of an accident happening to you if u just find a safe space after turning off the main road. But hey back to this guy in video. He has no care for himself or others by just putting them all in danger by just stopping in middle off the road. Well let me rephrase that, not annoyance. I absolutely hate those drivers who stop on main roads. As I said I drive myself mainly because of the danger I would be putting myself or others in. Even if I'm dropping someone off i always turn off the main road and into a side street. We'll by doing this you are so much safer
Let’s not forget his dangerous manoeuvre off the roundabout forcing his way in to where he wanted to go, he’s been and will be like that for a while until the police or someone who doesn’t give fluck takes him down, we won’t ever know though unfortunately 🤷🏻♂️
What an awesome dude, teaching the learner about road rage so that they are fully prepared when they hit the streets. Wish more people were as considerate as him, sacrificing their family for these important lessons!
One thing you can be sure about with these people OUTRAGED at being slowed for a moment is they will have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to stand and argue and fight. I gave up riding my motorcycle because of this, it's definitely got worse.
Similar happened to myself, I was mildly inconvenienced by a van pulling out of an awkward side road, around a blind corner. I was on my motorcycle and we ended up side by side at the next set of traffic lights. The driver rolled his window down and was quite apologetic, I responded that I was not upset in any way and humor was involved. Thumbs up from both of us, wished each other a pleasant day and continued our journeys feeling better about the world. :)
You have to wonder what these people are like in general if this is how they react to such a minor thing like getting slightly inconvenienced by a learner driver.
It's insane to me that the BMW driver stereotype isn't even an exaggerarion, in fact its far from a stereotype. Every BMW I see on the roads I'm on high alert because 90% of my experience with them has been negative, bullying, narcissistic behaviour and road use
What a lout. The final part is his lane change at the Holdingham roundabout. Unlike some roundabouts, the signage on approach is clear and the lane configuration is good. His unnecessary lane change is worse than the learner driver's emerge in that the learner made an error that, by any reasonable standard, should have been a non-incident whereas the BMW idiot's action was intentional and cynical.
He knew what he was doing. Wanted to get in front of the HGV. Tailgating the traffic turning right, because he was desperate to get in front. When he couldn't get in front of the HGV, cuts in front of traffic behind the HGV. Continuing his them of trying to bully others out of his way.
I don't get out of my car quickly but I would have been out the second I saw him going for the learner. No one learning to drive should be subjected to this kind of abuse for doing their absolute best and if I can prevent that from happening, I will
That's totally unacceptable. The poor learner could be anxious about driving for ages now, while the person who shouldn't be on the road is the BMW driver
Unfortunately there are people out there that firmly believe threatening and violent behaviour is acceptable and the only way to get through life. It was good to see the learner continue the journey and not be put off (assuming it wasn’t the instructor driving). Fingers crossed it hasn’t put them off more lessons eithet Word of advice from me if someone exits their vehicle towards yours…close the windows and lock the doors to prevent entry from said person. If you can, leave a gap between the vehicles so you have a quick escape route, never try to engage in conversation with them…they have no interest in what you have to say. And remember, this is one instance where you are allowed to call 999 while operating a vehicle but speaker phone or hands free if you can 👍
@@GodmanchesterGoblin I've worked in a school, that had a number of such pupils. It's demoralising. Even when there are only a few, their behaviour affects everyone.
@@johnbooth5199 Yep, I work in a PRU, and it's soul-destroying to face that all day, every day, with no support from management. This bloke is mild by comparison to some of ours; they'd be tooled up. Only a year to go.
I have used Operation SNAP for the first time for a road rage "case" that happened to me last week. I wasn't going to bother, but this video has changed my mind. If nothing comes of it I might submit to Ashley.
What an absolute bellend that BMW driver is, astonishing to think he put the blame on anyone else other than himself! I hope the Instructor reported him to the Police.
Shows you that young drivers are not the ones we should focus on. I'm 34 and its usually the middle-aged drivers that act the most entitled, all while driving large/powerful expensive vehicles like this. That said, 17 is a grown adult in he UK, so you could really tell he has issues calling this grown woman "little".
This is a disgrace, and legal action needs to be taken against BMW man. Ash, what do you think the instructor should do or can do in a situation like this? How do professionals handle this, and how can they better help their pupils after it's all over? I'm surprised they didn't pull over to talk through the incident and let the pupil recover from the trauma.
I was the passenger in the car… the instructor’s wife mentioned to us that the learner driver was very traumatised it took her about 4-6 weeks to get back in the car after this happened
@@thwaitesm wow. I'm surprised it didn't put them off driving altogether. That would be traumatising for most experienced drivers. I would have pulled over and put some distance between myself and that psycho if nothing else. I certainly wouldn't have taken off after the BMW at the same rate this driver did.
Even though the video and the above comments from the cammer clearly state the learner was driving? Why would they merge a bit slow if the instructor was driving?...@@Darth_Benga
If he cared about his 1 year old kid, he wouldn't have dangerously tailgated an inexperienced driver, he wouldn't have dangerously overtaken at speed, he wouldn't have dangerously come to a complete halt on a busy A road, and he wouldn't have dangerously exited the vehicle and face his back to oncoming traffic roaring by centimetres away. But mush for brains doesn't care about that. It's just one big macho fight for him.
I guess that BMW driver was perfect the moment he stepped in a car and passed first time with flying colours. We all had to start from the beginning, something he needs to remember. I wish I was driving behind the leaner
@@TheKev01 "An assault is any act (and not mere omission to act) by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence." That's from the CPS website.
@TheKev01 If it causes someone to feel threatened about a potential physical attack, it's assault. Hence why "verbal assault" is recognised as a term. Brake checking someone so you can lean into the driver window and scream at them more than fits the bill.
Just before covid I was on a driving lesson with a young girl on the hour before her drivimg test. As I call it, she starting to put the kettle on. What I mean by that is she was starting to get a bit nervous with just 20 minutes to go before her test. She approached a mini roundabout in a 20 mile an hour limit and was turning left. She's probably should have give way but she popped out in in front of car driven by a man well over 60 and he was approximately 30 or more mtrs from the mini roundabout and he sounded his horn. I did what i alway do and put my hand up open fingers to say sorry even if i don't feel that way. This was just a diffuse the situation as what you call a non event. He didn't even have to slow down from his approximate 15 mph. I pulled her in about 100 m to have a and a little talk and try and calm her nerves before the test. The man then pulled up alongside of us and started to rant, not at me but at the 18 year old girl. I tried to intervene but he was not listening.until I shouted , thanks, she's on her driving test in 20 minutes. He then just drove off but the damage was done. I'm pretty sure that girl would have passed first time if not for that horrible person. Covid kicked in and it took her a year more to pass . Three time her test was booked 1 day and cancelled before each lockdown. After 41 yes as an instructor this is the main reason reason I technically retired Christmas 22 but have continued to finish all my students. On my Facebook when I said I was retiring i put a message to to this girl that she would only understand as we talked a lot about aspects of the job and why I would retire. She like the comment and now looks cool in her mini clubman pay for by her hard work while learning and saving up for her dream car. I still get a buzz when students pass their test but I won't miss the traffic and the harassment from traffic after the last four students I have left. The last one will be bittersweet and I'm sure I will have a tear my eyes.
@@davidcollins1577 It wouldn't have fazed her to much on a normal lesson, she a tough cookie. 20 minutes before test caught her in a vulnerable moment didn't help the build up to her test. The driving test is not about ability it's about confidence. In those 41 years or now coming up 42 I've always said you will pass a test if you're confidently average. He's just caught her at the wrong moment.
That person described sounds like a real self-entitled tool, like all those who create incidents out of nothing for something to upload, but this was on another level from what I read. I think some people must forget they were once a learner - not sure how you can forget that experience (and that's coming from someone who hasn't been in that experience yet at all but will be very soon) and the mistakes you will have undoubtedly made. The fact he ruined her test single-handedly shows what kind of person he is. Maybe he never took his test and so doesn't know what a horn is or what the give way line actually means, and that's why he can't remember making the same mistake. That would make much more sense I suppose.
People don't act like their car is a tool, they act like their car is an extention of their home, which means that their rules apply for some weird reason? Not sure... Some people just are bad in nature too. Never met those kind on the road directly and the only disgusting thing i've seen in the last years was an Audi driver tailgating in the fast lane really close and flashing lights at the people in front signalling his poor judgement.
As soon as you said A17 Sleaford I knew what to expect. I've driven a lot around the UK and the A17 between Newark and King's Lynn has some of the worst examples of terrible driving you'll see anywhere. There is no wonder that there is such a high level of fatalities on the road. I admire the calm from the other people speaking out as I wouldn't have had that patience with him.
It's a bad road, many bends, very few stretches of dual carriageway, little chance of overtaking. But that doesn't defend the awful driving shown here by the BMW idiot. I used to live in Kings Lynn back in the 1970s, the road hasn't improved much since. I was in the area this time last year, on my way from Manchester to Norwich, it took around 1 1/2 hours to travel between Newark and Kings Lynn, averaging only around 40 mph. Also it took around an hour to get from Kings Lynn to Norwich, again averaging only 40 mph. But people should remember they're hardly in a densely populated area, there are no motorways in either Norfolk or Suffolk.
I've driven it a fair few times to visit friends who (unfortunately) live in Sleaford. Never had any major issues with emerging personally but I can totally see how there could be and why the road is peppered with cameras and a 40mph limit. In general I do think the speed at which the average person drives it is a little slow, waiting for those dual carriageway sections feels like a kid waiting for Christmas morning 😂
Yeah. Know it well. Its because it's a long straight fast road that gets a lot of slow moving lorries and farm vehicles. I used to deliver around Lincolnshire. I once experienced an idiot like this on a mini roundabout where I live in Rotherham. It took a lot not to get out of the car to him.
The one time i was off guard regarding a learner in front of me was at an off ramp. We were still 500m away from the intersection at the bottom, nothing in front of us, slams the brake like there is an emergency. Scared the shit out of me for half a second (had more than enough distance exactly because of it being a driving school car). I wasn't even tailgating and if i were within 2 seconds, i might have had a little fender bender... Always be mindfull of learners, they can do very unexpected things and in the end it's not their fault as they are still learning. You having your license should anticipate!
Everyone at some time or another has had to learn how to drive. It is at first a complicated procedure and can only be achieved by training and practice . Please be patient with both learner and other drivers you come into contact with on the road. Everyone has to start somewhere . Thank you all .
Absolutely.A driver awareness course and some anger management lessons in order i think followed by a probation period of ten years where if he behaves like this again while driving then he's banned for a number of years.Let drivers like this be conscious of their actions having real consequences for them if they act like this again.
the white van man who held back in case the driver of the camera car laid the BMW man out on his back in the lane is going to lose his white van license for driving safely.
Father and driver of the year over here 🥳 I do feel for everyone on the road around him for the rest of his life and that poor kid, this is how he’s protecting them? Shocking!
This is shocking what that BMW driver did. Being tailgated happens to me and my students almost daily on driving lessons. Once another road user gets behind us, they just want to get around and will do so aggressively and unsafely, even when we are at the speed limit. I'm so tired of the poor behaviours and attitudes on our roads. It makes me want to not bother with this industry anymore. Nothing is changing and everything is getting worse. It doesn't seem to be an issue just in Australia, it's world wide! 😔
People forget that we were all learners once. I always back off from a learner so they don't feel pressured, I remember how anxious it used to make me feel when I was taking lessons if someone was right behind me.
I've actually stepped in in a situation like this, wasn't a learner but an old boy who had basically done the same thing, mildly cut someone off, who then lost his mind, overtook the old boy and stopped in front, get out the car but I immediately beeped my horn, wound down my window and suggested he might want to leave the old fella alone, get back in his car and f off. I can't abide people like this.
@@Fireglo well, you said I wasn't impressing anyone, I pointed out I impressed 11 people, meaning you were wrong in your assertion. Seems like it's you who should run for parliament.
I hope the learner’s car had dashcam & maybe also rear view camera. Instructor should have reported him to police 😡. Dangerous driving AND threatening behaviour.
In before he tries to get this video taken down for a privacy complaint. Act like that in public, you deserve to be shamed. What a role model for their 1 year old.
The clip needs to be shared round as many dashcam/bad drivers channels as possible . When he gets convicted , local press websites may also pick up the video .
Some people are constantly simmering away, and it takes the slightest thing, to make them boil over. You can normally tell those kinds of people, and stay away from them.
@@johnbooth5199 Met a guy like that the other day. I'm walking the path alongside a road, approaching a junction that goes left. Headphones on, chilling, walking. I hear BEEEEEP BEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP so I turn around to see what car drama is happening. A white BMW approaches at speaed and swerves in to the junction, stopping right in front of me. He rolls down the passenger-side window and begins screaming from the driver seat, across his girlfriend, to ME. I remove my headphones. He's *screaming*, I mean red in the face, voice breaking. "YOU NEED TO BE MORE CAREFUL YOU WERE ABOUT TO JUST STEP OUT IN FRONT OF ME TAKE THOSE BLOODY HEADPHONES OFF WHEN YOU WALK YOU STUPID F***" and so on and so forth, while I stand smiling like an idiot. After he gives me a good bollocking, the car speeds off. I continue on my journey, turning left in to the same junction, never once having planned to cross the road.
Tbh having a one year old in the car can be a major distraction. But all the more reason to have your emotions in check rather than rant like a toddler, when in charge of a motor vehicle …
This is where I used to live. I'm still fairly close, but don't have to drive that road very often nowadays. It's always been a road that brings out the idiots in people. Probably because it's a main route through Lincolnshire and we have lots of single carriageways and hgv traffic. The section leading up to that clip is a crawler lane. It's often abused by drivers thinking they can do motorway speeds and the merge section at the end causes issues. The idiot in the BMW's behaviour was inexcusable. But not unexpected. It seems that as someone who regularly cycles around Lincolnshire, I receive the same treatment as learner driver vehicles. Too many impatient morons behind the wheel in a rush. You receive road rage here for simply being on the road.
To the angry man in the BMW if you have a 1 year old in your car, why on earth would you stop on an active 60mph road knowing fine well a car could come at 70-80 and slam into the back of you? 😂 Very irresponsible of you, you are the real danger to that child! Such a shame, screaming and shouting scaring everybody involved! Should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.
I went through there on my driving test it’s a horrible junction you can’t see round the corner where the BMW comes from. Especially when the grass is tall and other drivers are speeding.
Road rage and anger issues are contagious, be careful what you sow because it will affect your entire life. I have a friend who can be aggressive and was violent in his youth. [calmed down a bit now he is in his 70’s… but not much] He once had his 4 kids in the back of his car in town and a cyclist came out of a side road causing him the slam the brakes on, no seat belts in them days so the kids on the back seat went flying forwards ending up in the foot well. He hurled abuse at the cyclist to which the cyclist got off of his bike and became belligerent and aggressive and threatened him. Get got out of his car and shoved the guy over a low brick wall into someone’s garden, then picked the bike up and threw it over the wall on top of him. As he walked back to the car the kids were all wide eyed staring at him in shock. They all drove home in silence and as soon as they got in the kids blurted out what happened to his wife so he got an ear bashing off of the misses. The point being though, is that all of his oldest kids grew up to be aggressive and violent while the youngest were more easy going and calmer. As he got older he mellowed so the younger his kids the less aggression they saw him from him. [overall the entire family have not had a quite life, full of conflict and strife]
So becouse he lost 5 seconds, he lost another 2 minutes of his and 50 other cars time(not mentioning the danger he caused) to "explain" to the driver who is learning the importance of valuing other peoples time. I think he is the main pretendent to the Darwin award of 2024.
I was about to say that this one of the main roads if you want to travel from North Wales to East Anglia across the middle of England so you often get impatient drivers who are going long distance wanting to get through ASAP, [high amounts of traffic going long distance on single lane roads with lots of sections of lower speed limits] but to learn that he had a young child in the car means that he is probably local to the area and not traveling much distance. Either way he has massive anger issues and needs help, [this is probably an issue with him out of the car as well]
Grown man incapable of controlling his emotions and taking it out on a young impressionable 17 year old. Absolutely not impressed, I imagine there’s other stuff going on in his life but not an excuse
Years ago , i was behind a car behind a bully who stopped in the middle of a dual carriageway in Motherwell to get out and remonstrate with the driver of the car in front of me. Wish i had had the nerve to drive past and give him a piece of my mind and tell him to get on his way.
I had something akin to the start if that incident yesterday. I (learner driver) was heading up an A road at about 60mph when someone pulled out about 150-200 yards ahead of me. Only my response was to brake and maintain distance as the car in front got up to speed. No horns, no harm. We all just got on with our day. "If you do that on your test, you'll fail" - though i had made some minor errors myself during the drive.
I would say it very much depends on distances and speed differential , also on following traffic . As a former advanced instructor I'd be concerned if a student didn't brake if the emerge was close enough to risk a collision , even if it did inconvenience people behind , but if there was no imminent risk of collision then I'd be happier with just lifting off the throttle until you saw whether the emerging vehicle was going to get up to speed . We always taught - the first method of braking is by acceleration sense , the second method is by braking : in other words there should almost always be a period of deceleration before needing to use the brakes - only in an emergency should you need to come straight off the accelerator and onto the brakes , unless you are using both at once which only is taught in certain more advanced driving scenarios , and not for normal driving .
I'm just dumbstruck. These people GENUINELY need to be named and shamed. Acting like this on public roads, using their child as a defence while causing danger to other road users is the height if hypocrisy. Thank you for sharing.
The thing is about learners is that they have road signs front and rear to warn you of their novice status. The other thing to remember is they are in some respects incompetent and trying to acquire the full range of skills to pass the driving test. So if you mess about with them they may suddenly do totally the wrong thing in a big way which could cause damage to your vehicle.
That man should be utterly ashamed of himself, people that allow themselves to be wound up so easily are always the most dangerous people on the road! I have seen so many people angered by things that didn't even inconvenience them but maybe just hurt their ego crash to try and get revenge
Sure it wasn't a great emerge but that's just part and parcel of learning - I'm sure the instructor and pupil would have talked about that emerge and whether the pupil could have done anything better, but that BMW driver decided to make a mountain out of a mole hill which could put off that learner driver fron learning to driver altogether A selfish attitude over minor inconveniences. If his 1 year old child was in danger, it wouldn't have been because of the learner driver
Wow, what an absolutely horrendous way to act. That poor learner driver and their instructor behaved and continued driving really well. I guess at least the learner driver now understands what some people are like when they get in their cars.
What a psycho. Ever since I started watching these videos I have tried to be a less aggressive driver. You never know what type of people are driving about unsupervised. Not worth it at all.
Wow, that really shows the magnitude of this guy's self-centred attitude and monumental lack of self awareness, reinforced not only stopping and getting out to berate the learner but also by his driving later in the video. He gets mildly inconvenienced and proceeds to majorly inconvenience himself, everyone behind and endangers everyone on two occasions. Entitled *#@%! Almost defies belief.
@@cuprashoe Yeah, most people think BMW = Luxury and Expense. Only way they are expensive is when comparing their running costs to competitors. BMW take you for a ride!
I remember I had a lesson at 9am on a weekday and was driving normally around a roundabout with my instructor saying it’s been going good today. Next minute the car behind comes around the outside of the me on the roundabout and overtakes me on the exit. Then proceeds to stop the car, get out and walk up to my window screaming that I was speeding and I cut off him mum who was following behind him. It all happened so quick that you don’t really have time to even process it. Luckily I used it as a lesson to help me relax when driving from then onwards as I thought there’s no way it can get worse than that at any point!
Know the the roundabout well. Leadenham to Sleaford. That Leg onto the roundabout is not traffic light controlled for some reason but all others are. Never an unmarked car around when you need one. That guy could of caused a pileup slamming the anchors on like that on that stretch of road. I think he was a bit fast as well coming up to the Leadenham juction (not a slip road BTW a Tee Junction). I've had several occasions where I have had HGV's tailgate my van on that stretch even when I'm turning right near Cranwell. I had to put the indicator on early and then the brakes lightly and they still didn't get the hint and stayed on the rear bumper.
If you ever turn up for work and think your job is pointless, spare a thought for the people who install indicators on Audi’s and BMW’s. And yes, that may be stereotyping, but when all you see are BMW and Audi drivers on the road acting like entitled idiots, I’m afraid those stereotypes stick.
Funny day today. 3 people pulled out in front of me today. One of those needed an emergency stop! I just dealt with it and got on with my day. Yep! I have calmed down a lot, and, Largely down to Ashley's video's. Great driving lesson's and life lesson's too. But, Should said BMW driver had walked up on me in such a way, an erm! 'assertive' discussion would ensue! In fact, I'd have had 'that discussion' once he walked up on the learner driver. I actually do like bullies! It's called 'play time' I still make mistakes when driving, we all do. But, when you see a a learner, leaning to drive, then you must accept that they will make mistakes. The very worst mistake a driver could ever make is this. My partner is learning to drive. She's not very good at it truth be told. She is learning. Doing well too. But, should anyone ever dare walk up on her in this way, I will ruin your day. That, I promise you! Be very careful who you piss off!!!
Well said!! 😊👍 With a name like mad mick, I wouldn't like to cross you 😂😂 But good on your partner for keeping taking her lessons - I only passed 1st time 3 years ago when I was 57 - so it's never too late, I just found all these youtube channels like Ashley's etc immensely helpful and I still watch them even now as a full license holder. You sound exactly like my hubby, as he would "lose the rag" with someone if he found out they were bullying a learner 😂 Good luck to your other half when her test comes up 😊👍
@@DriveSmartDash thank you. I was a trained driver in the army. I find Ashley's vids a way to retrain myself to drive better has a civilian. P.S. I'm only mad sometimes:)
I agree. This road is a funny one, national speed limit and yet nearly everyone decides to dawdle along at 50 (drives me and my wife crazy to the point we try to avoid this road). Can see why some people might get frustrated, myself included. But there's no way I'd ever react like the BMW did or get impatient enough to overtake dangerously.
Thank you for the upload! This happened in Italy? Terrible thing to of happened! People learn from this mistake: do not overtake at a junction & do not speed especially in urban areas. You do not need to eb a professional to participate in challenges like any open race e.g. London Marathon etc but you do need to train for these things & be prepared! Peace & Love!!!
I fear for the 1yo life with a father like that. He had to slam his brakes on because the learner pulled out, did he boll**ks. Think he was driving so close to that car because that's as far down the road he ever looks.
Cammer here. Just to give some updates. We tried tracking down the driving school so we could give them the footage but they don't have any social media at all so no way of getting in contact (there is another using the same name, it is not them). His wife did get in touch but again, no way of messaging her directly on TH-cam and my replies in the comments to her keep getting deleted. Either way, they reported the incident as did I but I haven't heard anything back. Assuming nothing came of it as it happened way back in summer last year.
Sending the clip to Ashley was a good move, and well done for trying to support the instructor.
TH-cam deletes any and all comments which feature telephone numbers and emails. You should add your email address to the bio on your profile and tell the person to contact you that way
Its one of my biggest pet peeves of TH-cam, not that it removes comments but that it practically never tells you when one of your comments were removed and what for. There's a large group of words that if put in a comment will just automatically hide it for other users @@fervent2896
At least you tried. I may possibly have considered sending that to the police myself but it depends on whether you get a clearly readable number plate for the Beemer.
Please submit the video through the online police portal for that area
“You endangered my child!”
Screamed the road raging, tailgating, speeding maniac at himself probably.
Don't forget the most dangerous bit stopping dead in the middle of a fast moving road
Accusation is usually confession.
@@TheBoro4eva And standing in the middle of the road with his ass sticking in traffic.
Also, storming towards a vehicle you've just pulled up and stopped. What if the person panics, a floors it, collecting you on the bonnet, as we've seen in a different Ashley clip, worried their getting hijacked or going to be assaulted? Where does that leave the kid, with their dad splayed on the road? It's just playing Russian roulette on the roads, road raging like this.
I have been driving with a 17 year old family member to help get her driving hours up for the logbook. Out of the dozen or so times, on at least half the times, people tailgate and one was even high beaming at her. At all times she was doing the EXACT speed limit.
I was shocked at how nasty and impatient people are now.
I will be buying dashcams for front and rear, and have found some YT channels that specialise in posting these clips. Hopefully as a sort of ‘name & shame.’
Staggers me how nasty and spiteful so many people are. 😔
Cammer here again, final update (if a little late because I forgot).
Driver got taken to court, pleaded guilty to a series of charges which I won't get into but the long and short of it: fines totaling around £200, 9 points on license and community service.
This is good. Fair play to you! Hope everyone is encouraged to get a dashcam. Once i can afford one, I'll go for one of the Viofo cams! :P Economy quite limited. Stay safe everyone. Even from dangerous drivers like this
I feel sorry for the child... who needs a Dad like that?
And that child will likely go onto the roads with the same fine traits in years to come.
My father wasn't much different in the late 90s 😓. He's calmed down a lot over the years though but he had really bad phases.
Charitably, he's likely being judged at his worst self. We shouldn't be too puritanical about bad actions.
@@cyclecam6328 Agreed, i saw another comment with someone judging his actions based on his appearance and car choice. It's barbaric.
@@petecurran3995i agree people get a lot of their habits from parents, hopefully when the child has grown up he’ll see this clip and learn from his dads mistake
Cammer here again, I have a new update! (Interesting how it's just come up now haha).
I've had a call from the police regarding the incident.
The learner did pass her test in the end but doesn't want to provide a statement and bring it all back up.
However I am happy to provide a statement which I'll be doing next week. From what I've gathered, the driver of the BMW has also been contacted by the police but I have no more info beyond that. I will try and post another update should anything else pop up.
Good news about the learner though and the fact the police are finally doing something about it.
Great news, both for the young lady who passed her test and the total lunatic being investigated, hope he knows how he’s been collared on TH-cam & not only seen the video but also viewed the comments
we need to know what happens!
Thanks for the update. Whether a one off for the BMW or not (and I doubt very much an isolated incident) glad the police had words. Great update about the L driver now passed and hope it does not effect the L driver in the future.
Excellent ! Make sure that when he is convicted , and hopefully gets custody , that the press get the story : if he goes inside and the other prisoners learn he bullied a young female driver , he won't walk straight for some time after he eventually gets back out .
@@derekheeps1244 So, let's be clear, you want him to go to prison for a bit of road rage? And you want him to be raped?
Seek help.
That guy is lethal behind the wheel. Police should be knocking on his door.
And letter from the DVSA about not being fit to drive
Yeah, rather than show the BMW driver this clip it needs showing to the police.
Absolutely disgraceful!! Could really put somebody of learning if they are nervous anyway. What a complete moron, poor baby.
Could put somebody of learning behaving like that, feel sorry for his child. Guys a complete tool.
Too busy harassing piano players and hymn singers!
Imagine leaving a one year old unattended in a vehicle on a 60 mph road.
not to mention most of that road is a clear way meaning people aren’t assuming someone will be stopping in a lane
you don't know it was unattended
@@gameclips5734 and you don't know it wasn't. What a pointless comment
@@ryanwooldridge7546 Right but he's not the one assuming things and throwing around unwarranted accusations.
@@ryanwooldridge7546 It likely wasn't unattended, but regardless, acting like this on the road with a kid in car is utter waste of space stuff. I feel sorry for the kid and whatever poor woman fell for him....
concerned for his one year old yet he proceed's to tailgate, overtake stupidly, slam on his breaks AND stop dead center in the middle of a fast moving road to throw a tantrum. Poor kid having a dad like him.
Shame his thought processes are nowhere near as fast as his pretend racing car!
@@hamshackleton Indeed. More money than sense .
I'd say the one year old was the closest thing to an adult in that car.
*brakes *centre
alright Grammer Nazi@@RedPanda525
Anyone else think raging like this at a learner under instruction is ban worthy?
Definitely
@@Ryan-uh9le yea 3 years license revoked or something and requirement for retesting as a requirement to re attain the license.
@@knabdank You probably have this too, in Germany we have this thing called idiot test which is a nicer way of saying what it actually is, which is a psychological evaluation for people who probably are not "all there" in the head. To get that you must have been breaking rule after rule and shown you're not trustworthy. If you are as unhinged as this guy you really shouldn't be operating a 2 ton death machine. It's one thing to be a dipshit and brake check someone (which is also not okay), but it's another thing to brake check with your baby in your car, come to a full stop, exit the car, scream at a LEARNER, stomp around the road like you own it while everyone is going like what, 80-100 km/h, then to break the rules yourself. This guy needs a idiot test asap. I hope the dashcam driver sent this to the police.
Aye I mean definitely so
Ban plus car given to charity
Feel sorry for the child, it’s going to be a traumatic upbringing
I think we should be more charitable about these things and not judge people at their worst.
@@cyclecam6328 Most people's "worsts" still far exceed brake checking on an open A road and screaming at a novice driver. What a weird attempt to minimise this man's behaviour.
@@cyclecam6328 no. This behaviour was totally unacceptable and indicative of someone who thinks that different rules apply to them.
@@cyclecam6328I don’t. He’s probably a wifebeater too.
@@cyclecam6328 Oh get lost. This is totally unacceptable behavior that put multiple people at risk. The worst part is that he actually thinks he is on the right. If you can't prevent yourself from doing stuff like this you should not be allowed to drive motorized vehicles in traffic.
That child has got no chance. With a dad like that, it will be bred into him to act the same. As a driving instructor myself, these sort of incidents do happen but thankfully, the other 99% of drivers on the road are great so it's very rare.
So 99% are great? I doubt this. It's more 59% are decent. 30% bad. 10% terrible. 1% great.
That last little maneuver showed just how much that guy actually cared about the safety of that one- year old.
skinny jeans, skinny fat, receding hairline, scarf blowing in the wind, 2 sizes too tight henley and black boots, White bmw. Says it all really.
😂
Thought you were describing me for a second 😂
The BMW will be on finance. He's a Deano; its a cruel thing to inflict reality upon the Deano.
An X1 at that, a true mediocrity of a car
Road rager def making up for inadeqacies
That poor learner. They did very well to continue their lesson. I would have had to pull over and ask the driving instructor to take over if that had been me when I was learning. Props to the learner and the instructor for keeping calm!
So is mildly inconvenienced by a poor emerge, proceeded to inconvenience himself even more by standing in the middle of the road throwing his toys out the pram over the driving standards and 'endangering' his child, then proceeds to drive like a twunt and endangers his child?
I do hope he sees this video and realizes what he looks like.
Maybe the child was the cause of the driver's actions? Imagine being in a car on your own with a one year old having a tantrum, Having tantrums is contagious didn't ya know?
Good job that white van didn't clip his arse whilst he was having a rant !
And then is in the wrong lane on a roundabout and cuts dangerously and late in front of another car. Could not make it up.
@@clivewilliams3661 I'm not sure if your being sarcastic or not? Bad moods can affect others, but if your 1 year olds tantrum causes you to do what this video shows then thats not good for driving.
I hope the police see this clip and fine the idiot having a tantrum
I would have called 999 the moment he got out the car. This is beyond excusable and beyond dangerous
I've always said: people who shout at those they think shouldn't be on the road, are the ones who shouldn't be on the road.
In a nutshell.
@@PedroConejo1939 What he said is bad logic. There are legit people who shouldn't be on the road who get shouted at that they shouldn't be on the road. The act of shouting itself does not preclude the shouter from being a good driver. The act of getting out of one's car on the other hand, like we see in this video, makes it logical to presume that the road rager shouldn't be on the road. The majority of us have shouted (without stopping or exiting the car) at one time or another, be it under our breaths or out an open window.
Not gonna claim i'm more than an average driver, never will be a really good one. But there are many out there that are way worse than me and i'm not stopped by comments like this to cuss them out from the relative privacy of my car. I'll not rage or get out of my car, but i'll let of the steam immediately as i don't want it bottled up.
By the way, the merge wasn't even that poorly done and not even worthy of a short moment of 'that was a minor error in judgement, but no harm as it was within safe relative speeds' The white car didn't even have to brake (much) and that is just something you should expect now and then when dealing with people: small errors.
@@PedroConejo1939 100%
@@DavidWhatfor No, he's wrong.
Passed yesterday with 2 minors at St Helens in part thanks to you Ashley. Thanks for all you do.
What's this you have to take your test with two small children in the car! 😉🤣🤣 Seriously though congratulations.
😂😂thank you@@cloudmaker
This guy needs reporting to the police.
precisely the reason if you see something like tis, you need to report it at the earliest convenience. let a week go by and it is too late
Gonna go with social services as well. He is putting the child in danger with that driving.
If he drives like that and gets so wound up by such a small thing then that child needs to be on social services radar.
Who knows what he does behind closed doors!
Police won’t do sh it
Might as well show it to the staff at Kwik fit 😂
Yep. You can't just block the road like that without a good reason.
"I've got a 1-year-old in the car!" Yet he's the one driving dangerously, nobody else
Narcissistic behavior at its finest. Getting triggered in his honor by having to slow down a tiny bit because of a learner driver. I mean, who would have thought that they might possibly make a mistake, right? Then trying to look for sympathy from others by saying, he's got a 1 year old kid in the car, completely oblivious of his own dangerous actions, thinking he is completely in the right. I hope the kid's mother files a divorce soon, this guy will be very bad for the kid's mental health when growing up. All the best to them!
Forget mental health, it's only a matter of time before his driving is a direct and severe harm on that kid's phsycial health! No way he should be in charge of an infant when he acts out like this.
I totally agree with u. My main annoyance is. I drive myself. Is peoples addiction with stopping on main roads for all sorts off reasons. I absolutely hate this. They don't see the danger. Main roads are to keep traffic flowing and going. Not meant for stopping. If you need to stop or get out of your vehicle. You reduce the risk of an accident happening to you if u just find a safe space after turning off the main road. But hey back to this guy in video. He has no care for himself or others by just putting them all in danger by just stopping in middle off the road.
Well let me rephrase that, not annoyance. I absolutely hate those drivers who stop on main roads. As I said I drive myself mainly because of the danger I would be putting myself or others in. Even if I'm dropping someone off i always turn off the main road and into a side street. We'll by doing this you are so much safer
Let’s not forget his dangerous manoeuvre off the roundabout forcing his way in to where he wanted to go, he’s been and will be like that for a while until the police or someone who doesn’t give fluck takes him down, we won’t ever know though unfortunately 🤷🏻♂️
...the behavior you describe and BMW ownership seems to go hand in hand.
What an awesome dude, teaching the learner about road rage so that they are fully prepared when they hit the streets. Wish more people were as considerate as him, sacrificing their family for these important lessons!
Driving is a privilege, not a right. Time to take away said right from this danger to society.
If they even have a licence in the first place...
One thing you can be sure about with these people OUTRAGED at being slowed for a moment is they will have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to stand and argue and fight. I gave up riding my motorcycle because of this, it's definitely got worse.
On a bike it is easier to just ride away from them .
I think what upset him was that someone of lower status (in his mind) got in front him. That was a challenge to his self image, so he got triggered.
This narcissist has probably been raised by parents who never said "No" to his demands.
What image?
he drives a bmw by the looks of it so clearly
His image is a cretin who bullies learner drivers. Probably inferiority complex as can’t afford a X5 or bigger SUV.
He drives an entry level BMW but to him he is a BMW DRIVER. Well, big deal. Nobody cares.
Similar happened to myself, I was mildly inconvenienced by a van pulling out of an awkward side road, around a blind corner. I was on my motorcycle and we ended up side by side at the next set of traffic lights. The driver rolled his window down and was quite apologetic, I responded that I was not upset in any way and humor was involved. Thumbs up from both of us, wished each other a pleasant day and continued our journeys feeling better about the world. :)
You have to wonder what these people are like in general if this is how they react to such a minor thing like getting slightly inconvenienced by a learner driver.
Worry not. One day this guy will get out to shout at a driver only to find an even angrier, more aggressive version of himself....
Great video. One thing nit mentioned is how it must have traumatised the poor learner to have that BMW bully yelling at him through the window.
Those that protest and shout the loudest are usually the ones that need to look at themselves first
It's insane to me that the BMW driver stereotype isn't even an exaggerarion, in fact its far from a stereotype. Every BMW I see on the roads I'm on high alert because 90% of my experience with them has been negative, bullying, narcissistic behaviour and road use
"YOU ENDANGERED MY CHILD!"
*Proceeds to tailgate, swerve, aggresively overtakes and leave their child unattended on a 60mph road.*
What a lout. The final part is his lane change at the Holdingham roundabout. Unlike some roundabouts, the signage on approach is clear and the lane configuration is good. His unnecessary lane change is worse than the learner driver's emerge in that the learner made an error that, by any reasonable standard, should have been a non-incident whereas the BMW idiot's action was intentional and cynical.
When a learner does it he blows his top then risks his kid's life; when he does it , it is skill.
@@DemiGod.. 🤣🤣A legend in his shaving mirror
Even though it's so clearly signed now so many still manage to get it wrong 🙃
It was clear however that this driver's lane change was intentional
He knew what he was doing. Wanted to get in front of the HGV. Tailgating the traffic turning right, because he was desperate to get in front. When he couldn't get in front of the HGV, cuts in front of traffic behind the HGV. Continuing his them of trying to bully others out of his way.
Needs to go back to learner school me thinks.👍👍
I don't get out of my car quickly but I would have been out the second I saw him going for the learner. No one learning to drive should be subjected to this kind of abuse for doing their absolute best and if I can prevent that from happening, I will
That BMW driver needs to be arrested & charged by the police, that was shocking.
What a ####### #### !
So many offences.
He is indeed a flippin clod?
He needs to be put in a locked room with the father of that learner ; or if sent to jail the word put round the other prisoners what he had done .
That's totally unacceptable. The poor learner could be anxious about driving for ages now, while the person who shouldn't be on the road is the BMW driver
"We're watching the white BMW"
Of course...
Audi and BMW drivers are the taxi drivers of civilian motorists.
"I've got a BMW. Everyone should accommodate me on the road."
Unfortunately there are people out there that firmly believe threatening and violent behaviour is acceptable and the only way to get through life.
It was good to see the learner continue the journey and not be put off (assuming it wasn’t the instructor driving). Fingers crossed it hasn’t put them off more lessons eithet
Word of advice from me if someone exits their vehicle towards yours…close the windows and lock the doors to prevent entry from said person. If you can, leave a gap between the vehicles so you have a quick escape route, never try to engage in conversation with them…they have no interest in what you have to say. And remember, this is one instance where you are allowed to call 999 while operating a vehicle but speaker phone or hands free if you can 👍
I feel sorry for the teachers when that child reaches school age. That level of entitlement has no place in society.
@@GodmanchesterGoblin I have dealt with entitled people and this character is not entitled, he is just an obnoxious, horrid bully…imho 👍
@@smilerbob Maybe both...?
@@GodmanchesterGoblin I've worked in a school, that had a number of such pupils. It's demoralising. Even when there are only a few, their behaviour affects everyone.
@@johnbooth5199 Yep, I work in a PRU, and it's soul-destroying to face that all day, every day, with no support from management. This bloke is mild by comparison to some of ours; they'd be tooled up. Only a year to go.
I have used Operation SNAP for the first time for a road rage "case" that happened to me last week. I wasn't going to bother, but this video has changed my mind. If nothing comes of it I might submit to Ashley.
These people are just set out for a confrontation, they're in such a rush that they have time to... stop and berate a learner for no reason?
Fast pretend racing car - slow brain!
Exactly.
He was in such a hurry that he had to stop to shout at another motorist.
What an absolute bellend that BMW driver is, astonishing to think he put the blame on anyone else other than himself! I hope the Instructor reported him to the Police.
Shows you that young drivers are not the ones we should focus on. I'm 34 and its usually the middle-aged drivers that act the most entitled, all while driving large/powerful expensive vehicles like this.
That said, 17 is a grown adult in he UK, so you could really tell he has issues calling this grown woman "little".
This is a disgrace, and legal action needs to be taken against BMW man.
Ash, what do you think the instructor should do or can do in a situation like this? How do professionals handle this, and how can they better help their pupils after it's all over? I'm surprised they didn't pull over to talk through the incident and let the pupil recover from the trauma.
Not pulling over, and a few other things, make me think it was the instructor themselves behind the wheel and not a learner.
I was the passenger in the car… the instructor’s wife mentioned to us that the learner driver was very traumatised it took her about 4-6 weeks to get back in the car after this happened
@@thwaitesm wow. I'm surprised it didn't put them off driving altogether. That would be traumatising for most experienced drivers. I would have pulled over and put some distance between myself and that psycho if nothing else. I certainly wouldn't have taken off after the BMW at the same rate this driver did.
Lock doors, shut windows, and show the idiot he is being recorded.
Even though the video and the above comments from the cammer clearly state the learner was driving? Why would they merge a bit slow if the instructor was driving?...@@Darth_Benga
If he cared about his 1 year old kid, he wouldn't have dangerously tailgated an inexperienced driver, he wouldn't have dangerously overtaken at speed, he wouldn't have dangerously come to a complete halt on a busy A road, and he wouldn't have dangerously exited the vehicle and face his back to oncoming traffic roaring by centimetres away. But mush for brains doesn't care about that. It's just one big macho fight for him.
I would be concerned about the effect it had on the learner, if this had happened to me as a learner i probably would have given up
She was so traumatised she couldn’t get back in the car for over a month
@@thwaitesmI am not surprised. It must have been shocking for her
I guess that BMW driver was perfect the moment he stepped in a car and passed first time with flying colours. We all had to start from the beginning, something he needs to remember. I wish I was driving behind the leaner
Unfortunately BMW drivers do seem to think they are entitled.
This crosses a line. Not just dangerous driving, but assault. This guy is a legitimate danger to the public and deserves a custodial sentence.
It does cross the line but it's not assault
@@TheKev01 It most certainly is assault. I doubt he was asking for cake recipes.
@@TheKev01 "An assault is any act (and not mere omission to act) by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence." That's from the CPS website.
@@stpeter7432that's interesting. Because yes, that learner driver probably felt very intimidated!
@TheKev01 If it causes someone to feel threatened about a potential physical attack, it's assault. Hence why "verbal assault" is recognised as a term. Brake checking someone so you can lean into the driver window and scream at them more than fits the bill.
Just before covid I was on a driving lesson with a young girl on the hour before her drivimg test. As I call it, she starting to put the kettle on. What I mean by that is she was starting to get a bit nervous with just 20 minutes to go before her test. She approached a mini roundabout in a 20 mile an hour limit and was turning left. She's probably should have give way but she popped out in in front of car driven by a man well over 60 and he was approximately 30 or more mtrs from the mini roundabout and he sounded his horn. I did what i alway do and put my hand up open fingers to say sorry even if i don't feel that way. This was just a diffuse the situation as what you call a non event. He didn't even have to slow down from his approximate 15 mph. I pulled her in about 100 m to have a and a little talk and try and calm her nerves before the test. The man then pulled up alongside of us and started to rant, not at me but at the 18 year old girl. I tried to intervene but he was not listening.until I shouted , thanks, she's on her driving test in 20 minutes. He then just drove off but the damage was done. I'm pretty sure that girl would have passed first time if not for that horrible person. Covid kicked in and it took her a year more to pass . Three time her test was booked 1 day and cancelled before each lockdown. After 41 yes as an instructor this is the main reason reason I technically retired Christmas 22 but have continued to finish all my students. On my Facebook when I said I was retiring i put a message to to this girl that she would only understand as we talked a lot about aspects of the job and why I would retire. She like the comment and now looks cool in her mini clubman pay for by her hard work while learning and saving up for her dream car. I still get a buzz when students pass their test but I won't miss the traffic and the harassment from traffic after the last four students I have left. The last one will be bittersweet and I'm sure I will have a tear my eyes.
@@davidcollins1577 It wouldn't have fazed her to much on a normal lesson, she a tough cookie. 20 minutes before test caught her in a vulnerable moment didn't help the build up to her test. The driving test is not about ability it's about confidence. In those 41 years or now coming up 42 I've always said you will pass a test if you're confidently average. He's just caught her at the wrong moment.
That person described sounds like a real self-entitled tool, like all those who create incidents out of nothing for something to upload, but this was on another level from what I read. I think some people must forget they were once a learner - not sure how you can forget that experience (and that's coming from someone who hasn't been in that experience yet at all but will be very soon) and the mistakes you will have undoubtedly made. The fact he ruined her test single-handedly shows what kind of person he is. Maybe he never took his test and so doesn't know what a horn is or what the give way line actually means, and that's why he can't remember making the same mistake. That would make much more sense I suppose.
People don't act like their car is a tool, they act like their car is an extention of their home, which means that their rules apply for some weird reason? Not sure... Some people just are bad in nature too. Never met those kind on the road directly and the only disgusting thing i've seen in the last years was an Audi driver tailgating in the fast lane really close and flashing lights at the people in front signalling his poor judgement.
sorry to sound brutal but you shouldn't be on the road if you can't compose yourself after an incident either
@@Krapvag you haven't got a clue what you're on about.
"i have a kid so I'm going to put them in danger and shout at you for it"
As soon as you said A17 Sleaford I knew what to expect. I've driven a lot around the UK and the A17 between Newark and King's Lynn has some of the worst examples of terrible driving you'll see anywhere. There is no wonder that there is such a high level of fatalities on the road.
I admire the calm from the other people speaking out as I wouldn't have had that patience with him.
It's a bad road, many bends, very few stretches of dual carriageway, little chance of overtaking. But that doesn't defend the awful driving shown here by the BMW idiot. I used to live in Kings Lynn back in the 1970s, the road hasn't improved much since. I was in the area this time last year, on my way from Manchester to Norwich, it took around 1 1/2 hours to travel between Newark and Kings Lynn, averaging only around 40 mph. Also it took around an hour to get from Kings Lynn to Norwich, again averaging only 40 mph. But people should remember they're hardly in a densely populated area, there are no motorways in either Norfolk or Suffolk.
I've driven it a fair few times to visit friends who (unfortunately) live in Sleaford. Never had any major issues with emerging personally but I can totally see how there could be and why the road is peppered with cameras and a 40mph limit. In general I do think the speed at which the average person drives it is a little slow, waiting for those dual carriageway sections feels like a kid waiting for Christmas morning 😂
Yeah. Know it well. Its because it's a long straight fast road that gets a lot of slow moving lorries and farm vehicles. I used to deliver around Lincolnshire. I once experienced an idiot like this on a mini roundabout where I live in Rotherham. It took a lot not to get out of the car to him.
The one time i was off guard regarding a learner in front of me was at an off ramp. We were still 500m away from the intersection at the bottom, nothing in front of us, slams the brake like there is an emergency. Scared the shit out of me for half a second (had more than enough distance exactly because of it being a driving school car). I wasn't even tailgating and if i were within 2 seconds, i might have had a little fender bender... Always be mindfull of learners, they can do very unexpected things and in the end it's not their fault as they are still learning. You having your license should anticipate!
Everyone at some time or another has had to learn how to drive. It is at first a complicated procedure and can only be achieved by training and practice . Please be patient with both learner and other drivers you come into contact with on the road. Everyone has to start somewhere . Thank you all .
What a complete weapon! If he's that angry and can't control himself, he shouldn't bee in charge of a potentially lethal machine.
Absolutely.A driver awareness course and some anger management lessons in order i think followed by a probation period of ten years where if he behaves like this again while driving then he's banned for a number of years.Let drivers like this be conscious of their actions having real consequences for them if they act like this again.
He's clearly not suitable to drive - 12 month ban.
Lifetime ban
what makes you think a 12 month ban is enough?
@@kirkhunter146 I don’t really, but our gov is currently v weak on these people so 12 months would be a start
the white van man who held back in case the driver of the camera car laid the BMW man out on his back in the lane is going to lose his white van license for driving safely.
Father and driver of the year over here 🥳
I do feel for everyone on the road around him for the rest of his life and that poor kid, this is how he’s protecting them? Shocking!
This is shocking what that BMW driver did. Being tailgated happens to me and my students almost daily on driving lessons. Once another road user gets behind us, they just want to get around and will do so aggressively and unsafely, even when we are at the speed limit. I'm so tired of the poor behaviours and attitudes on our roads. It makes me want to not bother with this industry anymore. Nothing is changing and everything is getting worse. It doesn't seem to be an issue just in Australia, it's world wide! 😔
People forget that we were all learners once. I always back off from a learner so they don't feel pressured, I remember how anxious it used to make me feel when I was taking lessons if someone was right behind me.
@@davidmannion7333 if only more people were like you! Thank you for your empathy and kindness around learner drivers. :)
This is becoming more and more common on our roads. Should have his licence taken off him and never given back.
I've actually stepped in in a situation like this, wasn't a learner but an old boy who had basically done the same thing, mildly cut someone off, who then lost his mind, overtook the old boy and stopped in front, get out the car but I immediately beeped my horn, wound down my window and suggested he might want to leave the old fella alone, get back in his car and f off. I can't abide people like this.
You're not impressing anyone bro.
@@Fireglo 11 people liked it so I impressed them
@@paulharper4196 11 people? Oh wow you should consider running for parliament next. 😂
@@Fireglo well, you said I wasn't impressing anyone, I pointed out I impressed 11 people, meaning you were wrong in your assertion. Seems like it's you who should run for parliament.
@@paulharper4196 11 people is no one.
I hope the learner’s car had dashcam & maybe also rear view camera. Instructor should have reported him to police 😡. Dangerous driving AND threatening behaviour.
The cammer commented above saying they'd reported it but nothing had come of it.
@@glenn1534 Lincolnshire Police at its finest 🙄
All drivers, this bully included, were a learner themselves before is all I have to say. Total hipocrisy
In before he tries to get this video taken down for a privacy complaint.
Act like that in public, you deserve to be shamed. What a role model for their 1 year old.
The clip needs to be shared round as many dashcam/bad drivers channels as possible . When he gets convicted , local press websites may also pick up the video .
Jesus, I admire your restraint, if he'd come mincing over to my car like that my rage may have got the better of me.
I would hazard a guess that this chap is angry most of the time and regularly goes off on one for the most trivial of reasons.
Some people are constantly simmering away, and it takes the slightest thing, to make them boil over.
You can normally tell those kinds of people, and stay away from them.
It only take event for them to meet their match.
@@johnbooth5199 Met a guy like that the other day. I'm walking the path alongside a road, approaching a junction that goes left. Headphones on, chilling, walking. I hear BEEEEEP BEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP so I turn around to see what car drama is happening. A white BMW approaches at speaed and swerves in to the junction, stopping right in front of me. He rolls down the passenger-side window and begins screaming from the driver seat, across his girlfriend, to ME. I remove my headphones. He's *screaming*, I mean red in the face, voice breaking. "YOU NEED TO BE MORE CAREFUL YOU WERE ABOUT TO JUST STEP OUT IN FRONT OF ME TAKE THOSE BLOODY HEADPHONES OFF WHEN YOU WALK YOU STUPID F***" and so on and so forth, while I stand smiling like an idiot. After he gives me a good bollocking, the car speeds off. I continue on my journey, turning left in to the same junction, never once having planned to cross the road.
Basically any bwm or audi driver in a nut shell.
Tbh having a one year old in the car can be a major distraction. But all the more reason to have your emotions in check rather than rant like a toddler, when in charge of a motor vehicle …
Pots and kettles lol. I have plenty of time for learner drivers, we all had to do it at some stage, well I hope we all did!
This is where I used to live. I'm still fairly close, but don't have to drive that road very often nowadays. It's always been a road that brings out the idiots in people. Probably because it's a main route through Lincolnshire and we have lots of single carriageways and hgv traffic.
The section leading up to that clip is a crawler lane. It's often abused by drivers thinking they can do motorway speeds and the merge section at the end causes issues.
The idiot in the BMW's behaviour was inexcusable. But not unexpected. It seems that as someone who regularly cycles around Lincolnshire, I receive the same treatment as learner driver vehicles. Too many impatient morons behind the wheel in a rush. You receive road rage here for simply being on the road.
To the angry man in the BMW if you have a 1 year old in your car, why on earth would you stop on an active 60mph road knowing fine well a car could come at 70-80 and slam into the back of you? 😂 Very irresponsible of you, you are the real danger to that child! Such a shame, screaming and shouting scaring everybody involved! Should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.
Well, hopefully the mother of the child will see this and make her feelings known .
I went through there on my driving test it’s a horrible junction you can’t see round the corner where the BMW comes from. Especially when the grass is tall and other drivers are speeding.
Road rage and anger issues are contagious, be careful what you sow because it will affect your entire life.
I have a friend who can be aggressive and was violent in his youth. [calmed down a bit now he is in his 70’s… but not much]
He once had his 4 kids in the back of his car in town and a cyclist came out of a side road causing him the slam the brakes on, no seat belts in them days so the kids on the back seat went flying forwards ending up in the foot well.
He hurled abuse at the cyclist to which the cyclist got off of his bike and became belligerent and aggressive and threatened him.
Get got out of his car and shoved the guy over a low brick wall into someone’s garden, then picked the bike up and threw it over the wall on top of him.
As he walked back to the car the kids were all wide eyed staring at him in shock.
They all drove home in silence and as soon as they got in the kids blurted out what happened to his wife so he got an ear bashing off of the misses.
The point being though, is that all of his oldest kids grew up to be aggressive and violent while the youngest were more easy going and calmer.
As he got older he mellowed so the younger his kids the less aggression they saw him from him.
[overall the entire family have not had a quite life, full of conflict and strife]
So becouse he lost 5 seconds, he lost another 2 minutes of his and 50 other cars time(not mentioning the danger he caused) to "explain" to the driver who is learning the importance of valuing other peoples time. I think he is the main pretendent to the Darwin award of 2024.
I hope someone who knows him sees this and shows him this. Maybe he was having a bad day but nothing justifies his behaviour.
That driver should have his licence taken away - he’s a danger to other drivers and himself (and his child).
I was about to say that this one of the main roads if you want to travel from North Wales to East Anglia across the middle of England so you often get impatient drivers who are going long distance wanting to get through ASAP, [high amounts of traffic going long distance on single lane roads with lots of sections of lower speed limits]
but to learn that he had a young child in the car means that he is probably local to the area and not traveling much distance.
Either way he has massive anger issues and needs help, [this is probably an issue with him out of the car as well]
Grown man incapable of controlling his emotions and taking it out on a young impressionable 17 year old. Absolutely not impressed, I imagine there’s other stuff going on in his life but not an excuse
Years ago , i was behind a car behind a bully who stopped in the middle of a dual carriageway in Motherwell to get out and remonstrate with the driver of the car in front of me. Wish i had had the nerve to drive past and give him a piece of my mind and tell him to get on his way.
I had something akin to the start if that incident yesterday. I (learner driver) was heading up an A road at about 60mph when someone pulled out about 150-200 yards ahead of me. Only my response was to brake and maintain distance as the car in front got up to speed. No horns, no harm. We all just got on with our day. "If you do that on your test, you'll fail" - though i had made some minor errors myself during the drive.
I would say it very much depends on distances and speed differential , also on following traffic . As a former advanced instructor I'd be concerned if a student didn't brake if the emerge was close enough to risk a collision , even if it did inconvenience people behind , but if there was no imminent risk of collision then I'd be happier with just lifting off the throttle until you saw whether the emerging vehicle was going to get up to speed .
We always taught - the first method of braking is by acceleration sense , the second method is by braking : in other words there should almost always be a period of deceleration before needing to use the brakes - only in an emergency should you need to come straight off the accelerator and onto the brakes , unless you are using both at once which only is taught in certain more advanced driving scenarios , and not for normal driving .
And the worst part is that the bmw driver thinks he done nothing wrong and he is the king of the roads.
1-year-old kid in the car stopping in the middle of the road like that..should be banned straightaway no questions asked ban
He might become an adult one day and realise what a total pillock he was in his youth.
Unlikely on this evidence...😒😒
Or he might not live long enough for that to happen .
I'm just dumbstruck.
These people GENUINELY need to be named and shamed. Acting like this on public roads, using their child as a defence while causing danger to other road users is the height if hypocrisy.
Thank you for sharing.
The thing is about learners is that they have road signs front and rear to warn you of their novice status. The other thing to remember is they are in some respects incompetent and trying to acquire the full range of skills to pass the driving test. So if you mess about with them they may suddenly do totally the wrong thing in a big way which could cause damage to your vehicle.
Yeah slamming on your breaks in front of a learner isn't a very smart idea (or anyone for that matter)
That man should be utterly ashamed of himself, people that allow themselves to be wound up so easily are always the most dangerous people on the road! I have seen so many people angered by things that didn't even inconvenience them but maybe just hurt their ego crash to try and get revenge
Sure it wasn't a great emerge but that's just part and parcel of learning - I'm sure the instructor and pupil would have talked about that emerge and whether the pupil could have done anything better, but that BMW driver decided to make a mountain out of a mole hill which could put off that learner driver fron learning to driver altogether
A selfish attitude over minor inconveniences. If his 1 year old child was in danger, it wouldn't have been because of the learner driver
If he did this in my home town... he woyld wake up wirh his car on bricks 😂😂😂😂
Wow, what an absolutely horrendous way to act. That poor learner driver and their instructor behaved and continued driving really well. I guess at least the learner driver now understands what some people are like when they get in their cars.
What a psycho. Ever since I started watching these videos I have tried to be a less aggressive driver. You never know what type of people are driving about unsupervised. Not worth it at all.
Wow, that really shows the magnitude of this guy's self-centred attitude and monumental lack of self awareness, reinforced not only stopping and getting out to berate the learner but also by his driving later in the video. He gets mildly inconvenienced and proceeds to majorly inconvenience himself, everyone behind and endangers everyone on two occasions. Entitled *#@%! Almost defies belief.
Seriously, whats the point !!! One day he might pick on someone who doesn’t give a f@%K and may never make back to his car .
Pretty typical "I have an expensive car, I own the road, GTFO of my way" mentality.
"Expensive car" he wishes
@@cuprashoe Yeah, most people think BMW = Luxury and Expense.
Only way they are expensive is when comparing their running costs to competitors. BMW take you for a ride!
I love the Ferrari GTFO
I remember I had a lesson at 9am on a weekday and was driving normally around a roundabout with my instructor saying it’s been going good today. Next minute the car behind comes around the outside of the me on the roundabout and overtakes me on the exit. Then proceeds to stop the car, get out and walk up to my window screaming that I was speeding and I cut off him mum who was following behind him. It all happened so quick that you don’t really have time to even process it. Luckily I used it as a lesson to help me relax when driving from then onwards as I thought there’s no way it can get worse than that at any point!
Know the the roundabout well. Leadenham to Sleaford. That Leg onto the roundabout is not traffic light controlled for some reason but all others are. Never an unmarked car around when you need one. That guy could of caused a pileup slamming the anchors on like that on that stretch of road. I think he was a bit fast as well coming up to the Leadenham juction (not a slip road BTW a Tee Junction). I've had several occasions where I have had HGV's tailgate my van on that stretch even when I'm turning right near Cranwell. I had to put the indicator on early and then the brakes lightly and they still didn't get the hint and stayed on the rear bumper.
If you ever turn up for work and think your job is pointless, spare a thought for the people who install indicators on Audi’s and BMW’s.
And yes, that may be stereotyping, but when all you see are BMW and Audi drivers on the road acting like entitled idiots, I’m afraid those stereotypes stick.
That driver is more than welcome to give me a time and location 👌🏻
Funny day today. 3 people pulled out in front of me today. One of those needed an emergency stop! I just dealt with it and got on with my day. Yep! I have calmed down a lot, and, Largely down to Ashley's video's. Great driving lesson's and life lesson's too. But, Should said BMW driver had walked up on me in such a way, an erm! 'assertive' discussion would ensue! In fact, I'd have had 'that discussion' once he walked up on the learner driver. I actually do like bullies! It's called 'play time'
I still make mistakes when driving, we all do. But, when you see a a learner, leaning to drive, then you must accept that they will make mistakes. The very worst mistake a driver could ever make is this. My partner is learning to drive. She's not very good at it truth be told. She is learning. Doing well too. But, should anyone ever dare walk up on her in this way, I will ruin your day. That, I promise you! Be very careful who you piss off!!!
Well said!! 😊👍 With a name like mad mick, I wouldn't like to cross you 😂😂 But good on your partner for keeping taking her lessons - I only passed 1st time 3 years ago when I was 57 - so it's never too late, I just found all these youtube channels like Ashley's etc immensely helpful and I still watch them even now as a full license holder. You sound exactly like my hubby, as he would "lose the rag" with someone if he found out they were bullying a learner 😂
Good luck to your other half when her test comes up 😊👍
@@DriveSmartDash thank you. I was a trained driver in the army. I find Ashley's vids a way to retrain myself to drive better has a civilian.
P.S. I'm only mad sometimes:)
@@madmick9205 😄👍
I drive around here all the time and i can confirm the driving attitudes of the people around here is crazy !
I agree. This road is a funny one, national speed limit and yet nearly everyone decides to dawdle along at 50 (drives me and my wife crazy to the point we try to avoid this road). Can see why some people might get frustrated, myself included. But there's no way I'd ever react like the BMW did or get impatient enough to overtake dangerously.
How sad. The fact it annoyed him that much after following the learner for 2 minutes of driving.
Thank you for the upload! This happened in Italy? Terrible thing to of happened! People learn from this mistake: do not overtake at a junction & do not speed especially in urban areas.
You do not need to eb a professional to participate in challenges like any open race e.g. London Marathon etc but you do need to train for these things & be prepared!
Peace & Love!!!
I fear for the 1yo life with a father like that.
He had to slam his brakes on because the learner pulled out, did he boll**ks.
Think he was driving so close to that car because that's as far down the road he ever looks.